Matthew Le God Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 (edited) It looks like Southend have a final chance to pay their tax bill by Wednesday. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southend_utd/8617704.stm Should they not, they may well be wound up and results expunged. How would this impact on the League? Well it would become a 44 game season and Saints wouldn't have a game on the last day of the season taking away the game in hand. However all other play off rivals have already played Southend twice and would lose points from both games. Updated League One table without Southend Results EDIT: Including Bristol Rovers 5-1 game P PTS 6th Huddersfield 40 67 7th Colchester 40 62 8th Southampton 40 60 9th Bristol Rovers 40 58 So all clubs would have 4 games left. Saints would be 7 points behind 6th. Currently it is 8 points behind with 5 games left(including a game in hand). So it is in Saints interests for this not to happen. All this probably won't matter as Southend will probably sort something out or go into administration like Pompey did. However it is still a possible future of events. Edited 14 April, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 They best sort it out - I like Southend. Best fans I have ever seen at SMS (anywhere) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 I'd rather have the situation we're in right now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Are Southend allowed to enter administration before the date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Southend is not our game in hand though...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Southend is not our game in hand though...? No one else challenging for 6th place is playing them, so we would have one less game if they fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Southend is not our game in hand though...? I know it is Oldham. But if Southend are removed from the league it means Saints like all other playoff hopefuls are on 39 games and that effectively means no game in hand for Saints and no fixture on the final day of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Is there a scenario that would be good for Saints? Huddersfield going bust for instance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 No one else challenging for 6th place is playing them, so we would have one less game if they fold. Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ficky moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 I know it is Oldham. But if Southend are removed from the league it means Saints like all other playoff hopefuls are on 39 games and that effectively means no game in hand for Saints. Because when we should play Southend the others will play some-one else. But the others would lose all the points gained against Southend, we'd lose 3, don't know about the others.Anyone having lost or drawn against them would get an advantage on their current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Because when we should play Southend the others will play some-one else. But the others would lose all the points gained against Southend, we'd lose 3, don't know about the others.Anyone having lost or drawn against them would get an advantage on their current situation. Read the opening post and look at the table I made. I did all the work for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Its all in hand. Southend have got multimillion backing from Sainsburys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKimish Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 The only team that could make a massive difference would be Swindon going bust, seeing as they have already done the double on us and the occupy one of the play off spots. P PTS 4th Charlton 39 72 5th Huddersfield 39 67 6th Colchester 39 67 7th Southampton 38 60 8th Bristol Rovers 39 55 Which would leave us 7 points off with a game still in hand! However there is absolutely no chance of this happening unfortunately Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 That would be a real shame if they went bust I know someone who lives in Southend & he went to watch our FA Cup match with Pompey in a local pub. There was a number of Southend fans in there en route to their home match with Tranmere, and not a single person was cheering for Pompey When Lambert scored there were massive cheers Absolutely no idea why, but the two clubs appear to have developed an affection for each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 13 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Absolutely no idea why, but the two clubs appear to have developed an affection for each other A common factor of having "South" in the name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 They best sort it out - I like Southend. Best fans I have ever seen at SMS (anywhere) To be fair that was because they were already down and having a party and we were all but in the play offs. Would have been different if we had both needed results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellboypete Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Seems unlikely that they will go bust or enter administration. They are starting work on their new stadium in June: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southend_utd/8582327.stm and the court thingy this week seems more of a judgement on their appeal that they originally overpaid the HMRC rather than owe any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi_sopez Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 i hope southend survive! who could ever forget that massive love in on the final day of the season a few years back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Its all in hand. Southend have got multimillion backing from Sainsburys. Big new nicey shiny stadium and everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 To be fair that was because they were already down and having a party and we were all but in the play offs. Would have been different if we had both needed results. I still like em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 I still like em You make a cute couple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 I still like em I didn't like the gimp with the fish tank much tbh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Is there a scenario that would be good for Saints? Huddersfield going bust for instance? I think it would be good all round if Pompey were flushed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintkiptanui Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 They best sort it out - I like Southend. Best fans I have ever seen at SMS (anywhere)Because a fan dressed as sponge bob:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikec Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Because a fan dressed as sponge bob:rolleyes: Isn't that a good enough reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Because a fan dressed as sponge bob:rolleyes: People expect so much these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 13 April, 2010 Share Posted 13 April, 2010 Big new nicey shiny stadium and everything Only club to still be playing at their first ground, I think. I enjoyed the love in as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Read the opening post and look at the table I made. I did all the work for you. This is a place for POSTING, not for READING. Suprised you haven't yet realised that NOBODY actually listens to anyone else, they just re-read their own posts ..over..and over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Im not sure how much southend owe to the taxman but I dont think its lareg amounts. Would it not be in ML's interest to make a donation to the taxman on thier behalf to keep things level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Im not sure how much southend owe to the taxman but I dont think its lareg amounts. Would it not be in ML's interest to make a donation to the taxman on thier behalf to keep things level. Completely contravenes FA rules, as was mentioned when David Gold suggested doing the same for Pompey a couple of months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Im not sure how much southend owe to the taxman but I dont think its lareg amounts. Would it not be in ML's interest to make a donation to the taxman on thier behalf to keep things level. And then watch the **** that would hit the fan when we beat the by 2 clear goals in the 85th and 88th minute on the last day of the season to snatch the last play off place on goal difference.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Get Barnard into the office & ask him if southend have any decent players left then buy them & send cheque straight to taxman Ok the player would be unable to be registered to us till end of season but officially he could suffer a mystery injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Get Barnard into the office & ask him if southend have any decent players left then buy them & send cheque straight to taxman Ok the player would be unable to be registered to us till end of season but officially he could suffer a mystery injury I like their bald captain, Barrett I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stattmeister Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Whilst we discuss the realms of fantasy, what happens if P*mpey go bust in the close season? I know, highly unlikely with their latest tyre kicker emerging, but nonetheless. Presumably they would promote a further team from all the lower leagues? Just a question, hypothetical. Not that I'm clutching at starws or anything!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbul Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Because a fan dressed as sponge bob:rolleyes: And one as Patrick.... That was a cracking day though and as a consequence of this I have a soft spot for Southend. Similar thing happened when we played Stockport in a cup game at The Dell; all the Stockport fans stood up and started singing "STAND UP IF YOU HATE MAN U....etc." We all joined in and we were best mates after that. Good job 'cos they beat us on the night.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 April, 2010 (edited) Case adjorned to 2:30pm, not looking good for Southend. Updated table without Southend - 44 games to play. P PTS 6th Huddersfield 40 67 7th Colchester 40 62 8th Southampton 40 60 9th Bristol Rovers 40 58 Would make it even harder for Saints to make the playoffs. Edited 14 April, 2010 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 FFS Come on Markus...time for a mystery sum of money to land up in Southend's bank account... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Hopefully it's just administration.... HOPEFULLY... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 They've been given another 7 days to pay, the club say the cheque is in the post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintkiptanui Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Why are they in so much sh*t but the skates have got away with it???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Yet another new stadium tied up with enabling retail development, JS want it to happen (adjoins a Waitrose store) so they need SFC to keep afloat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Why are they in so much sh*t but the skates have got away with it???? Its called the Premier League which (IMO but can't prove it;)) is a wholly owned subsidiary of Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 14 April, 2010 Author Share Posted 14 April, 2010 Why are they in so much sh*t but the skates have got away with it???? They were in the same amount of sh!t. Pompey eased their problems with administration. Southend haven't taken that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolsaint29 Posted 14 April, 2010 Share Posted 14 April, 2010 It looks like Southend have a final chance to pay their tax bill by Wednesday. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southend_utd/8617704.stm Should they not, they may well be wound up and results expunged. How would this impact on the League? Well it would become a 44 game season and Saints wouldn't have a game on the last day of the season taking away the game in hand. However all other play off rivals have already played Southend twice and would lose points from both games. Updated League One table without Southend Results EDIT: Including Bristol Rovers 5-1 game P PTS 6th Huddersfield 40 67 7th Colchester 40 62 8th Southampton 40 60 9th Bristol Rovers 40 58 So all clubs would have 4 games left. Saints would be 7 points behind 6th. Currently it is 8 points behind with 5 games left(including a game in hand). So it is in Saints interests for this not to happen. All this probably won't matter as Southend will probably sort something out or go into administration like Pompey did. However it is still a possible future of events. Would be still be allowed to stand up at the games if this happens? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 20 April, 2010 Share Posted 20 April, 2010 All sorted.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southend_utd/8631931.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South City Si Posted 20 April, 2010 Share Posted 20 April, 2010 All sorted.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/southend_utd/8631931.stm Good good, they can join in with our play-off party on the last game still! Now it's Pompey's turn to pay their tax! :smt084 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLOTH EARS Posted 20 April, 2010 Share Posted 20 April, 2010 Southends fans were a genuinely decent bunch when they came here a couple of years back. There is nothing wrong with a friendship between fans. Yes, i like rivalry, especially with that lot in East Hampshire but i also like a good ol chat with opposing fans and the Southend fans i spoke to were brilliant. They were certainly the best for fancy dress, they had me in stitches! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 20 April, 2010 Share Posted 20 April, 2010 Now all thats left to do for southend is to concede a Lee Barnard hatrick as we grab 6th spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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