SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 (edited) Swiss based Liebherr family member(and not part of Liebherr-AG) with a $1.4 billion wealth! Edited 6 July, 2009 by SOTONS EAST SIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Swiss based Liebherr family member(and not part of Liebherr-AG) with a $1.4 billion wealth! Swiss based Liebherr family member with a $1.4 billion wealth! Not enough cash. Also, I used to translate Liebherr company reports. Swiss companies don't have to reveal jack diddly about their ownership structure in comparison to Uk, German, Dutch and French companies. They don't (didn't) reveal directors' salaries, they may be publicly listed, but the control resides entirely with family owned preference shares (many different layers thereof). Which makes it good news, coz owners can do whatever they want without having to bother with pesky ordinary share holders!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 6 July, 2009 Share Posted 6 July, 2009 Swiss based Liebherr family member(and not part of Liebherr-AG) with a $1.4 billion wealth! Not bad, I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Swiss based Liebherr family member(and not part of Liebherr-AG) with a $1.4 billion wealth! Paul Allen, an American entrepreneur who co-founded Microsoft, with a $10.5 billion wealth. :smt015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Swiss based Liebherr family member(and not part of Liebherr-AG) with a $1.4 billion wealth! Well he is not even a £ billionaire is he depending on the exchange rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Better than a chap who lives with his mum tho eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 So why is he f**kin around worrying about the odd million or two ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Better than a chap who lives with his mum tho eh? Yes but you can save money living with your mum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Yes but you can save money living with your mum. Thats if he has any money in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 1.4 billion dollars??? My fear was he only had a couple of millions to his name. So I will ask the questions Why Saints? Why invest in a football club when you clearly don't need anymore cash. Ps I will be happy when it's done :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Well he is not even a £ billionaire is he depending on the exchange rate Er...yes - until the exchange rate has a minus sign in front of it!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Why invest in a football club when you clearly don't need anymore cash. Exsqueeze me?? Ask Mike Ashley, I'm sure he will be able to offer some words of wisdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I think this is him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I think this is him Steve Pemberton?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 So why is he f**kin around worrying about the odd million or two ? I doubt this has anything to do with money if its him... more like legal issues.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 So why is he f**kin around worrying about the odd million or two ? He didnt make his fortune by not worrying about the odd million or two... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 More importantly what relation is he to Christina Liebherr? And will we see her and her horse at St Mary's very often ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I would ride Christina like seabiscuit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 1.4 billion dollars??? My fear was he only had a couple of millions to his name. So I will ask the questions Why Saints? Why invest in a football club when you clearly don't need anymore cash. Ps I will be happy when it's done :-) Because it's a fantastic investment. This is a club with premier league facilities and support levels that due to be run by a procession of a**holes is currently languishing in div 1. With a modest outlay and a bit of TLC there's no reason why we can't get back to the premier league and be sold for a tidy profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeleye Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Don't want to stir up any homophobia here but literally translated Liebherr means "love man". On reflection it could have various other connotations - love my fellow man, enough to save a football club for them, or Like, love, man - the hippie turn of phrase about free love - of course if and when the takeover goes through, Herr Liebherr will be a very well loved man by all Saints fans - a football loving, mega rich philanthropist - ticks all the right boxes for me - think I could be turned - wonder if he's available! :smt008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Don't want to stir up any homophobia here but literally translated Liebherr means "love man". I think that would be Liebmann. Liebherr seems more Like Mr. Love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeleye Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I think that would be Liebmann. Liebherr seems more Like Mr. Love Could be but when an audience is addressed in German they say "Meine Damen und Herren" - ladies and gentlemen to us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I think that would be Liebmann. Liebherr seems more Like Mr. Love I don't care what he does in his private life and long as he'll show us the colour of his EUROS - and soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceandfriendly Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Don't want to stir up any homophobia here but literally translated Liebherr means "love man". On reflection it could have various other connotations - love my fellow man, enough to save a football club for them, or Like, love, man - the hippie turn of phrase about free love - of course if and when the takeover goes through, Herr Liebherr will be a very well loved man by all Saints fans - a football loving, mega rich philanthropist - ticks all the right boxes for me - think I could be turned - wonder if he's available! :smt008 Almost! Love is "Liebe" in German, so we're missing an 'e' and Herr means "Mr" so if anything it translates to "Lov Mr" Sorry to be pedantic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Babelfish makes Liebherr 'Dear gentlemen' - but personally I think it's a surname, similar to the English 'Loveman'. (certainly nothing to do with sexuality). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 More importantly what relation is he to Christina Liebherr? And will we see her and her horse at St Mary's very often ? Just seen a small pic of her and her horse. Couldn't enlarge it, but have to say she has a look of Sally Taylor (BBC South Today). Nothing wrong with that of course, just putting it out there. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Does this help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Here is one in the training kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steeleye Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Almost! Love is "Liebe" in German, so we're missing an 'e' and Herr means "Mr" so if anything it translates to "Lov Mr" Sorry to be pedantic. Only trying to bring a little humour to proceedings - you need to lighten up a bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 She'll do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I don't care what he does in his private life and long as he'll show us the colour of his EUROS - and soon. If we have to wait for Switzerland to join the EU and the euro before the takeover goes through, we will all be F5ing for years to come... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I would ride Christina like seabiscuit Just seen a small pic of her and her horse. Couldn't enlarge it, but have to say she has a look of Sally Taylor (BBC South Today). Nothing wrong with that of course, just putting it out there. :-) Does this help? Here is one in the training kit She'll do. I am sure that I speak for all Saints fans (with common sense) that this sort of behaviour and posting should result in immediate bans. What if Markus were to see this board and he was related to her in some way? He would almost certainly pull out of the deal, as would any right minded individual. Come on guys, let's not ruin this deal by smutty comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 (edited) I think this is him OK, the next step is .. ..everyone with a Barclays account can move their money over to a numbered bank account in Switzerland. THEN: Everyone go out and buy a cuckoo clock. Buy some of that ridiculous Swiss cheese with the holes in it. Get your own personal Swiss flag (Red and white of course.) Book your next ski holiday in Gstaad.... Practise yodelling " When the Saints go Marching in ..." and finally : everyone listen to, and get sexed up on the Overture to William Tell. (OK I know Rossini was Italian), but Tell was a Swiss hero...so is this guy. Edited 7 July, 2009 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Much as I think the whole "fnarr, horsie fit bird" thing is a bit 14-year old virgin, and I can see your point about it not being the kind of thing someone would like to see of their sister, I think bans are a bit OTT (at least while she's got her clothes on in posed pictures) and I'm really hoping the bid's not so tenous that anything posted on this board would make the blindest bit of difference. Having said that, can't blame us for paranoia at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red&white56 Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I don't care what he does in his private life and long as he'll show us the colour of his EUROS - and soon. If he's Swiss then it will be Swiss Francs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Down and Out Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Does this help? Without wishing to be picky and fussy in my old age...she does have an acne problem!!! LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintgert Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Because it's a fantastic investment. This is a club with premier league facilities and support levels that due to be run by a procession of a**holes is currently languishing in div 1. With a modest outlay and a bit of TLC there's no reason why we can't get back to the premier league and be sold for a tidy profit. Spot on. With a relatively small investment (say £10m a season over 2 season) in management and players he could have a club he could sell for £50m+ in 2-3 years time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Lady Godiva springs to mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I am sure that I speak for all Saints fans (with common sense) that this sort of behaviour and posting should result in immediate bans. What if Markus were to see this board and he was related to her in some way? He would almost certainly pull out of the deal, as would any right minded individual. Come on guys, let's not ruin this deal by smutty comments. I am overcome with contrition. I have given myself a smack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Without wishing to be picky and fussy in my old age...she does have an acne problem!!! LOL Too much chocolate. :smt039 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcowzer Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Does this help? Bit of acne round the chin. Nothing a coat of paint won't hide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 If he's Swiss then it will be Swiss Francs! of course it is, but I'm sure the deal will be in some other Euro currency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 So Markus Liebherr it is then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 Owns his own group of Companies Mali Group http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southampton/8136389.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dog Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 In the early 1970s, Hans Liebherr moved his residence from Germany to Switzerland in order to avoid the hefty German inheritance tax. Then Hans Liebherr transferred stock ownership in his enterprise to his children. The company was split in two parts: a German holding company for all business activities in Germany and another holding company based in Switzerland for all the other subsidiaries. Hans, Jr., Markus, and Hubert Liebherr received equal shares in the German holding company. Willi and Isolde Liebherr were co-owners of the Swiss holding company. However, despite the transfer of ownership, Hans Liebherr remained in control of his enterprise through a power of attorney with each of his children. In 1983, the company's headquarters were moved to Switzerland after the establishment of the new Swiss-based management holding company Liebherr-International AG. After Hans Liebherr's daughter and four sons had finished their education in their late 20s and early 30s, they all started working as full-time executives at their father's business. The company founder's oldest son, Hans, Jr., studied engineering and economics. Willi Liebherr became a mechanical engineer, while his younger brother Markus studied engineering with an agricultural focus. Hubert, the youngest of the Liebherr brothers, became a construction engineer, and their sister Isolde studied business administration. Hubert Liebherr managed an excavator plant in Algeria, Isolde was responsible for the hotels, and the other Liebherr siblings had management positions in production or marketing. However, around 1990, Hubert Liebherr gave his share in the family business back to his father. Second Liebherr Generation Takes Over in 1990 When company founder Hans Liebherr died in 1993, at age 78, his industrial enterprise generated roughly $2.5 billion in sales annually. Now it was time for the second Liebherr generation to take over management of the family enterprise. Hans, Jr. took over responsibility for the crane and concrete mixing business, Willi for earth moving equipment, and Isolde for the refrigerator production and hotels. Markus Liebherr, however, had changed his life plans and gave most of his shares in the company back to his brothers and sister. Hans, Jr., Willi, and Isolde met every other week to discuss the basic decisions concerning investment, product development, and finances. He's skint!!! He gave it all away. :'( :smt073 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 English version of his company website http://www.mali-motanag.ch/?English_version:About_us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 I am sure that I speak for all Saints fans (with common sense) that this sort of behaviour and posting should result in immediate bans. What if Markus were to see this board and he was related to her in some way? He would almost certainly pull out of the deal, as would any right minded individual. Come on guys, let's not ruin this deal by smutty comments. She'll do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 7 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 July, 2009 In the early 1970s, Hans Liebherr moved his residence from Germany to Switzerland in order to avoid the hefty German inheritance tax. Then Hans Liebherr transferred stock ownership in his enterprise to his children. The company was split in two parts: a German holding company for all business activities in Germany and another holding company based in Switzerland for all the other subsidiaries. Hans, Jr., Markus, and Hubert Liebherr received equal shares in the German holding company. Willi and Isolde Liebherr were co-owners of the Swiss holding company. However, despite the transfer of ownership, Hans Liebherr remained in control of his enterprise through a power of attorney with each of his children. In 1983, the company's headquarters were moved to Switzerland after the establishment of the new Swiss-based management holding company Liebherr-International AG. After Hans Liebherr's daughter and four sons had finished their education in their late 20s and early 30s, they all started working as full-time executives at their father's business. The company founder's oldest son, Hans, Jr., studied engineering and economics. Willi Liebherr became a mechanical engineer, while his younger brother Markus studied engineering with an agricultural focus. Hubert, the youngest of the Liebherr brothers, became a construction engineer, and their sister Isolde studied business administration. Hubert Liebherr managed an excavator plant in Algeria, Isolde was responsible for the hotels, and the other Liebherr siblings had management positions in production or marketing. However, around 1990, Hubert Liebherr gave his share in the family business back to his father. Second Liebherr Generation Takes Over in 1990 When company founder Hans Liebherr died in 1993, at age 78, his industrial enterprise generated roughly $2.5 billion in sales annually. Now it was time for the second Liebherr generation to take over management of the family enterprise. Hans, Jr. took over responsibility for the crane and concrete mixing business, Willi for earth moving equipment, and Isolde for the refrigerator production and hotels. Markus Liebherr, however, had changed his life plans and gave most of his shares in the company back to his brothers and sister. Hans, Jr., Willi, and Isolde met every other week to discuss the basic decisions concerning investment, product development, and finances. He's skint!!! He gave it all away. :'( :smt073He's no way skint($1.4 billion)that will do nicely, i'd take his money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint137 Posted 7 July, 2009 Share Posted 7 July, 2009 http://translate.google.co.uk/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mali-motanag.ch%2F&sl=de&tl=en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 Cool logo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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