Dig Dig Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Thats because its a vacuous dull question which you repeat ad nauseam. Heres how it would go - I list a number of Chairmen from various clubs who I think have done okay - some things well some things poorly, and then you pick one or two from the list and you argue the toss about the relative merits of somebody you know very little about and have never met. I'd rather be drowning puppies. Who has done an excellent job then? Surely you can answer that? By your standards, pretty much everyone would have done an average job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 how did yo do that bob? I edit post then you come back 2 hours later with original datas! Is witchcrafts? I has the voodoo? who do? I do!! Actually I received your original reply by email then noticed you'd edited your reply on the forum so I thought I'd shame you, yo.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Thats because its a vacuous dull question which you repeat ad nauseam. Heres how it would go - I list a number of Chairmen from various clubs who I think have done okay - some things well some things poorly, and then you pick one or two from the list and you argue the toss about the relative merits of somebody you know very little about and have never met. I'd rather be drowning puppies. Personally I wonder if he keeps asking this vacous dull question as you keep saying that NC has done an average job like X amounts of average CEO's who you cannot name or quantify. You also keep ignoring the fact that from a primary role POV he has done exceptionally well, both on and off the pitch in a footballing sense and basically ignore this in order to talk absolute dross about the fact he hasnt got the right pastry around his sausage rolls. There isnt really much point discussing anything with Docker P either, looking at his recent posts gives you an insight of his perspective in this arguement and seemingly he carries the same agenda as yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Shhh. This is a secret so don't tell everyone. Maybe QPR are going down because they didn't play as good football as everyone else. And could that be because the people running QPR made poor managerial appointments and poor player recruitment? Something Cortese has done very well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Who has done an excellent job then? Surely you can answer that? By your standards, pretty much everyone would have done an average job. Using Timothy's standards, I have done a little bit of research. It turns out both Bolton and Blackburn have some of the best pies in English football atm and at reasonable prices, Im not sure how they stack up from a hospitality POV though, obviously this is a vitaly important aspect to ANY top flight sporting outlet and matters more than anything else. Obviously they arent that good at football and in BBurns case the sporting side of the club is in an absolute shambles but lets face it thats not really a priority and their pies are basically proving what a fantastic CEO Shebby is, one I would be proud to have if that underachieving devil worshipper NC finally leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintroyt Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 this whole thread seems based on a press report with no foundation at all if this was a story, it would have been all over sky sports today,just a bit of lazy paper crap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I has the voodoo? who do? I do!! Actually I received your original reply by email then noticed you'd edited your reply on the forum so I thought I'd shame you, yo.. who emails you my postings! And more important why is they doing this! Do they do it for all my postings or just the mysogonist ones? Either way must be v.annoying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 who emails you my postings! And more important why is they doing this! Do they do it for all my postings or just the mysogonist ones? Either way must be v.annoying! misogynist Bearsy; no need for Ys everywhere.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 (edited) Personally I wonder if he keeps asking this vacous dull question as you keep saying that NC has done an average job like X amounts of average CEO's who you cannot name or quantify. You also keep ignoring the fact that from a primary role POV he has done exceptionally well, both on and off the pitch in a footballing sense and basically ignore this in order to talk absolute dross about the fact he hasnt got the right pastry around his sausage rolls. There isnt really much point discussing anything with Docker P either, looking at his recent posts gives you an insight of his perspective in this argument and seemingly he carries the same agenda as yourself. Its up to you if you want to attribute all the plaudits for the teams performance the last few years to Cortese. Its weird, buts it up to you. Most people don't have Delia down as personally responsible for promotion, but each to their own. IMO NA got Saints promoted, largely despite and not because of Cortese's presence. Ramirez, Mayuka, Forren - £20m spent on players who barely played in a season where we were desperate for more quality and nearly got relegated. National and local press alienated. Contractors walking off site at Staplewood. A string of staff walking out. Long contracts given to players who are already nearly past it. To be frank Im embarrassed for you in your cult of personality worship. Edited 15 May, 2013 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Using Timothy's standards, I have done a little bit of research. It turns out both Bolton and Blackburn have some of the best pies in English football atm and at reasonable prices, Im not sure how they stack up from a hospitality POV though, obviously this is a vitaly important aspect to ANY top flight sporting outlet and matters more than anything else. Obviously they arent that good at football and in BBurns case the sporting side of the club is in an absolute shambles but lets face it thats not really a priority and their pies are basically proving what a fantastic CEO Shebby is, one I would be proud to have if that underachieving devil worshipper NC finally leaves. Thier local media relations are some of the best in the land and something we should be aspiring to really. Cortese could drag his average to poor fans rating up to good if he stopped focusing on what's happening on the pitch and focus more on people liking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 misogynist Bearsy; no need for Ys everywhere.. tks professor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 who emails you my postings! And more important why is they doing this! Do they do it for all my postings or just the mysogonist ones? Either way must be v.annoying! Ah, that's where the "subcribe to thread" option comes in handy, don't have to keep checking every 5 seconds if someone has decided to reply to something. I'm not stalking you Bears, not yet anyway, not until I've found that you *DO* actually **** in a wood.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Its up to you if you want to attribute all the plaudits for the teams performance the last few years to Cortese. Its weird, buts it up to you. Most people don't have Delia down as personally responsible for promotion, but each to their own. IMO NA got Saints promoted, largely despite and not because of Cortese's presence. Ramirez, Mayuka, Forren - £20m spent on players who barely played in a season where we were desperate for more quality and nearly got relegated. National and local press alienated. Contractors walking off site at Staplewood. A string of staff walking out. Long contracts given to players who are already nearly past it. To be frank Im embarrassed for you in your cult of personality worship. Lambert, Cork, Clyne, Puncheon, Yoshida, Rodriguez to name a few...players who have massively contributed to our success this season and in former seasons. All signed under Cortese. Strange that you would accuse others of only attributing on field success to Cortese when you only attribute our "bad" signings to him. Ramirez is a quality player btw. With each post on this subject, you look more and more like a mug pal. Maybe your little email exchange with the Liebherrs has gone to your head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 I seem to have missed this whole story somehow. So is there actually anything in this or just a few ifs and maybes with no quotes? FWIW, I hope to god he stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Its up to you if you want to attribute all the plaudits for the teams performance the last few years to Cortese. Its weird, buts it up to you. Most people don't have Delia down as personally responsible for promotion, but each to their own. IMO NA got Saints promoted, largely despite and not because of Cortese's presence. Ramirez, Mayuka, Forren - £20m spent on players who barely played in a season where we were desperate for more quality and nearly got relegated. National and local press alienated. Contractors walking off site at Staplewood. A string of staff walking out. Long contracts given to players who are already nearly past it. To be frank Im embarrassed for you in your cult of personality worship. I have not whitewashed over his little misdemeanors, in fact I know full well what he can be like having done work FOR Saints at Staplewood (which also places me in a decent position to know the goings on down there). I couldnt give a toss about the mail TBH, its an odeous little rag that only has itself to blame for being alienated, as per the national press, yup definate PR gaffe which embarrassed me at the time, still, he climbed down from that one. As per staff and contractors walking out, Im sure you can back that up right ? I know plenty of people that work there and are still working there despite the almost unbearable working conditions *sigh* We didnt really nearly get relegated did we ? And it was always going to be a fight. As for the player recruitment, Mayuka aside Im happy, Ramirez has quality as does Forren from what I hear, plus Boruc, Davis, J Rod, Clyne and Yoshi were not bad but lets ignore them as they dont support the arguement do they ?! As per promotion, NC got rid of Pardew who no longer wanted to be here, hired NA, gave him certain players to achieve his aims, lets face it, NA signings of N'Guessan and forte etc where hardly inspiring. Of course it isnt all about NC but looking at it from a whole he was the catalyst to where we are now, it wouldnt have evolved where it not for him, well, probably not. Hero worship ? No, I see plenty of bad points in his tenure, the whole NI incident was pathetic, but I am thankful he is here, no hidden agenda here, Ive seen first hand what sort of man he is, but also understand that his ambition and the fact he has achieved everything he has promised is rare. Personally I think you have a very serious issue, either that or your just not very bright, the fact you cannot see any good in what he achieved is madness and frankly I am embarrassed that I am still argueing with someone who has such a clear lack of perspective and is incapable of backing up an arguement. Personally I think your just trolling, as if you genuinely believe the carp you are writing on here then I suggest you look into more fitting sports, like knitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 With each post on this subject, you look more and more like a mug pal. Maybe your little email exchange with the Liebherrs has gone to your head I wonder if they thought it was some sort of care in the community initiative ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 he hasnt voted and wont name these other chairmen that are equal to NC in being average Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 this whole thread seems based on a press report with no foundation at all if this was a story, it would have been all over sky sports today,just a bit of lazy paper crap Don't ruin their fun with a sensible comment like this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 As a general rule, the more money a club has to spend, the better it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 As a general rule, the more money a club has to spend, the better it does. As long as it spends loads of it on good executives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Im confused Has it been confirmed that Batban is dell days and barry Sanchez is dune . also what is twenty twenty's alias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Im confused Has it been confirmed that Batban is dell days and barry Sanchez is dune . also what is twenty twenty's alias. again, what the hell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 that is such a delldays thing to say yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 IMO if we did not have a ruthless chairman like NC we would have kept NA and certainly gone down The. Club is moving forward and whilst some of the decisions he has made has been unfortunate, they have been made to make the club successful . I truly hope NC stays and takes us to glories we could only dream of 5 years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 IMO if we did not have a ruthless chairman like NC we would have kept NA and certainly gone down Obviously we would not have "certainly gone down". I'll file this alongside the rest of the consistent horsecra p you post on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 IMO if we did not have a ruthless chairman like NC we would have kept NA and certainly gone down The. Club is moving forward and whilst some of the decisions he has made has been unfortunate, they have been made to make the club successful . I truly hope NC stays and takes us to glories we could only dream of 5 years ago Absolute rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom8558 Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Obviously we would not have "certainly gone down". I'll file this alongside the rest of consistent horsecra p you post on this forum. Agreed. There's no way of knowing what would have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 IMO if we did not have a ruthless chairman like NC we would have kept NA and certainly gone down The. Club is moving forward and whilst some of the decisions he has made has been unfortunate, they have been made to make the club successful . I truly hope NC stays and takes us to glories we could only dream of 5 years ago Take you're head out of you're backside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 This is nothing more than a knob-waving contest between Cortese and the Liebherr estate. Whoever has the biggest knob will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 IMO if we did not have a ruthless chairman like NC we would have kept NA and certainly gone down The. Club is moving forward and whilst some of the decisions he has made has been unfortunate, they have been made to make the club successful . I truly hope NC stays and takes us to glories we could only dream of 5 years ago Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 There are two things poles apart, Cortese is a bloody difficult taskmaster and very demanding. He has done a very successful job here. You don't have to like him but I sure as hell appreciate where we are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 There are two things poles apart, Cortese is a bloody difficult taskmaster and very demanding. He has done a very successful job here. You don't have to like him but I sure as hell appreciate where we are now. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 This is nothing more than a knob-waving contest between Cortese and the Liebherr estate. Whoever has the biggest knob will win. In that case it isn't looking good for the Piedmontese Pygmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 In that case it isn't looking good for the Piedmontese Pygmy. these chairmen who are so average like NC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 these chairmen who are so average like NC? DD stop trying to be Jeremy Paxman, you haven't got the wherewithal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 DD stop trying to be Jeremy Paxman, you haven't got the wherewithal. have no idea what a DD is but do know that you are unable to answer, as you cant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 have no idea what a DD is hth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 This is nothing more than a knob-waving contest between Cortese and the Liebherr estate. Whoever has the biggest knob will win. If that's right then nc is gone. The liebherrs are massive, nc isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Lambert, Cork, Clyne, Puncheon, Yoshida, Rodriguez to name a few...players who have massively contributed to our success this season and in former seasons. All signed under Cortese. Strange that you would accuse others of only attributing on field success to Cortese when you only attribute our "bad" signings to him. Ramirez is a quality player btw. With each post on this subject, you look more and more like a mug pal. Maybe your little email exchange with the Liebherrs has gone to your head Oh yeah, that bs one he claims he had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 So aside from all the infighting and internet warrior crap on this thread does anyone have any more news on if NC is leaving or staying or whats going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 why is that, who bought in hughes, redknapp, sanctioned signing Samba for £10m on £100k a week wages I dont even think you are a saints fan as you have no idea that we had a fan on the board a few years back. his name is Leon Crouch and that worked out brilliantly Hew Jenkins was a lifelong Swansea fan before helping to save them before steering them through the leagues. Not bad for a man earning £200,000 a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 have no idea what a DD is but do know that you are unable to answer, as you cant This is classic, keep on asking. I think the problem is he can't even name another Chief Exec, let alone one who's done a great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Thier local media relations are some of the best in the land and something we should be aspiring to really. Cortese could drag his average to poor fans rating up to good if he stopped focusing on what's happening on the pitch and focus more on people liking him. Poor fan rating ? Check the poll results will you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 IMO if we did not have a ruthless chairman like NC we would have kept NA and certainly gone down The. Club is moving forward and whilst some of the decisions he has made has been unfortunate, they have been made to make the club successful . I truly hope NC stays and takes us to glories we could only dream of 5 years ago well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Who cares what he earns....if you are successful you earn the big bucks....I don't understand while people get so wound up by big earners. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 So aside from all the infighting and internet warrior crap on this thread does anyone have any more news on if NC is leaving or staying or whats going on? Behave yourself. I'm sure we've all learned a great deal about the situation from these 23 pages of solid gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Poor fan rating ? Check the poll results will you. Read the thread mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 DD stop trying to be Jeremy Paxman, you haven't got the wherewithal. Werewithal ? You couldnt have backed down any quicker earlier !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Werewithal ? You couldnt have backed down any quicker earlier !!! Its not a great likeness but the proportions are bang on. You should get three and pass a couple on to DD and Dig Dig for the Appreciation Club meets. http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CAPODIMONTE-CHARACTER-DOLL-BOY-4-BUST-CORTESE-/110104561161 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 15 May, 2013 Share Posted 15 May, 2013 Its not a great likeness but the proportions are bang on. You should get three and pass a couple on to DD and Dig Dig for the Appreciation Club meets. http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-CAPODIMONTE-CHARACTER-DOLL-BOY-4-BUST-CORTESE-/110104561161 You are just mugging yourself off pal. You were a forum nobody before this thread and will be after its gone. Absolutely clueless pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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