Does Cortese Still Pick the Team?

[Dig Dig]

Well..... does he?

[westmidlandsaint]

No.....

[Dig Dig]

Thanks.....

[paulwantsapint]

To be honest if the team keep performing like they have recently I don't care if the car park attendants/burger van workers pick the team

[lloydie]

Sh*t thread.

[Matthew Le God]

Does Cortese Still Pick the Team?

 

Well..... does he?

 

Do you have even the slightest shred of evidence he ever has?

 

Thread ends.

[Dig Dig]

Listen Lloyd, it was all the range a few months ago to suggest that Cortese was picking the team, interesting to hear if anyone still believes this. So keep your stinky registered user comments to yourself.

[Dig Dig]

Do you have even the slightest shred of evidence he ever has?

 

Thread ends.

 

Matthew Le Tissier and Francis Benali on Soccer Saturday were both saying that they have heard that there is 'interference from above' re team selection when we were under Adkins.

[Saint Garrett]

On a side note, I was watching Goals on Sunday yesterday and Brian Mcdermott was on it.

 

He said that he wasn't expecting to be sacked when he was asked to go in at 3pm on the monday for a meeting and was expecting it just to be a discussion about who was going to be in the team for the Man Utd game. Thought it was a bit odd...

[Crab Lungs]

Matthew Le Tissier and Francis Benali on Soccer Saturday were both saying that they have heard that there is 'interference from above' re team selection when we were under Adkins.

 

I'd imagine that was Cortese gently reminding him that we have Artur Boruc kicking his heels in reserve...

[saints_is_the_south]

On a side note, I was watching Goals on Sunday yesterday and Brian Mcdermott was on it.

 

He said that he wasn't expecting to be sacked when he was asked to go in at 3pm on the monday for a meeting and was expecting it just to be a discussion about who was going to be in the team for the Man Utd game. Thought it was a bit odd...

 

Yeah I found that a bit weird too.

[captainchris]

**** thread

[VectisSaint]

Well..... does he?

No, he has evidently delegated the task to the committee members of the Cult of Cortese.

[shurlock]

Maybe our ITKers can tell us....

[kpturner]

Matthew Le Tissier and Francis Benali on Soccer Saturday were both saying that they have heard that there is 'interference from above' re team selection when we were under Adkins.

 

I have a lot of time for both guys but I would take their negative comments about the chairman with a pinch of salt. They are not exactly objective.

 

...and in answer to to the OP - no!

[Barry Sanchez]

Has less of an influence but still has some I would say.

[niceandfriendly]

He picks the team when we're losing and it's all his fault, but when we're doing well oooh no he doesn't pick the team. But you just wait until we lose!! Then we know nasty nic will have been at work.

[Barry Sanchez]

I have a lot of time for both guys but I would take their negative comments about the chairman with a pinch of salt. They are not exactly objective.

 

...and in answer to to the OP - no!

 

You take their comments with a pinch of salt as they are not objective? What about an element of truth?

[kpturner]

You take their comments with a pinch of salt as they are not objective? What about an element of truth?

 

What about it?

[Bearsy]

On a side note, I was watching Goals on Sunday yesterday and Brian Mcdermott was on it.

 

He said that he wasn't expecting to be sacked when he was asked to go in at 3pm on the monday for a meeting and was expecting it just to be a discussion about who was going to be in the team for the Man Utd game. Thought it was a bit odd...

 

Why is that odd G? I i was football chairman I'd be wanting to know bout managers plans in advance so i could decide if he was bell end needing the ole sack.

[Barry Sanchez]

What about it?

 

So in short you only take on board what you class as objective regardless of truth? So in theory someone could say to you

 

"The invaders are over there and are about to break through our defences!"

"I dont need to know that, give me something to work with?"

[Saint Charlie]

Valid question, and overdue comeback post for the OP.

 

Where had you been? Banned?

[kpturner]

So in short you only take on board what you class as objective regardless of truth? So in theory someone could say to you

 

"The invaders are over there and are about to break through our defences!"

"I dont need to know that, give me something to work with?"

 

Yes of course. Fantastic (over) analysis and a wonderfully illustrative example to boot

[swannymere]

If he is picking the team i hope he's deducting some of the managers wages.

[Miltonroader07]

Do you have even the slightest shred of evidence he ever has?

 

Thread ends.

 

Yeah got to agree,

[70's Mike]

and the point of this thread is ???????????????????

[Dig Dig]

and the point of this thread is ???????????????????

 

Does Cortese pick the team? Clue is in the thread title

[70's Mike]

Does Cortese pick the team? Clue is in the thread title

 

which imo is a stupid question that no one on here can answer

[Wopper]

Who cares ?

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Listen Lloyd, it was all the range a few months ago to suggest that Cortese was picking the team, interesting to hear if anyone still believes this. So keep your stinky registered user comments to yourself.

 

Who ever said he did? Be interesting to know.

[ottery st mary]

Just spoken to Uncle Nic and he states that NA will continue picking the side until the end of the season...

 

Should be interesting selection for the Reading game.

 

 

He also said..... you can believe that as much as you believe the shiiite, that some of the AAARRRRSOLES on this forum or the other tosssers who want to cause trouble at Saints.

 

 

COYS

 

 

 

Now Rupert...that was a different storeeee:p...Tracksuit , Clip board ,chalk board, abacus to keep score of the goals..

Edited 1 April, 2013 by ottery st mary

[Glasgow_Saint]

Remember the "Guly must play 15 minutes" rumour

[ottery st mary]

Or the instructions he gave NA.....that King Artur plays every game unless he feels dizzy at any time....

 

Or he would send him out to Reading:D

[ToreSF]

Has less of an influence but still has some I would say.

 

You are priceless! Based on what?

[richardc]

if you have ever watched that documentary about QPR then nutter chairman definitely influence team selections including ringing the manager during games to influence substitutions. The manager was summoned pretty much after every defeat to justify team selections.

 

Not that I'm suggesting our chairman is a nutter;)

[Saint Without a Halo]

if he does he is doing a good job then

[The Kraken]

I've heard that Cortese does still pick the team, but only for midweek games and Sunday kick-offs. The Chelsea game was all Pochettino's work. The plan is to integrate MP into the job gradually, so that by next November or December Cortese will only pick the team for one-off games of his choosing.

[Barry Sanchez]

You are priceless! Based on what?

 

Based on the fact he signed Ramirez, based on the fact he purchased Mayuka, based on the fact he bought Guly, I would say its a safe bet to say he has some influence on the first team, not so much now but when Adkins was in charge.

[CB Saint]

Matthew Le Tissier and Francis Benali on Soccer Saturday were both saying that they have heard that there is 'interference from above' re team selection when we were under Adkins.

 

That was probably when adkins was insisting on selecting gazza over boruc. I'd bloody interfere too.

[The Kraken]

When we played Sunderland, and Mayuka suddenly was chosen to play up front. Now THAT was a completely bizarre selection that raises the odd question or two for me.

[Saint Charlie]

When we played Sunderland, and Mayuka suddenly was chosen to play up front. Now THAT was a completely bizarre selection that raises the odd question or two for me.

 

NA said he had been on fire in training and Sunderlands CB pairing was very slow. He didnt do a bad job either, no service in that game to him or RL.

[Saint Without a Halo]

Based on the fact he signed Ramirez, based on the fact he purchased Mayuka, based on the fact he bought Guly, I would say its a safe bet to say he has some influence on the first team, not so much now but when Adkins was in charge.

 

So why has he formed a Transfer committee if he intended to go about buying players on a whim? surely he wouldn't need to given he effectively has the owning families power of attorney to do what he feels is right for them!

 

The fact he formed one tells me he recognises he is not qualified himself and needs good advice!

Edited 1 April, 2013 by Saint Without a Halo

[The Kraken]

NA said he had been on fire in training and Sunderlands CB pairing was very slow. He didnt do a bad job either, no service in that game to him or RL.

 

I must have watched a different game, he was absolutely appalling and achieved nothing, leading to him getting subbed for Steve de Ridder after less than an hour.

[The Kraken]

So why has he formed a Transfer committee if he intended to go about buying players on a whim? surely he wouldn't need to given he effectively has the Owning families power of attorney to do what we feels is right for them!

 

The fact he formed one tells me he recognises he is not qualified himself and needs good advice!

 

Adkins said at the time that he knew very little about Ramirez and the deal that was being done to get him, indicating he'd had no input in the selection of the player. So its not exactly unknown for the committee to have made player choices over the manager's head. Nor with the previous regime either.

[eurosaint]

Listen Lloyd, it was all the range a few months ago to suggest that Cortese was picking the team, interesting to hear if anyone still believes this. So keep your stinky registered user comments to yourself.

 

Was that the kitchen range or the driving range ??

[VectisSaint]

Adkins said at the time that he knew very little about Ramirez and the deal that was being done to get him, indicating he'd had no input in the selection of the player. So its not exactly unknown for the committee to have made player choices over the manager's head. Nor with the previous regime either.

There is a world of difference between going and finding a player of the type that the manager in discussions with the transfer committee has indicated would be good, and choosing the team on a weekly basis. All clubs do the former. I don't think you can draw the conclusion you have from the comments Adkins made, just that he knew little about the specific player, whether he knew anything about the deal itself is irrelevant.

[The Kraken]

There is a world of difference between going and finding a player of the type that the manager in discussions with the transfer committee has indicated would be good, and choosing the team on a weekly basis. All clubs do the former. I don't think you can draw the conclusion you have from the comments Adkins made, just that he knew little about the specific player, whether he knew anything about the deal itself is irrelevant.

 

Actually I think I can draw that conclusion. Cortese/Reed were in negotitations for Ramirez and Adkins plainly knew nothing about the player early on, or about the state of the transfer. His comments were something like "from the sounds of it he's a good player"; he'd quite obviously not been party to any detailed analysis whatsoever.

 

I don't know why some people think that's an attack on the club that they have to defend. Lowe brought in Crouch and Niemi over his managers' heads, so it can work. Strachan didn't want Niemi (think he wanted Craig Gordon) but Lowe refused and got his man. It happens, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. But its fair game to criticise when it doesn't work, just as one would citicise a manager for a poor signing.

[Greenridge]

As Guly has been conspicuous by his absence around the 75 minute mark I think we can safely assume he's no longer picking the team. Or may be he is.

[david in sweden]

Historically.....there are many cases of Chairman .." buying a player " without consulting his manager....

I recall Gordon Strachan arriving at the same time as Agustin Delgado..and when asked about the signing said (politely)....." it was a done deal when I'd arrived ". The yoghurt quote came later.

 

Although, there are disputes about exactly who we are speaking about?.....it seems that several of our summer signings were made by " the Committee " and without reference to NA.

If we assume that we "sourced " players who would" fit our formation," then I'm sure NC would have asked NA why he wasn't using player A, B or C. ...whilst NA persisted with his " own favourites".

 

The "enforced " signing of Boruc was long overdue, and I still cannot understand why NA persisted with Gazzaniga when it was obvious to many that he was nowhere near the "real thing ".

[Sour Mash]

I'd suggest that there is still influence from above, the inclusion of JWP as an inapropriate sub at times suggests there is pressure to get as many academy products into the first team as possible. There is probably more harmony now though, as MP has been picked to specifically play a certain way.