A big thankyou to those who boycotted

[Mole]

Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning.

 

Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.

[fish fingers]

Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning.

 

Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.

 

loads of ********

[Viking Warrior]

Another stupid post by Stanley

 

Wake up and smell the friggin coffee stanley.

 

It wasnt the stay away fans that ousted lowe and co, maybe you shuld start

banking your benefits with Barclays. Im sure they will be pleased to do your

banking for you.

 

**** just realised I need to restore you to my ignore list

[itchen]

Let. It. Go.

[Mole]

loads of ********

 

So you think it'd be preferable to be facing life in League 1 with lowe and Wilde at the helm?

 

Wake up and smell the coffee. Those who tipped the Lowe/Wilde regime over the edge have given SFC a new lease of life.

[Ed Rooney]

Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning.

 

Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.

 

Everything has to have a beginning and i agree stanley this was the start of it. Finally the time when that arrogant **** was shown the fans are far more important than he ever would be and they have more say that he ever thought possible. No matter what that guy did as long as the fans stayed away, he would be shown as a failure again !!!!.

[Gingeletiss]

Maybe Barclays took note of the street protests after all.........IMO of course;)

[EastleighSoulBoy]

I'd rather not count my eggs too soon. Just in case our mystery man behind Pinnacle happens to be . . . . perish the thought! Surely Matt would have been aware if it was him?

[Ed Rooney]

I'd rather not count my eggs too soon. Just in case our mystery man behind Pinnacle happens to be . . . . perish the thought! Surely Matt would have been aware if it was him?

 

Don't even joke ESB but it isnt him

[Third Division South Days]

Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning.

 

Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.

 

Absolute drivel.

[sadoldgit]

Yes and well done in helping the club into Adminstartion and ensuring that we start next season - 10 points. Just brilliant.

[slickmick]

You want to take the credit but will you take the blame if the Pinnacle deal falls through. Will you take the blame for our club dissapearing ?

[Charlie24]

So you think it'd be preferable to be facing life in League 1 with lowe and Wilde at the helm?

Are you eight years old? What does that have to do with the boycotters. There are alternatives and options in between the two.

Anybody who thinks the decline in attendances were in any significant way caused by the return of Lowe and not the quality of football, price of ticket etc. etc. is an r-tard

[solentstars]

Another stupid post by Stanley

 

Wake up and smell the friggin coffee stanley.

 

It wasnt the stay away fans that ousted lowe and co, maybe you shuld start

banking your benefits with Barclays. Im sure they will be pleased to do your

banking for you.

 

**** just realised I need to restore you to my ignore list

 

i agree what a tool,lately he posted some sensible posts but now he reverts back to posting his usual rubbish.

[Pilchards]

Stanley, what a load of tosh.

 

Can't believe you would be happy in division 1 with a team of crap players.

Dear oh dear!

 

I think it's time you got outside away from your PC as your average of 14 a day is a sign of being hooked on this forum.

Edited 1 June, 2009 by Pilchards

[Wes Tender]

Look, children, let's put all of this behind us. The sun is shining, the bad people have all gone, we can now look forward, not back.

[INFLUENCED.COM]

Not really the time for back slapping, some saw the potential ramifications of administration and throughout this process there were times when it looked like those fears would be realised.

Thoughts should remain for those smaller creditors who have lost out, do you think they share in this "feelgood factor" ?

[Gingeletiss]

Look, children, let's put all of this behind us. The sun is shining, the bad people have all gone, we can now look forward, not back.

 

Have they?????..........did you check under your bed this morning???......be afraid, be very afraid;);)

[ART]

I'm afraid there are too many on here counting their chickens before they're hatched.

 

Let's all wait till everything is signed, sealed and delivered before we start crowing and getting carried away. There is many a slip between the cup and the mouth and words are fine, cheap and easy to put out. It's the final deal that will allow us to make bold statements and celebrate.

[SET]

Is it just me that gets really irratated by the phrase "wake up and smell the coffee".

 

It seems to only be used by complete morons in society.

Edited 1 June, 2009 by SET

[70's Mike]

Was this post really necessary , there are no winners or losers within the fans and this just stirs up unnecessary sh*t

[Wes Tender]

I'm afraid there are too many on here counting their chickens before they're hatched.

 

Let's all wait till everything is signed, sealed and delivered before we start crowing and getting carried away. There is many a slip between the cup and the mouth and words are fine, cheap and easy to put out. It's the final deal that will allow us to make bold statements and celebrate.

 

Art, I recall your post a few years back when it seemed that we had rid the club of Lowe. You urged caution, pointing out quite rightly that Lowe and his cronies still held around 25 % of the shares and that until somebody else bought those shares, it was always possible that they could return.

 

You were proved right about that. On the face of it, that is not a realistic possibility this time around. Yes, we need to dot the "i"s and cross the "t"s, but the wave of optimism is certainly understandable after what we have endured and it will be difficult to dampen it with a dose of reality. Let's hope everything goes smoothly.

[eelpie]

Not really the time for back slapping, some saw the potential ramifications of administration and throughout this process there were times when it looked like those fears would be realised.

Thoughts should remain for those smaller creditors who have lost out, do you think they share in this "feelgood factor" ?

 

Top post.

 

Perhaps all the money that many on here have pledged to save our club should go to the genuine small local suppliers to SFC - ordinary people like you and I - who have seriously lost out. It is they who are really bearing the cost of our gain.

 

Perhaps we should be looking at this.

[bungle]

Stanley, you are a skate.

[Chez]

would it not be more appropriate to thank JP and the players for losing every week thereby putting off the more casual fans. I'd of thought there were far more casual fans deciding to not turn up than boycotters.

[saint1977]

It wasn't stay away fans or any other fan-related factor that drove the club into admin, it was years of incompetence and gross mismanagement plain & simple. Anyway, about time we all moved on, no more Askham or Teflon Jones etc.

[The9]

Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning.

 

Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.

 

Bwahahahahahahaha ! Well done, yes. Unless of course the 21 days end without an actual takeover, and then we're still ****ed - oh, and that's assuming anyone ACTUALLY boycotted... cos I don't recall endless protests outside the ground by people refusing to go to the matches all season long, you know, the kind of thing that actually might have made a difference ?

 

Since when did mowing the lawn and watching Final Score amount to anything ? You may as well thank all the people who didn't go to Saints Aid, didn't contribute to any of the buckets and didn't give a monkey's, cos they "forced the administrator into acting".

 

You plank.

[end of an era2]

Utter ballax from Stanley but what do you expect?

A word of advice Stanley, best as wait until Mr X has actually anteed up

the money before exposing to the whole world exactly what Saint's Fans are prepared to do to remove someone they don't rate.

 

As far as I know the deal hasn't gone down yet and could still end abruptly leaving us in the brown. So cool it .

[stardustonmyfeet]

I bet all those boycotters will flood back to watch us bumble around at the bottom of League 1 now that theold boardroom has been flushed out. Or maybe they'll just wait until we stop making fools of ourselves on the pitch, which is the place that really matters.

[miserableoldgit]

Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning.

 

Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.

This is total nonsense. The reason that crowds fell was due to the very poor standard of displays on the pitch. This coupled with the current financial meltdown made going to Saints matches a very good way of throwing your money down the drain. I have a ST and even I found it hard to go at times despite having paid my money up front. There was NO real anti-Lowe boycott that effected crowd sizes. There were a few "vocal" posters on here who made a big deal of their staying away because of Lowe, that is all. Mind you I suspect that you only posted this to get a reaction, so in that respect you should be happy.

[Doctoroncall]

Not really the time for back slapping, some saw the potential ramifications of administration and throughout this process there were times when it looked like those fears would be realised.

Thoughts should remain for those smaller creditors who have lost out, do you think they share in this "feelgood factor" ?

 

As my brother is a creditor who is owed ~£25k, he's not particularly happy as it has a knock on effect that he cannot pay bills on time so effecting other firms. These are tough times and it doesn't just stop at SFC but many other companies down the line.

[mattyd]

Maybe the stay aways and protests did contribute in that they lost confidence in Lowe et al and pulled the plug? After all Crouch claims he had the support of the bank.

[SaintDonkey]

**** you Stanley.

 

(infraction please Mods)

[Foxstone]

I hate the smell of "Burning Martyr" !

 

I stopped going because of the crap served up on the pitch that was not value for money, and I suspect 99.99% of other stayaways did the same !

[Doctoroncall]

This is total nonsense. The reason that crowds fell was due to the very poor standard of displays on the pitch. This coupled with the current financial meltdown made going to Saints matches a very good way of throwing your money down the drain. I have a ST and even I found it hard to go at times despite having paid my money up front. There was NO real anti-Lowe boycott that effected crowd sizes. There were a few "vocal" posters on here who made a big deal of their staying away because of Lowe, that is all. Mind you I suspect that you only posted this to get a reaction, so in that respect you should be happy.

 

I had these to hand for some reason. These are the average attendance figures for the season up until November... Interesting to note that the biggest drop (%) is Birmingham, us and then Reading. It would also be interesting to see if they have changed and by how much over the full season and to see by fixture throughout the season:

 

Team............. Ave '07-'08... Ave '08-'09... change.. Percent change

Derby County........ 32,432.... 29,298.... -3,134.... -10%

Sheffield United..... 25,630.... 25,432.... -198....... -1%

Norwich City......... 24,527.... 24,158.... -369....... -2%

Wolverhampton W.. 23,498.... 23,776.... 278........ 1%

Charlton Athletic.... 23,159.... 21,097.... -2,062.... -9%

Sheffield Wed........ 21,418.... 20,585.... -833....... -4%

Nottingham Forest.. 19,955.... 20,500.... 545........ 3%

Ipswich Town........ 21,934.... 20,463.... -1,471.... -7%

Reading................ 23,585.... 19,138.... -4,447.... -19%

Birmingham City..... 26,180.... 18,912.... -7,268.... -28%

Cardiff City........... 13,771.... 18,040.... 4,269...... 31%

Coventry City........ 19,123.... 17,414.... -1,709.... -9%

Bristol City............ 16,275.... 17,216.... 941........ 6%

Southampton........ 21,253.... 15,675.... -5,578.... -26%

Crystal Palace....... 16,032.... 15,147.... -885....... -6%

Swansea.............. 13,519.... 15,137.... 1,618...... 12%

Watford............... 16,876.... 14,525.... -2,351.... -14%

Barnsley............... 11,424.... 14,279.... 2,855...... 25%

Queens Park R....... 13,958.... 14,143.... 185........ 1%

Preston North End.. 12,646.... 12,830.... 184........ 1%

Burnley................ 12,364.... 12,263.... -101....... -1%

Doncaster............. 07,978.... 11,674.... 3,696...... 46%

Plymouth Argyle..... 13,002.... 11,258.... -1,744.... -13%

Blackpool.............. 08,860.... 07,902.... -958....... -11%

[up and away]

Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning.

 

Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.

 

You really are one dumb ****. So what next, russian roulette to make up for the short fall in your rates? It all worked out ok so that was an excellent option!

[OldNick]

As my brother is a creditor who is owed ~£25k, he's not particularly happy as it has a knock on effect that he cannot pay bills on time so effecting other firms. These are tough times and it doesn't just stop at SFC but many other companies down the line.

Whilst having no direct control over the clubs finances being a saints fan, it gives me no pleasure seeing people out of pocket.That is just why administration and the wishing for us to go into it was immoral IMHO

[Smirking_Saint]

Boycotts ?? more like stay at homes. I suspect the 'boycott' era was just a bandwagon excuse to those that had given up and/or could not afford to go because of the credit crunch and all that.

 

As for the post i notice you were not all singing all dancing when we were all worried about the club going into liquidation a few weeks back.

 

So congrats guys for pushing us into unsteady waters, pushing us to league 1 and a - 10 congrats for tearing more confidence from an underconfident team. Face it, the big boycott was just a small flash in the pan and did nothing, the major reason of decline was **** football and less money.

[miserableoldgit]

Boycotts ?? more like stay at homes. I suspect the 'boycott' era was just a bandwagon excuse to those that had given up and/or could not afford to go because of the credit crunch and all that.

 

As for the post i notice you were not all singing all dancing when we were all worried about the club going into liquidation a few weeks back.

 

So congrats guys for pushing us into unsteady waters, pushing us to league 1 and a - 10 congrats for tearing more confidence from an underconfident team. Face it, the big boycott was just a small flash in the pan and did nothing, the major reason of decline was **** football and less money.

Exactly right.

[kpturner]

Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning.

 

Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.

You are truly a skilled wind-up merchant. Had me in stitches - thanks for the belly laugh :-) Do you sit back and keep a count of the number of bites you get afterwards? Surely nobody read this and thought you were being serious.

[shurlock]

Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning.

 

Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.

 

moron, you probably couldnt count the stay aways on your six fingers. The man u turnout spoke volumes to the number (or lack) of people who boycotted out of principle. That's quite apart from the effect of poor attendances on morale.

[St Landrew]

FWIW, I think Stanley may have a point. I believe the stay aways were considerable. Perhaps it was just a case of staying at home. But there is usually a catalyst for such changes in behaviour. At least we'll get to see, in any case. Which certainly wasn't going to be the case only a short time ago.

[NickG]

moron, you probably couldnt count the stay aways on your six fingers. The man u turnout spoke volumes to the number (or lack) of people who boycotted out of principle. That's quite apart from the effect of poor attendances on morale.

 

that sums it up totally.

[Junior Mullet]

Thankyou for making the sacrifice and killing off the Lowe regime. You are the reason that Lowe and Wilde are no longer at the club. You are the reason that we don't have to endure life in League 1 with Lowe and Wilde still at the club. You are the reason that Saints are now on the verge of single ownership, and that the PLC is dead. You are the reason that Saints now have a future and that the feelgood factor is returning.

 

Thankyou for making it happen, you saved SFC.

 

I am not sure it's that simple. I think it was a culmination of factors that lead to Barclays losing faith in Lowe and calling time on a disasterous few years.

 

There is no doubt in my mind however that the protests played a part (not sure how major a part though) in the same way that the stand up if you want Lowe out protests a few years ago (I think Stu claims responsibility for the most successful and memorable of these) gave the impetus to Wilde etc to oust him then.

 

Fan power should never be underestimated - especially outside of the Prem when the club is so reliant on our cash and support.

[Frank's cousin]

The biggest problem in the last 3 years was simply Lowe, Wilde and CRouch all pulling in different directions rather than looking at the situation pragmatically and doing what was best for the club both short and long term - you had Lowe who has always placed too much emphasis on teh long term and was often blind to the short term effect until it was too late - and the likes of Wilde and then Crouch who were very much short term thinkers - the right approach lies somewher in teh middle so its a shame they could not work together!

 

All culpable to some extent in our fall from grace and subsequent admininstration - none of them did ths out of malice or spite yet Stanley and a few others respond with just that. I could make some excuse about how emotive football is so in some respect its justifiable - but frankly its just childish.

 

... and nothing is signed yet and we dont knwo who/what will appear in the boardroom. MLT and TL? GReat effort and great work todate in securing a buyer, but where is the experience? Sorry, but we need calm and cool experienced heads who know how to run a tight ship, and it worries me a little that we might get a lot a well meaning yet inexperienced board

[miserableoldgit]

FWIW, I think Stanley may have a point. I believe the stay aways were considerable. Perhaps it was just a case of staying at home. But there is usually a catalyst for such changes in behaviour. At least we'll get to see, in any case. Which certainly wasn't going to be the case only a short time ago.

I think that the catalyst was the dreadful performances (product). Would there have been such a drop in attendances had the "Dutch Revolution" proved successful and we had been challenging for promotion?

No doubt there was wide spread dissatisfaction that Lowe and Wilde were back and a few people may have "boycotted" but to many Lowe was a convenient peg to hang the "non-attendance" hat on rather than say "I am not going becauase the team is crap". That would make you "not a proper fan!"

[spain saint]

Whilst I don´t think that this thread is necessary, I can´t help pointing out the hypocrisy that is being displayed all over it! Many of the people now saying that there were not many stay-aways because of Lowe, are the same people that were condemning all the many stay-aways last season. Please make up your minds!

[INFLUENCED.COM]

Many of the people now saying that there were not many stay-aways because of Lowe, are the same people that were condemning all the many stay-aways last season. Please make up your minds!

 

I think its that many are saying Lowe was a convenient excuse for stay-aways, the fact that we struggled throughout the season with at times very poor displays lingering around and in the drop zone was the reason for most staying away, noone can deny that many thousands stayed away the figures are there for all to see

[Frank's cousin]

Nope many folk stayed away - that was obvious from teh agte - what was oft debated was how many or how few of thse were genuinely staywing away becaus eof Lowe versus just because we were crap - vast majority because we were crap IMHO as witnessed by a sell out when Man U played...

[The9]

I had these to hand for some reason. These are the average attendance figures for the season up until November... Interesting to note that the biggest drop (%) is Birmingham, us and then Reading. It would also be interesting to see if they have changed and by how much over the full season and to see by fixture throughout the season:

 

All that proves is that the crap standard of football on show was evident the previous season as well, and the decision to *ahem* "boycott Lowe" was made on the on-pitch failures of 2007/8 not 2008/9 - which can be seen in the ST figures alone.

 

The most misleading stat that doubtless will get trotted out in years to come will be the big spike in the attendance the match AFTER Lowe left, which of course was due to £5 tickets.