The Commodore Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 (edited) Sorry to put a dampner on the "the-we're-staying-up-celebrations-or-commiserations-if-you're-alpine". However, there's a lengthy article in the times football section page 14 that states that the club have been unable to reach an agreement to secure cortese's future for next season! The final sentence says. If he goes this summer it would leave a gaping hole that saints would find hard to fill! That would be a bummer! Jimmy D Edit: BBC Story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22510420 Edited 13 May, 2013 by Jimmy_D Add BBC link to OP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Cannot believe this to be true - Cortese IS Saints, so basically he can't reach an agreement with himself. RIIIIGHT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Link / scan ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Commodore Posted 13 May, 2013 Author Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Sorry, don't have the online version. Just reading it on train, so can't scant it. But it's from their lead football writer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiltshiresaint Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 It's behind a paywall, and at the bottom of this article, http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/sport/football/article3763094.ece It reads: Southampton should be feeling optimistic. Yesterday’s point away to Sunderland effectively removed the threat of relegation and performances since the appointment of Mauricio Pochettino as manager in January have pointed to good days ahead. However, there are issues in the boardroom. Nicola Cortese, the executive chairman, and the trust that owns the club have been unable to reach an agreement to secure the 44-year-old’s future at the club for next season. Cortese has driven Southampton’s revival from League One to the Premier League since he bought the club for Markus Liebherr, the late Swiss industrialist, four years ago. Cortese remade the club in his own image, making a few enemies but winning admiration from other top-flight owners. If he goes this summer, it would leave a gaping hole that Southampton would find hard to fill. [/Quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 he is the club. The owners have nothing to do with the running of it, apparently Just cant see how he cant secure his own services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 My understanding from a rumour with an equal probability of having as much substance as this one, was that if The Liebherrs decided to pull out, then Cortese would have others of equal stature to take over from them. To have any real validity, this story would have to come from either Cortese or the Liebherrs and I don't believe that either party would have spoken about this to anybody in the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Well, that's a bit worrying... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jam Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 he is the club. The owners have nothing to do with the running of it, apparently Just cant see how he cant secure his own services They'd most likely have to sign off on his salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Cannot believe this to be true - Cortese IS Saints, so basically he can't reach an agreement with himself. RIIIIGHT! No he isn't don't be so ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY-Z Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Maybe the trustees or cortese are using this to flush out interest from potential buyers? Maybe the trustees don't like cortese as much as Marcus did Maybe cortese doesn't like the trustees as much as he liked Marcus Maybe cortese wants more funds for a European push but the trustees aren't going to release more Maybe an agreement is very close but just needs a few tweaks Maybe cortese has a buyer lined up Maybe the trustees have a buyer lined up Maybe something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 It's a bit of journalist's (Tony Evans) speculation. 'Cortese and the trust that owns the club have been unable to reach an agreement to secure the 44-year old's future at the club for next season'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 He's really looked ****ed off over the past 6 games when the cameras have zoomed in on him during games. Maybe they're holding back on the Transfer Chest and unprepared to spend out more based on recent results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Maybe the trustees or cortese are using this to flush out interest from potential buyers? Maybe the trustees don't like cortese as much as Marcus did Maybe cortese doesn't like the trustees as much as he liked Marcus Maybe cortese wants more funds for a European push but the trustees aren't going to release more Maybe an agreement is very close but just needs a few tweaks Maybe cortese has a buyer lined up Maybe the trustees have a buyer lined up Maybe something else Maybe... (It's "Markus" btw ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Yeah. Let's look at this. Hi I want a new contract for next year. Well OK, have we guaranteed that we will be in the PL next season? Uh not yet. Well, why don't we wait until after the Sunderland game so we know what our income will be next year and then we can make the right offer. Yeah that's a good idea. I'll give you a call to set up a meeting on Monday then. = No deal agreed to keep him at Saints Damn fine Journalism there again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 This other piece of news can only mean Rupert Lowe is sniffing about hoping for a triumphant return http://www.growingbusiness.co.uk/envestors-leads-5-3m-investment-in-comparafinanza-it.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 This other piece of news can only mean Rupert Lowe is sniffing about hoping for a triumphant return http://www.growingbusiness.co.uk/envestors-leads-5-3m-investment-in-comparafinanza-it.html I wondered what stone he'd crawled under... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Tony Evans is a superb Sports editor and has unbelievable contacts. However having a contact as high up at Saints as to know about this would be something else considering our "closed shop" approach. Would be (personally) quite amusing if NC leaked it himself to get his pay signed off next season considering his history with the National Press though I seriously doubt that though. For the record basically Cortese can do no wrong with me, think he's been brilliant for a club and a major part of our progress up the leagues. Love his uncompromising attitude, seems like he'd fight for us under whatever circumstances. However.... There are already those on here that are saying this is completely made up, shoddy journalism etc. This story would have to have been double checked so it's true, the fact that Tony has put his name to it just confirms that even more. Hopefully it will be sorted quickly and quietly, which I have every faith it will be. Just like the players contracts we get sown up, on that note maybe Cortese is just holding out for a new watch and his contract to be reprinted on blue paper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Hopefully it will all be sorted. Goes against what the likes of Morgan et al have said when signing a contract about the plans that Nicola has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustonmyfeet Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 When he signs his new contract, will he be photographed shaking his own hand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 When he signs his new contract, will he be photographed shaking his own hand? He'll have a watch on both hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Hopefully it will all be sorted. Goes against what the likes of Morgan et al have said when signing a contract about the plans that Nicola has. Cortese's plans are irrelevant though if he and the owners can't agree terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 This season is the real one as well with a show of intent, if he goes he cant be truly judged as will players be sold as a guise and ruse as he has left, will players now not be bought for our European adventure as he has gone? A bit convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 5 year plan. can't see him not even doing 5 seasons. what do i know though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 If he leaves and Pochettino does badly next season, everyone will say it is because Cortese is not there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Some rather large assumptions being made about a throwaway comment at the bottom of a report. If it was an article in itself, maybe something to be concerned about, but even the reporter barely thinks it's news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 @NabilHassan79: Good line from my colleague @BenSmithBBC: 'Nicola Cortese is considering his position as #saintsfc chairman'. Story on BBC to follow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Well. Look on the bright side. Rupert's not up to much these days. Or failing that Trevor Birch has some pretty up to date experience in the role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 is this the beginning of the end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Would be nothing but a disaster if he leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 #prayfornicola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Would be nothing but a disaster if he leaves. ^this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Is the five year European plan now off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 As I thought, Tony's got this bang on by the looks of things. Seriously, don't dismiss stuff you see in papers purely because you don't like what you're hearing. The guys on The Times Sports desk double and triple check everything, especially something involving a "sensitive" character like Cortese and this is highly likely to have come from a very senior source at Saints or the Liebherr family/ organisation and confirmed by a 2nd senior source. I don't like the idea of of it but you can't ignore it. Interested to see the BBC article in a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Wave 105@wave105radio SPORT: We've just spoken to #SaintsFC. They're not making any comment on a report Nicola Cortese is "considering his position as chairman". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Alex Goring Crook@alex_crook Awaiting a response from @SouthamptonFC to claims Cortese considering quitting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Looks to be true then, weird. He's probably fallen out with the family!!! Not sure what this means for us. We'll find out just how financially secure we are, I guess. Why can't we just have a dull/boring pre-season for once? This is now going to dominate the next 10 weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 It would be a disaster if he went. Never dull being a Saints fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 So exactly who are "the trust that owns the club" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 My understanding from a rumour with an equal probability of having as much substance as this one, was that if The Liebherrs decided to pull out, then Cortese would have others of equal stature to take over from them. To have any real validity, this story would have to come from either Cortese or the Liebherrs and I don't believe that either party would have spoken about this to anybody in the media. You said the rumours of adkins being sacked were bul*s8it as well didnt you les, as well as the stories from Nixon about our transfer business. Your track record in seperating what is true and what is bulls8it isnt very good is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Tony Evans is a superb Sports editor and has unbelievable contacts. However having a contact as high up at Saints as to know about this would be something else considering our "closed shop" approach. Would be (personally) quite amusing if NC leaked it himself to get his pay signed off next season considering his history with the National Press though I seriously doubt that though. For the record basically Cortese can do no wrong with me, think he's been brilliant for a club and a major part of our progress up the leagues. Love his uncompromising attitude, seems like he'd fight for us under whatever circumstances. However.... There are already those on here that are saying this is completely made up, shoddy journalism etc. This story would have to have been double checked so it's true, the fact that Tony has put his name to it just confirms that even more. Hopefully it will be sorted quickly and quietly, which I have every faith it will be. Just like the players contracts we get sown up, on that note maybe Cortese is just holding out for a new watch and his contract to be reprinted on blue paper? Agree- reckon its close to the truth. Editors and leader writers who put their names to things have to be doubly sure their stories hold water as the reputational damage of getting things wrong is much greater for the paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Blimey,didn't see this coming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuncanRG Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Oh dear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marsdinho Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Would be nothing but a disaster if he leaves. 100% this.....It would be like 9/11 times a thousand !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Blimey,didn't see this coming! Nor me , but then neither did I see the coming of Pardew's or Adkins's sacking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 I hope this isn't true. Cortese is the single most important person at the club. He has got all the big decisions right, and hasn't really got much wrong at all. I personally think we should make our views about Cortese clear at the Stoke game. If we lose him, I'll fear for our future. Perhaps he has finally had enough of the petty anti-Cortese sniping that a tiny (but often load and boorish) minority of the fan-base seem to relish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 don't dismiss stuff you see in papers purely because you don't like what you're hearing. . That is what always happens on this forum. Who remembers the reaction when the Adkins sacking story first broke ha? Strange story this though, didn't see this coming at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Agree- reckon its close to the truth. Editors and leader writers who put their names to things have to be doubly sure their stories hold water as the reputational damage of getting things wrong is much greater for the paper. Absolutely true. Especially after being stung by going ahead with one of his staffers Qatari "Dream League" story a few months ago and his apology following on from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 Perhaps he has finally had enough of the petty anti-Cortese sniping that a tiny (but often load and boorish) minority of the fan-base seem to relish. Yes, this is most likely what's happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 13 May, 2013 Share Posted 13 May, 2013 not surprsed at all, sounds like he has been victim of workplace bullying for ages, hiding his spoons, refusing to sit next to him etc. I bet he has strong claims for constructive dismissal yo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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