Should he stay or should he go?

[sidthesquid]

As we seem as good as down, I thought it was time to see who you'd like to still be here come August & who you'd like to see gone

My own view is

Mark Fry - nice chap I'm sure, but hopefully long gone

Anyone who ever had anything to do with the running of this club - go

Wotte - I quite like him, but he has to go

As do all his backroom lads

 

Davis - can't afford him, anyway, so - go

James - stay, definitely

Skacel - long been part of the problem - go

Perry - staying anyway, but might just do a job in League One

Saeijs - going anyway, presumably

Surman - if we can raise any money on him - sadly go

Gillett - stay, definitely

Schneiderlin - totally indifferent, but go, just

Wotton - I'll drive you to the station

Smith - stay, just (There is something there & we haven't seen enough yet)

Lallana - give him another season

Holmes - stay, but I'm starting to worry about his injury record

McGoldrick - I hope we can keep him - 20 goals from midfield next season

Euell - definitely well past his sell by date - go, go, go

Saganowski - likewise

BWP - perhaps we could offer him as a prize in a raffle - that's the only way we could get any money for him. Otherwise Macclesfield awaits him

Thomas - League One is probably a level where he'd do okay, but at £10k a week....?

Dyer - cash in while we can

John - gone

Rasiak - only one more year of his ludicrous salary to get someone else to pay (I hope)

Gasmi & Liptak will go anyway, presumably....

All the other youngsters - stay

[saintwarwick]

As we seem as good as down, I thought it was time to see who you'd like to still be here come August & who you'd like to see gone

My own view is

Mark Fry - nice chap I'm sure, but hopefully long gone

Anyone who ever had anything to do with the running of this club - go

Wotte - I quite like him, but he has to go

As do all his backroom lads

 

Davis - can't afford him, anyway, so - go

James - stay, definitely

Skacel - long been part of the problem - go

Perry - staying anyway, but might just do a job in League One

Saeijs - going anyway, presumably

Surman - if we can raise any money on him - sadly go

Gillett - stay, definitely

Schneiderlin - totally indifferent, but go, just

Wotton - I'll drive you to the station

Smith - stay, just (There is something there & we haven't seen enough yet)

Lallana - give him another season

Holmes - stay, but I'm starting to worry about his injury record

McGoldrick - I hope we can keep him - 20 goals from midfield next season

Euell - definitely well past his sell by date - go, go, go

Saganowski - likewise

BWP - perhaps we could offer him as a prize in a raffle - that's the only way we could get any money for him. Otherwise Macclesfield awaits him

Thomas - League One is probably a level where he'd do okay, but at £10k a week....?

Dyer - cash in while we can

John - gone

Rasiak - only one more year of his ludicrous salary to get someone else to pay (I hope)

Gasmi & Liptak will go anyway, presumably....

All the other youngsters - stay

 

Don't know why you have the administrator in that lot as he has nothing to do with the club.

[Glasgow_Saint]

get rid of all except Davis, Gillett and Saeijs

[sadoldgit]

It makes you wonder who will be left next year.....

[ALWAYS_SFC]

As we seem as good as down, I thought it was time to see who you'd like to still be here come August & who you'd like to see gone

My own view is

Mark Fry - nice chap I'm sure, but hopefully long gone

Anyone who ever had anything to do with the running of this club - go

Wotte - I quite like him, but he has to go

As do all his backroom lads

 

Davis - can't afford him, anyway, so - go

James - stay, definitely

Skacel - long been part of the problem - go

Perry - staying anyway, but might just do a job in League One

Saeijs - going anyway, presumably

Surman - if we can raise any money on him - sadly go

Gillett - stay, definitely

Schneiderlin - totally indifferent, but go, just

Wotton - I'll drive you to the station

Smith - stay, just (There is something there & we haven't seen enough yet)

Lallana - give him another season

Holmes - stay, but I'm starting to worry about his injury record

McGoldrick - I hope we can keep him - 20 goals from midfield next season

Euell - definitely well past his sell by date - go, go, go

Saganowski - likewise

BWP - perhaps we could offer him as a prize in a raffle - that's the only way we could get any money for him. Otherwise Macclesfield awaits him

Thomas - League One is probably a level where he'd do okay, but at £10k a week....?

Dyer - cash in while we can

John - gone

Rasiak - only one more year of his ludicrous salary to get someone else to pay (I hope)

Gasmi & Liptak will go anyway, presumably....

All the other youngsters - stay

 

I scan read your post to start and realised it to be tripe as soon as i read

that you think Smith has more to offer than BWP,Mcg will score 20,and to suggest Saga is past his sell by date.....you are clueless pal

[badgerx16]

get rid of all except Davis, Gillett and Saeijs

Saejis goes if we go down, his contract is only extended if we are in the CCC..

[LGTL]

I'd keep Davis, James, Perry, Gillet, McGoldrick and Saga. Unfortunately, League 1 will see us keep the middle 4 only.

[Micky]

Will we not be playing the under 14's in L1, now that total football in the CCC has been proven to work wonders....!!!

[Bourno]

I am slightly worried about the number of players that will be left at the club for next season. We thought that the team that started this season was young, I reckon our starting 11 for next season may be even younger.

[docker-p]

The only ones i want to see at the club next season are Gillet and Davies. Davies will go anyway,so that just leaves Gillet.

 

I hope Crouch is involved somewhere in running SFC.

 

I hope to god that waster McGolddrought f's off.

[Iowsaintsfan]

I'd keep Davis, James, Perry, Gillet, McGoldrick and Saga. Unfortunately, League 1 will see us keep the middle 4 only.

 

 

Id add Holmes to that, i think hes worth keeping. possibly Surman if its possible as he is a Saint but trying too hard atm then maybe get an old Saint back for next season like Oakley who can still do a job in League 1

[St Marco]

If someone comes in with cash i think keeping either John or Rasiak would be wise. They are physical players who given chances will score goals. Look at Leicester. They have scored for fun this year and that is because they have a physical team with the right balance of young and old. Fryatt and Howard compliment each other we'll. If we can get one of them to hold the ball up they could help to create a lot of goals.

But if we get someone who is **** poor then we need them off the books asap.

[these things take time]

Next season, presuming we are relegated, Jason Euell, Rudi Skacel, BWP, Wayne Thomas, Rasiak, and Stern John will need to be offloaded due to their wages in relation to the performances they put in. This is regardless of whether we have rich new owners or poor ones lol.

 

Liptak and Gasmi will also be on their way. Please god Wotton too.

 

Would be lovely to keep Kelvin Davis, JPS, Saga, but this is dependent on us having rich owners and if they would like to play for us next season.

 

Andrew Surman, Adam Lallana, David McGoldrick, Nathen Dyer are our most saleable assets. However I think we should try to keep all of them. If we need the money however I can see them being sold to CCC/ prem teams battling relegation.

 

Goalkeepers - If Kelvin does leave then we should keep hold of both Bialkowski and Forecast provided they're not on huge wages.

 

Defence - Chris Perry, Jamie Hatch, Olly Lancashire, Jamie Hatch, Joseph Mills, Lee Molyneux should be retained

 

Midfield - ideally Surman, Lee Holmes, Lloyd James, Lallana, Schneiderlin, Gillett, Jake Thomson, Oscar Gobern and Ryan Smith should be kept on.

 

Forwards - McGoldrick, White, Paterson, McLaggon, Saga if we can!

 

Even if we manage to keep hold of so many players we will need to utilise the loan market well, and sign experienced, hungry players to guide the nippers.

[georgeismyname]

1. Kelvin Davis - definitely keep on performances but would he want to play in League One when his performances this season would have attracted other teams? and would we be able to afford him? would he take a paycut?

2. Chris Perry - staying anyway, probably be even better at League One level

3. Wayne Thomas - keep but with a paycut. could be good in L1 if he steers clear of injury.

4. Marek Saganowski - keep but with a huge paycut. if not get rid of him as he is very inconsistent and not worth paying megabucks for. he would probably want to leave anyway.

5. Jan-Paul Saeijs - would love to keep him but he only has a contract for next season if we stay up so i doubt he will stay. shame because he would be fantastic at that level

6. Michael Svensson - keep as coach; too injury prone

7. Rudi Skacel - get rid as he has hardly set the world on fire and is one of our bigger earners. also he will obviously want to leave as he has done for the last season or two.

8. Bradley Wright-Phillips - keep as he might get a few goals in the lower leagues but with a paycut.

9. Grzegorz Rasiak - get rid as he is way too expensive

10. Paul Wotton - keep but only if he is very cheap. has experience of the lower leagues

11. Andrew Surman - get rid if we can get decent money for him. wouldn't mind keeping him though but doubt we will be able to

12. Lee Holmes - keep but injury record is worrying

13. Tommy Forecast - get rid, dunno why we bought him in the first place

14. Stern John - get rid as we can't afford his wages

15. Jason Euell - get rid as he is shocking and expensive

16. Romain Gasmi - only on loan thank god so won't be staying

17. David McGoldrick - definitely stay, he could score a hatful in L1 (if we can keep hold of him)

18. Nathan Dyer - keep if we can, could really scare L1 defences

19. Morgan Schneiderlin - not bothered one way or the other, only plays well when the team is playing well - a fair-weather player

20. Adam Lallana - sell if we can, hasn't impressed me too much this season but we have seen a few glimpses of what he can do

21. Jamie Hatch - keep as a back-up, can't really comment as I haven't seen him play much

22. Simon Gillett - definitely keep, he could be one of our main players next year. that's if we can keep hold of him

23. Lloyd James - same as Gillett

24. Oliver Lancashire - not bothered one way or the other, haven't been too impressed with what I have seen of him so far

25. Michael Poke - get rid

26. Jake Thomson - definitely keep as he could really scare L1 defences

27. Kyle Davies - never seen him so get rid

28. Bartosz Bialkowski - keep as back-up to Kelvin if we can keep him or if Kelvin goes, have Bart as no 1 with Forecast as backup

29. Jeffrey Immudia - never seen him so get rid

33. Joseph Mills - give him a chance as 1st choice LB

34. Jamie White - not bothered but probably keep as backup

35. Matthew Paterson - give him a decent chance in the team

37. Oscar Gobern - keep and give a chance in the side

40. Anthony Pulis - definitely get rid - too injury prone

41. Zoltan Liptak - going anyway

42. Kayne McLaggon - keep and give a chance in the team

43. Lee Molyneux - keep as backup to Joe Mills

[L1Minus10]

-----------Bialkowski

James----Lancashire----Perry----Mills

McLaggon---Gillett----Wotton----Smith

------------Paterson---White

 

This is next years team as it stands.

[saintwarwick]

The only ones i want to see at the club next season are Gillet and Davies. Davies will go anyway,so that just leaves Gillet.

 

I hope Crouch is involved somewhere in running SFC.

 

I hope to god that waster McGolddrought f's off.

 

Can't see us winning many matches next season with just Gillet in the side

[JustMike]

As we seem as good as down, I thought it was time to see who you'd like to still be here come August & who you'd like to see gone

My own view is

Mark Fry - nice chap I'm sure, but hopefully long gone

Anyone who ever had anything to do with the running of this club - go

Wotte - I quite like him, but he has to go

As do all his backroom lads

 

Davis - can't afford him, anyway, so - go

James - stay, definitely

Skacel - long been part of the problem - go

Perry - staying anyway, but might just do a job in League One

Saeijs - going anyway, presumably

Surman - if we can raise any money on him - sadly go

Gillett - stay, definitely

Schneiderlin - totally indifferent, but go, just

Wotton - I'll drive you to the station

Smith - stay, just (There is something there & we haven't seen enough yet)

Lallana - give him another season

Holmes - stay, but I'm starting to worry about his injury record

McGoldrick - I hope we can keep him - 20 goals from midfield next season

Euell - definitely well past his sell by date - go, go, go

Saganowski - likewise

BWP - perhaps we could offer him as a prize in a raffle - that's the only way we could get any money for him. Otherwise Macclesfield awaits him

Thomas - League One is probably a level where he'd do okay, but at £10k a week....?

Dyer - cash in while we can

John - gone

Rasiak - only one more year of his ludicrous salary to get someone else to pay (I hope)

Gasmi & Liptak will go anyway, presumably....

All the other youngsters - stay

 

you asked who we would LIKE to still be here..and yet you say Davis to go!! :confused:

 

I hope we bend over backwards to keep him here

[70's Mike]

not sure how much control we will have over who goes and who might come in

[sidthesquid]

Don't know why you have the administrator in that lot as he has nothing to do with the club.

 

In the hope that we will no longer be in administration

[sidthesquid]

-----------Bialkowski

James----Lancashire----Perry----Mills

McLaggon---Gillett----Wotton----Smith

------------Paterson---White

 

This is next years team as it stands.

 

Bialkowski will go - a Burley signing so probably on big wages + he's out on loan already

[Dicko]

I scan read your post to start and realised it to be tripe as soon as i read

that you think Smith has more to offer than BWP,Mcg will score 20,and to suggest Saga is past his sell by date.....you are clueless pal

 

Agreed

 

I can't relate to any fan who thinks Smith is worth keeping over BWP

I'd love us to keep BWP, he's a confidence player & knows where the goal is - he'd score over 20 goals in League 1

 

Also, Surman (sadly - go), not sadly IMO

Lallana mentally has already left, he's been terrible since November

 

DMG, Gillett and James would all be great players in League 1

[sidthesquid]

I scan read your post to start and realised it to be tripe as soon as i read

that you think Smith has more to offer than BWP,Mcg will score 20,and to suggest Saga is past his sell by date.....you are clueless pal

 

Perhaps you should read it all before you slag me off

re Smith I said - stay, just (There is something there & we haven't seen enough yet)

And yes, I do think he has more to offer than BWP - he has had 3 years to establish himself here and yet he is still only on the bench and has the odd good half game. No progress and one of our highest earners = time to go. Smith may never make it, but he deserves another season to see, that is all. McG will get twenty goals - I'd even put a bet on it. As for Saga - 10 games since his last goal & doesn't look like he'll ever score again for us. If you really think Saga and BWP are the answer after the last two seasons you are way beyond clueless, pal

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Perhaps you should read it all before you slag me off

re Smith I said - stay, just (There is something there & we haven't seen enough yet)

And yes, I do think he has more to offer than BWP - he has had 3 years to establish himself here and yet he is still only on the bench and has the odd good half game. No progress and one of our highest earners = time to go. Smith may never make it, but he deserves another season to see, that is all. McG will get twenty goals - I'd even put a bet on it. As for Saga - 10 games since his last goal & doesn't look like he'll ever score again for us. If you really think Saga and BWP are the answer after the last two seasons you are way beyond clueless, pal

 

Oh dear! Off you go and have a bet then,as the saying goes "a fool and his money are soon parted"

 

Smith is woeful,so one footed it`s a joke,remember he was a Millwall reserve

although they are probably better than us right now. He does these pointless step overs, pointless because the defender knows which way he is going because he only has the one leg..

 

The service to the front to is pathetic in the extreme so Saganowski has had

very limited chances in any case,but is miles and miles better than anything else we have.

[sidthesquid]

Oh dear! Off you go and have a bet then,as the saying goes "a fool and his money are soon parted"

 

Smith is woeful,so one footed it`s a joke,remember he was a Millwall reserve

although they are probably better than us right now. He does these pointless step overs, pointless because the defender knows which way he is going because he only has the one leg..

 

The service to the front to is pathetic in the extreme so Saganowski has had

very limited chances in any case,but is miles and miles better than anything else we have.

 

I'll have bet with you, if you like. I never said Smith is a great player, just that he is worth another look. I'm not that bothered if he stays or goes, but he is cheap & might prove worth having. Saga is simply living off past glories, I'm afraid

[qwertySFC]

As we seem as good as down, I thought it was time to see who you'd like to still be here come August & who you'd like to see gone

My own view is

Mark Fry - nice chap I'm sure, but hopefully long gone

Anyone who ever had anything to do with the running of this club - go

Wotte - I quite like him, but he has to go

As do all his backroom lads

 

Davis - can't afford him, anyway, so - go

James - stay, definitely

Skacel - long been part of the problem - go

Perry - staying anyway, but might just do a job in League One

Saeijs - going anyway, presumably

Surman - if we can raise any money on him - sadly go

Gillett - stay, definitely

Schneiderlin - totally indifferent, but go, just

Wotton - I'll drive you to the station

Smith - stay, just (There is something there & we haven't seen enough yet)

Lallana - give him another season

Holmes - stay, but I'm starting to worry about his injury record

McGoldrick - I hope we can keep him - 20 goals from midfield next season

Euell - definitely well past his sell by date - go, go, go

Saganowski - likewise

BWP - perhaps we could offer him as a prize in a raffle - that's the only way we could get any money for him. Otherwise Macclesfield awaits him

Thomas - League One is probably a level where he'd do okay, but at £10k a week....?

Dyer - cash in while we can

John - gone

Rasiak - only one more year of his ludicrous salary to get someone else to pay (I hope)

Gasmi & Liptak will go anyway, presumably....

All the other youngsters - stay

 

get rid of them all and lets rebuild our team around ANTHONY PULIS

[ALWAYS_SFC]

I'll have bet with you, if you like. I never said Smith is a great player, just that he is worth another look. I'm not that bothered if he stays or goes, but he is cheap & might prove worth having. Saga is simply living off past glories, I'm afraid

 

Bet via a forum can lol,unless we PM the winnings:rolleyes:

 

Saga "living off past glories"...what an insult to one of the hardest working players in the squad...

[ALWAYS_SFC]

get rid of them all and lets rebuild our team around ANTHONY PULIS

 

You may jest...

[eelpie]

It makes you wonder who will be left next year.....

 

My thoughts.

If sidthesquid had been in charge we wouldn't be in administration, and only one place lower.

[John B]

As we seem as good as down, I thought it was time to see who you'd like to still be here come August & who you'd like to see gone

My own view is

Mark Fry - nice chap I'm sure, but hopefully long gone

Anyone who ever had anything to do with the running of this club - go

Wotte - I quite like him, but he has to go

As do all his backroom lads

 

Davis - can't afford him, anyway, so - go

James - stay, definitely

Skacel - long been part of the problem - go

Perry - staying anyway, but might just do a job in League One

Saeijs - going anyway, presumably

Surman - if we can raise any money on him - sadly go

Gillett - stay, definitely

Schneiderlin - totally indifferent, but go, just

Wotton - I'll drive you to the station

Smith - stay, just (There is something there & we haven't seen enough yet)

Lallana - give him another season

Holmes - stay, but I'm starting to worry about his injury record

McGoldrick - I hope we can keep him - 20 goals from midfield next season

Euell - definitely well past his sell by date - go, go, go

Saganowski - likewise

BWP - perhaps we could offer him as a prize in a raffle - that's the only way we could get any money for him. Otherwise Macclesfield awaits him

Thomas - League One is probably a level where he'd do okay, but at £10k a week....?

Dyer - cash in while we can

John - gone

Rasiak - only one more year of his ludicrous salary to get someone else to pay (I hope)

Gasmi & Liptak will go anyway, presumably....

All the other youngsters - stay

 

Yes I agree good post well thought out

[VectisSaint]

The only ones we should try to keep are Davis, James, Perry, Saeijs and Gillett. We are best off without all of the others. Sadly not much hope of Saeijs or Davis staying.

[sidthesquid]

Bet via a forum can lol,unless we PM the winnings:rolleyes:

 

Saga "living off past glories"...what an insult to one of the hardest working players in the squad...

 

Hard working, maybe, but ineffective & one of the highest earners. We could do so much better with our money.

[sidthesquid]

get rid of them all and lets rebuild our team around ANTHONY PULIS

 

Probably says it all, but I forgot about him....

[SFC Forever]

Davis I would love to see next season but doubt he will stay.

James - Keep

Perry - Keep, just. Will get bullied by larger players but could last a few months and could be useful cover

Gillett - Keep if he will stay

[Arizona]

I would want to keep KD, Perry, Size, James, Skacel, Bart, Saganowski, Rasiak, Surman, Lallana, Gillett, Thomas, Paterson and Mills from the current first team squad. The emphasis is on want, as I can see Rasiak, Saga and Skacel all leaving. Surman and Lallana may be awful at the moment, but are far too young to write off just yet.

 

 

Goodbye to:

BWP - I'd have him in the team now, but let's be honnest. He's overpaid and sh*te.

John - Out of contract, well past it.

Euell - As above.

Molyneux - Crap

Gasmi - Do I really have to explain

Pulis - As above

Wotton - Useless old clogger

 

Indifferent

DMG - I guess he might score more in League 1, but as been pretty poor in CCC.

Morgan - He is young, but f**kin' 'ell he's terrible. If he hadn't cost £1.2m, he'd be out the door with Gasmi and Pulis.

Smith - Maybe another 1 year contract to see if he can gain some consistency.

Holmes - Really haven't seen much to warrant keeping him due to injury, but I'd give him a chance.

Forecast - Really don't see the point in him.

Lipstick - meh

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Hard working, maybe, but ineffective & one of the highest earners. We could do so much better with our money.

 

 

 

Better with our money...LMAO

 

Pulis

Gasmi

Robertson

Peckhart

Schniderlien

Molyneux

Smith

 

Yeah right.....

 

Give Saganowski some service and he will score goals.

[Saint_Jonny]

There will be a couple of obvious players that will leave because of there percieved quality / wages etc (surman, lallana, davis etc)

 

But if we keep the core of the youngsters and the likes of BWP, DMG, Gillet and Euell, I can see us (maybe..) doing a Leicester and having a ****ing good season next year, one we might even enjoy.

[SuperMikey]

Keep

Bialkowski

Forecast

Perry

Thomas

James

Mills

Lancashire

Imudia (more to come from him)

Holmes

Gillett

Thomson

Gobern

Smith

BWP

DMG

McLaggon

Paterson

 

Get Rid

Davis (with a heavy heart, he'll want to play at a higher level)

Davies

Molyneux

Skacel

Wotton

Surman

Euell

Schneiderlin

Pulis

Saganowski

Lallana

White

Rasiak

John

 

From the Keep section I would imagine we'd line up a bit like:

 

---------Bialkowski---------

James--Perry--Thomas--Mills

-------Gillett--Gobern-------

Thomson-------------Holmes

--------BWP--DMG----------

 

Subs: Forecast, Imudia, Lancashire, Smith, Paterson

 

And that is a very average L1 team, if that at all.

[Arizona]

Two things Mikey.

 

1. What's Davies done to deserve being released so soon?

 

2. Don't you think that forward pairing will be absolutely hopeless when it comes to physical battles, work rate, aerial ability and ultimately, scoring?

[SuperMikey]

Two things Mikey.

 

1. What's Davies done to deserve being released so soon?

 

2. Don't you think that forward pairing will be absolutely hopeless when it comes to physical battles, work rate, aerial ability and ultimately, scoring?

 

Davis has done absolutely nothing wrong, he's been my player of the season definately. Only thing is, would he really play for us in League 1? I doubt it. Considering his impressive form this season then there will be plenty of clubs at CCC level (or perhaps higher?) wanting his signature. Unless he wants to play at a low level for virtually nothing (which is what we could afford to pay) then I don't think we'll be able to keep him, so to get rid of him at the earliest possible opportunity and for the most money would be the better (and most probable) scenario.

 

And as for the strike partnership, yes. I think if we do keep those two then we would need to also get in a big bruiser of a striker, like Steve Howard for Derby, who would win aerial challenges and bully defenders. A bit like Shefki Kuqi does for Palace, or Tresor Kandol for Charlton (although he's been slightly less successful..).

 

That team will get absolutely torn apart in L1 though. Well, that is assuming we even exist next season.

[docker-p]

I can't believe how many people think DMG is worth keeping. He is 5Hite and would be whatever league he plays in. Anybody who comes along and wants to take him off our wage bill we should bight their hand off. Not that anyone would. Most managers know you can't polish a turd.

[Arizona]

 

Get Rid

Davis (with a heavy heart, he'll want to play at a higher level)

Davies

 

Two things Mikey.

 

1. What's Davies done to deserve being released so soon?

 

2. Don't you think that forward pairing will be absolutely hopeless when it comes to physical battles, work rate, aerial ability and ultimately, scoring?

 

Davis has done absolutely nothing wrong, he's been my player of the season definately. Only thing is, would he really play for us in League 1? I doubt it. Considering his impressive form this season then there will be plenty of clubs at CCC level (or perhaps higher?) wanting his signature. Unless he wants to play at a low level for virtually nothing (which is what we could afford to pay) then I don't think we'll be able to keep him, so to get rid of him at the earliest possible opportunity and for the most money would be the better (and most probable) scenario.

 

[Andy_Porter]

1. Kelvin Davis - He'll be gone too good for league one.

2. Chris Perry - Stay.

3. Wayne Thomas - Won't be able to sell him or even give him away so he will stay.

4. Marek Saganowski - Sold or loaned out for sure, no way will he play L1.

5. Jan-Paul Saeijs - Too good for L1 and probably too expensive.

6. Michael Svensson - No chance he's coming back.

7. Rudi Skacel - **** him off even if it's on a free, doesn't care and doesn't want to be here. Waste of space, i'd rather we play Mills at LB.

8. Bradley Wright-Phillips - First one out the door, useless waste of money.

9. Grzegorz Rasiak - Sold or Loaned out.

10. Paul Wotton - Will stay because no one in there right mind would sign him.

11. Andrew Surman - One of the "crown jewels" get rid, hopefully we can find someone to actually give us money for him.

12. Lee Holmes - keep, hopefully he can play more than 11 games next season.

13. Tommy Forecast - Get rid, don't really need all these goalies.

14. Stern John - Contracts up.

15. Jason Euell - Contracts up.

16. Romain Gasmi - Gone.

17. David McGoldrick - Probably worth keeping unless he wants to leave.

18. Nathan Dyer - Sell him for a few quid.

19. Morgan Schneiderlin - Can't see anyone buying him after this season so i guess he stays.

20. Adam Lallana - See Surman, hopefully we can get 500k+ for him

21. Jamie Hatch - keep.

22. Simon Gillett - definitely keep.

23. Lloyd James - Keep

24. Oliver Lancashire - Keep

25. Michael Poke - Depends which keepers leave.

26. Jake Thomson - Keep

27. Kyle Davies - Keep

28. Bartosz Bialkowski - Keep

29. Jeffrey Immudia - Keep

33. Joseph Mills - Keep

34. Jamie White - Keep

35. Matthew Paterson - Keep

37. Oscar Gobern - Keep

40. Anthony Pulis - Doubt we will be able to sell him

41. Zoltan Liptak - Gone

42. Kayne McLaggon - keep

43. Lee Molyneux - Doubt we will be able to sell him either

 

Bart

James Perry Thomas © Mills

Thomson Gillett Schneiderlin Holmes

McGoldrick Paterson

 

Subs: Poke, Lancashire, McLaggon, Gobern and Wotton

 

Not a terrible side, i'd probably prefer that 11 to the side we will put out tomorrow. The main problem is obviously strength in depth. Would need to bring in loans/freebies upfront and in the centre of midfield and defence.

 

If by some miracle we do have funds available then we should put it all into signing Size permanently and make him captain. All money should be spent on experienced players and not teenagers.

[SuperMikey]

Arizona - just realised the mistake! D'oh. People mix up Davis/Davies all the time on this board, guess I thought you'd done the same..

 

Well, can't say i've seen very much of him apart from a few pre-season friendlies over the years, and while I know that CB is a position we're short of people for, Davies doesn't really seem up to scratch. To be fair though I haven't seen him play for the first team, so perhaps give him a chance. It's another couple of hundred quid off the wage bill if he does go though, which is always useful.

 

And Docker-P, while DMG has been pretty sh*te for most of the season, he's looked a lot better in the last few games - and he's scored a couple too. While he's not been very successful in L1 in the past goalwise (loan at Port Vale I think) from what i've seen of him recently I think he could be a good player for us at that level. And if he has a few seasons at that level, scoring goals for us, then that will help him develop as a player and hopefully be of a decent standard when we come back up to the CCC!!

[chivvy1664]

1. Kelvin Davis - Leaving and who could blame him to good for league 1

2. Chris Perry - People seem to rate him but another year older.

3. Wayne Thomas - If he is out of contract i expect him to leave.

4. Marek Saganowski -will be sold cheap

5. Jan-Paul Saeijs - Gone. Shame he wasnt here at the start of the season.

6. Michael Svensson - keep as coach

7. Rudi Skacel - He will be gone

8. Bradley Wright-Phillips - will probably join another ccc outfit for next to nothing.

9. Grzegorz Rasiak - Loaned out again or sold for peanuts to another ccc outfit.

10. Paul Wotton - Keep as this could be his level

11. Andrew Surman - get rid if he was right footed no one would rate him that highly.

12. Lee Holmes - keep .hope stays free of injury.

13. Tommy Forecast - ?

14. Stern John - gone to another ccc outfit

15. Jason Euell - will go to another ccc club

16. Romain Gasmi - go

17. David McGoldrick - We will sell mcgoldrick for 400k to another ccc

18. Nathan Dyer - as above

19. Morgan Schneiderlin - Who knows.. again rated but why?

20. Adam Lallana - sell if we can. But he aint going to get much flatters to decieve.

21. Jamie Hatch - He will stay

22. Simon Gillett - he will stay

23. Lloyd James - he will stay

24. Oliver Lancashire - He will stay.

25. Michael Poke - Dunno what is the point/

26. Jake Thomson - stay as he will be good at league one. But not as a right back

27. Kyle Davies - stay

28. Bartosz Bialkowski - Stay and be number 1

29. Jeffrey Immudia - stay

33. Joseph Mills - stay

34. Jamie White - stay

35. Matthew Paterson - stay

37. Oscar Gobern - stay

40. Anthony Pulis - stay

41. Zoltan Liptak - going anyway

42. Kayne McLaggon - keep and give a chance in the team

43. Lee Molyneux - will stay

 

 

There is a real danger that we attempt to conquer League one with a team full of kids.

 

We need more than this.

 

However finances may dictate. Surely we will be in better shape with the big earners out of contract this summer.

[saint lard]

Next season is a prime opportunity to blood some youngsters.....oh.

[qwertySFC]

1. Kelvin Davis - Leaving and who could blame him to good for league 1

2. Chris Perry - People seem to rate him but another year older.

3. Wayne Thomas - If he is out of contract i expect him to leave.

4. Marek Saganowski -will be sold cheap

5. Jan-Paul Saeijs - Gone. Shame he wasnt here at the start of the season.

6. Michael Svensson - keep as coach

7. Rudi Skacel - He will be gone

8. Bradley Wright-Phillips - will probably join another ccc outfit for next to nothing.

9. Grzegorz Rasiak - Loaned out again or sold for peanuts to another ccc outfit.

10. Paul Wotton - Keep as this could be his level

11. Andrew Surman - get rid if he was right footed no one would rate him that highly.

12. Lee Holmes - keep .hope stays free of injury.

13. Tommy Forecast - ?

14. Stern John - gone to another ccc outfit

15. Jason Euell - will go to another ccc club

16. Romain Gasmi - go

17. David McGoldrick - We will sell mcgoldrick for 400k to another ccc

18. Nathan Dyer - as above

19. Morgan Schneiderlin - Who knows.. again rated but why?

20. Adam Lallana - sell if we can. But he aint going to get much flatters to decieve.

21. Jamie Hatch - He will stay

22. Simon Gillett - he will stay

23. Lloyd James - he will stay

24. Oliver Lancashire - He will stay.

25. Michael Poke - Dunno what is the point/

26. Jake Thomson - stay as he will be good at league one. But not as a right back

27. Kyle Davies - stay

28. Bartosz Bialkowski - Stay and be number 1

29. Jeffrey Immudia - stay

33. Joseph Mills - stay

34. Jamie White - stay

35. Matthew Paterson - stay

37. Oscar Gobern - stay

40. Anthony Pulis - stay

41. Zoltan Liptak - going anyway

42. Kayne McLaggon - keep and give a chance in the team

43. Lee Molyneux - will stay

 

 

There is a real danger that we attempt to conquer League one with a team full of kids.

 

We need more than this.

 

However finances may dictate. Surely we will be in better shape with the big earners out of contract this summer.

 

 

However, if we got some "total football" Dutch type of coach we could walk that league ,

[callysaint76]

From what i have seen Paterson and Jake Thompson are no way near a good enough standard, even for league 1.

 

I think lloyd James will develop into a quality player and i reckon Gillet is definately worth keeping hold of.

[Window Cleaner]

The stupid thing is, it probably is. We always do things at the wrong time.

 

The CCC is a good time to appoint a young coach and give them time, outside the spotlight of the premiership. Many clubs have done this, Boothroyd, Clough, whoever is at watford, to name a few. Yet we appointed them in the premiership! Who knows if Wigley or Gray would have done better in the CCC. I bet they'd have done a lot better than Burley. I'd rather have had either of them this season. I just didn't want them in the premiership.

 

Then youth football. Okay if you're rebuilding in the lower leagues, you still need experience of course, but there are some players that will do well in league 1 if we go down. DMG already did well in one spell there, which highlights the difference in quality.

 

Could also add the fact that Burley spent 13 million quid, which would have been pretty handy after the cup final instead of being wasted in the championship on dross.

 

In fact the CCC probably isn't the place for young or neophyte coaches.

McCarthy,McCleish,Coppell,Dave Jones,Blackwell,Warnock,

 

You have to come down to Martinez to find a neophyte.

Even Coyle is in his 7th season of management already.

[St_Tel49]

Oh dear! Off you go and have a bet then,as the saying goes "a fool and his money are soon parted"

 

Smith is woeful,so one footed it`s a joke,remember he was a Millwall reserve

although they are probably better than us right now. He does these pointless step overs, pointless because the defender knows which way he is going because he only has the one leg..

 

The service to the front to is pathetic in the extreme so Saganowski has had

very limited chances in any case,but is miles and miles better than anything else we have.

bearing that in mind you are still happy to slag off one of our better outfield players (McG) and forgive Saga his goal drought. Doesn't make any sense to me!!!

[vectraman]

Re David McGoldrick, here are his div 1 stats - if you think they are impressive then you are easily pleased!

 

Port vale 15 app 2 goals

Bournemouth 12 app 0 goals

 

 

Source http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=37797

 

Div1 is a physical league. Less time on the ball, lots of huff and puff, big defenders, most teams have a target man upfront to hold the ball up ala Steve Howard this season at Leicester.

 

Forest/Leeds/Sheff Wed have all failed to get out of this league at the first attempt. ( I watch Bournemouth and Saints - I Support my 2 local league teams!). Having seen Bournemouth playing regularly in Div 1 and now 2, I have seen Surman, DMG, and Jake Thomson at this level. DMG was lazy and ineffective. Surman good, and Jake Thomson quick and scared defenders.

 

Maybe (possibly!) paired with a big target man to feed off, DMG could be dangerous and score goals. If we don't get any offers for him then worth a try....providing we get a big physical frontman, who can scare defenders, hold the ball up, and bring the quicker forwards/midfielders into play around the box.

 

Play with 2 nippers up front and....it'll be deja vu all over again. Div 2 here we come...

 

Gotta keep some experience in the team, surely we'll have learnt that much from this disastrous season?!