NickG Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 (edited) 7.30 pm interesting programme about football finance http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pxvt3 possibly not saints related but thought many on here would be interested and it would get missed in lounge. Edited 11 January, 2010 by NickG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rory Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 7.30pm surely? 7pm is "Ooooonnnnneee do-do-do-do-do ooooonnnnneeee do-do-do-do-do ooooonnnnneeee." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 January, 2010 also about tucktonia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Think its about that lot down the road - so its a sit com! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowers-sfc Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 they were going to do this when our duck hunting chairman was still in charge.... they were going to send a reporter to the protest and stuff, it was going tobe about clubs along h suth coast, bournemouth, southampton, portsmouth was starting with there troubles. oh well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Third Division South Days Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 If it's anything like Panorama's attempt to look at football finance a while back I think it's going to be a very bland program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedg Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 If it's anything like Panorama's attempt to look at football finance a while back I think it's going to be a very bland program. At least if pompey want to try and stop it being broadcast they will not have to spend extra to get an expensive lawyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 January, 2010 "charting the demise of Portsmouth football club" - mouth watering advert for it on tv. I'll be watching! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 "charting the demise of Portsmouth football club" - mouth watering advert for it on tv. I'll be watching! So will I - I like a good sit com! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 It's definitely featuring Pompey quite heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 I was more excited about Tucktonia. Tuckton! haha. Blast from the past. The theme park what once the pride of Christchurch. Takes me back. Used to get soooo excited passing it when ickle kids but unsure if we ever actually went in there. Bet health and safety wasn't like it is now (like that kid losing his ear on the rapids at Thorpe Park!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 "One of the oldest football teams" a claim made by the presenter at the beginning. Really? 1898 is not that old compared to a large number of clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 'There must have been 200,000 people there. That's pompey right there'. That's right, shows you're just a bunch of glory hunters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 'There must have been 200,000 people there. That's pompey right there'. And only 17,000 turn on a match-day with 3,000 empty seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Mark Jacob not being able to give any answers that would help. lol at Al Faraj's brother not knowing the offside rule until coming to games this season. And the 40 million into the club is only loans. - Direct from Jacob's mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkySaint Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Best thing i've ever watched on tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Confident that they won't be in administration or near it says Jacobs - can't say it would have filled me with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alright Dave Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 That Jacobs looks as dodgy as he sounds and half those pompey fans could barely string a sentence together. All people associated with Pompey in that program whether it be the fans or Jacobs were a total mass of contradictions!!! Lol Jacobs "Al Faraj has brought in 40 million since he took over " Interviewer "Yes, but that is including loans and gates receipts doesn't it?" Jacobs "oh yes of course" Brilliant comedy gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Mark Jacob not being able to give any answers that would help. lol at Al Faraj's brother not knowing the offside rule until coming to games this season. And the 40 million into the club is only loans. - Direct from Jacob's mouth. It was loans, gate receipts, sponsorship etc. Not new funding. They're a basket case. No financial organisation is going to lend to them, so they're stuck in their nefarious world of black market deals until the balloon goes up. Sadly for them, administration will not be a way out, as Chenrai - a property developer holds the mortgage over FP. They could always Ground Share with Brighton I guess - a delicious irony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fowllyd Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Mark Jacob not being able to give any answers that would help. lol at Al Faraj's brother not knowing the offside rule until coming to games this season. And the 40 million into the club is only loans. - Direct from Jacob's mouth. Yep, the only new(ish) piece of information - loans and expected income, such as gate receipts, account for all the 'new' money that's come into Pompey since October. So most of it puts them further into debt, the rest they'd have got anyway. Priceless. Has anybody actually asked Jacob why it is that Pompey's super-rich owner hasn't yet seen fit to put a penny of his own money into the club? Or whether he ever will? Not that they'd get much of an answer, but what the hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SparkySaint Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 I really feel sorry for them. It must be very difficult to see this happen to their club.... Oh dear I don't know what happened to me then. Watching them burn has and will be very entertaining. Funny that they didn't mention us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 And the 40 million into the club is only loans. - Direct from Jacob's mouth. He didn't say that at all! It is £40m of money coming into the club since the takeover. Yes, that includes loans but is also gate money, merchandise etc etc Basically all income since the takeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 He didn't say that at all! It is £40m of money coming into the club since the takeover. Yes, that includes loans but is also gate money, merchandise etc etc Basically all income since the takeover. Which only serves to make it funnier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 I felt sorry for the ordinary fans. The old boys who've supported the club since long before the rivalry really took off. They must wonder what the hell is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 The way he described it it was meant to sound a good thing that the owners were putting money into the club. Jacob was happy to let it sound like that. Then when the interviewer probed him further Jacob revealed that it was just £40m of loans(more debt) and other income from ticket, shop sales etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 7.30 pm interesting programme about football finance http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00pxvt3 possibly not saints related but thought many on here would be interested and it would get missed in lounge. It could have gone in General Sports or The Arts. It wouldn't be missed if people went and looked, rather than not bothering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 "One of the oldest football teams" a claim made by the presenter at the beginning. Really? 1898 is not that old compared to a large number of clubs. Pretty sure that makes them one of the newest. Last in, first out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Paying out 55 million in wages on 20,000 gates hardly adds up does it. They probably paid more for winning the-FA Cup than any team in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Paying out 55 million in wages on 20,000 gates hardly adds up does it. They probably paid more for winning the-FA Cup than any team in history. No they didn't pay more for winning the FA Cup. They promised to pay more but never came up with the cash. Ask Sol about his win bonus for the FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stockportsaint Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Available soon on the iPlayer for anyone who missed it (UK Users only I'm afraid): http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00pxvt3/Inside_Out_South_11_01_2010/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Tamesaint they won the- FA Cup, whilst they were paying astronomical wages, where did I say anything about bonuses for the cup. The programme put the question to fans -Did they buy the cup, draw your own conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Tamesaint they won the- FA Cup, whilst they were paying astronomical wages, where did I say anything about bonuses for the cup. The programme put the question to fans -Did they buy the cup, draw your own conclusions. I don't disagree with you. My point was that they do not even seem to have paid some of their contractual obligations to their players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 Tamesaint they won the- FA Cup, whilst they were paying astronomical wages, where did I say anything about bonuses for the cup. The programme put the question to fans -Did they buy the cup, draw your own conclusions.Majeski you could tell so wanted to say they bought their success and they should gear the consequences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smackalec Posted 11 January, 2010 Share Posted 11 January, 2010 makes me think of the last trip round the monopoly board, when everything is mortgaged and the best thing that can happen is that you end up in jail. inevitably though it always ends the same way, GAME OVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 January, 2010 Author Share Posted 11 January, 2010 It could have gone in General Sports or The Arts. It wouldn't be missed if people went and looked, rather than not bothering. it was of interest to saints fans due to the rivalry - think many just look in here and could have missed programme. Only trying to be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadia Sllim Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Did they mention HR at anytime? Now he must take some blame or does he have the media sewen up like the press? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 'There must have been 200,000 people there. That's pompey right there'. That's right, shows you're just a bunch of glory hunters. Amusingly he actually said something like "I've never seen anything like it" as well. If you've never seen anything like it before, it can hardly be a defining characteristic of what it's always like, can it ? It was a pretty dull piece of reporting - plus I had to avert my eyes for about 5 minutes at the start, I still haven't seen more than a second of that open topped bus parade and I don't plan on doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 I felt sorry for the ordinary fans. The old boys who've supported the club since long before the rivalry really took off. They must wonder what the hell is going on. You mean the ones who used to support Saints on alternate weekends as well ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 makes me think of the last trip round the monopoly board, when everything is mortgaged and the best thing that can happen is that you end up in jail. inevitably though it always ends the same way, GAME OVER. Ha ha ha - brilliant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Naive Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Didn't see the programme, but don't think we should be gloating too much. It was only five minutes ago that we were in deep s**t. I never thought I'd say this but I DO feel sorry for Pompey fans, because I know how they feel, except their situation looks even more dire than ours was. And you can't have a rivalry with only one team in existence – can you honestly say that you'd rather see them disappear than go to Fratton and stuff them in the Championship, whether it's next season or the one after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Didn't see the programme, but don't think we should be gloating too much. It was only five minutes ago that we were in deep s**t. I never thought I'd say this but I DO feel sorry for Pompey fans, because I know how they feel, except their situation looks even more dire than ours was. And you can't have a rivalry with only one team in existence – can you honestly say that you'd rather see them disappear than go to Fratton and stuff them in the Championship, whether it's next season or the one after? I don't feel sorry for them at all. The old guy in the pub said he wouldn't change the FA Cup win for anything. Therefore fully supported the spending on that team that got them in the sh!t they are in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 Didn't see the programme, but don't think we should be gloating too much. It was only five minutes ago that we were in deep s**t. I never thought I'd say this but I DO feel sorry for Pompey fans, because I know how they feel, except their situation looks even more dire than ours was. And you can't have a rivalry with only one team in existence – can you honestly say that you'd rather see them disappear than go to Fratton and stuff them in the Championship, whether it's next season or the one after? I'm not expecting to still be in League 1 the season after next, so we won't be playing them then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 I don't feel sorry for them at all. The old guy in the pub said he wouldn't change the FA Cup win for anything. Therefore fully supported the spending on that team that got them in the sh!t they are in now. Was quite funny hearing him say he wouldn't trade 'all the money in the world' for the FA Cup. Especially considering that it seems his beloved club attempted to do just that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 makes me think of the last trip round the monopoly board, when everything is mortgaged and the best thing that can happen is that you end up in jail. inevitably though it always ends the same way, GAME OVER. Made me laugh - seriously funny I know it well as I am crap at Monopoly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 It was loans, gate receipts, sponsorship etc. Not new funding. They're a basket case. No financial organisation is going to lend to them, so they're stuck in their nefarious world of black market deals until the balloon goes up. Sadly for them, administration will not be a way out, as Chenrai - a property developer holds the mortgage over FP. They could always Ground Share with Brighton I guess - a delicious irony. Surely Storrie spoke about all this on Solent a while back. He explained that each new owner pumps in cash which just goes to pay the previous owner's director loans.What El Faraj put in went to the last bloke, his money went to Gaydamak and so on.The new money just replaces the old with the bait of the Premiership windfall hooking them every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 makes me think of the last trip round the monopoly board, when everything is mortgaged and the best thing that can happen is that you end up in jail. inevitably though it always ends the same way, GAME OVER. love that idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 ...Amusingly he actually said something like "I've never seen anything like it" as well. If you've never seen anything like it before, it can hardly be a defining characteristic of what it's always like, can it ?... Yeah, funnily enough I thought the same thing, only it sounded more like..."O'ive neverrr seen anything loike it before in moi loife..." I was just waiting for his wife to pop up with..."noice piece of heather moi dear?" What happened to the mockney accent I thought I'd switched over to some footie thing about Brizzol city... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dynamo Naive Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 I'm not expecting to still be in League 1 the season after next, so we won't be playing them then. Nor am I. That's why I said the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 12 January, 2010 Share Posted 12 January, 2010 TBH if you've been following Solent, you wouldn't have heard anything new. 'Tis very interesting that it is always mentioned of the 'fantastic' support they have - ahem.....can't fill the stadium you already have????? TBH I think Inside Out missed an easy comparison to Saints there when it was mentioned about PFC needing a 'big investor' - surely journalistic endeavour would point to us as being a much more enticing opportunity? Bit confused as to why Madejski was involved though? He had more airtime than the guy from PFC. Mind you, Jacob hasn't even met Al Faraj apparently.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 13 January, 2010 Share Posted 13 January, 2010 Surely Storrie spoke about all this on Solent a while back. He explained that each new owner pumps in cash which just goes to pay the previous owner's director loans.What El Faraj put in went to the last bloke, his money went to Gaydamak and so on.The new money just replaces the old with the bait of the Premiership windfall hooking them every time. That sounds like a pyramid scheme almost. Relegation would bring about a Madoff-style collapse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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