Pilchards Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 First time I've seen him and he looks nippy, shame he missed they sitter but I fancy him to be our star of the season. Anyone see the ghost he saw 2nd half? He won the ball and had a breakaway against two Heart players, He looked up and curled the ball forty yards like he was looking at a ghost and only when the ball rolled out he puts his hands up to say sorry, sorry to who as nobody was within 50 yards of him. strange one that! Also I enjoyed Davis waving to the chapel at the start of the game, superstitious or another ghost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Has he signed his contract yet? Don't see what's holding it up, as it was drawn up a while ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Most impressed today, I thought he was possibly our best player - looks like our new Drew Surman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 First time I've seen him and he looks nippy, shame he missed they sitter but I fancy him to be our star of the season. Anyone see the ghost he saw 2nd half? He won the ball and had a breakaway against two Heart players, He looked up and curled the ball forty yards like he was looking at a ghost and only when the ball rolled out he puts his hands up to say sorry, sorry to who as nobody was within 50 yards of him. strange one that! Also I enjoyed Davis waving to the chapel at the start of the game, superstitious or another ghost? who you on about?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 First time I've seen him and he looks nippy, shame he missed they sitter but I fancy him to be our star of the season. Anyone see the ghost he saw 2nd half? He won the ball and had a breakaway against two Heart players, He looked up and curled the ball forty yards like he was looking at a ghost and only when the ball rolled out he puts his hands up to say sorry, sorry to who as nobody was within 50 yards of him. strange one that! Also I enjoyed Davis waving to the chapel at the start of the game, superstitious or another ghost? Mills was for sure our poorest player playing far too centre of pitch giving us no width and compressing the play on the right side crowding out Lallana. We scored two quick goals remember as soon as Gobern came on for him and we had width and room for Lallana and Murty to operate down the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Mills was for sure our poorest player. With all due respect that is a ridiculous statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 (edited) Think Holmes is first choice on the left TBH. Agree about the width, especially since Lallana has had tendency to go narrow on the right. We need one natural wide player, at least. Edited 25 July, 2009 by shurlock left and right mixed up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Think Holmes is first choice on the right TBH. Are you sure, I know we have had a habit of playing left siders on the right and vice versa but I'm sure Holmes is a left winger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Think Holmes is first choice on the right TBH. Agree about the width, especially since Lallana has had tendency to go narrow on the left. We need one natural wide player, at least. Are you sure? I can't think of anything worse to be honnest. Holmes is a decent enough player (when all the Kings horses and all the king men put him back together) but a left footed player with no pace on the right? It never works. Burley tried Surman and Skacel on the right. Both better wingers than Holmes, but neither had any impact. Then who could forget Hammill, Euell and Wright playing on the left... *shudder* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Mills was for sure our poorest player playing far too centre of pitch giving us no width and compressing the play on the right side crowding out Lallana. We scored two quick goals remember as soon as Gobern came on for him and we had width and room for Lallana and Murty to operate down the right. Fwiw I thought mills played bloody well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Mabes Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Mills our poorest player!!!??!??? That is the stupidest statement i've ever heard. He was MOTM for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Most impressed today, I thought he was possibly our best player - looks like our new Drew Surman Hope Fish does better than Drew has last 2 seasons he lost his way a bit after his hattrick against barnsley in play off season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 I wouldn't go so far as to say MOM but he had a tidy game, gave balance down the left and worked hard with enthusiasm. He looks as though he could make a good left side with Harding and also cover him in case of injury. The right side is more problematical, Murty looks a certainty for right back but the wide right position needs looking at. Lallana is a bit of an enigma and I think has work to do on his awareness and positional play to nail down the position. It could be an in and out season for him unless he steps up his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 "Pardew withdrew his side's most influential player, Mills, shortly after the hour" .... was how the Evening News in Edenburgh saw it.. http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/Southampton-3--0-Hearts.5493761.jp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Mabes Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Yeah I agree. Left looks pretty sorted especially if Holmes gets back in the mix. Lallana no doubt has quality but I don't think right is where he should be. Apart from Thompson (who i'm not convinced should be a starter), who exactly do we have? Lloyd James people say is better in the centre. Which brings another question to mind - why was he left out and would you even play him?? Your opinions would be welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 I wouldn't go so far as to say MOM but he had a tidy game, gave balance down the left and worked hard with enthusiasm. He looks as though he could make a good left side with Harding and also cover him in case of injury. The right side is more problematical, Murty looks a certainty for right back but the wide right position needs looking at. Lallana is a bit of an enigma and I think has work to do on his awareness and positional play to nail down the position. It could be an in and out season for him unless he steps up his game. Lallana poses the same problem as there was with MLT (AL is no MLT, I hasten to add, at least not yet). Alan Ball is the only one who got it right by playing Matty in the middle, behind the strikers, and tell the rest to give him the ball. But that was when Matty was a mature player. Lallana isn't yet. You will have to sacrifice something if you play AL, but watching the game today I accepted that. If we want an out and out rightwinger, why not acquire one. With AL you get something different, so let's not try to make him into what he isn't. The alternative is to play a 4-3-1-2 formation which probably will sacrifice width and antagonise people. I don't think he is ready for that responsibility yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 (edited) Are you sure, I know we have had a habit of playing left siders on the right and vice versa but I'm sure Holmes is a left winger Are you sure? I can't think of anything worse to be honnest. Sorry my c*ck up. I meant Holmes on the left is still my first choice over Mills and Lallana on the right (who doesnt have natural width). Left midfield has been a problem ever since the one-man-show that was gareth bale left. We've made things worse by wasting the likes of Skacel as LB and playing strikers -BWP etc- as wingers. Surman's departure has only added to the problem. With Holmes injured more often than he's fit and McLaggon and Gobern still learning the ropes, its a position that could be looked at. Hopefully, Mills will do a job, though some natural, scary pace wouldn't go amiss (given there's not much of it elsewhere in the team). Edited 25 July, 2009 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Think Holmes is first choice on the left TBH. Agree about the width, especially since Lallana has had tendency to go narrow on the right. We need one natural wide player, at least. With the rich new owner and a manager with a top 2 position in his sights I will be very very dissapointed if we don't buy a better player than Holmes to play on the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 25 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 25 July, 2009 "Pardew withdrew his side's most influential player, Mills, shortly after the hour" .... was how the Evening News in Edenburgh saw it.. http://edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/Southampton-3--0-Hearts.5493761.jp He took him off because he felt the whack he got 1st half, He constantly kept feeling his ankle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 a manager with a top 2 position in his sights. This is a myth that needs nipping in the bud! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Has he signed his contract yet? Don't see what's holding it up, as it was drawn up a while ago. I asked the same question last week, and nobody seemed to know the answer then either. I think he must have the new contract for the following reasons: When Murty, Stern, etc, could not play in earlier friendlies (alledgedly because of insurance reasons as they were not signed up at Saints) Fish was playing. Fish has been given a squad number. Stern, who has yet to sign his contract was not given one (neither was Murty, obviously). So I am sure he has signed but we just haven't been told about it for some strange reason. I have another question though: What numbers did Stern and Murty wear today? (I would guess Stern was 14?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Mills, Harding and Holmes have the left side pretty much sorted. Certainly Mills and Harding were solid and not without invention today and it's not an area I'd be much concerned about this season. As long as we have two of those three fit then we should be OK. Right side is more of a problem. I think Murty may have done enough today to get the RB slot. He still looks fat and unfit but his cross for our goal was great. We've missed that quality. Maybe James can fill in in front of him and defensively that would be OK - I'd wonder if it had enough creativity though. Still leaves where to fit in Lallana though. He's definitely quality and especially in this league. He can create chances and deserves to be in the mix but frankly at the moment I'd take a good team performance over his sporadic glimpses of talent. As he progresses we may need to accommodate him but he's not there yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 I asked the same question last week, and nobody seemed to know the answer then either. I think he must have the new contract for the following reasons: When Murty, Stern, etc, could not play in earlier friendlies (alledgedly because of insurance reasons as they were not signed up at Saints) Fish was playing. Fish has been given a squad number. Stern, who has yet to sign his contract was not given one (neither was Murty, obviously). So I am sure he has signed but we just haven't been told about it for some strange reason. I have another question though: What numbers did Stern and Murty wear today? (I would guess Stern was 14?) Murty was Number 2 I think? As a friendly though I don't think the squad numbers were used? To be honest I only used the numbers when referring to the hearts players - incidentally their numbers 9, 10 and 7 all looked quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 I wouldn't go so far as to say MOM but he had a tidy game, gave balance down the left and worked hard with enthusiasm. He looks as though he could make a good left side with Harding Spot on. I thought they had that side of the pitch covered nicely between them. I thought he had a good game today, as did Harding, Murty and Gillet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 I have always thought Fish had something about him. His loan spell last season seems to have done him the world of good. With one more game to be played I will be interested to see the team picked for next season. If it is something like today I will be hoping for a similar performance. AP seems to be having a good effect on the players and long may that continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boy done well Posted 25 July, 2009 Share Posted 25 July, 2009 Amazing how odd some people see things. Mills was outstanding and stuck to the left wing, linking up well with Harding and showing good ability to run at people. Hope we can keep that left side partnership going. Watching Mills today I thought he'd progressed hugely in the last 12 months. Definitely one for the future as long as he's blooded in carefully. Thought Murty was excellent and Lallana obviously thrives off space and a bit of confidence. Rasiak was class when he came on but it was Mills who caught my eye if only because he seems to have come on so much. Don't understand the fuss about Holmes who is at best average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthieu Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I'd put Mills at left-mid ahead of Holmes. He has far more pace, better stamina, better at defending and less injury prone than Holmes. And from what i've seen of both players, has more ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheels Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I'm sorry to bring bad news but expect Mills to be off this week to Wolves. (source: A Saints Player) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Watching Mills today I thought he'd progressed hugely in the last 12 months. Definitely one for the future as long as he's blooded in carefully. Thought Murty was excellent and Lallana obviously thrives off space and a bit of confidence. Rasiak was class when he came on but it was Mills who caught my eye if only because he seems to have come on so much. Don't understand the fuss about Holmes who is at best average. Absolutely right about Mills. I saw him in a pre-season friendly at Exeter, 2 years ago and whilst he played well, he looked like a little boy. He has certainly come on in the 3 games I have seen this season and obviously the loan at S****horpe has done him a lot of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzmeister Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Was just reading the right up on the Edinburgh site - their player Suso sounds good. Is he a right midfielder and if so could it be someone we could look at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Was just reading the right up on the Edinburgh site - their player Suso sounds good. Is he a right midfielder and if so could it be someone we could look at? doubt he would leave Hearts for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I'm sorry to bring bad news but expect Mills to be off this week to Wolves. (source: A Saints Player) lets hope its for good wonga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 lets hope its for good wonga He's out of contract with us still, so it'll be for nout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheels Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 lets hope its for good wonga £750k apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 £750k apparently Is this because he wants to go cos AP said nobody had to leave now unless they didnt want to play for SFC ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I must say, if he does move, to be frank - he's a pillock. I very much doubt he'll play for wolves, he's no where near ready for the prem yet. Money calling again if it's true i guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wheels Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Is this because he wants to go cos AP said nobody had to leave now unless they didnt want to play for SFC ? I don't know the answer to that I'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I must say, if he does move, to be frank - he's a pillock. I very much doubt he'll play for wolves, he's no where near ready for the prem yet. Money calling again if it's true i guess. Well thats right. IF this is true I wonder what McCarthy is basing this signing on ? He has played a handfull of games for us and a few for S****horpe or Scarboro or whoever it was ( )......hardly good grounding for the premiership ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Well thats right. IF this is true I wonder what McCarthy is basing this signing on ? He has played a handfull of games for us and a few for S****horpe or Scarboro or whoever it was ( )......hardly good grounding for the premiership ! McCarthy seems to like buying 'Potential' though, Kightly is a good example. I still hold the opinion that Mills will not get a game though. Not sure how we get 700k if he's out of contract though? Unless Wolves have agreed to pay us up in front to stop it going to a tribunal. I hope this isn't true, but again we can blame Pinnacle for this - he should have signed his contract weeks ago. Morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I'd be surprised and a tad disappointed if Mills joined Wolves. He's only played a handful of games for us and I can't see him getting anywhere near their first-team should he leave. I'm of the opinion that he'd be better off signing a new deal with us, playing regularly and improving his all round game in the lower leagues. I just can't see the point in going to a Premiership team to sit in the Reserves. Not sure how we'd be able to get 750K either, unless Wolves have agreed to pay that amount to avoid the hassle of going to a tribunal. I'm under the impression that we'd be due compensation for the players development as Mills has come through our Academy. Anyone know otherwise? Anyway, I'm hoping that this is just a rumour, as I think Mills could be a very useful player for us this season. It would be a shame if he left, but if he does go then so be it. I think he may end up regretting it in a few years time should he leave though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Not sure how we get 700k if he's out of contract though? Unless Wolves have agreed to pay us up in front to stop it going to a tribunal. you answered your own question there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I hope this isn't true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 If there is just one dot of truth in this rumour, which I sincerely doubt, I think Fish should have a chat with his brother Matt about the shortcomings of leaving Saints for life as a reserve in the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Division South Days Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 I'm sorry to bring bad news but expect Mills to be off this week to Wolves. (source: A Saints Player) If thats the case why was he in the starting eleven today? AP is working towards the team to put out against Millwall and would not have started with a player leaving in a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Hasn't AP said that none of our young players are leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 Hasn't AP said that none of our young players are leaving? Yep - blocks on all exit roads, stations and airports! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 If thats the case why was he in the starting eleven today? AP is working towards the team to put out against Millwall and would not have started with a player leaving in a few days To pursuade him that his immediate future is with Saints, and I would hope it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsforlife7 Posted 26 July, 2009 Share Posted 26 July, 2009 His facebook status says:Number 18! Seems he's rather happy about it to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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