trousers Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 "The former-Fulham manager Chris Coleman said, "Southampton passed the ball around as well as anyone in the league. You can see the Dutch mentality that has been brought to them by their manager. They play without fear. For the first 15 minutes at the Ricoh we couldn't get the ball off them. I admire Southampton for how they try to play. A lot of the football in this division is physical and it's all about long balls and second balls, but they're not like that and for me they are the best passing team in the league." http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=10818 Surely even TSW can't turn that one into a negative.....can we....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 We can compete with or better many teams in this division between the two penalty boxes. Unforetunately were crap in the other 36 yards of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 "The former-Fulham manager Chris Coleman said, "Southampton passed the ball around as well as anyone in the league. You can see the Dutch mentality that has been brought to them by their manager. They play without fear. For the first 15 minutes at the Ricoh we couldn't get the ball off them. I admire Southampton for how they try to play. A lot of the football in this division is physical and it's all about long balls and second balls, but they're not like that and for me they are the best passing team in the league." http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=10818 Surely even TSW can't turn that one into a negative.....can we....? Unfortunately the only negative is we don't pass the ball into the goal. Oh, and we can't defend either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 It would be so, so nice if it worked for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 Arsenal are the best in the world,but last night showed that there is more to pro. football than just good passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 It's a shame we didn't JP or someone of his ilk in charge when we had Bale, Baird, Pele, Kenwnye, Rasiak etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 Arsenal are the best in the world,but last night showed that there is more to pro. football than just good passing. That just shows that even at the highest level young players are naive. Someone should have fouled Jenas rather than let him run 40 yards in the Arsenal half. Clichy should just put his laces through the ball rather than **** about in his own half and Fabregas should have gone for the corner at 4-3 rather than play in Adebayor. They where superb, easily the better team. It was just those three naive mistakes that cost them imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 "The former-Fulham manager Chris Coleman said, "Southampton passed the ball around as well as anyone in the league. You can see the Dutch mentality that has been brought to them by their manager. They play without fear. For the first 15 minutes at the Ricoh we couldn't get the ball off them. I admire Southampton for how they try to play. A lot of the football in this division is physical and it's all about long balls and second balls, but they're not like that and for me they are the best passing team in the league." http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=10818 Surely even TSW can't turn that one into a negative.....can we....? Does passing gain points in the League? No While its a great complement it does us no good whatsoever. The rules of football are still basically simple. The team that scores the most goals wins. I would be far happier if all the other managers were saying, "Southampton are the best goal scoring team in the league". If you think thats negative then so be it. It is still better than if they were saying "Southampton are the best at conceding goals in the league". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 shows what most of us thought / knew imo. All we needed was a decent couple players at the back (davies for example) and a striker who knows where the goal is aka Rasiak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 We have an extra player in midfield to most teams which is why we can pass it round in that area and is also why we have **** all in the opposition's box. 'Propaganda football' is i think what WGS called it. Ultimately it achieves **** all unless you are getting players in the box and can produce a final ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 'Best passing team in the league' yep, just passing through on our way to League 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 Its like being the best turned out horse at the national. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjinksie Posted 30 October, 2008 Share Posted 30 October, 2008 "The former-Fulham manager Chris Coleman said, "Southampton passed the ball around as well as anyone in the league. You can see the Dutch mentality that has been brought to them by their manager. They play without fear. For the first 15 minutes at the Ricoh we couldn't get the ball off them. I admire Southampton for how they try to play. A lot of the football in this division is physical and it's all about long balls and second balls, but they're not like that and for me they are the best passing team in the league." http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=10818 Surely even TSW can't turn that one into a negative.....can we....? not sure about dutch mentality, more like jim magilton... it all went sidewyas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Its like being the best turned out horse at the national. No it's not. It shows our boys have real potential. No-one's pretending it's all going smoothly so far, but i don't see why that's a good reason for this forum to be so ****ing negative about everything. I'm off to read saintslist on my email. Bit more productive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Somewhat reminds me of last season when teams kept on about how Saints were the best opposition team to play at our ground, just after the home team beat Saints :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nutkins Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 shows what most of us thought / knew imo. All we needed was a decent couple players at the back (davies for example) and a striker who knows where the goal is aka Rasiak Indeed, apart from a specialist right full-back, we had the players at the club at the start of the season, to compliment our ability to pass the ball around. But hey ho, finances had to come first.........apparently.:smt102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 "The former-Fulham manager Chris Coleman said, "Southampton passed the ball around as well as anyone in the league. You can see the Dutch mentality that has been brought to them by their manager. They play without fear. For the first 15 minutes at the Ricoh we couldn't get the ball off them. I admire Southampton for how they try to play. A lot of the football in this division is physical and it's all about long balls and second balls, but they're not like that and for me they are the best passing team in the league." http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=10818 Surely even TSW can't turn that one into a negative.....can we....? Sounds like other teams are feeling sorry for poooooor old saints , Swans manager saying we were the hardest team they played...what a load of bo*loks I'h hate to see Swans play a crap team....what do they score then 10 goals...it is utter garbage...hang onto any positive they can , because in reality is SShiiite relegation form , and we are going down...but please keep spending your money cos you never know as Jan said we are going to get 6 wins from 10 games...do they really takes us for complete mugs ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mprobert Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Thats very good to read, its nice to know that some fellow professionals respect and admire what Saints are doing even if some of the fans can't see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 I'm not surprised opposition manager's love us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Thats very good to read, its nice to know that some fellow professionals respect and admire what Saints are doing even if some of the fans can't see it Why can't the fans see it? Who are the people who have told us that we are crap at passing the ball? Most of us on here have acknowledged that we are good at passing the ball. Has anybody who has posted on this thread disputed that? Great at passing the ball, crap at putting it in the net, or defending against rivals' strikers. That is what people say. Argue against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Thats very good to read, its nice to know that some fellow professionals respect and admire what Saints are doing even if some of the fans can't see it Maybe this is Chris Coleman explaining to his own fans , why they did not pick up all 3 points against a team who are in the bottom 3. Obviously makes him look better and justifing why they only got a point...maybe the Coventry fans will swallow that excuse.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 I've read similar quotes/reports about Nottingham Forrest being a good passing team. Also Doncaster looked a very good footballing side when they beat Dirty Leeds in the play off final. At the end of the day you need proven goalscorers and a physical presence up front and in defence to succeed in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Its like being told your a really nice bloke but crap in bed really though isn't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Its like being told your a really nice bloke but crap in bed really though isn't it I was thinking of something very similar. My analogy was going on a blind date set up by a close friend, only to be met by a big, fat, ugly munter. The next day you tell your friend the blind date had a lovely personality. Until the League start awarding points for pretty play or completed passes, methinks we should stick to gaining points the orthodox way (i.e. scoring and winning, or at least drawing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 (edited) ................ Edited 7 December, 2008 by Viking Warrior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwertySFC Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Its like being told your a really nice bloke but crap in bed really though isn't it Interesting point of view....not personal experience though Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 If we could become moderately successful playing this way it would be fine by me. I saw enough of our crap over the seasons and while I agree with the comments about Arsenal being brittle, what a wonderful type of football to watch. When we start invcreasing our win rate (if) then things will look so much better. Of course the fans who delude themselves that we are some super club will not be satisfied. Its time to accept the fact that we are viewed much as we do Cov, Ipswich Norwich Boro etc.We have not for decades been viewed as a rival to Liverpool Man u etc on the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mprobert Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Argue against that. Easy now Wes, why would you want people to argue with you? I was just alluding to the fact that lots of posters call the team sh1te and have a pop at just about every player and everyone else they can think of (you don't have to look too far to see that) whereas in reality, without a white knight supporter willing to donate a few millions, we have to make the best of what we have and that is largely down to the development of young players (as opposed to recycling old journeymen). They should have our support. Many of them are very talented but inexperienced and lacking in confidence. That will take time to achieve but will happen quicker with our backing rather than to a backdrop of boos, snipes on the forum (God forbid any of the team should actually read any of this stuff) and negative chanting. So to hear people from other clubs, professionals not just other supporters, saying how well the team is playing is something to be pleased about - isnt it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbob40 Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 West Brom played good football and got out of this division and this has to be 200% better than last year's Saitns team. Tuesday night's football was sublime at times and we made Cov look pedestrain. We were unlucky and deserved more. Once we get the new bloke/a fit Svensson in at CB the defence will improve a hell of a lot. Then its just the small question of scoring goals. I think JP is doing a very good job with little or no resources. He deserves our support as do the team. Grumpy stay away fairweather fans should go and buy Chelsea TV and shut the **** up. .....IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 West Brom played good football and got out of this division and this has to be 200% better than last year's Saitns team. Tuesday night's football was sublime at times and we made Cov look pedestrain. We were unlucky and deserved more. Once we get the new bloke/a fit Svensson in at CB the defence will improve a hell of a lot. Then its just the small question of scoring goals. I think JP is doing a very good job with little or no resources. He deserves our support as do the team. Grumpy stay away fairweather fans should go and buy Chelsea TV and shut the **** up. .....IMHO. fair play as that's what I think as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini_me Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 I was thinking of something very similar. My analogy was going on a blind date set up by a close friend, only to be met by a big, fat, ugly munter. The next day you tell your friend the blind date had a lovely personality. You would never do that tho eh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 I was thinking of something very similar. My analogy was going on a blind date set up by a close friend, only to be met by a big, fat, ugly munter. The next day you tell your friend the blind date had a lovely personality. Until the League start awarding points for pretty play or completed passes, methinks we should stick to gaining points the orthodox way (i.e. scoring and winning, or at least drawing).I would put it differently, bit I would wouldn't I steve!! you go out with the most gorgeous woman, but she doesnt do it until the wedding night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 I think JP is doing a very good job with little or no resources. The thing is, when he took the job he did have the resourses (Davies, Safri, Saganowski, Rasiak, John etc.) One by one these have been taken away from him by either Lowe, Wilde, Barclay's Bank or by his own decision. He has replaced some of them with good players like Cork and Schneiderlin but the fundamentable positions at the back and up front remain very weak. A fit Svensson (I wish) would help and I hope Alex Pearce doesn't turn out to be Ian Pierce (but as I said on another thread, IMO another 19 year old is not what we need in the centre of defence). However, plugging the gaps at the back is one thing. I just do not know where the goals are going to come from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Its like being told your a really nice bloke but crap in bed really though isn't it Women like a lot of movement around the box...it's only a man that sees the importance in shooting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Women like a lot of movement around the box...it's only a man that sees the importance in shooting... its not always easy on a greasy surface though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 its not always easy on a greasy surface though Its important to have a good groundsman that makes sure the grass is cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy Nutkins Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Its important to have a good groundsman that makes sure the grass is cut. Aye makes it a lot easier to slot home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Its important to have a good groundsman that makes sure the grass is cut.depends what time of the month though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Also enjoy seeing a screaming shot from outside the box myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 "The former-Fulham manager Chris Coleman said, "Southampton passed the ball around as well as anyone in the league. You can see the Dutch mentality that has been brought to them by their manager. They play without fear. For the first 15 minutes at the Ricoh we couldn't get the ball off them. I admire Southampton for how they try to play. A lot of the football in this division is physical and it's all about long balls and second balls, but they're not like that and for me they are the best passing team in the league." http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=10818 Surely even TSW can't turn that one into a negative.....can we....? I do agree that we are the best pasing team in the CCC ........ ....... every other team sems to pass right through us and score a shedfull ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Easy now Wes, why would you want people to argue with you? I was just alluding to the fact that lots of posters call the team sh1te and have a pop at just about every player and everyone else they can think of (you don't have to look too far to see that) whereas in reality, without a white knight supporter willing to donate a few millions, we have to make the best of what we have and that is largely down to the development of young players (as opposed to recycling old journeymen). They should have our support. Many of them are very talented but inexperienced and lacking in confidence. That will take time to achieve but will happen quicker with our backing rather than to a backdrop of boos, snipes on the forum (God forbid any of the team should actually read any of this stuff) and negative chanting. So to hear people from other clubs, professionals not just other supporters, saying how well the team is playing is something to be pleased about - isnt it? This being a forum, it is entirely appropriate that there are many diverse opinions, so I would encourage argument and debate; pretty dull with everybody agreeing with everything everybody said. If anybody is critical of any player, the more intelligent posters will give a reason for that opinion and that opinion might be challenged by others who do not share it, which is what it is all about. Sometimes there are generalities about sections of the team, such as "our defence is crap", "our strikers couldn't score in a brothel" and I have some sympathy with those generalities and statistically it is evident that we are not scoring enough and at the same time conceding too many. But I challenge you to find many who would argue that the midfield do not generally play decent passing football. Even on this thread I don't see much argument about our ability to play a good passing game. Having identified where our weaknesses lie, is it surprising that passionate fans will criticise those who they feel are responsible for those attacking or defensive frailties and haven't addressed them sooner (Pearce), or exacerbated them (John)? To your last sentence, yes, it is always nice to hear people praising aspects of our team, but being a cynic I tend to agree with the opinion that Coleman and other managers who have done that might do so for selfish reasons, possibly as an excuse for not beating us, or more perversely because they realise it doesn't do them any harm should they wish to get a job here in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 depends what time of the month though There's no point to it if the pitch is waterlogged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 There's no point to it if the pitch is waterlogged. I dont do showers and so its an early bath for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jez Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 I was thinking of something very similar. My analogy was going on a blind date set up by a close friend, only to be met by a big, fat, ugly munter. The next day you tell your friend the blind date had a lovely personality. Until the League start awarding points for pretty play or completed passes, methinks we should stick to gaining points the orthodox way (i.e. scoring and winning, or at least drawing). I wouldn't be telling my friend she had a lovely personality, I would be hunting down my 'close friend' :smt117 that set up the date and pummelling him! :smt021 By the way, we did draw.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Its like being told your a really nice bloke but crap in bed really though isn't it More like being told you are a really nice bloke but that she just wants to be friends We dont ever get to shoot our load ( into the net) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mprobert Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 Fair enough Wes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 31 October, 2008 Share Posted 31 October, 2008 How about a new song/chant tomorrow at Deepdale? "We've got the best passing side in the league" "It's just like watching Crewe" "Jan and Woopert's total football experiment" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 November, 2008 Share Posted 1 November, 2008 No it's not. It shows our boys have real potential. No-one's pretending it's all going smoothly so far, but i don't see why that's a good reason for this forum to be so ****ing negative about everything. I'm off to read saintslist on my email. Bit more productive. we have heard this before...how many times did other managers say we were the best they had played (after they took points off us of course) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 1 November, 2008 Share Posted 1 November, 2008 wonder if Coleman had been into see JP before the game in his room and inhaled some of JP's herbal essences Best passing side in the league. Is playing long ball really counted as passing? To be fair though Coventry punted it up field just as much as we did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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