New Manager Debate

[Cabrone]

1 hour ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said:

It will be interesting to see how we react to going behind in a game, it hasn't happened under Tonda yet. As good as it's been he's only managed a handful of games at U21 and first team level, in an ideal world we keep it as it is right now for a few more games, how long does the 'new manager bounce' generally last for other clubs?

If he's achieved a new manager bounce he's the only one that has out of Selles, Martin, Juric and Still. I think the upturn is more than a new manager bounce, his time at Bayern and Genova has given him the ability.

[Saint NL]

Farke might be available this weekend....

[Wiggles31]

Wait for Farke to become available. Or Parker for that matter. Tonda has been amazing but too inexperienced. It will be a test of how he bounces back from this defeat. 

Edited 10 hours ago by Wiggles31

[Dr Who?]

We should give it to him or take on someone that we have lined up on a short list, but now is the time for some steady footing at the club. I bet they have not got anyone on a shortlist so give it to Tonda. 

I cannot see Leeds sacking him this week after the comeback and slender defeat at 2nd Place City! 

[Willo of Whiteley]

Tonda has already got the job.

[saintant]

42 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Tonda has already got the job.

Source?

[Wade Garrett]

Personally, I still want an experienced manager brought in.

[Roger]

Me too

[AlexLaw76]

I hope we allow him to learn his game back in the U21s.

Today, he was clueless on how to manage a game that, from about 10 mins in, was not going for us.....nothing changed WRT approach/shape and style.

We were very much 'more of the same'. Insanity and all that

[Badger]

4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I hope we allow him to learn his game back in the U21s.

Today, he was clueless on how to manage a game that, from about 10 mins in, was not going for us.....nothing changed WRT approach/shape and style.

We were very much 'more of the same'. Insanity and all that

Isn’t that true of many if not most managers, including experienced ?

The only manager of ours I recall being renowned for tweaking things mid-match was Hoddle. Although that deserted him one night at Tranmere  

[AlexLaw76]

7 minutes ago, Badger said:

Isn’t that true of many if not most managers, including experienced ?

The only manager of ours I recall being renowned for tweaking things mid-match was Hoddle. Although that deserted him one night at Tranmere  

When it is that obvious from so early in the game, to do nothing remotely different is just weird.

I mean, passing it around at the back and giving to (mostly) to THB where the attacks start, and expecting him to pick passes into a packed midfield, is silly. Will Still/Russell Martin kind of shit.

I get we can't just lump to Arma, but Millwall (and I suspect other sides we face with limited resources) will simply dig into midfield and wait for us to expect our CBs to pick Pirlo-esque passes into marked players...

Edited 7 hours ago by AlexLaw76

[Badger]

1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

When it is that obvious from so early in the game, to do nothing remotely different is just weird.

I mean, passing it around at the back and giving to (mostly) to THB where the attacks start, and expecting him to pick passes into a packed midfield, is silly. Will Still/Russell Martin kind of shit.

I get we can't just lump to Arma, but the Millwall (and I suspect other sides we face with limited resources) will simply dig into midfield and wait for us to expect our CBs to pick Pirlo-esque passes into marked players...

Don’t disagree with what you’re saying, but it doesn’t address whether we’d find someone up to quickly changing things from the touchline. 

[Dusic]

5 hours ago, Saint NL said:

Farke might be available this weekend....

And probably needs a break rather than just instantly ending up somewhere else with probably no energy.

We were a clearance away from a decent point today considering we didnt really get going and had quite a few players missing. 

[Harry_SFC]

20 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

When it is that obvious from so early in the game, to do nothing remotely different is just weird.

I mean, passing it around at the back and giving to (mostly) to THB where the attacks start, and expecting him to pick passes into a packed midfield, is silly. Will Still/Russell Martin kind of shit.

I get we can't just lump to Arma, but Millwall (and I suspect other sides we face with limited resources) will simply dig into midfield and wait for us to expect our CBs to pick Pirlo-esque passes into marked players...

It's games like this where it's literally pointless to have Armstrong upfront. You really need a big outlet up top to use as an out ball.

 

[Roo1976]

17 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

I hope we allow him to learn his game back in the U21s.

Today, he was clueless on how to manage a game that, from about 10 mins in, was not going for us.....nothing changed WRT approach/shape and style.

We were very much 'more of the same'. Insanity and all that

But i thought we played with were not going to loose mentality today we were too casual,there were moments when we played the ball too nonchalantly  and seemed to go back to our old ways of playing under the RM way. The Aribo thing i dont get,him and Edozie i thought downed tools and wanted out and now somehow hes back. We didnt miss him and should have played Bragg,Matsuki or even Oyekunle,but to go onto putting  in a player of Aribos credentials and for that effortless performance puts us back down to earth quite sharply. I do hope this is just a minor blip,but Coventry are romping this ATM so there seems to be only one more auto and a playoff sport for promotion to go for even this early on.

[Appy]

20 minutes ago, Dusic said:

And probably needs a break rather than just instantly ending up somewhere else with probably no energy.

We were a clearance away from a decent point today considering we didnt really get going and had quite a few players missing. 

A clearance away? Yeah, stick that on the points total, you do come out with some nonsense 

[CB Fry]

5 hours ago, Saint NL said:

Farke might be available this weekend....

This forum is weirdly obsessed with the idea that managers that get sacked go off to take a new job immediately.

Farke isn't going get sacked from Leeds and rock up at Saints a week later. Ditto Corberan, ditto all of them. It doesn't work like that.

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

SR are creaming themselves over a guy that has four managerial wins.

He’ll be announced I’m sure of it

[MarkSFC]

Now hes lost one its the best time to appoint the real choice. Great job Tonda, now go make the U21s great so we have a pipeline of players for the next season or two....

 

[Dusic]

49 minutes ago, Appy said:

A clearance away? Yeah, stick that on the points total, you do come out with some nonsense 

Yeah, if we clear the cross, or Romeu makes a tackle then we get a point from a tough game that we didn't play well in.

Point being, I'm not sure it suddenly means that Tonda isn't the right guy at full time if he was at kick off?

Is that nonsense?

 

[CB Fry]

What Tonda has done is drag us back into mid table and in the mix for top 6 minimum.

Those four wins hopefully has made this a (more) tempting role for an experienced manager.

Edited 5 hours ago by CB Fry