Congratulations Wayne Rooney

Wasn't sure where to put this so if it needs moving..........

Congratulations to Wayne Rooney for breaking the goal scoring record.

People will ***** and moan about him and i'll admit i'm not a big Rooney fan but the record speaks for itself and it's a great achievement.

107 appearances with 50 goals.

The nation should get behind him for the Euro's rather than pulling apart his record!!

I'm not a great fan either but I take my hat off to him. 50 goals are a lot for level, let alone an international.

Not Saints related.

Not Saints related.

Well played. Didn't think anyone would notice. You must be the brains then....

Not Saints related.

Hmm... won't he be playing against us in a couple of weeks?

(Very thin, I'll grant you that)

It's no more impressive than scoring 50 goals in the Championship to be honest. There's a complete list of them here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_goals_scored_by_Wayne_Rooney

Never scored in a knockout game of a major tournament. 2 goals in any major tournament since 2004, despite being almost ever present.

A tap in against Uruguay last summer in a tournament in which he was dreadful and a free header from all of 6 inches out against Ukraine at Euro 2012.

He has been consistently mediocre for England. A half century against teams like Andorra, San Marino, Estonia, Montenegro, Slovenia and Belarus really isn't anything great.

It's no more impressive than scoring 50 goals in the Championship to be honest. There's a complete list of them here

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_goals_scored_by_Wayne_Rooney

 

Never scored in a knockout game of a major tournament. 2 goals in any major tournament since 2004, despite being almost ever present.

A tap in against Uruguay last summer in a tournament in which he was dreadful and a free header from all of 6 inches out against Ukraine at Euro 2012.

 

He has been consistently mediocre for England. A half century against teams like Andorra, San Marino, Estonia, Montenegro, Slovenia and Belarus really isn't anything great.

This and Robbie Keane has scored 60 goals for the republic of Ireland ... must make him better than Rooney as Rooney's surrounded by Premier League (alleged) superstars setting him up for tap ins.

Struggling to think of a memorable Rooney moment in an England shirt. No one game or goal stands out for him like some of the other players in the list he is now above.

It's no more impressive than scoring 50 goals in the Championship to be honest. There's a complete list of them here

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_goals_scored_by_Wayne_Rooney

 

Never scored in a knockout game of a major tournament. 2 goals in any major tournament since 2004, despite being almost ever present.

A tap in against Uruguay last summer in a tournament in which he was dreadful and a free header from all of 6 inches out against Ukraine at Euro 2012.

 

He has been consistently mediocre for England. A half century against teams like Andorra, San Marino, Estonia, Montenegro, Slovenia and Belarus really isn't anything great.

For a long time now has been picked on his reputation/status rather than his current ability...

Not showed during tournaments because his shortcomings have been more noticeable then..

Over the hill in all honesty and no point in getting all emotional over him.

He is now probably holding England back....

It's no more impressive than scoring 50 goals in the Championship to be honest. There's a complete list of them here

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_goals_scored_by_Wayne_Rooney

 

Never scored in a knockout game of a major tournament. 2 goals in any major tournament since 2004, despite being almost ever present.

A tap in against Uruguay last summer in a tournament in which he was dreadful and a free header from all of 6 inches out against Ukraine at Euro 2012.

 

He has been consistently mediocre for England. A half century against teams like Andorra, San Marino, Estonia, Montenegro, Slovenia and Belarus really isn't anything great.

This.

No real impact when it mattered.

This.

 

No real impact when it mattered.

+1 F#ck Rooney. You've no idea what you're talking about OP.

+1 F#ck Rooney. You've no idea what you're talking about OP.

What exactly don't I know then? Please enlighten me.

2 major tournament goals in the last tens years.......... And loads of penaltys

Might have been more celebrated if he was a better role model.

I won't be joining the social media ****athon over him.

All I've ever seen him do is waddle around the pitch, spitting and swearing with his hands on his head or on his hips crying to the ref because he got binned by a defender yet again. As others have said - never scored a goal when it mattered. His goal celebration the other night said it all - scores against what is essentially a pub side at international level and celebrates like he just won the World Cup.

I wonder if people would be talking about him like this if there had been an England manager with the balls to actually pick players who will go out and perform in an England shirt.

2 major tournament goals in the last tens years.......... And loads of penaltys

 

Might have been more celebrated if he was a better role model.

He's only scored 6 penalties

Someone lent me a DVD of the Rooney major tournament goals for England the other day,

Should of known it was going to be a blank one!

The guy is a waste of space at these big events as he's either injured, fat or a choker - END OF.

I can only think why did it take him 107 games against that type of opposition. If linekar had the same list of opponents he would have probably got nearer 70 goals.

Rooney has held England back for years.

I'm not a great fan either but I take my hat off to him. 50 goals are a lot for level, let alone an international.

Agreed. A lot of bitterness in here. He has not produced enough for England but whatever the case 50 goals and the national record holder is a significant achievement. Plenty more to come as well.

Take a look at this from BBC: http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/34179398

The short of it is that while he has a numerical edge in goals over Charlton and Lineker, the impact of his goals pale in comparison.

"Lineker was a*Golden Boot winner*with six goals at the 1986 World Cup in Mexico, adding four goals at Italia 90, including the equaliser in the semi-final that England eventually lost on penalties to West Germany."

"Rooney deserves huge respect and admiration for his feats and, while this is not a criticism, he still comes in behind Charlton and Lineker."

A significant achievement when compared to what any of us have achieved in football, but not that great really. Goals against Sierra Leone, the Isle of Man and Digibouti and nothing when it really matters. Plus an horrific attitude and a dreadful role model for kids.

F*ck him.

I find the above post to be neither 'nice' or very 'friendly' for that matter. It is however remarkably churlish and mean-spirited.

As for Wayne Rooney, becoming your country's leading goal scorer is a very real achievement by any reckoning, even if winning something would be a more significant accomplishment I think.

It's no more impressive than scoring 50 goals in the Championship to be honest. There's a complete list of them here

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_international_goals_scored_by_Wayne_Rooney

 

Never scored in a knockout game of a major tournament. 2 goals in any major tournament since 2004, despite being almost ever present.

A tap in against Uruguay last summer in a tournament in which he was dreadful and a free header from all of 6 inches out against Ukraine at Euro 2012.

 

He has been consistently mediocre for England. A half century against teams like Andorra, San Marino, Estonia, Montenegro, Slovenia and Belarus really isn't anything great.

Quite.

People who get on the rooney bandwagon give support to our very medicore FA and England set up and directly support how crap we are.

Rooney, whilst a good player, has never done it for england, and his goalscoring record counts for very little vs the Great england strikers.

Like him or loathe him - 50 goals at that level is worthy of respect especially when you consider that he hasn't exactly had a great England team around him, nor have England progressed particularly far in tournaments. FWIW Bobby Charlton played is what was arguably the best team in the world for almost a decade plus he scored against the San Marinos of the day - we walloped the uSA 10-0 and we did Mexico by 8 on a couple of occasions.

Ultimately, and he has said this himself, he won't be considered one of the greats until he has won something.

Given that no one has managed to take the shirt from him in over ten years would suggest he is the best we have.

Lets put another slant on it, it is an achievement but not as great as Bobby Charltons. When Charlton was playing he had number of players that could have challenged him for his position in the side with the likes of Greaves ect, because of the influx of players from overseas there has been a lack of English players to challange Rooney for his place in the side. But I have got to give to the lad he has done it but part of me wanted him to miss that pen last night and not break the record, because IMO Rooney will never be the player Charlton was in his day.

A significant achievement when compared to what any of us have achieved in football, but not that great really. Goals against Sierra Leone, the Isle of Man and Digibouti and nothing when it really matters. Plus an horrific attitude and a dreadful role model for kids.

 

F*ck him.

bit harsh. bottom line is people are p*ssed that rooney isn't as good as charlton, and that he doesn't 'deserve' the tally because very few have been decisive goals.

but it's not a problem with rooney - its a problem with england. his form just reflects england's over last few years. Playing dirt poor opposition, getting kicked out of tournaments, being 'good' or 'solid' but never actually 'world class'. Give him a break.

He's achieved something, and relatively consistently (cept for a coupl' years) produced alright performances. Not glowing praise, but sadly that's better than quite a few of the england squad.

Ashley Cole, JT on his day, Gerrard, Scholes. Are there many more in last decade worthy of really challenging at int'l level?

He has done well to get the record. The self indulgence of it all however speaks volumes of how rotten our national game is. Let's only be congratulatory if it means something in the grander scheme of things, shall we?

Plenty more to come as well.

The saddest part of it all. We've probably got another 2 years of this overrated fat **** waddling around the pitch, failing to do it when it matters but getting his tap in against the Andorras of the world. If only we had an England manager brave enough to pick on ability and not reputation. Rooney used to be a great player, but hasn't been for at least a few years. Consistently average

Comparisons are difficult because a lot depends on the calibre of the team that you're playing in.

It could be argued that the quality of the England team of the late 60's (Charlton) and the early 90's (Lineker) was better than the side from the last 10 years or so. Also, there seemed to be fewer meaningless friendlies in those days so their goals were scored in "proper" matches.

He has done well to get the record. The self indulgence of it all however speaks volumes of how rotten our national game is. Let's only be congratulatory if it means something in the grander scheme of things, shall we?

In the grand scheme of things nothing that happens on a football pitch really matters very much. In football terms however, I think becoming your country's top goal scorer is surely a (very) noteworthy achievement.

For all the criticism on here I'm not seeing any reasoned argument as to why all those England managers were wrong to select Rooney, or for that matter any suggestions as to which alternative English striker would have won us the World Cup.

The saddest part of it all. We've probably got another 2 years of this overrated fat **** waddling around the pitch, failing to do it when it matters but getting his tap in against the Andorras of the world. If only we had an England manager brave enough to pick on ability and not reputation. Rooney used to be a great player, but hasn't been for at least a few years. Consistently average

Honestly don't understand the vitriol thrown his way for his footballing ability. He's not world class but he is very good. Has a 1 in 2 record for one of the biggest clubs in the world and his country. Capable of some bad games and not a leader but as a footballer how can anyone dispute his quality? Can play in so many positions very well.

This thread shows why many on here simply don't understand much about football. Rooney is far from the greatest ever England player but this is still a wonderful achievement. You can criticize him for not performing in the major tournaments but surely no-one is more upset by that than himself. You cannot fault his effort, he always turns up for England when many cry off with a minor injury.

If he had scored all these goals twenty years ago, he would have been seen as a hero .

Now because of the internet and we find out within 30 minutes whenever he farts, we know all his bad points, so don't like him.

Bobby Charlton used to stamp on baby kittens for laughs, but we don't hear about that. (this may not be true)

I'm in agreement with the OP, which was a nod to a great achievement rather than any statements about Rooney's "greatness".

He's not the best we've ever had, but fair play for breaking a long-standing record and one he's going to add to, that will ultimately stand for a long time (if ever be broken).

He's never been as good as we hoped after that initial success at Euro 2004, but he's got a great record and is a very good player. If there was anyone better in his position over the past 12 years, they would have taken his place - they didn't and he's scored a shed load of goals.

There's some ropey opposition on his hit list for sure, which international striker doesn't have that? But equally, he's scored against the likes of the Netherlands, Argentina, Brazil, Russia and grabbed the winning goals in the last game against the Scots, a friendly but a big game all the same.

You can pull his performances and record apart however you like, it's still an impressive international achievement.

I find the above post to be neither 'nice' or very 'friendly' for that matter. It is however remarkably churlish and mean-spirited.

 

As for Wayne Rooney, becoming your country's leading goal scorer is a very real achievement by any reckoning, even if winning something would be a more significant accomplishment I think.

Oh sweet, I'm sowwie.

This and Robbie Keane has scored 60 goals for the republic of Ireland ... must make him better than Rooney as Rooney's surrounded by Premier League (alleged) superstars setting him up for tap ins.

Ouch

I think a lot of grief he's getting is down to who he is and the way he has acted (or perceived to have acted) in the past.

It's a great achievement, you would imagine that if he keeps injury free over the next 3 or 4 years then he should (hopefully) end up with about 150 caps and 70 goals. Football doesn't work like that of course, but I do think that once he finally retires, people will appreciate him more.

I do personally think he will do really well in France next year. As for the team, well I'm not sure, but there are some promising signs. Good to see Kane come off the bench last night and make a difference.

Fair play to him, 50 goals is an impressive tally and I actually think he's a better player than the critics would have you believe.

However he does need to step up to the plate in a major tournament otherwise he'll be remembered by many as a bit of a flat track bully.

I wonder if Rooney would get more credit if he were a Southampton player and didn't play for Manchester United? I am not a fan but he does deserve respect for his achievement.

I'm not sure that scoring the same number of goals as a midfielder in the same number of games is a great accolade for a striker.

He's scored 5 goals in 4 (or possibly 5) games against San Marino, playing upfront. What a hero!

He didn't score all of his goals against San Marino though did he? He plays for England and we want England to win don't we? We don't have to like him but if he does his job we have a better chance of winning something. And for all the talk of players not giving a toss about playing for their country, he does seem to care.

He didn't score all of his goals against San Marino though did he? He plays for England and we want England to win don't we? We don't have to like him but if he does his job we have a better chance of winning something. And for all the talk of players not giving a toss about playing for their country, he does seem to care.

It's more that he has only got about a goal a game vs San Marino. Eastleigh would probably beat San Marino.

You can only play what is in front of you. Hasn't he scored against Brazil and Argentina too? Would Eastleigh beat them? A record is a record. The history books wont bother about who Charlton, Rooney or Lineker scored their goals against. I prefer Charlton and Lineker but Rooney holds the record, so fair play.

You can only play what is in front of you. Hasn't he scored against Brazil and Argentina too? Would Eastleigh beat them? A record is a record. The history books wont bother about who Charlton, Rooney or Lineker scored their goals against. I prefer Charlton and Lineker but Rooney holds the record, so fair play.

Yeah, in two friendlies. Look at what other strikers have achieved, compared to Rooney

Hurst - hat trick in a WC final

Linekar - Golden boot at Mexico 86 and scored in SF against Germany in Italia 90

Shearer - Scored against Germany in 96 SF, winner against Germany in Euro 2000, 96 golden boot etc.

Owen - Wonder goal against Argentina, scored against Brazil in 02

Beckham - Free kick against Greece, penalty against Argentina in 02

I don't disagree for one minute, but he has scored 50 goals for his country and none of them have, and that is what this is all about.

I don't disagree for one minute, but he has scored 50 goals for his country and none of them have, and that is what this is all about.

Absolutely. People seem to be using their dislike of him to try and find a way to belittle his achievement which is pathetic. The bottom line is that no-one in history has scored more goals for England than he has.

Play it down if you like sure, but this thread is about being bigger than that and saying well done for setting a new record. Hopefully he will do something about his record in Finals next year. At some point someone will set a new record, and people will be typing away on their keyboards slagging him off too (unless he plays for Southampton of course )

Yeah, in two friendlies. Look at what other strikers have achieved, compared to Rooney

 

Hurst - hat trick in a WC final

Linekar - Golden boot at Mexico 86 and scored in SF against Germany in Italia 90

Shearer - Scored against Germany in 96 SF, winner against Germany in Euro 2000, 96 golden boot etc.

Owen - Wonder goal against Argentina, scored against Brazil in 02

Beckham - Free kick against Greece, penalty against Argentina in 02

Exactly, nothing memorable from Rooney at all. Maybe that goal in Russia a few years ago in qualification but that's about all I can think of. In fairness to him, he's been playing in one of the most drab decades for England in a long long time.

Wayne Rooney is a Stan Collymore in a world without Sheringhams, Fowlers, Wrights, Coles, Ferdinands and Shearers.

Decent player, good enough to play international football but the fact he has played for England enough times to become all time scorer is testament to the fact there has been a massive lack of serious, long-term rivals for his place in the team. He is not an England great.

Wayne Rooney is a Stan Collymore in a world without Sheringhams, Fowlers, Wrights, Coles, Ferdinands and Shearers.

 

Decent player, good enough to play international football but the fact he has played for England enough times to become all time scorer is testament to the fact there has been a massive lack of serious, long-term rivals for his place in the team. He is not an England great.

He scores 1 in 2 for his country. That is a pretty good record to be fair.