Tyler Dibling

[SWLondon Saint]

24 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Are you feeling ok? How do you come up with probably lol 

OK, definitely smaller fanbase than us, happy? 😂

[Winnersaint]

11 minutes ago, John B said:

 I live in Berkshire up the M3 with an easy trip by car to St Mary's but once every couple of years I see kids wearing Saints shirts

I know of at least 4 in Winnersh/Hurst area inc me.

[Chez]

30 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Would rather the 40m now than keep dibs for this season to be honest.

I believe Spors will allocate that a lot better across the team than rasmus ever could.

Also can someone make a note to not buy him back this time like from chelsea if he doesnt like it in Liverpool, no offence to the lad but 1st time ok, 2nd time would be taking the piss.

A buy back clause wouldn't be a bad idea. Getting first dibs at him next summer when we go up and he's underwhelmed at Everton. Kevin Davies II.

Edited 3 hours ago by Chez

[pimpin4rizeal]

We where even better off with les reed in charge then the current lot .. they just let players do whatever they want and even make it easier for them like loaning out ramsdale .

it’s also cringe how you couldn’t even judge dibling like anyone else as he’s only 18 or one of our own etc spoilt little tosser who’s basically refused to sign to the club who spent so much time on him one of our own my ass 

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

We where even better off with les reed in charge then the current lot .. they just let players do whatever they want and even make it easier for them like loaning out ramsdale .

it’s also cringe how you couldn’t even judge dibling like anyone else as he’s only 18 or one of our own etc spoilt little tosser who’s basically refused to sign to the club who spent so much time on him one of our own my ass 

He did leave a while ago, so I dont think he was a dyed in the wool Saint. Whether he will feel ok away from the club and doesnt get homesick again time will tell. Agents rule the roost and it is only going to get worse. Cortese I think gave them a torrid time, but it now seems the players agree terms with a club beofre the clubs agree fees it seems to me

[pimpin4rizeal]

2 minutes ago, OldNick said:

He did leave a while ago, so I dont think he was a dyed in the wool Saint. Whether he will feel ok away from the club and doesnt get homesick again time will tell. Agents rule the roost and it is only going to get worse. Cortese I think gave them a torrid time, but it now seems the players agree terms with a club beofre the clubs agree fees it seems to me

Yup if you remember with van dijk we made a lot of fuss about him being tapped up .. nowadays it seems to be totally common practice .

even still I can’t just agree that we should make it so easy for anyone who wants to leave .. fernandes for example if he goes for any less then 50 m this is just becoming ridicolous

[Chez]

9 minutes ago, OldNick said:

We definately not a massive club but we are a large provincial club. I see lots of Saints shirts when Im around and about away from Southampton, dwarfed by the massive clubs of course. It is a shame how we were in the top league for decades but never really took advantage as we were always the bridesmaids and had we won some more trophies Im sure that would have brought more fans longterm

It will be 50 years since the FA cup win next spring and we have almost nothing to show for it in the trophy cabinet. Very frustrating. If we had won something in the modern era that may have helped grab a few more youngsters east of dibbens corner. 

Was there a particular game in the 83/84 season that costs us the league? I know nothing about 79 league cup final. Did we have our chances? Obviously, Heath killed us at Highbury and the Mark Wright broken leg fucked our chances in the 86 semi final. Roger fucking Milford in 90 and a linesman in 2017 did us no favours, to say the least. Pochettino making 6 changes against Sunderland. Not sure there was much we could have done at Cardiff - go for it a little more, maybe? 

[Lighthouse]

8 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Yup if you remember with van dijk we made a lot of fuss about him being tapped up .. nowadays it seems to be totally common practice .

even still I can’t just agree that we should make it so easy for anyone who wants to leave .. fernandes for example if he goes for any less then 50 m this is just becoming ridicolous

Agree with who, exactly? Criticise Rasmus all you like on a variety of issues, but you can't deny he's done well getting good fees for players we have sold. We've already received a quite astonishing figure for Sully and managed to sell Onuachu for £6m, instead of £6. It seems like we're holding out for a decent price on Dibling too.

[Midfield_General]

Everton agree £28m deal for Dewsbury-Hall:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c7vlzjd3nero 

I wonder if that impacts how high they are prepared to go for Dibbers

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, Chez said:

It will be 50 years since the FA cup win next spring and we have almost nothing to show for it in the trophy cabinet. Very frustrating. If we had won something in the modern era that may have helped grab a few more youngsters east of dibbens corner. 

Was there a particular game in the 83/84 season that costs us the league? I know nothing about 79 league cup final. Did we have our chances? Obviously, Heath killed us at Highbury and the Mark Wright broken leg fucked our chances in the 86 semi final. Roger fucking Milford in 90 and a linesman in 2017 did us no favours, to say the least. Pochettino making 6 changes against Sunderland. Not sure there was much we could have done at Cardiff - go for it a little more, maybe? 

I believe in 1984 we lost at home to Stoke who were later relegated. But in truth we were never really in the running for the title, Liverpool had won it weeks before the end of the season and we had a great run after the semi final defeat which meant we finished second place with a win on the last game of the season. 
 

we have a history of heroic failure when we have a chance of glory don’t we. It’s also typical of us that the 3 finals we’ve got to since our win we’ve played 3 of the best teams in the country at the time. Forest would win the European cup the next two seasons, Arsenal were around the invincibles era and Man United had Mourniho as manager still in his prime and Ibrahomovic up front, they also won the Europa league and qualified for the champions league that season,  not quite Fergies United but still a very good team. Meanwhile when the skates get to a cup final they play a team who finished 12th in the championship 🙄

[S-Clarke]

Just now, Midfield_General said:

Everton agree £28m deal for Dewsbury-Hall:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c7vlzjd3nero 

I wonder if that impacts how high they are prepared to go for Dibbers

How do Chelsea keep doing this? Their failed signings keep generating either profit or get sold for net, so they keep making mistakes but never seem to lose out.

It's crazy. Based on his impact last year, he shouldn't be going for anything north of £15m really. There's no way he's still worth what they paid.

[Chez]

16 minutes ago, OldNick said:

He did leave a while ago, so I dont think he was a dyed in the wool Saint. Whether he will feel ok away from the club and doesnt get homesick again time will tell. 

He didn't actually get homesick. The biggest problem was he couldn't get a game there, as they had lots of top class (England) players. If you are not playing games, it's hard to settle in, be part of the side and make friends etc. He didn't really fit in full stop. He was shy and the rest of Chelsea lads were larger than life type characters. At Saints he didn't need to prove himself, knew everyone and was a big fish in a smaller pond.

That all happened three years ago. He was only 16. Three years at that age is a long time. He's grown up since then, and become a top quality senior player...with the confidence that brings. It might not work out at Everton, but not because he will get homesick. 

[bangkoksaint]

14 minutes ago, Chez said:

It will be 50 years since the FA cup win next spring and we have almost nothing to show for it in the trophy cabinet. Very frustrating. If we had won something in the modern era that may have helped grab a few more youngsters east of dibbens corner. 

Was there a particular game in the 83/84 season that costs us the league? I know nothing about 79 league cup final. Did we have our chances? Obviously, Heath killed us at Highbury and the Mark Wright broken leg fucked our chances in the 86 semi final. Roger fucking Milford in 90 and a linesman in 2017 did us no favours, to say the least. Pochettino making 6 changes against Sunderland. Not sure there was much we could have done at Cardiff - go for it a little more, maybe? 

We won the JPT?

[Chez]

5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

How do Chelsea keep doing this? Their failed signings keep generating either profit or get sold for net, so they keep making mistakes but never seem to lose out.

It's crazy. Based on his impact last year, he shouldn't be going for anything north of £15m really. There's no way he's still worth what they paid.

The big clubs, Man United apart, always seem to make a load out of their failures. I guess City aren't recouping what they paid for Philips.

Chelsea appear to have only got £24m of the £30m back. So they have made a bit of a loss. £15m would be a bloody good deal. £24m feels about right. Not sure he failed. He just couldn't get in the side, which isn't easy when they have hundreds of attacking players.

[Chez]

4 minutes ago, bangkoksaint said:

We won the JPT?

I intentionally didn't mention it, as that isn't going to turn glory hunters into Saints fans.

[Yorkshire Saint]

10 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

How do Chelsea keep doing this? Their failed signings keep generating either profit or get sold for net, so they keep making mistakes but never seem to lose out.

It's crazy. Based on his impact last year, he shouldn't be going for anything north of £15m really. There's no way he's still worth what they paid.

Supply and demand.

They buy all the supply which increases the demand....

[OldNick]

11 minutes ago, Chez said:

It will be 50 years since the FA cup win next spring and we have almost nothing to show for it in the trophy cabinet. Very frustrating. If we had won something in the modern era that may have helped grab a few more youngsters east of dibbens corner. 

Was there a particular game in the 83/84 season that costs us the league? I know nothing about 79 league cup final. Did we have our chances? Obviously, Heath killed us at Highbury and the Mark Wright broken leg fucked our chances in the 86 semi final. Roger fucking Milford in 90 and a linesman in 2017 did us no favours, to say the least. Pochettino making 6 changes against Sunderland. Not sure there was much we could have done at Cardiff - go for it a little more, maybe? 

If I recall correctly we lost to Sheff Wed at home that was costly, I remeber us having a tractor stuck in the corner of the pitch one time so a game was called off (rumour was so that a player would regain fitness Steve Williams??)

79 league cup final we were one up but a mix up with Nicholl and Gennoe our keeper let Forest back into the game, they went 3-1 up before Nick Holmes pulled one back but we just couldnt find another.

Yes Roger f'img Milford that vain twat (Bristollian I think , played and played to let Oldham get their equaliser) Hate him to this day.

Luton in i believe the quarter finals of league cup we had a very close offside decision cost us that night.

As you say Wright having his leg broken cost us and the ref allowing Lawreson and Hansen hold Danny Wallace all game, they were like wrestlers.

Highbury is still the main one for me, Southall saved them and then that little prick scored in extra time.

We never went for it aginst Leicester in the semi final with Ralph, still the wounds of the 9-0 hung over us and it was a poor 1 nil loss , they then went on and won the cup.

[Greenridge]

13 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Everton agree £28m deal for Dewsbury-Hall:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c7vlzjd3nero 

I wonder if that impacts how high they are prepared to go for Dibbers

Isn’t he more of a box-to-box CM rather than a Dibling-type player? 

[Saint86]

18 minutes ago, John B said:

When you got married in the 80s things were so different but the PL has not been good to SFC becuse we are are small club with a small fanbase I live in Berkshire up the M3 with an easy trip by car to St Mary's but once every couple of years I see kids wearing Saints shirts

Plenty of saints fans in Bristol for what its worth. Did junior park run yesterday with my boys in the 23/24 black kit and had one of the organisers cheering on the saints when we went past.

[Chez]

10 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I believe in 1984 we lost at home to Stoke who were later relegated. But in truth we were never really in the running for the title, Liverpool had won it weeks before the end of the season and we had a great run after the semi final defeat which meant we finished second place with a win on the last game of the season. 
 

we have a history of heroic failure when we have a chance of glory don’t we. It’s also typical of us that the 3 finals we’ve got to since our win we’ve played 3 of the best teams in the country at the time. Forest would win the European cup the next two seasons, Arsenal were around the invincibles era and Man United had Mourniho as manager still in his prime and Ibrahomovic up front, they also won the Europa league and qualified for the champions league that season,  not quite Fergies United but still a very good team. Meanwhile when the skates get to a cup final they play a team who finished 12th in the championship 🙄

to be fair the skates beat Man at Old Trafford.

Another issue was we didn't seem to get to semi finals and finals with our best performing sides. The Poch 2014 team and Koeman 2016 sides had everything needed to win a major cup, but they didn't get a run started.

[OldNick]

14 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I believe in 1984 we lost at home to Stoke who were later relegated. But in truth we were never really in the running for the title, Liverpool had won it weeks before the end of the season and we had a great run after the semi final defeat which meant we finished second place with a win on the last game of the season. 
 

we have a history of heroic failure when we have a chance of glory don’t we. It’s also typical of us that the 3 finals we’ve got to since our win we’ve played 3 of the best teams in the country at the time. Forest would win the European cup the next two seasons, Arsenal were around the invincibles era and Man United had Mourniho as manager still in his prime and Ibrahomovic up front, they also won the Europa league and qualified for the champions league that season,  not quite Fergies United but still a very good team. Meanwhile when the skates get to a cup final they play a team who finished 12th in the championship 🙄

I thought we finished 3 points or less behind Liverpool??

[OldNick]

Just now, Chez said:

to be fair the skates beat Man at Old Trafford.

Another issue was we didn't seem to get to semi finals and finals with our best performing sides. The Poch 2014 team and Koeman 2016 sides had everything needed to win a major cup, but they didn't get a run started.

it was against 10 men, a dubious sending off I thought

[Chez]

3 minutes ago, Greenridge said:

Isn’t he more of a box-to-box CM rather than a Dibling-type player? 

Yes, but I think it was more about how much money they now have left after getting that deal done. I'd of thought they could still afford Dibling. From an Everton point of view, they feel like a nice pair of signings to me. Might not make them winners overnight, but creates a younger more talented squad.

[jamesfp1]

Didn't they say we can spend without having to sell in this window?

[maysie]

Within the BBC article reporting the Dewsbury -Hall signing:

Everton have also been in negotiations with Southampton for winger Tyler Dibling, but are considering walking away if the valuation for the 19-year-old doesn't drop after a second bid was rejected.

 

[Chez]

1 minute ago, OldNick said:

it was against 10 men, a dubious sending off I thought

It was. As much as it pains me to say it, the side they had that year was pretty decent though. They maximised its potential by winning a trophy. We didn't quite do the same with our two top sides in 2014 and 2016. When you have a good PL side, that is the time to really go for it, because you simply are never going to have a better opportunity. What chance of us winning this season? Zero. 

[Chez]

2 minutes ago, jamesfp1 said:

Didn't they say we can spend without having to sell in this window?

It's been answered on various threads. We identified three positions to strengthen and confirmed we didn't have to have sell players in order to buy. Which is why we signed two players. Obviously we have sold players too.  it doesn't appear to be lack of funds, it's about getting the quality of the player they want to come to us rather than hold out for alternative...and the selling club being ready to sell/loan etc.

[wild-saint]

20 minutes ago, Chez said:

He didn't actually get homesick. The biggest problem was he couldn't get a game there, as they had lots of top class (England) players. If you are not playing games, it's hard to settle in, be part of the side and make friends etc. He didn't really fit in full stop. He was shy and the rest of Chelsea lads were larger than life type characters. At Saints he didn't need to prove himself, knew everyone and was a big fish in a smaller pond.

That all happened three years ago. He was only 16. Three years at that age is a long time. He's grown up since then, and become a top quality senior player...with the confidence that brings. It might not work out at Everton, but not because he will get homesick. 

I thought that he was there around 6 weeks before he started makign noises about coming home and chelsea agreed to cancel the contract. Not sure it was about game time that quickly. 

[Chez]

4 minutes ago, maysie said:

Within the BBC article reporting the Dewsbury -Hall signing:

Everton have also been in negotiations with Southampton for winger Tyler Dibling, but are considering walking away if the valuation for the 19-year-old doesn't drop after a second bid was rejected.

 

Ah, the old considering walking away noises.

They are all in now. This deal will be done very soon. 

[Midfield_General]

20 minutes ago, Greenridge said:

Isn’t he more of a box-to-box CM rather than a Dibling-type player? 

Yeah they're different players, I was just wondering out loud if dropping the thick end of £30m on him means they have less to spend on Dibling from a PSR perspective or whatever. 

[tdmickey3]

15 minutes ago, Chez said:

Ah, the old considering walking away noises.

They are all in now. This deal will be done very soon. 

Yep, cave in time

[Chez]

15 minutes ago, wild-saint said:

I thought that he was there around 6 weeks before he started makign noises about coming home and chelsea agreed to cancel the contract. Not sure it was about game time that quickly. 

That's what I was told by someone who would know. But they only played 3 official U18 PL games.  He was on the bench for two of them. However, I am guessing there were friendly games prior to those, so maybe he didn't start in any of those either. It matters not. He's older and more confident and he's off. So lets get a massive sell on clause and a first dibs buy back so if he is either very successful or a big failure we can take advantage, again.

[Chez]

3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Yep, cave in time

us or them?

[tdmickey3]

Just now, Chez said:

us or them?

Us

[Weston Super Saint]

Just now, tdmickey3 said:

Us

Unlikely.

We are now a selling team.  If we don't do well at selling, then there isn't much point of us!

We've sold well recently, getting figures for players we really shouldn't have.  We hold all the cards, so the Toffees will have to put up or shut up.

[Saint_lambden]

2 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Us

Why would we cave in? They’re desperate for new signings and we know it. He’s their number one target that they’ve made x3 bids for in the last week. We hold the power. 

[Chez]

6 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said:

Why would we cave in? They’re desperate for new signings and we know it. He’s their number one target that they’ve made x3 bids for in the last week. We hold the power. 

Can we get you in the room, prior to the next round of negotiations, for a pep talk?

[Turkish]

46 minutes ago, Chez said:

to be fair the skates beat Man at Old Trafford.

Another issue was we didn't seem to get to semi finals and finals with our best performing sides. The Poch 2014 team and Koeman 2016 sides had everything needed to win a major cup, but they didn't get a run started.

They got absolutely battered in that game, another day United win that 5-0, they got lucky and nicked one with a penalty 10 minutes from the end. Rio Ferdinand ended up in goal for United. I seem to recall Man United getting denied at least two stonewall penalties too. One of those games where you just know their name was on the cup 

 

 

[Turkish]

50 minutes ago, OldNick said:

I thought we finished 3 points or less behind Liverpool??

3 points behind but like I said Liverpool had won the league with weeks to spare, we had a great late run to push us into second. It wasn’t us and them going neck and neck for weeks with us slipping up. 

[Chez]

15 minutes ago, Turkish said:

 One of those games where you just know their name was on the cup 

Sadly, yes. Having beaten them, there was no one left. Horrible feeling see the path open up for them. Fuck me do I need to witness two crushing defeats of them this season. A 3-0 cruise at our place and a last minute winner at fratton will do nicely. Downs, with something akin to the Yeboah goal at Wimbledon. Happy place found.

Edited 1 hour ago by Chez

[richardc]

1 hour ago, Chez said:

It will be 50 years since the FA cup win next spring and we have almost nothing to show for it in the trophy cabinet. Very frustrating. If we had won something in the modern era that may have helped grab a few more youngsters east of dibbens corner. 

Was there a particular game in the 83/84 season that costs us the league? I know nothing about 79 league cup final. Did we have our chances? Obviously, Heath killed us at Highbury and the Mark Wright broken leg fucked our chances in the 86 semi final. Roger fucking Milford in 90 and a linesman in 2017 did us no favours, to say the least. Pochettino making 6 changes against Sunderland. Not sure there was much we could have done at Cardiff - go for it a little more, maybe? 

you must have a short memory - we won the NI Super cup on Friday 

[ally_uk]

I'd be tempted to say to Everton 60 million or jog on...... 

[Chez]

20 minutes ago, richardc said:

you must have a short memory - we won the NI Super cup on Friday 

I do, but I don't think the Gothia cup of the modern age is going to convert Liverpool glory hunters from Basingstoke into Saints fans, but at least we can lose the lump of quartz padding out the trophy cabinet t make way for that piece of silverware.

Edited 1 hour ago by Chez

[Harry_SFC]

One report claiming Everton are prepared to walk away if our valuation doesn't drop. It'll be interesting to see what happens next as they desperately need signings. We also need to sell Dibling really to stop him leaving for a low fee next summer. 

[Midfield_General]

Guardian reporting that the latest (third) offer is a package worth up to £40m, but that we're holding out for nearer £50m and think that other clubs might be about to get involved. It's Ben Fisher who has reported on Saints for a fair while and is usually fairly reliable: 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/aug/04/everton-tyler-dibling-kiernan-dewsbury-hall-chelsea-transfer-news 

If we take them for £50m, then that's us all square for that little twat Adrian Heath as far as I'm concerned. Go on Spors, rinse those dugout-bothering gimps, they're desperate. 

Edited 58 minutes ago by Midfield_General

[SuperSAINT]

2 minutes ago, Midfield_General said:

Guardian reporting that the latest (third) offer is a package worth up to £40m but that we're holding out for nearer £50m:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2025/aug/04/everton-tyler-dibling-kiernan-dewsbury-hall-chelsea-transfer-news 

If we take them for £50m, then that's us all square for that little twat Adrian Heath as far as I'm concerned. Go on Spors, rinse those dugout-bothering gimps, they're desperate. 

Ben Fisher, historically, pretty well sourced here.

[Midfield_General]

6 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Ben Fisher, historically, pretty well sourced here.

Maddison's injury means Spurs are going to need to replace some creativity, so I wonder if we've had a sniff from them which means we can be a bit bolshier over the price, although circa £50m on a teenager would be rather un-Levy-like. 

[Saint Scott]

15 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

One report claiming Everton are prepared to walk away if our valuation doesn't drop. It'll be interesting to see what happens next as they desperately need signings. We also need to sell Dibling really to stop him leaving for a low fee next summer. 

Said report, from BBC Sport's Nizaar Kinsella

 

[BARCELONASAINT]

we do not have to sell players to balance the books, i don't know why so many keep banging on about this. We are in a far better place to stand firm over our valuations and if the likes of Everton don't like it then quite frankly they can fuck off.

[benjii]

Yeah, fuck off Everton you whiney Pikey tossers.