Batman Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 In my mind he's already gone to be honest. I'm not all that fussed now. I get what you mean. If he does force a move, will make the club and more so, Ralph look stupid and a bit weak. Especially after that statements recently made (which were positive IMO) I hope we hold our nerve. If we don't, I hope we so a very good deal that would include chadli coming the other way and we have another CM in the building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 i was told today that Scott Sinclairs brother plays for us and is likely to be useful How have you only just found that out? Thought everyone knew that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 So..... Only a few weeks to spend the remaining 44m as suggested then. Gardos looks a decent player but ultimately not first choice IMO and it didnt sound overly positive regarding morgan What 44 million ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 This is the version I have heard. Rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 A lot of clubs have done lot of their transfer business already. Also unlike us no other team in the PL have lost 5 first team players. I know its not easy to sign players but as previously sad by others we should have had at least a couple of replacements lined up before we agreed to let all 5 go. This has been done to death. We are where we are so why not just accept the situation and see who comes in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 I get what you mean. If he does force a move, will make the club and more so, Ralph look stupid and a bit weak. Especially after that statements recently made (which were positive IMO) I hope we hold our nerve. If we don't, I hope we so a very good deal that would include chadli coming the other way and we have another CM in the building Agreed, I'd be happy with 25m + Chadli. We won't get that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 What 44 million ? Exactly, it wont be spent (90m - pelle+tadic = 70m - average wages (20m) leaves 50m - gardos fee) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakkoUK Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 This is the version I have heard. Any new snippet of information for today on potential signings? Or if in fact anything is to happen today or next few days? Would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Also unlike us no other team in the PL have lost 5 first team players Of course, this is tangible cobblers - even taking out the borderline cases the following sides have lost 5 players who regularly featured in their match day squads as often as the likes of Chambers or Osvaldo did, and sides like Man City and QPR have released far more fringe players too. Arsenal Lukasz Fabianski (Swansea City) Free Bacary Sagna (Manchester City) Free Nicklas Bendtner Released Chu Young Park Released Carl Jenkinson (West Ham United) Loan Chelsea Ashley Cole (Roma) Free Samuel Eto'o Released Frank Lampard (New York City) Free Demba Ba (Besiktas) Undisclosed Romelu Lukaku (Everton) £28m Manchester United Rio Ferdinand (QPR) Free Ryan Giggs Released Nemanja Vidic (Inter Milan) Free Alexander Buttner (Dynamo Moscow) Undisclosed Patrice Evra (Juventus) Undisclosed Sunderland Phil Bardsley (Stoke City) Free Craig Gardner (West Bromwich Albion) Free Carlos Cuellar Released Andrea Dossena Released Oscar Ustari Released David Vaughan Released Kieren Westwood Released Jack Colback (Newcastle United) Free Swansea Leroy Lita Released Michu (Napoli) Loan Ben Davies (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed Michel Vorm (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed Alejandro Pozuelo (Rayo Vallecano) Undisclosed West Brom Billy Jones (Sunderland) Free Nicolas Anelka Released Zoltan Gera Released Diego Lugano Released Liam Ridgewell Released Steven Reid (Burnley) Free West Ham Joe Cole (Aston Villa) Free Jack Collison Released George McCartney Released Matt Taylor (Burnley) Free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Very positive news conference. Looks like we could realistically end up with both this guy and Rojo. Ronald looked REALLY ****ed off in the presser. Horrible tension in the air. Something nasty is going on behind the scenes... Quite divergent views. Didn't get to watch the presser, so any body language experts in the house to confirm whether Ron was very positive or really ****ed off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Quite divergent views. Didn't get to watch the presser, so any body language experts in the house to confirm whether Ron was very positive or really ****ed off? He looked about as reserved as he usually does, to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 In my mind he's already gone to be honest. I'm not all that fussed now. No doubt he wants to go, but the difference is Spurs are unlikely to offer massive amounts for him (such is the way with Levy) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 (edited) Of course, this is tangible cobblers - even taking out the borderline cases the following sides have lost 5 players who regularly featured in their match day squads as often as the likes of Chambers or Osvaldo did, and sides like Man City and QPR have released far more fringe players too. Arsenal Lukasz Fabianski (Swansea City) Free Bacary Sagna (Manchester City) Free Nicklas Bendtner Released Chu Young Park Released Carl Jenkinson (West Ham United) Loan Chelsea Ashley Cole (Roma) Free Samuel Eto'o Released Frank Lampard (New York City) Free Demba Ba (Besiktas) Undisclosed Romelu Lukaku (Everton) £28m Manchester United Rio Ferdinand (QPR) Free Ryan Giggs Released Nemanja Vidic (Inter Milan) Free Alexander Buttner (Dynamo Moscow) Undisclosed Patrice Evra (Juventus) Undisclosed Sunderland Phil Bardsley (Stoke City) Free Craig Gardner (West Bromwich Albion) Free Carlos Cuellar Released Andrea Dossena Released Oscar Ustari Released David Vaughan Released Kieren Westwood Released Jack Colback (Newcastle United) Free Swansea Leroy Lita Released Michu (Napoli) Loan Ben Davies (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed Michel Vorm (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed Alejandro Pozuelo (Rayo Vallecano) Undisclosed West Brom Billy Jones (Sunderland) Free Nicolas Anelka Released Zoltan Gera Released Diego Lugano Released Liam Ridgewell Released Steven Reid (Burnley) Free West Ham Joe Cole (Aston Villa) Free Jack Collison Released George McCartney Released Matt Taylor (Burnley) Free Have you gone all MLG? He's made an art of stating the tortuously obvious to be trivially correct. You know what the point was regards the quality and importance of those departed players to our team. Or at least, I hope you do - if not, you might have full-blown MLG. And yes the poster is incorrect - we've lost six players.... Edited 8 August, 2014 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Of course, this is tangible cobblers - even taking out the borderline cases the following sides have lost 5 players who regularly featured in their match day squads as often as the likes of Chambers or Osvaldo did, and sides like Man City and QPR have released far more fringe players too. Arsenal Lukasz Fabianski (Swansea City) Free Bacary Sagna (Manchester City) Free Nicklas Bendtner Released Chu Young Park Released Carl Jenkinson (West Ham United) Loan Chelsea Ashley Cole (Roma) Free Samuel Eto'o Released Frank Lampard (New York City) Free Demba Ba (Besiktas) Undisclosed Romelu Lukaku (Everton) £28m Manchester United Rio Ferdinand (QPR) Free Ryan Giggs Released Nemanja Vidic (Inter Milan) Free Alexander Buttner (Dynamo Moscow) Undisclosed Patrice Evra (Juventus) Undisclosed Sunderland Phil Bardsley (Stoke City) Free Craig Gardner (West Bromwich Albion) Free Carlos Cuellar Released Andrea Dossena Released Oscar Ustari Released David Vaughan Released Kieren Westwood Released Jack Colback (Newcastle United) Free Swansea Leroy Lita Released Michu (Napoli) Loan Ben Davies (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed Michel Vorm (Tottenham Hotspur) Undisclosed Alejandro Pozuelo (Rayo Vallecano) Undisclosed West Brom Billy Jones (Sunderland) Free Nicolas Anelka Released Zoltan Gera Released Diego Lugano Released Liam Ridgewell Released Steven Reid (Burnley) Free West Ham Joe Cole (Aston Villa) Free Jack Collison Released George McCartney Released Matt Taylor (Burnley) Of all those players the only real first team regulars, that are consistant with our big losses would be; Sagna - replaced by debuchy Vidic - as of now unreplaced Evra - replaced by shaw Eto'o - replaced by costa So no, its not quite the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 6 Weeks? Our "world famous recruitment department" could have made his job a bit easier too. True, they could. Wasn't he on holiday for a while? I would expect they waved a list in front if him first though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 He looked about as reserved as he usually does, to me. Cheers, expected as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Anyone thinking that these Gardos rumours are put in place to get Sporting to hurry up and make a decision on Rojo? Obviously it'd be great to sign both but I don't think that'll be the case at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Of all those players the only real first team regulars, that are consistant with our big losses would be; Sagna - replaced by debuchy Vidic - as of now unreplaced Evra - replaced by shaw Eto'o - replaced by costa So no, its not quite the same Well, apart from Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard, Demba Ba, Rio Ferdinand, Alexander Buttner, Phil Bardsley, Craig Gardner, Jack Colback, Ben Davies, Michel Vorm. Alejandro Pozuelo, Billy Jones, Liam Ridgewell, Steven Reid, Jack Collison and Matt Taylor, but yeah, I see where you're coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Anyone thinking that these Gardos rumours are put in place to get Sporting to hurry up and make a decision on Rojo? Obviously it'd be great to sign both but I don't think that'll be the case at all. Nope, I think its past that now. I really do hope we end up with Rojo as well but I think it'll be one or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Anyone thinking that these Gardos rumours are put in place to get Sporting to hurry up and make a decision on Rojo? Obviously it'd be great to sign both but I don't think that'll be the case at all. Well no, we'll be signing him I expect, that's what the Romanians are saying isn't it. Unless of course they know that he had his medical yesterday and are just assuming that to be the last step before actually signing for the club. Honestly I don't think Rojo wants to play for us at all, hope I'm wrong there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Well, apart from Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard, Demba Ba, Rio Ferdinand, Alexander Buttner, Phil Bardsley, Craig Gardner, Jack Colback, Ben Davies, Michel Vorm. Alejandro Pozuelo, Billy Jones, Liam Ridgewell, Steven Reid, Jack Collison and Matt Taylor, but yeah, I see where you're coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Are we still trying to get a other centre forward or winger? And what about cover for Clyne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Well, apart from Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard, Demba Ba, Rio Ferdinand, Alexander Buttner, Phil Bardsley, Craig Gardner, Jack Colback, Ben Davies, Michel Vorm. Alejandro Pozuelo, Billy Jones, Liam Ridgewell, Steven Reid, Jack Collison and Matt Taylor, but yeah, I see where you're coming from. Mmm I would say you're on dodgy there. He was comparing the impact on the respective teams that our outgoings had on ours. Many of those you've highlighted were not regular first teamers let alone in the top 5/6 key players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Have you gone all MLG? He's made an art of stating the tortuously obvious to be trivially correct. You know what the point was regards the quality and importance of those departed players to our team. Or at least, I hope you do - if not, you might have full-blown MLG. And yes the poster is incorrect - we've lost six players.... Actually you've forgotten Fox and Guly as well. The point he was making was that no other side has lost 5 starters. Well, using those criteria, either we haven't, or that lot have too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Mmm I would say you're on dodgy there. He was comparing the impact on the respective teams that our outgoings had on ours. Many of those you've highlighted were not regular first teamers let alone in the top 5/6 key players. Dodgy is being charitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Of all those players the only real first team regulars, that are consistant with our big losses would be; Sagna - replaced by debuchy Vidic - as of now unreplaced Evra - replaced by shaw Eto'o - replaced by costa So no, its not quite the same Would be nice if your point wasn't complete nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Well, apart from Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard, Demba Ba, Rio Ferdinand, Alexander Buttner, Phil Bardsley, Craig Gardner, Jack Colback, Ben Davies, Michel Vorm. Alejandro Pozuelo, Billy Jones, Liam Ridgewell, Steven Reid, Jack Collison and Matt Taylor, but yeah, I see where you're coming from. Yeah I missed the part they were all major players for their respected clubs last year considering most played around half or less of their games I reckon. Still, i see where you are coming from, well done for completely missing my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Would be nice if your point wasn't complete nonsense. Really ? None of the rest were as influential as lambert, lallana, lovren who were all major players past year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Mmm I would say you're on dodgy there. He was comparing the impact on the respective teams that our outgoings had on ours. Many of those you've highlighted were not regular first teamers let alone in the top 5/6 key players. Well, Lampard had 26 appearances in the league, Cole 17, Ba 19, Ferdinand 14, Buttner only 8, Bardsley 26, Gardner 18, Colback 32, Davies 34, Vorm 26, Pozuelo 22, Jones 21, Ridgewell 33, Reid 16, Collison 9 and Taylor 20 so only Buttner and Collison out of the lot had less than 10 apps and the rest were always in or around the first team squad and 9 of them had 20 or more appearances (pretty regular IMO)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Yeah I missed the part they were all major players for their respected clubs last year considering most played around half or less of their games I reckon. Still, i see where you are coming from, well done for completely missing my point See my post above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CityRanger Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Whats all this nonsense got to do with transfer rumours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Have you gone all MLG? He's made an art of stating the tortuously obvious to be trivially correct. You know what the point was regards the quality and importance of those departed players to our team. Or at least, I hope you do - if not, you might have full-blown MLG. And yes the poster is incorrect - we've lost six players.... seven if you add Guly who is at least equal to some of the above listed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Well, Lampard had 26 appearances in the league, Cole 17, Ba 19, Ferdinand 14, Buttner only 8, Bardsley 26, Gardner 18, Colback 32, Davies 34, Vorm 26, Pozuelo 22, Jones 21, Ridgewell 33, Reid 16, Collison 9 and Taylor 20 so only Buttner and Collison out of the lot had less than 10 apps and the rest were always in or around the first team squad and 9 of them had 20 or more appearances (pretty regular IMO)... So of a 38 game season they only really played around half or less then half ? Thanks for doing the hard work to prove my point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 See my post above You have indeed missed the point but we are digressing from the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint IQ Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Of all those players the only real first team regulars, that are consistant with our big losses would be; Sagna - replaced by debuchy Vidic - as of now unreplaced Evra - replaced by shaw Eto'o - replaced by costa So no, its not quite the same Vorm? Ben Davies? Michu? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block34 Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 So are we going to sign 2-bob or is it just so much smoke and mirrors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 So of a 38 game season they only really played around half or less then half ? Thanks for doing the hard work to prove my point Half would be 19, right? So 10 of those I listed played half or more, and 6 of those played 25 games or more with only 6 of my list playing less than half the games. I'd say the majority of those I listed initially were first team regulars last season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor Patrón Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Half would be 19, right? So 10 of those I listed played half or more, and 6 of those played 25 games or more with only 6 of my list playing less than half the games. I'd say the majority of those I listed initially were first team regulars last season... I get 3 posts a day, I'm happy to use the two that remain to call you an absolute retard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 I get 3 posts a day, I'm happy to use the two that remain to call you an absolute retard. You get 3 too many, IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Vorm? Ben Davies? Michu? Vorm only made 26 appearances, michu was mercurial last year (injured ?) but ben davies, yes, I missed him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Half would be 19, right? So 10 of those I listed played half or more, and 6 of those played 25 games or more with only 6 of my list playing less than half the games. I'd say the majority of those I listed initially were first team regulars last season... There really isnt much point argueing about trivialities with you, you have missed the point by such a margin Im surprised we arent argueing about basketball. If you really believe, for instance, that Lampard, a man that chelsea willingly let go on a free and despite maybe playing 26 games (a little over half) of which Id argue the majority of which were sub appearances, is a bigger loss to chelsea then lallana is to us then you are very very wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckenham Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 There really isnt much point argueing about trivialities with you, you have missed the point by such a margin Im surprised we arent argueing about basketball. If you really believe, for instance, that Lampard, a man that chelsea willingly let go on a free and despite maybe playing 26 games (a little over half) of which Id argue the majority of which were sub appearances, is a bigger loss to chelsea then lallana is to us then you are very very wrong I get your point completely, I'm just winding down the clock in the office whilst trying to still look busy. I know none of them were as big a loss as our own (and I'm only counting Lovren, Lallana and Shaw in that, possibly Chambers as it's entirely reasonable to consider that Lambert wouldn't have been our main striker this year anyway, given that we tried to replace him last year and reports we tried to sell him in January), but, I was just pointing out that in the list of four players you picked out and said they were the only players that were first team regulars that left was wide of the mark. I don't particularly care about what I'm arguing here, nor does it matter to me, I'm just pleased that my boss thinks I'm typing away more than anyone else is this afternoon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igsey Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 There really isnt much point argueing about trivialities with you, you have missed the point by such a margin Im surprised we arent argueing about basketball. If you really believe, for instance, that Lampard, a man that chelsea willingly let go on a free and despite maybe playing 26 games (a little over half) of which Id argue the majority of which were sub appearances, is a bigger loss to chelsea then lallana is to us then you are very very wrong Personally I would argue that this thread is titled 'TRANSFER RUMOURS ONLY' and that's not a transfer rumour, so please kindly take your inane babbling elsewhere. I assume K Billy/Monk/Guan have nothing more for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 I always did think Beckers was a sound chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 I get your point completely, I'm just winding down the clock in the office whilst trying to still look busy. I know none of them were as big a loss as our own (and I'm only counting Lovren, Lallana and Shaw in that, possibly Chambers as it's entirely reasonable to consider that Lambert wouldn't have been our main striker this year anyway, given that we tried to replace him last year and reports we tried to sell him in January), but, I was just pointing out that in the list of four players you picked out and said they were the only players that were first team regulars that left was wide of the mark. I don't particularly care about what I'm arguing here, nor does it matter to me, I'm just pleased that my boss thinks I'm typing away more than anyone else is this afternoon! fair enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Personally I would argue that this thread is titled 'TRANSFER RUMOURS ONLY' and that's not a transfer rumour, so please kindly take your inane babbling elsewhere. I assume K Billy/Monk/Guan have nothing more for us? If you look to the right theres a bar that scrolls up or down, I find it useful when skipping past certain posts containing a majority of ******** of which yours normally fall into the category of ! HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 I get your point completely, I'm just winding down the clock in the office whilst trying to still look busy. I know none of them were as big a loss as our own (and I'm only counting Lovren, Lallana and Shaw in that, possibly Chambers as it's entirely reasonable to consider that Lambert wouldn't have been our main striker this year anyway, given that we tried to replace him last year and reports we tried to sell him in January), but, I was just pointing out that in the list of four players you picked out and said they were the only players that were first team regulars that left was wide of the mark. I don't particularly care about what I'm arguing here, nor does it matter to me, I'm just pleased that my boss thinks I'm typing away more than anyone else is this afternoon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Interesting listening to Sean Dyche earlier on TalkSport. He was talking about how difficult it is to get transfer deals done in the Premiership. Sounds like we are not the only ones having trouble getting our targets in. Are you the same person that has the 'boring James Milner' account on twitter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 I get your point completely, I'm just winding down the clock in the office whilst trying to still look busy. I know none of them were as big a loss as our own (and I'm only counting Lovren, Lallana and Shaw in that, possibly Chambers as it's entirely reasonable to consider that Lambert wouldn't have been our main striker this year anyway, given that we tried to replace him last year and reports we tried to sell him in January), but, I was just pointing out that in the list of four players you picked out and said they were the only players that were first team regulars that left was wide of the mark. I don't particularly care about what I'm arguing here, nor does it matter to me, I'm just pleased that my boss thinks I'm typing away more than anyone else is this afternoon! Is your boss a Saints fan and does he drop in on this forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobbysouth Posted 8 August, 2014 Share Posted 8 August, 2014 Beckenham saint this is your boss. Youre fired! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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