Keven Schlotterbeck

[saintwbu]

1 hour ago, Badger said:

Christ, some memories- perhaps it’s mine - are fading or playing tricks on us. The two you mentioned are chalk and cheese.

VVD was a Rolls Royce of a player. That was evident from his first game, great defender who glided around the pitch with ease. Bella-K and Salisu were like cart horses, and even then best sent to the glue factory.

Shame about ABK, obviously had potential. You don’t get in the Germany WC squad at 22 without having something about you. But equally Germany with the likes of ABK in their squad don’t get past the group stages. 

I think so - ABK and Salisu not even remotely similar, Salisu couldn’t control his feet but was a decent last ditch defender. ABK could glide past players, carry the ball up the pitch, and seemed a level above when he was on it. But it only lasted about 3 games unfortunately, which probably explains why he ended up with us. 

[LiberalCommunist]

Christ, they hype train is on full throttle! I hope the lad doesn't read this and just keeps his head down. Very impressed so far, but its been three weeks! And besides,  who ever keeps Jack out of the match day squad gets a +2 Bonus, so his ratings are a little warped! 

[LegalEagle]

Based on what we’ve seen so far he’s a distance better than THB and the best centre back we’ve had since VVD.

[Stud mark of doom]

21 minutes ago, LegalEagle said:

Based on what we’ve seen so far he’s a distance better than THB and the best centre back we’ve had since VVD.

I was thinking that - obviously a league down but can’t recall any of our centre backs dominating to anything like the same extent since VVD, who was exceptional. 
 

 

[AlexLaw76]

10 hours ago, LegalEagle said:

Based on what we’ve seen so far he’s a distance better than THB and the best centre back we’ve had since VVD.

my god. Calm down

[CB Fry]

25 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

my god. Calm down

These are the same people who go mad about players being "written off" after 3 games.

Yeah, let's give him 3 games and start comparing him to one of the best CBs in world football of the last 2 decades.

Funny how three games is plenty of evidence to make that kind of assessment.

 

[MarkSFC]

The lad is decent, no question, and looks excellent for Us NOW, IN THIS LEAGUE. Whether that translates into PL standard we will only know if and when we go up. So far, 30m minus him for THB is looking ok....plus Abbot is yet to come in and I have a sneaky feeling we will be thinking he is better. 

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said:

my god. Calm down

Why? I think he's probably the best centre back we've ever had and the best to ever play in the championship. 

[Bobsmith]

I agree we don't know how good he will be in the prem, but he was captain of a mid table bundesliga club so there is no reason why he wouldn't be a solid performer at prem level 

[LegalEagle]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

These are the same people who go mad about players being "written off" after 3 games.

Yeah, let's give him 3 games and start comparing him to one of the best CBs in world football of the last 2 decades.

Funny how three games is plenty of evidence to make that kind of assessment.

 

Read carefully Fry and slow down. Firstly, I caveated my comment by saying “Based on what we’ve seen so far” i.e. a snapshot. Secondly, I said “since VVD”. I did not compare him to VVD. 

[saintwbu]

2 hours ago, CB Fry said:

These are the same people who go mad about players being "written off" after 3 games.

Yeah, let's give him 3 games and start comparing him to one of the best CBs in world football of the last 2 decades.

Funny how three games is plenty of evidence to make that kind of assessment.

 

I didn’t see a comparison - it said best we’ve had since VVD. Given that most CB’s we’ve had since him have been absolutely shite, it doesn’t seem that far fetched, even if a little early to judge.

[Lighthouse]

TBF I’d never even heard of Kev two months ago but I knew he was better than Wes Hoedt.

[Danbert]

Definitely better than Stephens and Bednarek. His distribution is poor though.

[CB Fry]

44 minutes ago, LegalEagle said:

Read carefully Fry and slow down. Firstly, I caveated my comment by saying “Based on what we’ve seen so far” i.e. a snapshot. Secondly, I said “since VVD”. I did not compare him to VVD. 

 

30 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

I didn’t see a comparison - it said best we’ve had since VVD. Given that most CB’s we’ve had since him have been absolutely shite, it doesn’t seem that far fetched, even if a little early to judge.

The rhetorical flourish you used is called "mentioned in the same sentence as..." which is basically comparing to that someone: because why else are you mentioning the other name?

My point is it is a stupid comparison.

 

If he keeps going like this Schlotterbeck could be the German making the most impact on Southampton since Hitler.

[saintwbu]

28 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

 

The rhetorical flourish you used is called "mentioned in the same sentence as..." which is basically comparing to that someone: because why else are you mentioning the other name?

My point is it is a stupid comparison.

 

If he keeps going like this Schlotterbeck could be the German making the most impact on Southampton since Hitler.

Good thing it wasn’t a comparison then…

[benjii]

A succulent rhetorical flourish!!!

[Miltonaggro]

3 hours ago, Turkish said:

Why? I think he's probably the best centre back we've ever had and the best to ever play in the championship. 

You clearly never saw Kenny Armstrong.

[Miltonaggro]

2 hours ago, CB Fry said:

 

The rhetorical flourish you used is called "mentioned in the same sentence as..." which is basically comparing to that someone: because why else are you mentioning the other name?

My point is it is a stupid comparison.

 

If he keeps going like this Schlotterbeck could be the German making the most impact on Southampton since Hitler.

A peach. Cheered up a dull afternoon with an observed guffaw. Namaste Mr Fry! 

[CampionSaint]

It's amazing to think his brother Nico is apparently a lot better than Keven !

Edited September 11 by CampionSaint

[Miltonaggro]

1 minute ago, CampionSaint said:

It's amazing to think his brother Nico is apparently a lot better then Keven !

He joins when we go up, giving us the Hampshire equivelent of the Siegfried Line.

[revolution saint]

8 minutes ago, CampionSaint said:

It's amazing to think his brother Nico is apparently a lot better then Keven !

I've resigned myself to losing Keven to Real Madrid but Nico would be a good shout to replace him.

[Whitey Grandad]

19 hours ago, Miltonaggro said:

He joins when we go up, giving us the Hampshire equivelent of the Siegfried Line.

That was easily bypassed. 

[Juneau]

I was listening to some Nirvana and couldn’t get the chorus of Lithium out of my head for a Keven chant…

 

I like it, Keven Schlotterbeck
You won’t pass, Keven Schlotterbeck
I love you, Keven Schlotterbeck
He’ll kill you, Keven Schlotterbeck

Yeah-yeah
Yeah-yeah
Yeah-yeah
Yeah-yeah
Yeah-yeah
Yeah-yeah, yeah

 

https://youtu.be/pkcJEvMcnEg?t=103&is=dtByhGG_iIEUOFZG

 

 

[Turkish]

An upgrade on THB for a fraction of the price?

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

Have to admit. Spors did well to get him. The fact that he's slotted in seamlessly and people have not moaned means he's been a great find.

We have a 'mentality monster!' he could have wilted after conceding the own goal but didn't. 

NB. 

Please replace mentality monster with adjectives of your own choice. 

[LGTL]

What a signing he’s been. 

[hypochondriac]

29 minutes ago, LGTL said:

What a signing he’s been. 

Hi and jwp have to be up there as signings of the season for the entire league. Losing THB it was so important that we got a good CB signing in and he's proven himself more than good enough. Just imagine if we'd got that wrong and ended up with wood and Stephens at the back.

[Turkish]

39 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Hi and jwp have to be up there as signings of the season for the entire league. Losing THB it was so important that we got a good CB signing in and he's proven himself more than good enough. Just imagine if we'd got that wrong and ended up with wood and Stephens at the back.

He also was reported as not being the replacement for THB so must have been in for someone else too

 

 

[CB Fry]

It feels like they were trying to get that Norwegian whose name I have now forgotten. Did the right thing by not just panic buying anyone.

[hypochondriac]

11 minutes ago, Turkish said:

He also was reported as not being the replacement for THB so must have been in for someone else too

 

 

Undoubtedly yes. Makes it even more important that we got his signing right given the alternatives (although maybe Abbott is reasonable at cb we may not find out.)

[Turkish]

16 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

It feels like they were trying to get that Norwegian whose name I have now forgotten. Did the right thing by not just panic buying anyone.

Vegard Forren

[CB Fry]

Just now, Turkish said:

Vegard Forren

Oh what might have been 💔

[Midfield_General]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

An upgrade on THB for a fraction of the price?

Yep. THB was good, but Schlotterbeck wins more in the air and the defence is better with him in it. Fantastic bit of business. 

And he’s not only better himself, but he’s made Stephens better too. Reminds me of how playing next to Fonte made Lovren better. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Midfield_General

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Midfield_General said:

Yep. THB was good, but Schlotterbeck wins more in the air and the defence is better with him in it. 

And he’s not only better himself, but he’s made Stephens better too. Reminds me of how playing next to Fonte made Lovren better. 

I'm not sure he's a better individual player than THB but I think the defensive unit is stronger. If only because it allows Stephens to play on his preferred side.

[Willo of Whiteley]

36 minutes ago, Turkish said:

He also was reported as not being the replacement for THB so must have been in for someone else too

 

 

Falchener maybe?

Who knows 🤷🏻‍♂️

[Turkish]

12 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Oh what might have been 💔

Good old Nick Nack made this one happen 

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/vegard-forren-reveals-reasons-liverpool-18588996

 

[Midfield_General]

I just love the spine we’ve got now when everyone’s fit. 

Peretz > Schlotterbeck > Downes > Larin through the centre of the team is so strong for championship level. 

Then add other battlers like Bree, Stephens, JWP, Jander, Matsuki and we’re a physical match for anyone in this division. Azaz surprised me with how much he got stuck in up top on his own against the skates as well.

We’re not a team of son-in-laws (tm) getting bullied anymore. 

Edited 12 hours ago by Midfield_General

[SouthWalesSaints]

Re the THB versus KS argument.  
 

Both very good players, both with different attributes.  KS is better from open play defensively, but set pieces for and against THB is a better option.  THB is better on the ball, although I’d argue the gap is getting smaller the more games go on. 
 

I do think that they’d be a brilliant pair, but we’ve got a great deal getting 25 million and KS it also helps that both Stephens and Wood are right footed so it takes them up a small notch.  
 

Hope we get promoted and re sign THB. I thought he was a great player and a great character.  

[Turkish]

25 minutes ago, SouthWalesSaints said:

Re the THB versus KS argument.  
 

Both very good players, both with different attributes.  KS is better from open play defensively, but set pieces for and against THB is a better option.  THB is better on the ball, although I’d argue the gap is getting smaller the more games go on. 
 

I do think that they’d be a brilliant pair, but we’ve got a great deal getting 25 million and KS it also helps that both Stephens and Wood are right footed so it takes them up a small notch.  
 

Hope we get promoted and re sign THB. I thought he was a great player and a great character.  

Yep I’d love to have seen them together would have been a brilliant pairing. 

[Badger]

Wouldn’t be surprised to see a CB bid relaunched in January. We tried for both Falchener and Affengrubber before bringing in Abbot, and you wonder if he has Tonda’s confidence. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

Depends which THB version we are talking about. The one post Jan window was exceptional, a bit better than this German. The one pre that was very poor. This guys been a solid 7 or 8 most weeks, THB had some stinkers.