What Is Happening To Our Country?

[aintforever]

2 minutes ago, Hatch said:

as an aside,  Need to ban phones too, can't even have a proper riot anymore without some cunt filming it.

 

That made me laugh as well. There were probably more people holding their phones up filming than actually rioting. Don't the thick fuckers realise that by filming it and posting it online, all they are doing is probably handing their fellow neanderthal a prison sentence.  

[egg]

11 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Especially as the army are going to be using wheelie bins to replace the less reliable Ajax armoured vehicles. Do the rioters want to be speaking Russian? 

The future:

 

[Broccoli Man]

6 hours ago, Turkish said:

Id be very interested to see how much gets spent on DEI roles in the public sector. You can find dozens if not hundreds of very, very well paid jobs in Pub Sec in this gravy train. I've seen jobs paying 70-90k as head of DEI in various organisation, which suggests there are also teams of people under neath them. A truly fantastic job, making sure you've got a enough non whites, women and LGBTs women working in your organisation and if anyone disagrees with you you can get them fired for being racist, homophobic or sexist. The job where you cannot fail.

You forgot trannies you bigot.

[ecuk268]

33 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

Total government spending = £1.36trillion 

Total government income = £1.23 trillion 

Welfare/Benefits exceed income tax. 
Total spend exceeds total income. 
 

It’s a shit show. I’m not sure why you’re defending how the country is run lol 

You seem to be confusing total spending with spending on benefits.  

 

 

[badgerx16]

Government borrowing is not exclusively a Labour thing.....

[egg]

1 minute ago, badgerx16 said:

Government borrowing is not exclusively a Labour thing.....

Indeed...John Major's government doubled it. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

35 minutes ago, Hatch said:

as an aside,  Need to ban phones too, can't even have a proper riot anymore without some cunt filming it.

 

I missed half of it, trying on all my balaclavas, to see which one I looked best in, for the cameras.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

32 minutes ago, egg said:

The future:

 

Ed Miliband insisted on keeping the "Keep Your Battlefield Tidy" logo on the front.

[Osvaldorama]

1 hour ago, badgerx16 said:

Government borrowing is not exclusively a Labour thing.....

It isn’t exclusively Labour, the Tories were horrific for the country. But labours policies WILL exacerbate all of the issues. 
 

We need to lower taxes, prioritise growth, lower energy costs, increase the “givers” and decrease the “takers”. 

Labour are doing the exact opposite of what we need. 
 

Again - the bond markets are the most important signal. They cut through all the noise. And the bond markets are saying: we don’t trust that the UK is credit worthy anymore 

[Farmer Saint]

4 hours ago, Osvaldorama said:

Even with NI, Inheritance tax etc there is still an annual deficit, expected to be £133bn this year. 

Taxes do not cover the shortfall, it’s funded by issuing government bonds.
 

They are borrowing from our children’s future to fund an insane welfare state.

As I said, look at the gilt yield curve to see the objective reality of what smart money thinks.

Bonds have been selling off, pushing up rates to even higher levels than under Liz truss, showing that the smart money across the world has zero faith in the government 
 

Bonds are selling off because most run over 10 years. The markets are scared of what's coming at the next election, Reform. That's why the smart money (and the smart people) are exiting the UK.

You don't get out once they are in charge, you get out before they get in charge.

Edited Wednesday at 18:13 by Farmer Saint

[Osvaldorama]

https://www.deported.co.uk/

 

Live immigration cost stats. Interesting 

[Farmer Saint]

25 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

https://www.deported.co.uk/

 

Live immigration cost stats. Interesting 

Interesting. Shows what an amazing job by Labour getting immigration down to 117k. Got to applaud them for that.

[Lord Duckhunter]

4 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

I get my first State pension payment next week, and will pay Income Tax on it.

The triple lock was brought in to rebalance it back to where it was before  Maggie abolished the link to average earnings in 1980. No Government since reversed that decision, and combined with Brown’s destruction of DB private sector pensions, meant a lot of pensioners were poor and getting worse. For all the criticism of the triple lock, it did what was intended, which was to bring it back to where it would have been had, Maggie not changed it. One of the coalitions better policies imo. 
 

I’d now link it to the tax threshold. Make it £1,2570 and peg it to the threshold you start paying tax. There’s no way any Government won’t increase the pension, but by doing so they will have to abandon the worst thing in our horrendous tax policy, fiscal drag. It’s utterly immoral that someone is so poor they don’t pay tax one year, but due to a cost of living pay rise, they pay tax the following one. They’re still just as poor in real terms. Link the pension to that figure , and it’s a win win. 

[egg]

41 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

The triple lock was brought in to rebalance it back to where it was before  Maggie abolished the link to average earnings in 1980. No Government since reversed that decision, and combined with Brown’s destruction of DB private sector pensions, meant a lot of pensioners were poor and getting worse. For all the criticism of the triple lock, it did what was intended, which was to bring it back to where it would have been had, Maggie not changed it. One of the coalitions better policies imo. 
 

I’d now link it to the tax threshold. Make it £1,2570 and peg it to the threshold you start paying tax. There’s no way any Government won’t increase the pension, but by doing so they will have to abandon the worst thing in our horrendous tax policy, fiscal drag. It’s utterly immoral that someone is so poor they don’t pay tax one year, but due to a cost of living pay rise, they pay tax the following one. They’re still just as poor in real terms. Link the pension to that figure , and it’s a win win. 

I quite like the concept, but it doesn't work as payments are held if the threshold is frozen, and a genuine risk of them being frozen in order to keep pension payments down. 

[Saint86]

Would it surprise anyone to know that on the Boro forums, there are multiple users trying to imply blame on Henry Nowak. Some saying he was following Digwa or that its not proven that he wasn't racially abusing him etc. Both of which are absolute nonsense. Some of them really are vile.

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Saint86 said:

Would it surprise anyone to know that on the Boro forums, there are multiple users trying to imply blame on Henry Nowak. Some saying he was following Digwa or that its not proven that he wasn't racially abusing him etc. Both of which are absolute nonsense. Some of them really are vile.

And plenty more shooting them down. Having browsed a few pages I don't think their discussion of this is any different than ours, or any other disparate group of people "meeting" in an open online forum; most people taking the view that Digwa is a complete cunt, a few that Nowak must have done something to provoke the attack, some thinking the Police response was influenced by Digwa being a Sikh. Most, however, taking the reporting from the Court as accurate regarding what happened, and saying that although there are serious issues with how this incident was handled, in general the Police are often put in an impossible position.

And plenty saying Farage should stop trying to exploit the situation.

Edited Wednesday at 22:50 by badgerx16

[ecuk268]

This is part of the Judge's summing-up.

The pathologist said that nothing could have been done to save him as the internal bleeding was so bad.

[Osvaldorama]

Yes because the evil prick watched him die for 10 minutes first: 

[The very right reverend]

It would be interesting to see how much time these bin throwers get compared to breaking a coppers nose in an airport.........................

[Turkish]

17 minutes ago, The very right reverend said:

It would be interesting to see how much time these bin throwers get compared to breaking a coppers nose in an airport.........................

The bin throwing was impressive, having watched years of hooligans being unable to throw plastic chairs 5 yards to see bins being thrown that distances tells me all is not lost.

[tdmickey3]

32 minutes ago, The very right reverend said:

It would be interesting to see how much time these bin throwers get compared to breaking a coppers nose in an airport.........................

Will depend on the judge as with all cases

Edited 21 hours ago by tdmickey3

[whelk]

Just now, tdmickey3 said:

Depend on the judge as with all cases

A judge cannot sentence if a jury finds not guilty.  

[tdmickey3]

12 minutes ago, whelk said:

A judge cannot sentence if a jury finds not guilty.  

True

 

[aintforever]

1 hour ago, The very right reverend said:

It would be interesting to see how much time these bin throwers get compared to breaking a coppers nose in an airport.........................

They might hand out unusually severe punishments for the bin throwers to deter future unrest. Just like they did in 2011 (when the majority of defendants were black/asian or mixed race).  

[Gloucester Saint]

Apartheid Elon launches another witch-hunt in error and his and Rupert/Nigel/Tommy’s Neanderthals do the rest https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg7pl7zj024o

[saint francis]

5 hours ago, ecuk268 said:

This is part of the Judge's summing-up.

The pathologist said that nothing could have been done to save him as the internal bleeding was so bad.

I agree with this.  When people are stabbed in this way external bleeding is often minimal and may not have been visible when clothed. The police are lied to constantly and after he said he'd been stabbed, "I don't think you have mate" was probably his impression at the time before checking.  The police may deserve criticism for not checking for wounds sooner but I'm not convinced the rage against them is deserved.  

[Sheaf Saint]

3 hours ago, The very right reverend said:

It would be interesting to see how much time these bin throwers get compared to breaking a coppers nose in an airport.........................

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgz2xq7ykvo

Man admits violent disorder at Henry Nowak protest

The 44-year-old, who has 25 previous convictions for 55 offences, was remanded in custody to be sentenced at Southampton Crown Court on 16 July.

The court heard Frost's previous offending included four instances of public disorder and possession of a blade.

Nola Bond, prosecuting, told the court Frost had thrown dustbins and a chair at police.

She added: "He had around his neck a dog lead with a carabiner and wrapped it around his knuckles and taunted police officers to come and take it off him."

 

Sounds like a nice chap 🙄

 

[The Wyvern]

6 hours ago, ecuk268 said:

This is part of the Judge's summing-up.

The pathologist said that nothing could have been done to save him as the internal bleeding was so bad.

Why did they arrest and handcuff Nowak though? That’s the bit I don’t get. On what grounds did they make that decision? And even if they couldn’t see the stab wounds, if the argument is it was too late to save his life then clearly he’d really be struggling at that point?

[saint francis]

Just now, The Wyvern said:

Why did they arrest and handcuff Nowak though? That’s the bit I don’t get. On what grounds did they make that decision? And even if they couldn’t see the stab wounds, if the argument is it was too late to save his life then clearly he’d really be struggling at that point?

They cuffed him on suspicion of assault.  Digwa said he was punched and had his turban knocked off, what we now know to be blatant lies. 

[The Wyvern]

Just now, saint francis said:

They cuffed him on suspicion of assault.  Digwa said he was punched and had his turban knocked off, what we now know to be blatant lies. 

I see. But if the argument is when the police arrived it was too late to save his life surely he must have been really struggling? 

[saint francis]

3 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

I see. But if the argument is when the police arrived it was too late to save his life surely he must have been really struggling? 

Yes and from the footage I saw, he was on the floor looking incapacitated.  In mitigation it may have initially been perceived as intoxication?  It also appeared pretty dark.  I don't want to be the one justifying the police actions if it turns out that there were serious errors after more facts come out, but I think the criticism will end up coming down to - how long after he'd said he'd been stabbed was he checked for wounds - because in the footage I saw it was cut inbetween.  If it was a few seconds, so be it.  Much longer than that is perhaps a different story.

[whelk]

51 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Apartheid Elon launches another witch-hunt in error and his and Rupert/Nigel/Tommy’s Neanderthals do the rest https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cg7pl7zj024o

Says all that these cunts always want to attack people. No compassion just anger under the guise of a cause. Scum of the earth

[whelk]

28 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgz2xq7ykvo

Man admits violent disorder at Henry Nowak protest

The 44-year-old, who has 25 previous convictions for 55 offences, was remanded in custody to be sentenced at Southampton Crown Court on 16 July.

The court heard Frost's previous offending included four instances of public disorder and possession of a blade.

Nola Bond, prosecuting, told the court Frost had thrown dustbins and a chair at police.

She added: "He had around his neck a dog lead with a carabiner and wrapped it around his knuckles and taunted police officers to come and take it off him."

 

Sounds like a nice chap 🙄

 

Just wants to be heard. Put the cunt down and society would be better for it

[benjii]

1 hour ago, Sheaf Saint said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvgz2xq7ykvo

Man admits violent disorder at Henry Nowak protest

The 44-year-old, who has 25 previous convictions for 55 offences, was remanded in custody to be sentenced at Southampton Crown Court on 16 July.

The court heard Frost's previous offending included four instances of public disorder and possession of a blade.

Nola Bond, prosecuting, told the court Frost had thrown dustbins and a chair at police.

She added: "He had around his neck a dog lead with a carabiner and wrapped it around his knuckles and taunted police officers to come and take it off him."

 

Sounds like a nice chap 🙄

 

Just a good old patriot.

[benjii]

"Possession of a blade". Fucking knob head.

[Badger]

5 hours ago, Turkish said:

The bin throwing was impressive, having watched years of hooligans being unable to throw plastic chairs 5 yards to see bins being thrown that distances tells me all is not lost.

Another area Brits can excel at in the next Olympics 

[ecuk268]

1 hour ago, The Wyvern said:

Why did they arrest and handcuff Nowak though? That’s the bit I don’t get. On what grounds did they make that decision? And even if they couldn’t see the stab wounds, if the argument is it was too late to save his life then clearly he’d really be struggling at that point?

The 999 call reported a racial assault. This was backed up by the relatives of the Sikh guy at the scene so that was all that the police knew.

As the judge said, it's not unknown for perpatrators to feign injury to avoid being cuffed.  As soon as they realised that he was injured, they released him and performed CPR.

[egg]

1 hour ago, The Wyvern said:

I see. But if the argument is when the police arrived it was too late to save his life surely he must have been really struggling? 

It's not an argument, it's the judge's determination based on pathology evidence. 

[The Wyvern]

34 minutes ago, egg said:

It's not an argument, it's the judge's determination based on pathology evidence. 

Then it makes it even harder to believe he wasn’t clearly struggling at that point doesn’t it. 

[The Wyvern]

41 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

The 999 call reported a racial assault. This was backed up by the relatives of the Sikh guy at the scene so that was all that the police knew.

As the judge said, it's not unknown for perpatrators to feign injury to avoid being cuffed.  As soon as they realised that he was injured, they released him and performed CPR.

You would hope trained police officers would be able to recognise someone stabbed multiple times that is close to death and tell the difference from someone who’s just committed an assault and about to do a runner. 

[egg]

4 minutes ago, The Wyvern said:

Then it makes it even harder to believe he wasn’t clearly struggling at that point doesn’t it. 

I'm not sure where you're going with this. We saw the footage, and we've seen the judges findings. 

[Osvaldorama]

16 hours ago, whelk said:

Says all that these cunts always want to attack people. No compassion just anger under the guise of a cause. Scum of the earth

The thing I don’t get about you liberals is.. why are you more angry at the people standing up for the country, protecting our way of life than the criminals? 
 

Elon musk is a hero for buying X. Literally the only the way the truth of how corrupt the establishment are ever gets out. 
 

Without X, no one would ever know about this case as it would have been covered up. Same as the rape gangs. 
 

The judiciary system is completely broken. The legacy media is complicit. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Osvaldorama

[tdmickey3]

13 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

The thing I don’t get about you liberals is.. why are you more angry at the people standing up for the country, protecting our way of life than the criminals? 
 

Elon musk is a hero for buying X. Literally the only the way the truth of how corrupt the establishment are ever gets out. 
 

Without X, no one would ever know about this case as it would have been covered up. Same as the rape gangs. 
 

The judiciary system is completely broken. The legacy media is complicit. 

Smashing up local residents parked cars , is standing up for this country is it.

You are just as bad as they are, scum with social media addled brains

[Osvaldorama]

8 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Smashing up local residents parked cars , is standing up for this country is it.

You are just as bad as they are, scum with social media addled brains

See? You’re so indoctrinated that you throw insults left right and centre. 

Edited 1 hour ago by Osvaldorama

[tdmickey3]

5 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

See? You’re so indoctrinated that you throw insults left right and centre. 

It doesn't  damage people cars though does it unlike the cretins you support/encourage

[Osvaldorama]

3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

It doesn't  damage people cars though does it unlike the cretins you support/encourage

Where have I ever said I encourage smashing up cars? 
 

I encourage people to stand up against the blatant anti-white racism that has seeped into our government and institutions. I wouldn’t encourage violence though. 

[ecuk268]

1 hour ago, Osvaldorama said:

Elon musk is a hero for buying X. Literally the only the way the truth of how corrupt the establishment are ever gets out. 
 

Without X, no one would ever know about this case as it would have been covered up. Same as the rape gangs. 
 

 

Are you also happy about Musk creating Grok which created 3m sexualised images of women and small girls in a period of 11 days? 

What evidence have you that the stabbing would have been covered up? The media contact the police on a daily basis for reports of local activity.

Would the boy's parents have kept quiet if the police tried to cover up? What about the trial?