Who do we want next as Saints manager?

[Rohl With It]

20 hours ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said:

For everyone jizzing their pants at the prospect of Danny Rohl, he finished the season with 1 more point than 35 year old Tom Cleverly at fucking Watford in his first ever management job.

Sheffield Wednesday 58, Watford 57.

 

Danny also finished this season with less points per game than the previous season - all after bringing 9 new players in.  

He is now touting himself round in the German Press.  All while still having 2 years left on his Wednesday contract.

[Willo of Whiteley]

So… Danny Rohl anyone? 😅

I hope the club have had something up their sleeve.

[Whitey Grandad]

25 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

No worries mate. I know nuance and context are difficult for you Mike Basset wannabes but always happy to help you along the way.

Mike Bassett reached a World Cup final.

Just sayin’…

[OldNick]

45 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I know, I would take 4-4-fucking-2 over false 9s and inside full-backs any day of the week.

 

46 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

I know, I would take 4-4-fucking-2 over false 9s and inside full-backs any day of the week.

Not forgetting forwards on the wings with nobody in the middle, workings of a genius. Cant fathom why we hardly score

[ally_uk]

We can do better than Rohl...... 

 

 

[Toussaint]

5 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

We can do better than Rohl...... 

 

 

Can we? Do you think we are an attractive option for anyone “better” at the moment? 

[Saint Fan CaM]

Other than the synergies 😉 the trajectory of how Spors is assembling his footballing related team with ex-777 people would suggest that he’s all in for Rohl - the final piece of the jigsaw? Makes so much sense and who knows, it might be the heaven-made match we’ve been crying out for? 🤞

[Nordic Saint]

34 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Other than the synergies 😉 the trajectory of how Spors is assembling his footballing related team with ex-777 people would suggest that he’s all in for Rohl - the final piece of the jigsaw? Makes so much sense and who knows, it might be the heaven-made match we’ve been crying out for? 🤞

You mean crashing downwards disastrously? 

"777 Partners have been sued by multiple organizations for unpaid debts and contract breaches with lawsuits describing their financial practices as a "house of cards" and a "sprawling fraudulent enterprise"

777 Partners - Wikipedia

Standard Liège game off after fans block team bus in protest against 777 Partners | Standard Liege | The Guardian

Edited yesterday at 10:27 by Nordic Saint

[Dusic]

48 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

We can do better than Rohl...... 

 

 

On what criteria are you judging?

[Nolan]

14 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

You mean crashing downwards disastrously? 

"777 Partners have been sued by multiple organizations for unpaid debts and contract breaches with lawsuits describing their financial practices as a "house of cards" and a "sprawling fraudulent enterprise"

777 Partners - Wikipedia

Standard Liège game off after fans block team bus in protest against 777 Partners | Standard Liege | The Guardian

I think Spors' job as "Global Sports Director" probably didn't intersect with 777 Partners Lawyers or Bankers.

[Nordic Saint]

Just now, Nolan said:

I think Spors' job as "Global Sports Director" probably didn't intersect with 777 Partners Lawyers or Bankers.

You mean that in the 4 years he was there as 777's sports director he didn't know what was going on? Isn't he very bright? The fans of the teams he was directing seemed to know. 777 were a bigger disaster for the football clubs they owned than Sport Republic.

[CB Fry]

3 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

That’s a terrible click bait article and headline for what is actually said ffs 🤣

Man says generic vague ambitions in local interview shocker. More on this developing story when we get it

Edited yesterday at 10:44 by CB Fry

[Nolan]

4 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

You mean that in the 4 years he was there as 777's sports director he didn't know what was going on? Isn't he very bright? The fans of the teams he was directing seemed to know. 777 were a bigger disaster for the football clubs they owned than Sport Republic.

how much does the average employee know about how the top people who work in their company deal with their contracts or finances? he was an employee. 

[Sunglasses Ron]

Just been to St Mary's as heard a rumour that the club was voting on who the new manager was going to be.

Black smoke though so no decision as of yet...

Edited yesterday at 10:59 by Sunglasses Ron

[Nordic Saint]

5 minutes ago, Nolan said:

how much does the average employee know about how the top people who work in their company deal with their contracts or finances? he was an employee. 

Well as their sport director he must surely have been aware what was happening at the football clubs he was supposedly directing?

"Sevilla, are currently rock bottom of LaLiga. Meanwhile, Standard Liege are protesting against 777, who took over the club in March 2022.

'Your Galaxy shouldn’t damage our future!' their banners read, calling out their owners lack of investment and ambition shown in this summer's transfer window as they went six games without a win earlier this month.

Hertha Berlin were relegated last season, finishing bottom of the league after 777 had taken control in November.

Vasco da Gama are also in the relegation zone in Serie A."

Protests, relegation and rock bottom: Everton's new owners have grim track record in football | talkSPORT

[Weston Super Saint]

13 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

Well as their sport director he must surely have been aware what was happening at the football clubs he was supposedly directing?

"Sevilla, are currently rock bottom of LaLiga. Meanwhile, Standard Liege are protesting against 777, who took over the club in March 2022.

'Your Galaxy shouldn’t damage our future!' their banners read, calling out their owners lack of investment and ambition shown in this summer's transfer window as they went six games without a win earlier this month.

Hertha Berlin were relegated last season, finishing bottom of the league after 777 had taken control in November.

Vasco da Gama are also in the relegation zone in Serie A."

Protests, relegation and rock bottom: Everton's new owners have grim track record in football | talkSPORT

Seems like the perfect match for us.

We'll be tearing up league 1 in no time.

[leesaint88]

12 minutes ago, Nordic Saint said:

Well as their sport director he must surely have been aware what was happening at the football clubs he was supposedly directing?

"Sevilla, are currently rock bottom of LaLiga. Meanwhile, Standard Liege are protesting against 777, who took over the club in March 2022.

'Your Galaxy shouldn’t damage our future!' their banners read, calling out their owners lack of investment and ambition shown in this summer's transfer window as they went six games without a win earlier this month.

Hertha Berlin were relegated last season, finishing bottom of the league after 777 had taken control in November.

Vasco da Gama are also in the relegation zone in Serie A."

Protests, relegation and rock bottom: Everton's new owners have grim track record in football | talkSPORT

That is an article from 2023 though? 777 aren't the greatest, but Sevilla and Vasco both stayed up and Hertha was a different problem all together, they were in the shit during the Windhorst era and would of gone down no matter what..

[tdmickey3]

19 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

Just been to St Mary's as heard a rumour that the club was voting on who the new manager was going to be.

Black smoke though so no decision as of yet...

Be more like this surely 

Edited yesterday at 11:18 by tdmickey3

[tdmickey3]

1 hour ago, ally_uk said:

We can do better than Rohl...... 

 

 

Not if compared to our recent appointments

[Sunglasses Ron]

9 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

Be more like this surely 

Given their incompetence, our lot would probably burn the place to the ground.

[Fabrice29]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

Man says generic vague ambitions in local interview shocker. More on this developing story when we get it

Looking forward to us appointing a manager who has clearly stated they have no intention of working at the top level and trying to inspire us to promotion. 

Edited yesterday at 12:03 by Fabrice29

[Dman]

1 hour ago, CB Fry said:

Man says generic vague ambitions in local interview shocker. More on this developing story when we get it

That's how I read it. 

I want to work with the best players, Bundesligais a good leauge and would be a good option for me (as is the PL). 

If a CL club comes knocking and theyre a good fit why would I turn that down.  

Nothing to see here. Move on. 

[Kermitzasaint]

6 hours ago, Fabrice29 said:

Stop looking at league tables as the only barometer of whether someone is capable working in a different environment. That might help you get it.

Thanks Ankerson, we heard you already last time you said it. Russell Martin is still a shit manager 

[Miltonaggro]

3 hours ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

Just been to St Mary's as heard a rumour that the club was voting on who the new manager was going to be.

Black smoke though so no decision as of yet...

Confirmation that the Board got out safely:

 

[sadoldgit]

4 hours ago, Toussaint said:

Can we? Do you think we are an attractive option for anyone “better” at the moment? 

Clearly we are not Manchester United, but we are still a draw for many managers who are on the way up. The trick is to find one that actually is, rather than thinks that he is.

[Dusic]

https://sportwitness.co.uk/theres-an-agreement-with-the-owner-danny-rohl-on-reaching-deal-over-sheffield-wednesday-future/

https://sportwitness.co.uk/danny-rohl-sheffield-wednesday-quality-of-southampton-leicester-city-and-ipswich-town/

Reading the quotes here, whilst nothing concrete, it doesn't particularly come across as he has an agreement with Saints and is expecting to be announced in due course.

If that were the case (with Saints or any club) I'm not sure what he has to gain from doing the podcast. 

Considering he is still contracted to Sheff Weds for 2 more years having willingly signed an extension its fairly unprofessional from him IMO.

Edited yesterday at 15:05 by Dusic

[Toussaint]

46 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

Clearly we are not Manchester United, but we are still a draw for many managers who are on the way up. The trick is to find one that actually is, rather than thinks that he is.

True, but that was in response to the post that “we could do better than Rohl”. I would say Rohl fits what you describe, but he may have different ideas. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

One thing is for sure - if the squad is not sorted out it’ll not matter a jot who the manager is.

[Wade Garrett]

13 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

One thing is for sure - if the squad is not sorted out it’ll not matter a jot who the manager is.

Any manager worth his salt will want assurances over the squad.

If we end up with some no-mark, then the writing is on the wall.

[Gloucester Saint]

7 hours ago, ally_uk said:

We can do better than Rohl...... 

 

 

Don’t know about better but Cooper would be a very sensible and practical choice for what is required.

So they won’t appoint him then.

[Willo of Whiteley]

I’m not sold on Rohl. I just hope it’s someone that will get a tune out of a squad of muppets, or that will attract the right calibre of person to the club.

[ally_uk]

Bo Svensson, Kasper Hjulmand. 

Could be worth a shout ? 

[Gloucester Saint]

54 minutes ago, ally_uk said:

Bo Svensson, Kasper Hjulmand. 

Could be worth a shout ? 

Hjulmand is little different to Thorup who Norwich just sacked.

[Badger]

1 hour ago, ally_uk said:

Bo Svensson, Kasper Hjulmand. 

Could be worth a shout ? 

Svennson was considered up and coming and a name to watch a couple of seasons ago. Linked with a few jobs here (Wolves, Palace, West Ham spring to mind). Since sacked at his last two clubs. 
 

But of course managers who are sacked often go on to be successful elsewhere. 

[Gloucester Saint]

33 minutes ago, Badger said:

Svennson was considered up and coming and a name to watch a couple of seasons ago. Linked with a few jobs here (Wolves, Palace, West Ham spring to mind). Since sacked at his last two clubs. 
 

But of course managers who are sacked often go on to be successful elsewhere. 

One good job, one poor. Not ‘Bo Selecta’ but worth a look.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

21 hours ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

Just been to St Mary's as heard a rumour that the club was voting on who the new manager was going to be.

Black smoke though so no decision as of yet...

Just wanted to point out that this is now over the fabled 30 laughing emoji mark. 🙂

[Miltonaggro]

18 hours ago, Wade Garrett said:

Any manager worth his salt will want assurances over the squad.

If we end up with some no-mark, then the writing is on the wall.

Or, in the case of another Nathan Jones, a skid-mark. 

[pimpin4rizeal]

I don’t  really get the obsession with up and coming managers like rohl for a club like us if he does well it’s gonna end up up another shields or Wilcox type thing where we have tried to go fashionable and just end up a stepping stone .. plenty of more experienced managers out there that you know more what you  are getting from them and that won’t be eyed by bigger clubs.

Also feel like our fans are trying to really polish up rohls achievements as something outstanding but keeping up Wednesday and having a decent first half followed by a dogshit second half of the season doesn’t look that impressive . Look at the jobs when Luton went up or McKenna at Ipswich ..a well managed club doing well in the championship isn’t some freak occurrence and plenty have punched above their weight more 

Edited 11 hours ago by pimpin4rizeal

[Dusic]

18 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Also feel like our fans are trying to really polish up rohls achievements as something outstanding but keeping up Wednesday and having a decent first half followed by a dogshit second half of the season doesn’t look that impressive . Look at the jobs when Luton went up or McKenna at Ipswich ..a well managed club doing well in the championship isn’t some freak occurrence and plenty have punched above their weight more 

The whole point is that Sheff Weds are not well managed. He has created a steady team with little investment under an absolutely basket case ownership.

Aa always, context is key. He has obviously had a massive falling out there aince our approach and their downturn has basically coincided with that.

Like Cortese with Pochettino, Saints with RM etc sometimes recent results or league position aren't the way to judge because if Rohl were to come here then he would have far better players to work with. I am sure that factors such as his development of Shea Charles, experience of working in a RB style etc would be of greater value to Spors as a mechanism of assessing his fit.

[Sunglasses Ron]

2 hours ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Just wanted to point out that this is now over the fabled 30 laughing emoji mark. 🙂

Do I win a prize, or a place in a Hall of Fame? 😅

[Wade Garrett]

6 minutes ago, Sunglasses Ron said:

Do I win a prize, or a place in a Hall of Fame? 😅

You should, it was genius.

[miserableoldgit]

1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

I don’t  really get the obsession with up and coming managers like rohl for a club like us if he does well it’s gonna end up up another shields or Wilcox type thing where we have tried to go fashionable and just end up a stepping stone .. plenty of more experienced managers out there that you know more what you  are getting from them and that won’t be eyed by bigger clubs.

Also feel like our fans are trying to really polish up rohls achievements as something outstanding but keeping up Wednesday and having a decent first half followed by a dogshit second half of the season doesn’t look that impressive . Look at the jobs when Luton went up or McKenna at Ipswich ..a well managed club doing well in the championship isn’t some freak occurrence and plenty have punched above their weight more 

Sheff Wed are not a well managed club at the top.......

[skintsaint]

Alonso leaving Leverkusen....has he bought into the project..? 😅

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Alonso leaving Leverkusen....has he bought into the project..? 😅

Has he grown a beard and bought pullovers? Standard SR pre interview requirements. 🙂

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Has he grown a beard and bought pullovers? Standard SR pre interview requirements. 🙂

Not for us, he hasn't failed anywhere near enough

[Holmes_and_Watson]

8 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Not for us, he hasn't failed anywhere near enough

There you go. No way SR would pick him, when they could reassign Ben Chorley and take him through any coaching badges he'd need to be a manager.

[Dark Munster]

14 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Alonso leaving Leverkusen....has he bought into the project..? 😅

Too late unfortunately. I heard Watford have beaten us to him. 

[Saint86]

If we aren't getting rohl, then sod it.. I want hassenhuttle. Let's have a lovely warm fuzzy time whilst Ralph gets his redemption arc and takes us back to the prem. If carslberg did Southampton seasons and all that.. if he could press the living hell out of a Russel Martin side during that hypothetical season then all the better!

 

Edited 7 hours ago by Saint86

[Turkish]

15 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

There you go. No way SR would pick him, when they could reassign Ben Chorley and take him through any coaching badges he'd need to be a manager.

We're more likely to get Richard Chorley than Alonso 

[Fabrice29]

4 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

I don’t  really get the obsession with up and coming managers like rohl for a club like us if he does well it’s gonna end up up another shields or Wilcox type thing where we have tried to go fashionable and just end up a stepping stone .. plenty of more experienced managers out there that you know more what you  are getting from them and that won’t be eyed by bigger clubs.

Also feel like our fans are trying to really polish up rohls achievements as something outstanding but keeping up Wednesday and having a decent first half followed by a dogshit second half of the season doesn’t look that impressive . Look at the jobs when Luton went up or McKenna at Ipswich ..a well managed club doing well in the championship isn’t some freak occurrence and plenty have punched above their weight more 

The obsession with up and coming managers is having someone good or exciting. Not some bang average experienced manager nobody else of note wants. I’m not really sure why that needs to be spelled out tbh 🤣

As for Rohl he hasn’t just done a decent job there. He’s been in football for however many years and worked his way to the top as an assistant. That includes being part of a coaching staff that got us out of relegation trouble in the PL. So he’s clearly got more on his CV than what you believe to be an underwhelming achievement at Wednesday. 

Again, not exactly sure why that needs explaining but I’d hope you’re not in recruitment. 

Edited 6 hours ago by Fabrice29