Willo of Whiteley Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago Watford signing Nestory Irankunda from Bayern is a coup. The type of player we should’ve been all over, this guy is so quick and technically good. He’ll walk the Championship and go on to bigger things.
chiknsmack Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 3 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said: but who really knew who Quarshie or Downs were six weeks ago? Tim Lederer.
SaintLondon Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago I have been reliably informed that it's going to be an extremely busy few weeks with comings and going. I was told, it'll be fun for the fans but not for the team doing it behind the scenes. 5 1
saintant Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 23 minutes ago, SaintLondon said: I have been reliably informed that it's going to be an extremely busy few weeks with comings and going. I was told, it'll be fun for the fans but not for the team doing it behind the scenes. Bring it on and let's hope for some exciting signings. 2
beatlesaint Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 33 minutes ago, SaintLondon said: I have been reliably informed that it's going to be an extremely busy few weeks with comings and going. I was told, it'll be fun for the fans but not for the team doing it behind the scenes. Lets hope fun for the fans means rejoicing at saying goodbye to some of the shite and hello to decent pedigree replacements. 4
Saint86 Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago (edited) 39 minutes ago, SaintLondon said: I have been reliably informed that it's going to be an extremely busy few weeks with comings and going. I was told, it'll be fun for the fans but not for the team doing it behind the scenes. When you look at our squad and likely "goings" - the only way i can see that being particularly busy is if we're losing the players we'd actually prefer to keep, which is a shame. Wonder if the strategy this year is to built a "best of" the (German) 2nd tier. Edited 13 hours ago by Saint86
Saint Fan CaM Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 39 minutes ago, SaintLondon said: I have been reliably informed that it's going to be an extremely busy few weeks with comings and going. I was told, it'll be fun for the fans but not for the team doing it behind the scenes. Let’s hope that’s a positive. As per the past, it’s the best players that have left, replaced with lesser players meaning the overall quality of the squad drops. That’s been happening for some years resulting in the shitshow of last season. 1
Saint NL Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 42 minutes ago, SaintLondon said: I have been reliably informed that it's going to be an extremely busy few weeks with comings and going. I was told, it'll be fun for the fans but not for the team doing it behind the scenes. My heart bleeds for the poor guys making these deals, must be torture for them to sit in an air conditioned office and fire off a few emails. Hope they can pull through xx 1 8
suewhistle Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 19 hours ago, Chez said: I am starting to think that it's probably only Only Connect contestants that have the brains to get your jokes. Only Connect? That's the foreword to Howard's End by EM Forster..
Challenger Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, SaintLondon said: I have been reliably informed that it's going to be an extremely busy few weeks with comings and going. I was told, it'll be fun for the fans but not for the team doing it behind the scenes. Fun, or laughing at what they do ? 1
kitch Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago I worry about this Gibbs-White situation. If Spurs (or anyone) prise him away, how tempting is Matty F going to look to Forest?
Pwoite Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Smallbone, Manning, Stephens, Armstrong for example. No change in Only he can’t as the opposition will be different, his management will be different and the confidence level should be different. However Armstrong performed last season, the season before, without question more relevant, Arma was top scorer. Maybe he should watch those videos. Arguably, Smallbone wasn’t too shabby in the Championship and Stephens did a job. Equally, Manning seemed better in the EPL than the Championship, but most of us have Wellington as our preferred starter.
Chez Posted 13 hours ago Posted 13 hours ago 5 minutes ago, kitch said: I worry about this Gibbs-White situation. If Spurs (or anyone) prise him away, how tempting is Matty F going to look to Forest? Whether Gibbs-White goes or not Fernandes seems to be very much on their radar. 2
Chez Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 4 hours ago, hypochondriac said: Do Leeds or Burnley have any players not good enough for the prem worth pinching? Might be a good place to start. Do we really want to bring in players that Leeds and Burnley are sure are not good for the PL? I don't see the point in that. We are talking about players that are not even considered `fringe PL players, they are considered 'championship at best'. We have plenty of those. 6
redkeith Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Chez said: Whether Gibbs-White goes or not Fernandes seems to be very much on their radar. If Gibbs White joins Spurs, I can't see Maddison staying . Maybe he will end up at Forest ? 1
Chez Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 54 minutes ago, Saint86 said: When you look at our squad and likely "goings" - the only way i can see that being particularly busy is if we're losing the players we'd actually prefer to keep, which is a shame. Wonder if the strategy this year is to built a "best of" the (German) 2nd tier. I guess that depends if we want to keep players like BBD, Armstrong, Bednarek, ABK, Taylor, Edozie, Fraser, Edwards... all of which could possibly move.
CSA96 Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 33 minutes ago, kitch said: I worry about this Gibbs-White situation. If Spurs (or anyone) prise him away, how tempting is Matty F going to look to Forest? Fernandes has the same agent as Nuno too, so that's something to watch out for 1
hypochondriac Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 23 minutes ago, Chez said: Do we really want to bring in players that Leeds and Burnley are sure are not good for the PL? I don't see the point in that. We are talking about players that are not even considered `fringe PL players, they are considered 'championship at best'. We have plenty of those. On loan I do 100%. Someone mentioned the winger Leeds had last year as a possibility. Lets not forget the likes of THB who didn't work out in the prem but was great the season before. Of course we want some players we think can do a good job in the prem but realistically we aren't going to be able to afford that for every position in the squad- hence Rothwell, Brooks etc last time. 1
hypochondriac Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 36 minutes ago, kitch said: I worry about this Gibbs-White situation. If Spurs (or anyone) prise him away, how tempting is Matty F going to look to Forest? I wouldn't worry about it. Almost certainly the club will know if he is likely to go or not. If he wants to go there's not an awful lot we can do. We just need to replace with top championship quality. 2
Dusic Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago (edited) I get the feeling that this summer the club are fairly well prepared. Of course not everything is in their control but most situations seem clear. We probably have four players that are likely to generate a decent fee and imagine we probably need to sell at least two financially and then perhaps might be able to keep one if we are lucky. Those are obviously Ramsdale, Fernandes, Dibling, THB We then have a small set of players who we are probably building around and it would be a blow if we ended up losing them. This is the likes of Charles, Downes and Archer. The rest pretty much we could easily absorb any relatively unplanned departures and equally could find use for the players if they stay as most are of decent Championship quality/experience. We are in a position where we only need to sign replacements for a key outgoing which isn't a bad situation to be in and surely makes planning easier because we have known for probably 7 months the four players who will likely require replacing. Edited 12 hours ago by Dusic 2
Give it to Ron Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago Well I for one do not expect Fernandes to stay or be here at end of the window his agent will be working hard to get him a better club. It’s a shame but last season was a complete shit show and do not blame any player wanting to better themselves. Tin hat on but let’s be realistic would you stay if you had his opportunities and ability as loyalty is for fans.
hypochondriac Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Well I for one do not expect Fernandes to stay or be here at end of the window his agent will be working hard to get him a better club. It’s a shame but last season was a complete shit show and do not blame any player wanting to better themselves. Tin hat on but let’s be realistic would you stay if you had his opportunities and ability as loyalty is for fans. I doubt any saints fan expects him to stay. He might do though which would be a very welcome surprise. I just hope we have the top quality headline signing to replace him if he does go. We've had long enough to prepare. 2
Oldandtired Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 49 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: We just need to replace with top championship quality. Is that not 'here we go again' Win league with championship quality Get promoted PL..oh sh*t 2
Saint_lambden Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Oldandtired said: Is that not 'here we go again' Win league with championship quality Get promoted PL..oh sh*t Basically yes. Like last time, we don't need to spend the earth to get out of this division but need to be far more ambitious and, frankly, accurate with our recruitment if (hopefully when) we then get to the PL like Sunderland are doing this summer. They may well go down but you can't fault their efforts in the transfer market to try and avoid that. Burnley's business meanwhile looks similar to ours from last summer - not breaking the £15m marker and signing permanently the guys they had on loan that got them to the Premier League but who most likely won't have the quality to keep them there. 1
hypochondriac Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 minute ago, Oldandtired said: Is that not 'here we go again' Win league with championship quality Get promoted PL..oh sh*t That's life really and hopefully next time we are much more hard nosed about binning off those who aren't going to cut it. Reminder that Dean Hammond was our captain but that didn't matter when we got to the prem. 2
Saint Fan CaM Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: That's life really and hopefully next time we are much more hard nosed about binning off those who aren't going to cut it. Reminder that Dean Hammond was our captain but that didn't matter when we got to the prem. I think we all know that Stephens and Manning will still be stinking the place out!
Chez Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Let’s hope that’s a positive. As per the past, it’s the best players that have left, replaced with lesser players meaning the overall quality of the squad drops. That’s been happening for some years resulting in the shitshow of last season. Not many sides get better after relegation. We have lost KWP, Onuachu, Sulemana and Lumley. Downs and Quarshie have come the other way. Is the squad strengthened? difficult to know until we see those two players play a few games. I think it's fair to say we will lose a couple of our `wanted' and better quality players (let's say Ramsdale and Fernandes for argument's sake). So, to stand still (in terms of squad quality) we need to find two players as good as those, which is very unlikely. We then need to see maybe 6 more players depart (let's say ABK, Taylor, BBD, Armstrong, Bednarek and Edwards) and then bring in, maybe, 3 to replace them. All three replacements will need to be improvements for the squad to be strengthened. In reality, the quality is not going to increase. We might be stay about the same, if we are lucky, and that would be a win.
Wade Garrett Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, Pwoite said: Only he can’t as the opposition will be different, his management will be different and the confidence level should be different. However Armstrong performed last season, the season before, without question more relevant, Arma was top scorer. Maybe he should watch those videos. Arguably, Smallbone wasn’t too shabby in the Championship and Stephens did a job. Equally, Manning seemed better in the EPL than the Championship, but most of us have Wellington as our preferred starter. Fuck me, I hope you’re not Will Still 😉. 1
Chez Posted 11 hours ago Posted 11 hours ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: On loan I do 100%. Someone mentioned the winger Leeds had last year as a possibility. Lets not forget the likes of THB who didn't work out in the prem but was great the season before. Of course we want some players we think can do a good job in the prem but realistically we aren't going to be able to afford that for every position in the squad- hence Rothwell, Brooks etc last time. These are two different classifications of players, aren't they? In Solomon, you are talking about a player that Leeds loaned from Spurs and would perhaps be interested in signing at the right price, not a player Leeds are offloading because they don't see them as being good enough for the PL. I don't want Leeds cast offs. They are not fringe PL players, they are championship at best players. Brooks was a finge PL player (maybe better than that) as apposed to a player a newly promoted side immediately discarded.
Chez Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 34 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: That's life really and hopefully next time we are much more hard nosed about binning off those who aren't going to cut it. Reminder that Dean Hammond was our captain but that didn't matter when we got to the prem. I thought I'd look back to 2011/12 - our first season back in the championship - to see if we signed players to take us up and then were happy to part ways once we did. In the summer we signed Fox, Cork and de Ridder, then Tadanari Lee and Sharp followed. A year later (having got promoted), we didn't release any of them. Whether that was because we wanted them in the squad, no one wanted them or they didn't want to go, I don't know. But only Cork and Fox started a PL game that season, so three of the five signings were deemed not up to it right from the off.
Turkish Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Chez said: I thought I'd look back to 2011/12 - our first season back in the championship - to see if we signed players to take us up and then were happy to part ways once we did. In the summer we signed Fox, Cork and de Ridder, then Tadanari Lee and Sharp followed. A year later (having got promoted), we didn't release any of them. Whether that was because we wanted them in the squad, no one wanted them or they didn't want to go, I don't know. But only Cork and Fox started a PL game that season, so three of the five signings were deemed not up to it right from the off. Brought is Hooliveld as well didnt we? Started the first few games but out of his depth in the premier league. Yoshida came in and partnered Fonte for the rest of that season before we got Lovren a year later who made a difference.
hypochondriac Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Turkish said: Brought is Hooliveld as well didnt we? Started the first few games but out of his depth in the premier league. Yoshida came in and partnered Fonte for the rest of that season before we got Lovren a year later who made a difference. Indeed. Huge difference to last year where the likes of Stephens, Smallbone, Onuachu etc were all getting regular ganetime. Scandalous really.
Mattio Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 6 minutes ago, goodymatt said: Would we not be losing money with whatever sell on fee Man City get?
hypochondriac Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago Wonder where sarmiento will end up this summer? Does he fancy a third promotion in three years?
hypochondriac Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 10 minutes ago, goodymatt said: This feels inevitable to me and a position where we can afford to lose a few.
Doctoroncall Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, Dusic said: I get the feeling that this summer the club are fairly well prepared. Of course not everything is in their control but most situations seem clear. We probably have four players that are likely to generate a decent fee and imagine we probably need to sell at least two financially and then perhaps might be able to keep one if we are lucky. Those are obviously Ramsdale, Fernandes, Dibling, THB. Yeah, best to avoid payment in potatoes or other goods. 😜 Why do we need to sell at least two?
Willo of Whiteley Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago I’d like to have been a fly on the wall when the likes of Brereton, Harwood-Bellis and Archer said to Will Still in their first meeting that they want to leave and WS being like “you’re an absolutely shit player, you’ve had a piss poor season - you’re lucky we aren’t kicking you out”. 🤣 1
Doctoroncall Posted 10 hours ago Posted 10 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Mattio said: Would we not be losing money with whatever sell on fee Man City get? Sell on only applies to profit. 2
Pwoite Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago 1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said: Fuck me, I hope you’re not Will Still 😉. I can assure you I’m not, but once again you’re missing the point. Or, maybe I am. Was that a sexual invitation to anyone not red headed?
Oldandtired Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago It appears the Bournemouth option, if ever there was one, has disappeared for Ramsdale. 1
Gloucester Saint Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Linked with this fella. Not much available on him and might be the agent hawking around https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlaye_Sylla and https://foot-africa.com/en/news/southampton-want-to-sign-morlaye-sylla-will-the-deal-go-through-799436/
Gloucester Saint Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago Also this from Alfie House. If he’s not going to be competitive in the Championship even as an impact option at 23, what was the point of signing him? He looked quite lively at the weekend but perhaps Still doesn’t think he has the physicality? Not overly motivating for the player either. 2
Disco Stu Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago Perhaps we're waiting to see if Sylla will be an improvement on Matsuki before making a decision.
Lighthouse Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago I quite like that training shirt, not seen it in the online store yet.
sfc4prem Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, hypochondriac said: I doubt any saints fan expects him to stay. He might do though which would be a very welcome surprise. I just hope we have the top quality headline signing to replace him if he does go. We've had long enough to prepare. Our headline signing to replace Romeo Lavia was Shea Charles 😅
Gloucester Saint Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Perhaps we're waiting to see if Sylla will be an improvement on Matsuki before making a decision. Possibly. Bit more on Sylla here https://africasoccer.com/guinean-midfielder-morlaye-sylla-attracts-european-interest-ahead-of-arouca-exit/ Sounds like Bundesliga 2 the most likely destination, could be Saints name used to hurry one of them up to formalise an offer so the agent gets their cut. Braga were linked in January and they’d have seen quite a bit of him. 27 next few days, it doesn’t shout ‘Saints/SR signing’ but we will see. 2
Weston Super Saint Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, hypochondriac said: Wonder where sarmiento will end up this summer? Does he fancy a third promotion in three years? Promotion? Aren't we following last summer's masterplan and recruiting league 1 level players ready for next season? 1
Wade Garrett Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 1 hour ago, Pwoite said: I can assure you I’m not, but once again you’re missing the point. Or, maybe I am. Was that a sexual invitation to anyone not red headed? ‘Missing the point’ and completely disagreeing with your opinion on Armstrong, Stephens, Smallbone and Manning are two completely different things. Apologies for my colloquialism, it certainly wasn’t a sexual invitation. I am very happy with the old ball and chain thank you very much.
hypochondriac Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 26 minutes ago, sfc4prem said: Our headline signing to replace Romeo Lavia was Shea Charles 😅 TBF he was one of the best I was his position last season in the Championship. I'd say THB and Downes were the top championship performers last time out and it's undeniable they were superb. We need players of at least that quality. 2
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