St Marco Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 No disrespect to Wotte, his hanging on attitude while the ship was sinking is to be commended. But in reality he is a big factor along with many who got us relegated and would probably earn more money managing here then elsewhere, so he was not going to walk (even though he said he would). Sooo say that they decide to get rid of him or maybe put him back to the youth set up, who would you like to see as manager if we were free to choose? If we have lot's of money other then myself i would like to see Pearson coming back. He would be a great choice. He knows the club, the fans love him, the football people respect him, he is seen as one of the bright up and coming english managers. Plus he knows what it takes to get out of League One. So who would you like to see be given the job if it became available?Obviously a bit of realism should be applied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Pearson is not a realistic choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I Don't Know, What Do You Think St Marco? Maybe We Could Sign Wayne Rooney Or Maybe We Could Buy Our Way Into The Champions League, If We Have Enough Cash, Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Not so sure he would be released by Mandaric/Leicester......Pearson..My favourite Manager/coach 1. Pearson if not Keegan or Shearer or both with MLT Football Chairman...Ottery tea boy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nice Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Strachan or Keegan Wotte came sixth on a poll on here btw recently http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=13536&highlight=manager+poll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 For impact and kickstarting the clubs's climb back it would have to be Keegan. For a more sensible longterm rebuilding then Tisdale. Other than those two immediately, then its to Christmas or perhaps only the the first ten games for Mark Wotte and then call for Tisdale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I think Wotte has earned a chance. I'd only replace him if someone with a consistent history of success at different clubs was available - and TBH unless the new owner were going to splash silly money I cant see anyone of that ilk being prepared to move down to Lg1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 5 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Pearson is not a realistic choice. Well if the guys/girls coming in have a bit of cash to spend then you would think they would view the manager as an important position. If they have ambition then chances are they might have to get one who is already employed. Pearson has been at Leicester a year, he is obviously still under contract. But if the Swiss people have some money and they offered some to Mandric that was at a high enough level i think he would accept, such is how he probably thinks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 No disrespect to Wotte, his hanging on attitude while the ship was sinking is to be commended. But in reality he is a big factor along with many who got us relegated and would probably earn more money managing here then elsewhere, so he was not going to walk (even though he said he would). Sooo say that they decide to get rid of him or maybe put him back to the youth set up, who would you like to see as manager if we were free to choose? If we have lot's of money other then myself i would like to see Pearson coming back. He would be a great choice. He knows the club, the fans love him, the football people respect him, he is seen as one of the bright up and coming english managers. Plus he knows what it takes to get out of League One. So who would you like to see be given the job if it became available?Obviously a bit of realism should be applied I think that you need to be realistic with your suggestions. Personally I'd have Wenger but why would he come? Equally - why would Pearson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 5 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I Don't Know' date=' What Do You Think St Marco? Maybe We Could Sign Wayne Rooney Or Maybe We Could Buy Our Way Into The Champions League, If We Have Enough Cash, Obviously.[/quote'] Why go for Rooney when you can get Ronaldo or Tessem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pilsburydoughboy Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 WGS for me is the best manager we have had for years. The team worked hard and were the fittest they have been for a long while. The best thing about WGS was the discipline he installed in the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerchampion Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I think Wotte has earned a chance. I'd only replace him if someone with a consistent history of success at different clubs was available - and TBH unless the new owner were going to splash silly money I cant see anyone of that ilk being prepared to move down to Lg1. I agree Wotte , should be given his chance with a transfer kitty to boost . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 WGS for me is the best manager we have had for years. The team worked hard and were the fittest they have been for a long while. The best thing about WGS was the discipline he installed in the team. You know that bit where WGS was our manager in the prem and he left because he wanted to win things at a higher level? How appealing would Lg1 with us be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 5 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I think that you need to be realistic with your suggestions. Personally I'd have Wenger but why would he come? Equally - why would Pearson? Sorry but i fail to see how that is not realistic? The guy had been here before, wanted to stay but couldn't. He was in League One so obviously not on Premiership style wages etc. If Pearson does well this year then other teams will look at maybe try and hire him, why can't we if we have money available? How is that unrealistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker268 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Why go for Rooney when you can get Ronaldo or Tessem? How about Ryan Smith I hear he is meant to be 'world class'....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I think that you need to be realistic with your suggestions. Personally I'd have Wenger but why would he come? Equally - why would Pearson? Must be one exceptional manager who as a boy had a fixation with large industrial cranes and dreamt of meeting the Liebherr family,let alone working with/for them (Rather like Ripping Yarns and the bloke who was obsessed with garden spades and the annual precipitation on Denley Moor... for those old enough to remember it.) WGS for me is the best manager we have had for years. The team worked hard and were the fittest they have been for a long while. The best thing about WGS was the discipline he installed in the team. WGS ? Mistake to come back ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I think the first thing they need to do is appoint a decent chief exec. After all they dont sound like people who are particualry knowledgeable of english football so we need someone who can run the club well on a day to day basis. That said i'd like to see Coppell or Tisdale, though i do think Wotte has earned a chance - at least until january Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Have championed Paul Tisdale in the past.....Everything he is doing at Exeter this pre season confirms my belief he will be a top club Manager/Coach in the next few seasons... This season appears settled with the Grecians.....But would be a good coach for us under a Director of Football like Keegan.... So having said Pearson, Keegan, Shearer, MLT and Tisdale.....It is quite clear I haven't got a clue....BUT I do know Wotte is not the Coach for the job..Failed dismally and will continue to take side down....IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Sorry but i fail to see how that is not realistic? The guy had been here before, wanted to stay but couldn't. He was in League One so obviously not on Premiership style wages etc. If Pearson does well this year then other teams will look at maybe try and hire him, why can't we if we have money available? How is that unrealistic? Because the guy will want to go forward not backwards, hmm a Lg 1 club or if he is doing well be poached by a premiership club, on far higher wages than we would be paying at the moment, know which one I would choose and Lg 1 wouldn't come into it. PS for reality at this level its gotta be Tisdale and look at the appointment as a long term prospect, half of our problems have resulted in our short term sightedness in managerial sacking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Of all the potential managers why on earth does anyone bother to suggest Nigel Pearson? He did little for Saints but has achieved promotion for a club with lots of money to spend, which almost any other half competent manager could have done. Apart from that he will presumably want to stay at Leicester. Whether the new owners will want to give Mark Wotte a run, will depend on what technical advice they have, so we shall have to see, but he seems to know what he is doing. But it is important is that if Wotte is retained the fans give him full support, just as they should if anyone else gets the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 If I was the new owner the first thing I would sort out is to make sure we had top drawer coaches. Two or three in the Glynn Snodin mould wouldn't go amiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Jo Tessem, his record in the lower leagues is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Give Wotte a chance. Let his position be conditional on the first quarter of the season, at the very least. To achieve 86 points at the end of the season, which after the 10 points deduction, would have got us into the playoffs last year, we need to be on 11 points after 11/12 games. Surely that must be an initial target. Any haul below 5 points and I would start raising questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcsfc Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Why do people keep banging on about Tisdale so much?? yes, he's done OK so far, But I guarantee you that if he never played for us no one would even be mentioning him! He is un-proven at this level, I do not want to sit around in league ONE whilst we give him time to adapt and learn his trade! IF we have a new manager, its got to be someone who is proven, also has the ability and experience to get us back up to where we belong asap But hey, thats my opinion! each to there own and all that! COYR!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 5 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Because the guy will want to go forward not backwards, hmm a Lg 1 club or if he is doing well be poached by a premiership club, on far higher wages than we would be paying at the moment, know which one I would choose and Lg 1 wouldn't come into it. Yeah but sometimes people don't think that way do they. Look at Paul Ince, went back to MK Dons, could easily have got a job in CCC. Maybe Pearson would see it as unfinished buisness. Plus as i said "IF" we have money and all this does indeed go through then would that not make us a better prospect then Leicester? Maybe he would see being at a club on a sound financial footing a better prospect? Maybe he does not like Mandric? Point being "IF" we had cash and were seriously wanting to be ambitious then i do not think appointing Pearson would be too difficult. In comparison to say appointing someone like Fergie? When i spoke to Pearson after he had just taken the Leicester job i know he cared about the club as he told me he will look for the teams results and hope they push on the following season. If he still thinks the same who knows, but when he did the Sky Sports Big Weekend show he said he is really fond of the club and area. Considering he is employed by an ex-Portsmouth chairman saying nice things about us surely could be tempting a rollicking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 If they are going to splash serious cash then Keegan has to be the best bet. He as a good record as a cheque book manager and can attract decent players. He would raise the club's profile and create a feel-good factor that would increase revenue from day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I think a lot will depend on how much we have to spend,how much freedom the manager has and how much ambition our new owners show. I doubt we will attract many takers if our present team is all there is,without any hope of strengthening for the new season. For what its worth i would want to see Pearson back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 (edited) Sorry but i fail to see how that is not realistic? The guy had been here before, wanted to stay but couldn't. He was in League One so obviously not on Premiership style wages etc. If Pearson does well this year then other teams will look at maybe try and hire him, why can't we if we have money available? How is that unrealistic? I saw enough of Pearson to think him an honourable man. I don't believe that he would walk out on Leicester. Also - he has proved he can get a team out of League 1 (though not with a 10 point penalty), so why would he want to do it yet again when he has the opportunity to have a go at getting to the Premiership with Leicester? Having said that, I don't disagree that he would be a good manager - I just don't think he'll come. Edited 5 July, 2009 by St_Tel49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 If we have big money to spend then I'd go for a big name - Keegan is the one that springs to mind. If you want players to come to a league one side you need to demonstrate ambition. However I suspect the owners will bemore realistic and reckon that next season is more about getting safely mid table than promotion, and the big spend and big name manager will come next summer. So stick with Wotte for now, I guess he's earned the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 The new owners will be shooting themselves in the foot if they stick with Wotte. Yes he has been very professional in his behavior over the last 3 months but anyone who remembers the team performances during the run in to last season could never consider putting him in charge for another season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Someone with recent and oustanding success for getting promoted from League One. Has to be Pearson. What a pity he was actually already here a year ago and the complete gimp of a chariman we ended up with felt he knew best...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 5 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I saw enough of Pearson to think him an honourable man. I don't believe that he would walk out on Leicester. Also - he has proved he can get a team out of League 1 (though not with a 10 point penalty), so why would he want to do it yet again when he has the opportunity to have a go at getting to the Premiership with Leicester? Having said that, I don't disagree that he would be a good manager - I just don't think he'll come. He is a very honourable guy as you say and would not walk out on any team, at least that is our impression. However as i mentioned above maybe he could see us as unfinished business in the same way Ince has with MK Dons. Maybe he would see our club as his best chance of getting to the prem league if we have people with millions to spend on players. Obviously as i said there are a lot of "IF's" involved with appointing a guy already in a job, it would depend fully on the ambition of the new owners. My view is that if they are ambitious and want to be here for the long haul then i can't see them keeping Wotte on, his record as a football manager is awful, if you had millions to invest would you feel confident handing it to him? Honestly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Its unlikely the new owners (may tomorrow bring them on) will provide huge amounts of cash at the outset, as to do so might provoke problems over the money paid to the Administrators for the club. Fans might need to be patient for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 If they are going to splash serious cash then Keegan has to be the best bet. He as a good record as a cheque book manager and can attract decent players. He would raise the club's profile and create a feel-good factor that would increase revenue from day 1. can't see that happening IMO , their track record in Football suggests a different approach to "Splashing the cash" , that is of course it is the Liebherr Group who do actually purchase SFC. I really can't see that they will do any thing spectacular once the Boardroom doors are opened for them. I do think some on here are maybe thinking we are going to be the next Man City , just can't see it happening .. it's all about stability first ,all of course in MHO , the Swiss themselves are very cautious business people and won't rush into decisions . All we can do is fill SMs and show our support for their decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 If they gain ownership of the club, then anyone they damn well want. They buy us, they appoint him and they back him. That's how it works. They may know the next Brian Clough/Alex Ferguson from their overseas base They may not even care about the club wanting only the car park as a storage location for their cranes while they are being unloaded. All I care is that we have a damn club next year, their train set, everyone else fooked it up, their turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 What is it with the Love in with Pearson? The guy has been in management (proper manager not assistant and so on) for 5 mins really and only done well at league 1 level with mandergit throwing a bit of money at the team. Im not saying he is a bad manager and should he have stayed has been done to death but if the new owner see's the managers job as an important one I would have thought they would be looking a little higher than Pearson TBH Personaly I will stick with what I said weeks ago in that by the time the takeover actually happens changing the manager will do more harm than good. If the take over happened last week then get a new guy in for sure. He would be able to assess what he wants and create a plan to be ready for the start of the season. change a week before our 1st game and the new manager will have to move ahead on the back of all Wotte's plans which maybe a load of shiite and make the new guy look like pooh too. We will just continue with the same old policy of changing the manager more than we change the frigging kit. So if its last minute dot com takeover then stick with Wotte and support him for the coming season. If all is drastically wrong by Xmas then change but if not give the guy a season and see where we are. we then have a full off-season to put the new owners plan into action bringing in Jose mourinhio and kevin keegan or who ever they see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imported_Saint_G Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Curbishley for me. I know he is after a Prem job, but if we waft a bit of cash at him, he may be tempted. He is a steady, experienced manager who has been in a similar situation with Charlton and managed to build them up into a Prem club whilst he was there. Not sure about his transfer successes, but then again, by the time we get in a position to be able to buy anyone for this season, I think most of the good players will have been missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Personally, I'd like to see Wotte given a chance. The morale was shot to pieces and we were set for relegation anyway when he took over. So given free rein to choose his own team, and without dressing room morale down the toilet, he could do well. If Wotte wasn't to remain in charge however, looking at realistic targets, I'd like to see Aidy Boothroyd in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Guss Hiddink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Wotte should be given a chance imo, he's been nothing but completely professional even with this whole debacle going on at the club. There are some aspects of his management which are a little suspect, but i'm sure with a decent assistant in place to help him he can iron these creases out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Well if the guys/girls coming in have a bit of cash to spend then you would think they would view the manager as an important position. If they have ambition then chances are they might have to get one who is already employed. Pearson has been at Leicester a year, he is obviously still under contract. But if the Swiss people have some money and they offered some to Mandric that was at a high enough level i think he would accept, such is how he probably thinks I think that the offer might have to be exceptionally high to overcome Mandaric's dislike for this club! It would be a dream to get KK but I don't know if he'd do it? Tisdale seems a popular choice on here and he has worked on a shoestring and at this level or thereabouts. Give Wotte a little time and see how the team is performing, then maybe look around because by October the knee jerk reactions will be in full flow and there may be a few good managers looking for work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bailey Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 From seeing Wotte's interviews recently, and after reading Fry's statement on the OS, I can't help but think that the Swiss are all set to complete their takeover and that Wotte has been assured that he will be the Manager. I might be completely wrong, but it's just my gut feeling. I'm not ITK on this one, nor do I claim to be. I guess time will tell! In answer to the question though, I'd absolutely love to see Strachan back here, but realistically I don't see it. Would be delighted with Keegan also, but again, I can't see it unless Pinnacle pull a rabbit out the hat and seal the deal. Realistically, I'd go for Tisdale but Shearer would be fantastic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Its unlikely the new owners (may tomorrow bring them on) will provide huge amounts of cash at the outset, as to do so might provoke problems over the money paid to the Administrators for the club. Fans might need to be patient for a while. Once a price is agreed, the deal done and contracts signed, the club is the new owners' to do with as they will. If they choose to spend megawads on us then the administrators will have no say in that - any more than you would if someone negotiated a huge reduction in the price of your house, then spent a fortune doing it up once they'd moved in. It's perfectly possible, of course, that new owners won't immediately splash masses of cash, but that won't be the reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I know what you are going to say, but Glenn Hoddle has to be a serious contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Wotte should be given a chance imo, he's been nothing but completely professional even with this whole debacle going on at the club. There are some aspects of his management which are a little suspect, but i'm sure with a decent assistant in place to help him he can iron these creases out. I agree, his behaviour throughout this has been exemplary and he deserves a chance without any question. It's totally unfair to judge him on last season, I have to say that chopping and changing managers has not got us far in the past. Well in fact that's wrong, it's got us all the way down to League 1 ! I'd be looking at an experienced assistant, I'd like someone like Micky Adams with a Saints background though whether he would come here as an assistant if doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 From seeing Wotte's interviews recently, and after reading Fry's statement on the OS, I can't help but think that the Swiss are all set to complete their takeover and that Wotte has been assured he will the Manager. I might be completely wrong, but it's just my gut feeling. I'm not ITK on this one, nor do I claim to be. I guess time will tell! In answer to the question though, I'd absolutely love to see Strachan back here, but realistically I don't see it. Would be delighted with Keegan also, but again, I can't see it unless Pinnacle pull a rabbit out the hat and seal the deal. Realistically, I'd go for Tisdale but Shearer would be fantastic too. Wotte won't be manager he will revert to the academy once the Swiss complete tomorrow. New manager no idea but think Coppell a good shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Keegan for me,all a bit hypothetical at the moment though,i don't want to tempt fate as things stand we are still in the mire financially and i will just be happy to be stable for a while then try to kick on. I think we will have Wotte for a while yet,in charge of first team affairs. Would be happy for Wotte to take over at the academy or such like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 I know what you are going to say, but Glenn Hoddle has to be a serious contender. We knew what you were going to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 5 July, 2009 Share Posted 5 July, 2009 Wotte won't be manager he will revert to the academy once the Swiss complete tomorrow. New manager no idea but think Coppell a good shout is this an opinion or something you know..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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