S-Clarke Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Why haven't we signed anyone yet FFS? We don't even know who we're playing next year, but we sitll haven't signed anyone FFS! good comedy posts i've just caught up on for today. Back on topic, Douglas is a good shout - although correct me if I'm wrong, is he a bit injury prone? He was close to WHU last summer, but they went with James Collins instead......might be thinking of someone else though, but there's obviously a reason they've not renewed his contract...as he's not a bad player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsCorner Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Douglas Franco Texeira from Twente - 6ft 4 centre back with pace - a Brazilian with a Dutch passport - out of contrct and on a free transfer Pretty sure he's signed for Kuban Krasnodar already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Douglas = Extremely over-rated. He was rubbish when I saw him this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Spurs bid 12M for Nainggolan according to Tancredi Palmeri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Spurs bid 12M for Nainggolan according to Tancredi Palmeri Yeah he said the other day that we havent had an interest in him this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Yeah he said the other day that we havent had an interest in him this window. Ah ok, hadn't seen that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Felipe Santana is of a similar mold to Silva. Although seems unlikely he would leave Dortmund despite not being a regular starter due to Hummels and Subotic. I'll tell you what, that Hummels is a ****ing player. I don't think I've seen a centre back better than him last season. Obviously he's a non starter, but I hope one day I get to see a player like him at centre back for us, before they have been snapped up perhaps, even if its just for a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Ah ok, hadn't seen that. No worries, thanks for posting that snippet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Back on the Astori front, he's been at fault for both of Italy's goals conceded tonight. They drew with Haiti 2-2. As said above, the fella seems pretty error-prone. Do we really want him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Back on the Astori front, he's been at fault for both of Italy's goals conceded tonight. They drew with Haiti 2-2. As said above, the fella seems pretty error-prone. Do we really want him? Brings the price down. He is the best CB in central Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Let's judge a player on one game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 11 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Thought Glasgow predicted a signing Monday or Tuesday? Or did he say later in the week? Deal is done mate..... contracts signed, price agreed ect ect just with the club/ NC now and there/his prerogative to decide when to announce. May hold until second (v.close btw) target signs and announce double or hold until kit launch? Dont panic, alot happening behind scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 11 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Let's judge a player on one game. classis SWF joeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsCorner Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Felipe Santana has already signed for Schalke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Let's judge a player on one game. I was referring to this article that I mentioned previous to the game today (see above), which highlights Astori and Hoovield as the top 2 error-prone defenders in the top 5 European leagues. http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/i8p0b6r00u69gbekopyj6g/Show/Player-Focus-Error-Prone-Outfielders Decent concentration levels surely a must for any prospective CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 I was referring to this article that I mentioned previous to the game today (see above), which highlights Astori and Hoovield as the top 2 error-prone defenders in the top 5 European leagues. http://www.whoscored.com/Blog/i8p0b6r00u69gbekopyj6g/Show/Player-Focus-Error-Prone-Outfielders Decent concentration levels surely a must for any prospective CB. Most of the errors cited came in one game. In total it was three poor games one of which was against inter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Harsh on Jos given his improvement. Plus, the most error prone are those in the worst defences. Might not be the most glaring individual error, but the Wigan, QPR and Reading defence all put in some absolute shocking performances at times. Jos was part of a fairly solid defence this year at least. Astori can't be that bad surely? Italian international alongside some of the best defenders in the world. Individual mistakes cost us badly last year. I remember Gary Nev's analysis of our defence showing that collectively our positioning and shape was actually very good, but we were let down repeatedly by individual gaffes especially during the first third of the season. Given Astori's (seeming) propensity for the odd blooper, just thinking we might want a defender who can remain switched on for the whole ninety minutes. He'll probably prove me entirely wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 Individual mistakes cost us badly last year. I remember Gary Nev's analysis of our defence showing that collectively our positioning and shape was actually very good, but we were let down repeatedly by individual gaffes especially during the first third of the season. Given Astori's (seeming) propensity for the odd blooper, just thinking we might want a defender who can remain switched on for the whole ninety minutes. He'll probably prove me entirely wrong. AC Milan wouldn't be after him, and nor would Italy play him, if he was as susceptible to individual errors as you'd have us believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 11 June, 2013 Share Posted 11 June, 2013 AC Milan wouldn't be after him, and nor would Italy play him, if he was as susceptible to individual errors as you'd have us believe. Well the AC Milan link is just media speculation and I think he won his third or fourth cap tonight against the mighty Haiti. Yes, great that he is even being picked for the Azzurri but not convinced that is proof enough of him being the perfect fit for our defence. Just my tuppence worth, brah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Most of the errors cited came in one game. In total it was three poor games one of which was against inter. Don't know what Inter have got to do with it, they were utter ****e last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Don't know what Inter have got to do with it, they were utter ****e last year. errr maybe because they are a big club, can attract decent players and because they were shyte last year they are thinking they might go after some quality to improve things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 errr maybe because they are a big club, can attract decent players and because they were shyte last year they are thinking they might go after some quality to improve things. Errr, he's talking about the fact he made an error against Inter, thinking it's a bit of an excuse making an error against a good team, when they weren't. You're better to read the previous posts before responding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Errr, he's talking about the fact he made an error against Inter, thinking it's a bit of an excuse making an error against a good team, when they weren't. You're better to read the previous posts before responding. Inter have decent players who have a bit of magic in them even if they had a poor season. Regardless it was three poor games yet he has been deemed good enough to play at the back for Italy and is being chased by bigger clubs than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 So we're after defenders that never make mistakes now? Could be challenging... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Inter have decent players who have a bit of magic in them even if they had a poor season. Regardless it was three poor games yet he has been deemed good enough to play at the back for Italy and is being chased by bigger clubs than us. Believe me, I'm not in the camp that thinks we shouldn't sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 all defenders (players) make mistakes in games, it's just that some get punished and some don't. I'm not sure its wise to read much into individual errors. Is a miskicked clearance leading to a goal any worse than a lazy player not getting back to even attempt make that clearance? Which of the two circumstances will be recorded as an individual error? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 So we're after defenders that never make mistakes now? Could be challenging... What we need is a powerful, strong, dominante centre half who is great in the air, fast and never makes mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max_saints Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 What we need is a powerful, strong, dominante centre half who is great in the air, fast and never makes mistakes. the man of steel, superman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashby Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 What we need is a powerful, strong, dominante centre half who is great in the air, fast and never makes mistakes. Plus plays at international level and has champions league experience and is committed to the club 150%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Could this CB throw in about 10-15 goals per season as the icing on the cake.. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2013 What we need is a powerful, strong, dominante centre half who is great in the air, fast and never makes mistakes. the man of steel, superman? Plus plays at international level and has champions league experience and is committed to the club 150%. Could this CB throw in about 10-15 goals per season as the icing on the cake.. COYS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 But preferably not a thuggish racist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Author Share Posted 12 June, 2013 But preferably not a thuggish racist http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18827915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Terry isn't exactly blessed with pace these days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18827915 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/sep/27/john-terry-verdict-chelsea-guilty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveygwyatt Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 I Know transfer rumours web site has less truth than a Neil Allen tweet, but saw the Name Micah Richards on there. He will need 1st team football if he wants to go to brazil next summer. Could we afford him ? Could we get him ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Not at our club please http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1247408/John-Terry-Wayne-Bridges-girlfriend-Vanessa-Perroncel-pregnant--England-captain-arranged-abortion.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 I Know transfer rumours web site has less truth than a Neil Allen tweet, but saw the Name Micah Richards on there. He will need 1st team football if he wants to go to brazil next summer. Could we afford him ? Could we get him ? Difficult to say. The thing about him is, that although he is excellent defensively, his positional play is very poor and much of his last ditch challenges come as a result of him being dreadfully out of position. There is a reason that Capello constantly ignored him, as did Mancini. However, Poch was a CB, and may be able to instill some sort of positional awareness (as would playing with a dominant CB - not that we have one of those). He certainly has all the other attributes to be a top CB. £8m and £50k per week I would have said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 All that goes out the window when you consider they instead picked - Glen Johnson! Wasn't Glen Johnson the 3rd best RB in Europe last Season or something like that? Think I saw that on Whoscored.com. Johnson was excellent last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 I would love us to go after young Danish defender Jores Okore...he would be superb...otherwise Jean-Armel Kana-Biyik from Rennes fits the bill of a young dominating quick centre half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 I would love us to go after young Danish defender Jores Okore...he would be superb.. Have you seen him play or just going on the fact he is pretty decent on fm13 decide this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 TBF, quite a few 'FM Legends' turn out to be very good players. We should go for this kid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Burdisso Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 TBF, quite a few 'FM Legends' turn out to be very good players. We should go for this kid. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillermo_Burdisso Loads of them in fact. Personally, I think we should sign Wellington Nem based on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Okore is interesting Villa. Hull make 4m bid for Gary Hooper Source: SSN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Okore is interesting Villa. Hull make 4m bid for Gary Hooper Source: SSN £4m is well below what would be expected by Celtic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 He's only got 1 year left on his contract hasn't he? Might have to accept less than they want to get some money for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 TBF, quite a few 'FM Legends' turn out to be very good players. Speaking of which, I saw Fredy Guarin linked with Spurs the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lallana's Left Peg Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 Mate saw Saints speaking with a Spanish player in De Vere Grand Harbour last week and a translator and member of the FA was also there. I have no idea if this is true or not but this guy doesn't support Saints and spends a lot of time in the hotel as he uses it as his base when he goes on cruises etc. And yes, I found it strange that there would need to be a member of the FA there too but who knows what goes on these days. He said the translator was a fit female. Treat with suspicion and as a rumour but he thinks the guy he saw looked like Victor Ruiz after a quick google. There you go, a messy rumour. I saw the guy that e-mailed me this story last night and I managed to get something a bit more solid out of him. There were three people in the meeting - the suspected player, the translator, and a guy from Southampton (not the FA). No-one else - no agents, other club officials, family or anything like that. The was lots of cordial chat and he 100% remembers the Saints guy telling the player (through the translator) that whatever papers he signed at that meeting would be registered with the FA first thing the following day. He is pretty sure the Spanish guy is a player as he looked far too young to be a coach or anything like that. That is all he said - he lost interest in my questions after that. So it just gets a bit more confusing. I would find it surprising that anything would be signed in public like that if it was a player, especially if his agent wasn't present. It is perhaps more likely it could be an agent instead of a player there, or maybe even someone else joining the club in a non-playing role (another coach or something) but the guy I spoke with seemed sure it was a player, which seems far fetched to me. So nothing really conclusive (or even interesting) there but perhaps clears up a few things. Maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 I Know transfer rumours web site has less truth than a Neil Allen tweet, but saw the Name Micah Richards on there. He will need 1st team football if he wants to go to brazil next summer. Could we afford him ? Could we get him ? Difficult to say. The thing about him is, that although he is excellent defensively, his positional play is very poor and much of his last ditch challenges come as a result of him being dreadfully out of position. There is a reason that Capello constantly ignored him, as did Mancini. However, Poch was a CB, and may be able to instill some sort of positional awareness (as would playing with a dominant CB - not that we have one of those). He certainly has all the other attributes to be a top CB. £8m and £50k per week I would have said. Signed a new contract at City 2 weeks ago http://metro.co.uk/2013/06/01/manchester-city-confirm-micah-richards-and-pablo-zabaleta-to-sign-new-contracts-3824616/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 12 June, 2013 Share Posted 12 June, 2013 I believe Turkish said 'fast', John Terry is many things but he is not fast, although he does prove that top level defenders don't need to be quick. Easily take JT the centre-back, if JT the man did come with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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