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24 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Sulemana is all fart and no end product..... 

He was certainly not all that in the EPL I would agree, but I’m sort of keen to know if the EFL with Still training him might unlock his potential. If only he and Dibling were not so keen on trying to beat 5 players to score a Worldy we might have had a better GD last season.

Posted
1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

Ings has two goals in the last two years and isn't fit. Have you learned nothing from Lallana this season?

Just my opinion, but thank you for correcting me Mr Oracle.

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I knew someone within the club for a short while that was a wealth of knowledge, always fascinating to know what rumours were happening.

Not had anything for a while now, think they moved on pre-relegation two years ago.

That said I did know someone who mentioned about Aaron Ramsdale being done nearly a month earlier than announced and that it was simply a case of when rather than if. 😅

Not heard anything this summer, in some ways I’m honestly not bothered.
Transfers are so overhyped now, a bit like the Premier League as a whole, boredline showbiz than anything else.

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58 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

He was certainly not all that in the EPL I would agree, but I’m sort of keen to know if the EFL with Still training him might unlock his potential. If only he and Dibling were not so keen on trying to beat 5 players to score a Worldy we might have had a better GD last season.

Tyler and Kameldeen had nobody to pass to up front that could hold it and give it back. They barely had a midfield that could do that at times apart from Mat. 

Both would benefit from playing in a better team, with a proper striker. 

Nicking the ball on the edge of our penalty area like KS had to do so many times and then have to go past three just to get some space was only way he’d get a sniff if the ball - just pointless. Having Tyler labouring to cover a left winger attacking us or  “ putting in a defensive shift” another plain waste of resources. They are both good attacking players and when they are in a proper team you will see that. 

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4 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

Ings is far better than what we’ve got.  Would be a good free transfer.

I'd prefer Archer up front to be honest. Ings has been broken for years.

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4 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

Ings is far better than what we’ve got.  Would be a good free transfer.

I think he will end up at Wrexham or Birmingham, start the season well with a few goals, get injured, and there will be minimal involvement for the rest of the season.

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if Ings is buying a house outside Winchester which needs a load of renovation / building work  it doesn't necessarily mean he is planning to live there next year.  It could be a long term plan to live in Winchester once he finally retires from playing football which makes sense given he's originally from there.  

For all we know it could take a year more to do all the work on the house he has just bought and he is planning on buying or renting somewhere to live wherever he ends up playing next season 

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3 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

He was certainly not all that in the EPL I would agree, but I’m sort of keen to know if the EFL with Still training him might unlock his potential. If only he and Dibling were not so keen on trying to beat 5 players to score a Worldy we might have had a better GD last season.

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This is the record for some of our players in the Championship last time. I know which one I am not sort of keen to see again personally. Only one of them seems to regularly get bought up as some sort of untapped potential on here though. 

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8 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Beggars can’t be choosers; and quite frankly as much as we aren’t in a facial position to get rid of him on the cheap, why waste everyone’s time when he isn’t wanted and takes up a vast amount of wages?

Get rid now, take this down as a lesson, and a huge loss - one that we’re already aware of - and move on.

Agree, however this is yet another all too regular occurrence. The loss occurs at the purchase stage with SR rather than the sale.

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1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

I'd prefer Archer up front to be honest. Ings has been broken for years.

I think Archer is worth persevering with.  He can finish, but the system last year really didn’t suit him.  Hopefully that won’t be the case next season.

Ings on a free is still a no-brainer for me though.  His movement in the penalty area is brilliant, especially getting in front of the first man for those crosses.

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9 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I think Archer is worth persevering with.  He can finish, but the system last year really didn’t suit him.  Hopefully that won’t be the case next season.

Ings on a free is still a no-brainer for me though.  His movement in the penalty area is brilliant, especially getting in front of the first man for those crosses.

Broadly agree - there is a finisher in Archer and he may yet come good.

Ings in for me depends on who goes and how any wages are structured. He could be a good option in the squad - he’s not the player he was when he was with us but we’ve not really got close to matching him since…

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18 minutes ago, UpweySaint said:

Broadly agree - there is a finisher in Archer and he may yet come good.

Ings in for me depends on who goes and how any wages are structured. He could be a good option in the squad - he’s not the player he was when he was with us but we’ve not really got close to matching him since…

The main thing is if we can afford Ings and Stewart given that both could break down. Archer, Stewart and Ings feels too light and Archer, Stewart, Ings and A.N.other feels like not a sensible use of our resources. If we didn't have Stewart then I'd agree that Ings would be worth a place but with him I'm not sure how we can justify it as much as I'd like to. 

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1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

I think Archer is worth persevering with.  He can finish, but the system last year really didn’t suit him.  Hopefully that won’t be the case next season.

Ings on a free is still a no-brainer for me though.  His movement in the penalty area is brilliant, especially getting in front of the first man for those crosses.

His wages are huge though, and he can't get onto the end of a cross if he's injured.

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1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

 

The main thing is if we can afford Ings and Stewart given that both could break down. Archer, Stewart and Ings feels too light and Archer, Stewart, Ings and A.N.other feels like not a sensible use of our resources. If we didn't have Stewart then I'd agree that Ings would be worth a place but with him I'm not sure how we can justify it as much as I'd like to. 

Fair point, difficult to justify carrying them both with the fitness risks. If Onuachu and Armstrong go and we bring in a younger striker on a lower wage who may need a bit of bedding in I could conceivably see us having Ings and Stewart in reserve with Archer the main man. If honest I don’t see Ings as likely but I wouldn’t be unhappy if we signed him.

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1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

His wages are huge though, and he can't get onto the end of a cross if he's injured.

If he is out of his contract, his wages will be what the next club deems fit. 

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1 hour ago, UpweySaint said:

Fair point, difficult to justify carrying them both with the fitness risks. If Onuachu and Armstrong go and we bring in a younger striker on a lower wage who may need a bit of bedding in I could conceivably see us having Ings and Stewart in reserve with Archer the main man. If honest I don’t see Ings as likely but I wouldn’t be unhappy if we signed him.

Could we really rely on two possibly injured strikers and then Archer who may or may not do anything next year? 

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3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Could we really rely on two possibly injured strikers and then Archer who may or may not do anything next year? 

Answer is of course “no”.
 

But this is Saints and in the past we’ve always been clever, and have known best. 

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Archer scored 11 goals and had 6 assists in 20 appearances his last time in the Championship. Not saying he is guaranteed to replicate that, but I certainly would bet on him being quite useful next season.

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Posted
9 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

He was certainly not all that in the EPL I would agree, but I’m sort of keen to know if the EFL with Still training him might unlock his potential. If only he and Dibling were not so keen on trying to beat 5 players to score a Worldy we might have had a better GD last season.

Potential?

 

Too much Champ Manager.

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, MilwaukeeSaint said:

Archer scored 11 goals and had 6 assists in 20 appearances his last time in the Championship. Not saying he is guaranteed to replicate that, but I certainly would bet on him being quite useful next season.

 

 

Just like BBD?

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