alpine_saint Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 What is wrong with him, and why have we bought Barnard ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 was thinking the same thing myself at the game yesterday, though Connolly might have been on the bench. He hasn't played for a month now depsite being rated at 50/50 for Millwall a few weeks ago. Cant help but think his groin problem is more serious than the club are letting on. Hope i am wrong as has been class when he has played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 29th OS David Connolly is also getting closer to a return from his groin injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 What is wrong with him, and why have we bought Barnard ? David Connolly is also getting closer to a return from his groin injury. Possibly because we have no out and out Strikers in the event of injuries now that Saga and Paterson have gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 Barnard is 7 years younger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 29th OS David Connolly is also getting closer to a return from his groin injury. wasn't it a groin injury which kept him out for 18 months? Hope its not related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 maybe we are saving him for the FA Cup game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 No, the world is ending. Hope you manage to survive it high up in the Austrian mountains Alpine, the new world order will need someone to stir things up once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modern matron Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 What is wrong with him, and why have we bought Barnard ? Seems pretty obvious that Barnard has been bought becaase of DC's injury problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 would be good to see him against the skates, we have brought barnard for another option and injury cover obviously??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 would be good to see him against the skates, we have brought barnard for another option and injury cover obviously??? Barnard has started the last three games has he not perhaps he was bought to score goals something he did regularly for Southend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 Connelly will score against the skates, just like Pahars did in 2003. This is a well known fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 Barnard is 7 years younger Slight difference in class though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 Slight difference in class though Yes but fully fit Connolly would probably not be playing for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RinNY Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 What is wrong with him, and why have we bought Barnard ? Connolly has suffered from serious injury/fitness problems the past couple of years, and though his undoubted class makes him worth having around when he can play, he certainly can't be relied on to give you a full 90 minutes game after game. In fact, his best role is probably as a super-sub, and occasional starter in particularly important games when fit. Meanwhile, we rely very heavily on Lambert, and if he were to get injured, we'd need another main striker. And all of that tells you why we've signed Barnard, a guy who has shown his worthn as Sounthend's main striker the past season or two. I should have thought all that was self-evident. Why are you raising this question? Have you been out of touch? Aren't you the guy who has constantly bemoaned our lack of adequate cover at various positions (e.g. CB) over the past few seasons? So why would you now be (apparently) critiquing the provision of adequate cover at striker by raising this question??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 When will we share precious moments? Is this the beginning or is it the end? David when will we see you again? On the degree of severity scale how bad is your injury? Three? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint-luco Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 Connelly will score against the skates, just like Pahars did in 2003. This is a well known fact. just a bit further out though, 30 yards. it is writen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 just a bit further out though, 30 yards. it is writen I cant wait! :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 wasn't it a groin injury which kept him out for 18 months? Hope its not related. hes probably still got the same groin tbf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 What is wrong with him, and why have we bought Barnard ? He's injured and we need a striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 Barnard is 7 years younger Slight difference in class though true but the question was why sign Barnard - over next few years Barnard is more likely to perform for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 What is wrong with him, and why have we bought Barnard ? As you well know Alpine, Saints are featuring in 3 competitions and require strength in depth if they are going to achieve what they require in 5 seasons. Also, there will be various changes in players, because many will not make the entire journey up the leagues. Connolly, as has been reported on here in several threads, is out of form, according to Alan Pardew, and therefore has not been picked of late. I don't see it as being the last we'll ever see of him though. I'm sure he'll be back, and I'm sure you think so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 31 January, 2010 Share Posted 31 January, 2010 I hear Connolly is a really big Ultravox fan and once applied to go on Stars In Their Eyes as Midge Ure's moustache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 I get the feeling that we have'nt played anything like so well, since Connelly has been injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2010 As you well know Alpine, Saints are featuring in 3 competitions and require strength in depth if they are going to achieve what they require in 5 seasons. Also, there will be various changes in players, because many will not make the entire journey up the leagues. Connolly, as has been reported on here in several threads, is out of form, according to Alan Pardew, and therefore has not been picked of late. I don't see it as being the last we'll ever see of him though. I'm sure he'll be back, and I'm sure you think so too. How is he to get "form" without playing ? I think it is fair to ask if the club are being straight about the magnitude of his injury problems. As for the smart-arse comments on this thread : AndyNorthernSaint, if he is on the verge of the return we are led to believe, why buy another player ? Saint_clark, I am still trying to work out is your post more banal, or plain stupid. I have posed a perfectly valid question, which most people have responded to sensibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 How is he to get "form" without playing ? I think it is fair to ask if the club are being straight about the magnitude of his injury problems. As for the smart-arse comments on this thread : AndyNorthernSaint, if he is on the verge of the return we are led to believe, why buy another player ? Saint_clark, I am still trying to work out is your post more banal, or plain stupid. I have posed a perfectly valid question, which most people have responded to sensibly. Connolly isn't Lambert. Barnard is also not Lambert but is closer to him in style and build than Connelly is. Waigo is not an experienced forward. Lallana isn't a striker. So the question is, should we have left the transfer window with only Lambert & Connelly as the recognised strikers in our squad? AP has now got cover for every position 4 CB's Antonio/Waigo on the right, Holmes/Puncheon on the left. None of them are clones but it shows his thinking. Let's see what happens with Barnard when he does settle in and find his feet, the only real worry I would have and agree on is that IF Connolly is crocked then only having two out and out strikers may be one too few The point about the Connolly injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 How is he to get "form" without playing ? I think it is fair to ask if the club are being straight about the magnitude of his injury problems. As for the smart-arse comments on this thread : AndyNorthernSaint, if he is on the verge of the return we are led to believe, why buy another player ? Saint_clark, I am still trying to work out is your post more banal, or plain stupid. I have posed a perfectly valid question, which most people have responded to sensibly. Why did we buy Barnard???? Are you really THAT dense Alps! Ok, I make things easy as you are a bit hard of thinking...... Football is a SQUAD game. Funnily enough the 11 players and subs that you see (or rather don't see in your case) on a Satuday are in fact NOT the only players the club have. There are other members of the 'squad'. It is commonly accepted that a team needs 4 strikers in its first team squad to cover injuries, illness, loss of form, rotation, etc. Now that we have shipped out both Saga and Paterson we only have 3 recognised strikers, even after signing Barnard (and Connoly can not be expcted to be fit for anywhere near the full amount of games). The nearest we have to a 4th striker would have to be McClaggon who has pretty much zero experience in senior football. So the question you SHOULD be asking is why have we ONLY signed one striker this window. As an aside does your relentlessly negative manic depression stretch to other aspects of your life? I always have the picture of your daughter returning from school with a report card full of 'A's and a single B+ with a face as pleased as Punch only to be greeted by you reading it and collapsing into howls of despair that the single B+ will undoubtedly mean she will end up unemployed and living under the railway arches.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 How is he to get "form" without playing ? I think it is fair to ask if the club are being straight about the magnitude of his injury problems. As for the smart-arse comments on this thread : AndyNorthernSaint, if he is on the verge of the return we are led to believe, why buy another player ? Saint_clark, I am still trying to work out is your post more banal, or plain stupid. I have posed a perfectly valid question, which most people have responded to sensibly. Well, how did Lee Holmes get his chance..? By showing excellent form in training sessions and matches. In the absence of competition, they have to simulate these things in training and practice matches, and obviously Connolly is not showing up sufficiently well at the moment. I'm sure he'll be back though, especially as we need quality personnel for the Cup matches. But I would have thought you would realise this, hence my comment. The flippant comments have been, and are noted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Why did we buy Barnard???? Are you really THAT dense Alps! Ok, I make things easy as you are a bit hard of thinking...... Football is a SQUAD game. Funnily enough the 11 players and subs that you see (or rather don't see in your case) on a Satuday are in fact NOT the only players the club have. There are other members of the 'squad'. It is commonly accepted that a team needs 4 strikers in its first team squad to cover injuries, illness, loss of form, rotation, etc. Now that we have shipped out both Saga and Paterson we only have 3 recognised strikers, even after signing Barnard (and Connoly can not be expcted to be fit for anywhere near the full amount of games). The nearest we have to a 4th striker would have to be McClaggon who has pretty much zero experience in senior football. So the question you SHOULD be asking is why have we ONLY signed one striker this window. As an aside does your relentlessly negative manic depression stretch to other aspects of your life? I always have the picture of your daughter returning from school with a report card full of 'A's and a single B+ with a face as pleased as Punch only to be greeted by you reading it and collapsing into howls of despair that the single B+ will undoubtedly mean she will end up unemployed and living under the railway arches.... Do you have to reply in such a c#ntish manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Why did we buy Barnard???? Are you really THAT dense Alps! Ok, I make things easy as you are a bit hard of thinking...... Football is a SQUAD game. Funnily enough the 11 players and subs that you see (or rather don't see in your case) on a Satuday are in fact NOT the only players the club have. There are other members of the 'squad'. It is commonly accepted that a team needs 4 strikers in its first team squad to cover injuries, illness, loss of form, rotation, etc. Now that we have shipped out both Saga and Paterson we only have 3 recognised strikers, even after signing Barnard (and Connoly can not be expcted to be fit for anywhere near the full amount of games). The nearest we have to a 4th striker would have to be McClaggon who has pretty much zero experience in senior football. So the question you SHOULD be asking is why have we ONLY signed one striker this window. As an aside does your relentlessly negative manic depression stretch to other aspects of your life? I always have the picture of your daughter returning from school with a report card full of 'A's and a single B+ with a face as pleased as Punch only to be greeted by you reading it and collapsing into howls of despair that the single B+ will undoubtedly mean she will end up unemployed and living under the railway arches.... Any valid point that you may have to make in any of your posts is completely undermined by your sneering abuse. I may react aggressively to people's posts by calling their opinion bullsh*t, but at least I dont post hurtful garbage and digs about their personal lives. Surprised you havent been banned by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 One thing for certain Alpine is you will not see him because you do not go to games> Youu are really a moaning old git at times Alpine. see your other threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2010 One thing for certain Alpine is you will not see him because you do not go to games> Youu are really a moaning old git at times Alpine. see your other threads Wow. An original insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red and White Army Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Why don't you go and see some games and then pass judgements alpine? You just troll this place rotten and post these threads knowing exactly what kind of reaction you will get. Posting for attention, posting deliberately provocative threads - you are simply a troll and should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Why don't you go and see some games and then pass judgements alpine? You just troll this place rotten and post these threads knowing exactly what kind of reaction you will get. Posting for attention, posting deliberately provocative threads - you are simply a troll and should be banned. Why do I need to judge if Connolly has played or not ? Surely its unequivocal - his name is on the team sheet or not. what is provocative ? I rate him, think he is one of our quality players and am frustrated by his absence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 OK peeps, perhaps you can stop turning this thread into a let's pick on Alpine Saint again session. He lives in mainland Europe, and therefore doesn't get to see Saints. But he can read between the lines, and listen to any radio and watch any TV links that might be going. He's not completely uninformed. What I would suggest to you Alpine is that you don't start off threads with such a provocative premise, because sometimes [only sometimes] you invite the brik-bats you receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 What is wrong with him, and why have we bought Barnard ? you've lost the plot, I think Alpine..... Barnard is cover for Lambert / Lallana ....and Connolly was cover for Saga.... ..now that Saga has gone... we need cover for Connolly 'cos he's injured... ...they say Michael Owen is on the move ..so maybe.... :smt103 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 Any valid point that you may have to make in any of your posts is completely undermined by your sneering abuse. I may react aggressively to people's posts by calling their opinion bullsh*t, but at least I dont post hurtful garbage and digs about their personal lives. Surprised you havent been banned by now. Ah, bless you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 It was a valid question. Negative posters aren't the problem round ere, its the morons that jump down peoples throats every 5 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 OK then. Yes, we will see him again. He was out with an injury for two years and needs to work his way back slowly. We bought Barnard because we need more options up front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westofshannonsaint Posted 1 February, 2010 Share Posted 1 February, 2010 hes probably still got the same groin tbf that really made me chuckle. I'm glad to see that Saints have brought, there are a lot of 'must win' games to go to & Pardew is right to make sure that DC is not rushed back, he has also said that Lambert is going to need a rest at some stage, as others have said it is a squad game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 wasn't it a groin injury which kept him out for 18 months? Hope its not related. How many groins do you have? Of course its related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 AP said several times that Barnard was cover for Lambert who is a big man and desperately in need of a rest. Why can't people accept that instead of conjuring up various conspiracy theories? Barnard and Lambo are our only two players capable of holding the line and holding the ball up to compliment the way our team is currently set up to play. Before Barnard we were relying solely on Lambo staying fit. Papa, Connolly and Lallana are all very good forwards IMO but are not the type of player to hold the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2010 OK peeps, perhaps you can stop turning this thread into a let's pick on Alpine Saint again session. He lives in mainland Europe, and therefore doesn't get to see Saints. But he can read between the lines, and listen to any radio and watch any TV links that might be going. He's not completely uninformed. What I would suggest to you Alpine is that you don't start off threads with such a provocative premise, because sometimes [only sometimes] you invite the brik-bats you receive. I appreciate your efforts to moderate here. Serious question though. Looking at how things panned out for Killer, and looking at Connolly's injury record, is it really so unreasonable and provocative for a Saints fan to wonder if lightning can strike in the same place twice (or several times, when you consider the likes of Delgado, David Hirst, etc...) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 We needed Killer - I look at anything we getr from Connolly as a bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 Connelly will score against the skates, just like Pahars did in 2003. This is a well known fact. I do worry that we have seen the last of Connell. Its obvious that he is a class player and at this level he could score a lot of goals. But It seems the old groin injury has been a problem again recently. Pardew has been quiet about him too. So I am not too sure its good news. I hope I am wrong though. I hope he is fully fit to play against Pompey. Even if it was the last time he kicked a ball for us I’d be happy to have him in the squad that day. If he was to score the winning goal or goals and that was the last thing he ever did for Saints. He would become a new Saints legend and would be worth a season of paid wages at the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 2 February, 2010 Author Share Posted 2 February, 2010 I do worry that we have seen the last of Connell. Its obvious that he is a class player and at this level he could score a lot of goals. But It seems the old groin injury has been a problem again recently. Pardew has been quiet about him too. So I am not too sure its good news. I hope I am wrong though. This is what my concern is. It doesnt "feel" right. He is either a long way from a return or not going to at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 OK peeps, perhaps you can stop turning this thread into a let's pick on Alpine Saint again session. He lives in mainland Europe, and therefore doesn't get to see Saints. But he can read between the lines, and listen to any radio and watch any TV links that might be going. He's not completely uninformed. What I would suggest to you Alpine is that you don't start off threads with such a provocative premise, because sometimes [only sometimes] you invite the brik-bats you receive. And it doesn't really aid the debate when mods join in with 'brik-brats' as well. He may not be everyone's cup of tea but he's asked two reasonable questions in the opening post that don't deserve the mandatory 'you don't go to games so can't contribute' type statements. The 'I'm better than you' fans had hopefully been a thing of the past but prehaps not. Back to the questions posed then it would seem that Connelly is continuing to struggle with niggling injuries which is why his contract was structured as it was. You can't show 'form' in training. You can show effort, desire, enthusiasm and fitness but not form. Hopefully Barnard will give us the additional fire power we need after being a little light in personnel with the departures of Saga and Paterson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 For my money, Connolly was worth whatever we have paid him and whatever we will pay him. If he plays one game in five, fine, he is real class act and they are bloody few and far between. He would have buried every chance that's fallen to Barnard. As I am sure Barnard also will when he gets into top form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 Wow. An original insight. That's true Alps, many people here think you are a moaning old git so not at all original as you say.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 2 February, 2010 Share Posted 2 February, 2010 just a bit further out though, 30 yards. it is writen That is his second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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