Fergie Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 So they have lost their top scorer Murray to a mediocre championship team...and have now lost their midfielder Bennett to Norwich. Why do their best players seem to be jumping ship when they are about to head into a new era with the club...perhaps goings on behind closed doors!?? Losing arguably two of their better players wont be good for them at all. What do we feel of their chances in the NPC this season? discuss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 Lost 2 signed one...... No big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 Signed 2 you mean. Buckley and Hoskins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 They lost Murray as they didn't value him at the wages he was demanding, which is fair enough and I believe they promised Bennett a move in the summer after rejecting a bid from Norwich in January. They've already spent £1.5mish on that Watford lad and Hoskin's from Brighton (who is most probably better value for money then Murray). Think I read somewhere on another forum that Gus was hinting at more money being spent so they'll be fine. As much as I dislike Poyet, he is a good manager who knows what he's doing at Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fergie Posted 14 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 14 June, 2011 oh, didnt see that they'd signed Hoskins, he's a decent player. Not sure of his ability in the NPC but only time will tell that. I think with Poyet they have a manager which prem clubs would most likely be happy to send good young players out on loan too, and he is someone i imagine could tempt older fringe players from better clubs to have a couple seasons at the sea side!! I'm sure he has something up his sleeve, however i really feel they'll struggle massively this season... ...still, its early doors, anything could happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bender Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 they look like theyre signing Lua lua too who was on loan there earlier in the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 Shearer to Cardiff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 They'll spend more money than they have, but regardless of placing them, losing your 3 best players when you get promoted is hardly a good sign. Hopkins was a Watford reject, as per Buckley but Im sure they wouldnt have splashed the cash on them if they werent handy players. More transfer activity from them to come from them im sure, but so far they dont have me too worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 With their delusional fan base? Yes, perhaps. I still don't understand why they think Poyet is the messiah. I think a lot of other managers could have done the job he's done, and with less or no moaning at all. Well done to them for a good season last time out but I hope they get a nice reality check. Oh and they need to stop being such a bunch of morons. We are not your rivals, now **** off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 Poyet to Villa............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 Poyet to Brum...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 Silly that so many of them think we are rivals. Every club in the league is a rival but the Skates are our local rivals and everybody and his dog is relishing the prospect of us giving them a right hammering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 Poyet to Brum...... That would not surprise me in the slightest if that were to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 don't think doomed, but weaker than last season and we were better then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 I can't see them finishing above half way and fully expect them to struggle, like they started to at the end of the season when they had to play a couple of half decent sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 They seem to think they're signing Robbie Keane FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1971 Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 Poyet will sign better players than Adkins because players know who he is that is a fact. Adkins will struggle to get any other than old mates from Scunny to come to SMS, i.e Forte/N`Geussan. not his fault he`s what some would call a unfashionable boring chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 Poyet will sign better players than Adkins because players know who he is that is a fact. Adkins will struggle to get any other than old mates from Scunny to come to SMS, i.e Forte/N`Geussan. not his fault he`s what some would call a unfashionable boring chap. Absolute rubbish, no offence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 Poyet will sign better players than Adkins because players know who he is that is a fact. Adkins will struggle to get any other than old mates from Scunny to come to SMS, i.e Forte/N`Geussan. not his fault he`s what some would call a unfashionable boring chap. rubbish. if you give it a moments thought sure you can think of several genuine reasons why player may choose Adkins / Saints over Poyet / Brighton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildgoose Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 Absolute rubbish, no offence. Agreed! I don't think there's any truth in that view at all......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 14 June, 2011 Share Posted 14 June, 2011 They'll do okay. mid table ish. c. 12th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustonmyfeet Posted 15 June, 2011 Share Posted 15 June, 2011 rubbish. if you give it a moments thought sure you can think of several genuine reasons why player may choose Adkins / Saints over Poyet / Brighton. 1. Footballers would prefer to work for an organ grinder and not a monkey 2. Adkins has a bus. 3. It's as simple as that. 4. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Poyet will sign better players than Adkins because players know who he is that is a fact. Adkins will struggle to get any other than old mates from Scunny to come to SMS, i.e Forte/N`Geussan. not his fault he`s what some would call a unfashionable boring chap. What tosh! Players sign for clubs for a number of reasons. What has more to do with it than most, is the enticement that a player signing for a Championship club might be playing for a Premiership side in the near future. From that perspective, we are probably the better prospect than Brighton. We are also the wealthier club in terms of ownership, so we have financial and no question marks over our security and ability to pay fees and wages. Then add in other factors like the support, infrastructure like training facilities, stadium, etc and we are by far the better proposition than Brighton, or indeed most other clubs in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 My heart bleeds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 What tosh! Players sign for clubs for a number of reasons. What has more to do with it than most, is the enticement that a player signing for a Championship club might be playing for a Premiership side in the near future. From that perspective, we are probably the better prospect than Brighton. We are also the wealthier club in terms of ownership, so we have financial and no question marks over our security and ability to pay fees and wages. Then add in other factors like the support, infrastructure like training facilities, stadium, etc and we are by far the better proposition than Brighton, or indeed most other clubs in this division. Agreed players would sign for a club they have heard of and because of there facilities before they would judge the manager, yes having a big name manager does help but hes a big name manager for lower leagues, we had Paul Sturrock in charge and under him we signed Crouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Why should they be? Their defence will still be solid and I think Ankergren is a good enough keeper. There are still some very poor sides to be weeded out of the NPC and Brighton will no doubt survive fairly easily. Doncaster,Barnsley and Watford would be my relegation favourites next season closely followed by Bristol City and believe it or not Blackpool, parachute payments and all,because they're going to lose a lot of players in a short time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Brighton will survie i believe but IMO that Murray is a young talent that if they kept him till Jan and he scored 10-12 goals in the 1st half of the season would of been snapped up for 4-5 mill by a prem club, hes gonna be a prem player who will ship in 10-15 goals, i feel there less of a threat now hes gone despite there replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Brighton will survie i believe but IMO that Murray is a young talent that if they kept him till Jan and he scored 10-12 goals in the 1st half of the season would of been snapped up for 4-5 mill by a prem club, hes gonna be a prem player who will ship in 10-15 goals, i feel there less of a threat now hes gone despite there replacements. Murray was out of contract so Brighton would have had to offer him a new one so him being sold in January wouldn't be particularly evident. He's obviously cashed in on his success by getting a good contract from palarse now instead of taking an inferior one with Brighton and waiting to see how he gets on in the NPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Buckley is quality and better than Bennett who has a lot of raw talent but will I suspect be used as an impact sub by Norwich in the PL. Hoskins will do better this time around. Murray looked quality at SMS a couple of seasons ago but hasn't played at this level yet so Palace will hope Freedman gets the best out of him. Brighton will be top 10 I think, not quite top 6 but they've got Palace, Skates, us to visit their new ground and a bigger budget than they've ever enjoyed before. I thought a minority of their fans were idiots last season but then so are some of ours and I wouldn't want to be tarred with the same brush either. After what Archer and Bellotti did to them in the mid-90s, they deserve a bit of success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Buckley is quality and better than Bennett who has a lot of raw talent but will I suspect be used as an impact sub by Norwich in the PL. Hoskins will do better this time around. Murray looked quality at SMS a couple of seasons ago but hasn't played at this level yet so Palace will hope Freedman gets the best out of him. Brighton will be top 10 I think, not quite top 6 but they've got Palace, Skates, us to visit their new ground and a bigger budget than they've ever enjoyed before. I thought a minority of their fans were idiots last season but then so are some of ours and I wouldn't want to be tarred with the same brush either. After what Archer and Bellotti did to them in the mid-90s, they deserve a bit of success. Simply not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 With their delusional fan base? Yes, perhaps. I still don't understand why they think Poyet is the messiah. I think a lot of other managers could have done the job he's done, and with less or no moaning at all. Well done to them for a good season last time out but I hope they get a nice reality check. Oh and they need to stop being such a bunch of morons. We are not your rivals, now **** off. So we aren't so lucky to have Adkins? If he left there would be lots who coud do as well? Billy Davies for one maybe.... oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 They've already spent £1.5mish on that Watford lad and Hoskin's from BrightonSo Brighton have spent £1.5m on a lad from Watford and they have signed Hoskins from themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Brighton will survie i believe but IMO that Murray is a young talent that if they kept him till Jan and he scored 10-12 goals in the 1st half of the season would of been snapped up for 4-5 mill by a prem club, hes gonna be a prem player who will ship in 10-15 goals, i feel there less of a threat now hes gone despite there replacements. Glenn Murray turns 28 years old in September 2011. Can he really be described as a "young talent"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Brighton will survie i believe but IMO that Murray is a young talent that if they kept him till Jan and he scored 10-12 goals in the 1st half of the season would of been snapped up for 4-5 mill by a prem club, hes gonna be a prem player who will ship in 10-15 goals, i feel there less of a threat now hes gone despite there replacements. There is a lot more to story to be honest. Never settled at the club and by all accounts put in at least two transfer requests over the period of his time there. Very hit and miss until last season whilst coming to the end of his contract. Wanted a certain amount of money, Brighton didn't think he was worth it - Palace obviously did. Southampton possibly didn't - we'll never know. Money isn't really the issue at Brighton any more (Lua Lua signing permanently tomorrow), but they are going to pay players more than they think they are worth. He won't be missed, because replacements are being (and will be) signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 "not going to pay" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Brighton will survie i believe... They'll do far better than just survive, I can see them having a good season...top half finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 Glenn Murray turns 28 years old in September 2011. Can he really be described as a "young talent"? I bet you were foaming at the gash when you saw this needed correcting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 I bet you were foaming at the gash when you saw this needed correcting! My bad got the strikers messed up at brighton... the other guy is gonna be the future young talent Barnes i think his name is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
south Posted 16 June, 2011 Share Posted 16 June, 2011 My bad got the strikers messed up at brighton... the other guy is gonna be the future young talent Barnes i think his name is But splits opinion with Brighton fans - as did Murray. It's always interesting isn't it ? how opposing fans views differ from home ones. In many cases the home fans are wrong... If there is one player who doesn't split opinion it's Lua Lua who is signing permanently tomorrow. More than makes up for Murray for me, many times so. I was never a Murray fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 17 June, 2011 Share Posted 17 June, 2011 Agreed players would sign for a club they have heard of and because of there facilities before they would judge the manager, yes having a big name manager does help but hes a big name manager for lower leagues, we had Paul Sturrock in charge and under him we signed Crouch. Not a good example. Crouch had been languishing at Villa and O'Leary thought he was crap, so it wasn't the big signing by an little-known manager you are making it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 17 June, 2011 Share Posted 17 June, 2011 Far from doomed IMO. Players out being replaced. Stadium capacity increasing from 8,000 to 22,000 so a big increase in income. A multi-millionaire chairman who is a lifelong supporter of the club. A manager with a decent track record, even if his eyes are too close together. Their target is consolidation in the NpC which seems a reasonable expectation. The Falmer Stadium is capable of expansion to 35,000 so they have some future proofing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 17 June, 2011 Share Posted 17 June, 2011 My bad.... This is an English forum - no crappy Americanisms please ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 20 June, 2011 Share Posted 20 June, 2011 So they have lost their top scorer Murray to a mediocre championship team...and have now lost their midfielder Bennett to Norwich. Why do their best players seem to be jumping ship when they are about to head into a new era with the club...perhaps goings on behind closed doors!?? Losing arguably two of their better players wont be good for them at all. What do we feel of their chances in the NPC this season? discuss... I can't understand why Club Directors think that a promoted side will automatically play better in a new £90 mill. stadium? OK they can get increased income from extra fans turning up, but their team had ONE good season and now have sold some of their best players. Surely common sense would have said cut a few luxury corners from the new arena and give the manager some more dosh to buy some better players instead. (!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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