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[Mboto Gorge]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

The fact the bloke who is funding the group out his own pocket, has personally stepped in to run us, is pretty strong evidence of that. 

He’s not doing a very good job of running us though is he? He seems to still be giving Rasmus a free reign to call the shots, so if this is his version of “running us” then nothing has really changed from before , being that Rasmus’s hands are all over pretty much every transfer we are involved in. Rasmus is doing whatever he pleases, with Solaks blessing.  They are both fucking idiots. Seems that some People just don’t want to accept that Southampton FC is being taken for a ride by these clowns. 

[Fabrice29]

39 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Yeah but ignore all the facts that clearly point to what Rasmus said actually being his intention. Let’s bury our heads in the sand and assume we are still the flagship club despite all of this. It’ll all work out. Im Not sure if some of our fans are thick, naive, or just don’t want to believe that we are being used as a pawn to further another clubs aspirations for Rasmus to be seen as a hero. After all, he’s basically in charge of Goztepe, surely for his own ego it makes sense for him to prioritise them over us now. We all know how egotistical it is- he will want to be seen as someone who’s catapulted them to stardom as his name is all over them. 

I think you’re caring too much about what this guy is saying in that specific environment 😂 Like you said, if he’s basically in charge there then yes he’s going to a) play to their crowd and b) have their interests at his heart. 

We have people playing the same role here, it’s up to them to focus on us and there’s plenty of energy to be critical of them so don’t waste it on this 😂

[Fabrice29]

4 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

He seems to still be giving Rasmus a free reign to call the shots

Where’s that evidence then?

[franniesTache]

1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said:

Saints are the keystone club in the group as the owner Dragan Solak has stated publicly.

So let me get this right, when Rasmus says the opposite to a turkish audience it's just being said because it's a turkish audience and isn't true, but when Solak says it to an audience in southampton it's not because it's to an audience in southampton it's because it's true.

Cool stuff, nice to know we don't need to question what's being said anymore and that they don't do marketing with us.

[Mboto Gorge]

1 minute ago, Fabrice29 said:

Where’s that evidence then?

I said that’s what it “seems” to be happening based on the links to Rasmus in staff and player trading. Do you disagree then?

[Mboto Gorge]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

I think you’re caring too much about what this guy is saying in that specific environment 😂 Like you said, if he’s basically in charge there then yes he’s going to a) play to their crowd and b) have their interests at his heart. 

We have people playing the same role here, it’s up to them to focus on us and there’s plenty of energy to be critical of them so don’t waste it on this 😂

Let’s hope you’re right. However surely it’s an idiotic thing for Rasmus to say regardless . He didn’t need to say something that’s clearly an outright lie, to appease their fanbase did he? As I’ve said before, they’re a delusional bunch at goztepe if they’re expecting to be told that they’re the biggest club in the group. When they’re clearly not

[Fabrice29]

Goztepe in fairness are a lot more successful than us. They are in with a shout of European football. Think it would be really bad business sense if the didn’t try and focus on them. 

1 minute ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I said that’s what it “seems” to be happening based on the links to Rasmus in staff and player trading. Do you disagree then?

I haven’t seen any evidence that Rasmus is driving the recruitment of staff or players? I’d say all evidence suggests he’s taken a back seat here, we’ve appointed a specific DOF to do that for us and he’s focusing on Goztepe. So unless there is any, I’d be inclined to disagree yeah. 

[Dman]

2 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

He’s not doing a very good job of running us though is he? He seems to still be giving Rasmus a free reign to call the shots, so if this is his version of “running us” then nothing has really changed from before , being that Rasmus’s hands are all over pretty much every transfer we are involved in. Rasmus is doing whatever he pleases, with Solaks blessing.  They are both fucking idiots. Seems that some People just don’t want to accept that Southampton FC is being taken for a ride by these clowns. 

A lot in here to break down, i'll give it a go. 

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He’s not doing a very good job of running us though is he?

Nope. Doesn't mean that we're seen as second fiddle to some mob out in turkey. 

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He seems to still be giving Rasmus a free reign to call the shots, so if this is his version of “running us” then nothing has really changed from before , being that Rasmus’s hands are all over pretty much every transfer we are involved in. Rasmus is doing whatever he pleases, with Solaks blessing.

He may or may not be taking advise from Rasmus. We may or may not be leaning on his 'algroithm' to highlight potential transfers. 

Personally, I think the fact that pretty much everyone we've signed has been known to the DOF in charge at the time* would suggest that Rasmus hands aren't all over every transfer we do. 

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Seems that some People just don’t want to accept that Southampton FC is being taken for a ride by these clowns. 

Doing a shit job doesn't equate to 'being taken for a ride'. Its a pretty expensive ride for them as they aren't going to recoup anything close to what they've invested. 

If you seriously think that we only exist to fund a champions leauge push for some noddy turkish mob, then you crack on. 

[Mboto Gorge]

5 minutes ago, Dman said:

A lot in here to break down, i'll give it a go. 

Nope. Doesn't mean that we're seen as second fiddle to some mob out in turkey. 

He may or may not be taking advise from Rasmus. We may or may not be leaning on his 'algroithm' to highlight potential transfers. 

Personally, I think the fact that pretty much everyone we've signed has been known to the DOF in charge at the time* would suggest that Rasmus hands aren't all over every transfer we do. 

Doing a shit job doesn't equate to 'being taken for a ride'. Its a pretty expensive ride for them as they aren't going to recoup anything close to what they've invested. 

If you seriously think that we only exist to fund a champions leauge push for some noddy turkish mob, then you crack on. 

I’d like to think not, but I’m struggling to believe that our owners could be this incompetent whilst having us as their priority.

I think we were their priority, but we no longer are - coincidentally ever since they realised how much money is involved in stabilising as a Premier league club , something they’ve grossly underestimated with recruitment of both players and managers -  and also ever since Rasmus was sent to focus primarily as Goztepe as their chairman. So yeah, I’ll crack on believing that goztepe are being prioritised before us, - (never said we “only exist to fund them” but nice try there)

maybe you’ll realise that after a few more years in championship or even a drop to league one soon.

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[Dman]

1 minute ago, Mboto Gorge said:

I’d like to think not, but I’m struggling to believe that our owners could be this incompetent whilst having us as their priority.

I think we were their priority, but we no longer are - coincidentally ever since they realised how much money is involved in stabilising as a Premier league club , something they’ve grossly underestimated with recruitment of both players and managers -  and also ever since Rasmus was sent to focus primarily as Goztepe as their chairman. So yeah, I’ll crack on believing that goztepe are being prioritised before us, maybe you’ll realise that after a few more years in championship or even a drop to league one soon.

This litterally only happened because he was doing a shit job with us 😂

[Mboto Gorge]

1 minute ago, Dman said:

This litterally only happened because he was doing a shit job with us 😂

Yeah - my point is that wherever Rasmus’s priority lies, so does the entire groups. He dictates that, because Solak is entrusting him to. What is happening currently would certainly point to that. His current priority is Goztepe so the group are also focussing on that because he is heading the groups overall football operations. That’s how I see it anyway, If you believe otherwise that’s fair enough, we will see what happens.

[Dman]

1 minute ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Yeah - my point is that wherever Rasmus’s priority lies, so does the entire groups. He dictates that, because Solak is entrusting him to. What is happening currently would certainly point to that. His current priority is Goztepe so the group are also focussing on that because he is heading the groups overall football operations. That’s how I see it anyway, If you believe otherwise that’s fair enough, we will see what happens.

Goztepe spend this season, €6m

Southampton spend this season, €60m

What have Goztepe gain from us? Matsuki on-loan (who came back to us a better player), Lis who wasn't good enough for us and that brazilian striker who's scored 6 goals in 21 games in the turkish leauge ffs. 

We're a basket case, Im not defending SR - they need to go. But there is absolutely no evidence to suggest that they have taken the prioirty in the clubs ownership model. It is within their intrest for all clubs to be over performing, but the money will always be with english clubs. 

A throw away comment, that was made a few years ago now, from a snake oil saleman won't change that fact for me. 

[Fabrice29]

Is this conference 3 years ago as well? 

[Osvaldorama]

They’re fucking useless 

[Matthew Le God]

1 hour ago, franniesTache said:

So let me get this right, when Rasmus says the opposite to a turkish audience it's just being said because it's a turkish audience and isn't true, but when Solak says it to an audience in southampton it's not because it's to an audience in southampton it's because it's true.

Cool stuff, nice to know we don't need to question what's being said anymore and that they don't do marketing with us.

What the owner of the group says has more weight than what the chairman of the sister club says.

[benjii]

1 hour ago, Dman said:

The fact the bloke who is funding the group out his own pocket, has personally stepped in to run us, is pretty strong evidence of that. 

Has he?

[tdmickey3]

15 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said:

What the owner of the group says has more weight than what the chairman of the sister club says.

Except on transfers

[Dman]

13 minutes ago, benjii said:

Has he?

Yep https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/club-statement-january-14-2025