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Saint86

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36 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Johannes Spors clearly out another Sport Republic dud signing.

As someone's just pointed out on the bazunu thread - he's just done a deal that sees us getting paid to weaken Stoke's season, whilst strengthening saints with Peretz 😄

I don't think its arguable that he's signed some top talent - Jander, Scienza, Azaz, Fellows, Jelert, Roerslev etc. are all very good players for the champ, at least 2 of them will go on to play at a much higher level given their ability and ages (jander and fellows). There is a good player in Quarshie as well. Downs was a bad buy, but frankly his record on incoming transfers is pretty good. Jury is out on Peretz, but on paper he's his country's starting keeper and had enough about him to play for bayern 3 times last season.

Manager wise though, appears to not be so hot - although we really don't know what happens behind the scenes, been plenty of rumours/noise about interference, and it cannot be a coincidence that basically every manager under SR has reverted to a back 5, and that we cannot keep hold of backroom staff or seemingly Director's of football (all of which have left saints for bigger clubs so far).

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Toussaint

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16 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Judging from his stats and his career trajectory, coupled with reading that article, he sounds absolutely fucking dreadful 

This definitely isn't the time to be taking punts on signings they hope may come good  

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SNSUN

SNSUN

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2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Saints will be cooking next season when Bazunu, Downs and BBD return from crucial, and successful, loans 

...and Smallbone, Taylor, Sugawara, ABK, Bree and Larios. We will fucking steamroller League 1. 😜 

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Badger

Badger

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6 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

...and Smallbone, Taylor, Sugawara, ABK, Bree and Larios. We will fucking steamroller League 1. 😜 

Aren’t most of those out of contract at the end of the season ? Or is that just wishful thinking ? 

Turkish

Turkish

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8 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

...and Smallbone, Taylor, Sugawara, ABK, Bree and Larios. We will fucking steamroller League 1. 😜 

All played in the premier league, proven quality 

Badger

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34 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Judging from his stats and his career trajectory, coupled with reading that article, he sounds absolutely fucking dreadful 

“Just what we need “ - Rasmus W.A 

He’s a typical SR signing, scored a good goal once, featured on YouTube so we’ve followed his career closely ever since. And as he hasn’t repeated that achievement since, we convince ourselves the ‘form’ will return once he pulls on a Saints shirt. 

We need a few more duds to select from.

revolution saint

revolution saint

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1 hour ago, SaintsRoyalty said:

Average Joe journeyman striker being linked. Have we been linked to him before? Rings a bell. Can’t be worse than Downes surely?

https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-approach-must-be-worth-less-than-e4m-minimum-fee-set/

 

Yeah, linked in the summer.  One time wonderkid who got a big move to Monaco but hasn't done anything of note since.  Doubt there's much truth in it and looks proper gash now.

 

Edit: Ignore me, I'm thinking of Willem Guebbels.

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LuckyNumber7

LuckyNumber7

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24 minutes ago, Badger said:

“Just what we need “ - Rasmus W.A 

He’s a typical SR signing, scored a good goal once, featured on YouTube so we’ve followed his career closely ever since. And as he hasn’t repeated that achievement since, we convince ourselves the ‘form’ will return once he pulls on a Saints shirt. 

We need a few more duds to select from.

I'd argue he's the opposite of a typical SR signing. He's 27 so not some untested kid from Man City that we'll look to develop.

We were reportedly very close to signing him in the summer, but I thought he was more of a winger than a striker and we went for Fellows and Scienza instead. So it could just be lazy journalism, who knows.

Either way, I think people need to get check their expectation levels. We're a mid table Championship team and it's the January transfer window. Anyone we sign is going to be a punt to some degree. It hasn't worked out for Guilavogui at Lens but he had a decent time in the Bundesliga.

SNSUN

SNSUN

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52 minutes ago, Badger said:

Aren’t most of those out of contract at the end of the season ? Or is that just wishful thinking ? 

We gave Jack a new contract so....

Saint86

Saint86

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1 hour ago, SaintsRoyalty said:

Average Joe journeyman striker being linked. Have we been linked to him before? Rings a bell. Can’t be worse than Downes surely?

https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-approach-must-be-worth-less-than-e4m-minimum-fee-set/

 

image.png.86c0f94e53dda1558154894a552c6079.pngIts a bizarre one... Mainly a right winger, and his minutes per goal stats are terrible. 457min this season, 303minutes per goal the season before... and a grand total of 2 assists in the past 2 seasons of league football.

Also, as everyone should be well aware of by now, we don't play wingers, we play wing backs and full backs (depending on how much of the pitch eckert wants to cede to the opposition).

Why are we being linked?

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disconnect

disconnect

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4 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

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Doesn’t read like the guy we need to start banging in some chances, or particularly the big guy for others to play off if he’s typically being used as a right winger

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OldNick

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7 minutes ago, Tommy Mulgrew said:

European CB, loads of caps for his (decent) country, plenty of Championship and EPL experience, presently tearing it up in Portugal with four consecutive defender of the month awards.  Saints connections, too.  
Sounds promising.  Oh!  😁

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/25760164.bednarek-voted-liga-portugals-best-defender-fourth-month-row/

take into account that Gyorceres was banging goals in left right and centre perhaps shows the talent pool is not that high with defenders

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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2 hours ago, revolution saint said:

Yeah, linked in the summer.  One time wonderkid who got a big move to Monaco but hasn't done anything of note since.  Doubt there's much truth in it and looks proper gash now.

 

Edit: Ignore me, I'm thinking of Willem Guebbels.

No, that was Hitlers right hand man. I don’t think he’s still playing 

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Toussaint

Toussaint

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2 hours ago, SNSUN said:

...and Smallbone, Taylor, Sugawara, ABK, Bree and Larios. We will fucking steamroller League 1. 😜 

I’d have Bree and Taylor back now, they’d both be an improvement on what we have currently.

OldNick

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Im still surprised that Sinclair Armstrong has never pushed on, he looked so good at first at QPR but now gets little game time at Bristol City. He seems to me a classic Championship forward, big and strong.

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lambtiss

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3 hours ago, SaintsRoyalty said:

Average Joe journeyman striker being linked. Have we been linked to him before? Rings a bell. Can’t be worse than Downes surely?

https://sportwitness.co.uk/southampton-approach-must-be-worth-less-than-e4m-minimum-fee-set/

 

It seems he is a winger rather than the big number 9 that we are lacking. Also, his scoring stats over the last 2 season are woeful. 

So, probably got mileage in it.

Toussaint

Toussaint

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13 minutes ago, OldNick said:

Im still surprised that Sinclair Armstrong has never pushed on, he looked so good at first at QPR but now gets little game time at Bristol City. He seems to me a classic Championship forward, big and strong.

He caused havoc when he played against us.

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Turkish

Turkish

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5 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

What about Troy Parrot, still only 23 and doing well now in the Eredivisie and a good scoring record for Ireland

Irish international, maybe we can get Baz to have a word. Oh wait…

 

 

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saintant

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2 hours ago, Saint86 said:

image.png.86c0f94e53dda1558154894a552c6079.pngIts a bizarre one... Mainly a right winger, and his minutes per goal stats are terrible. 457min this season, 303minutes per goal the season before... and a grand total of 2 assists in the past 2 seasons of league football.

Also, as everyone should be well aware of by now, we don't play wingers, we play wing backs and full backs (depending on how much of the pitch eckert wants to cede to the opposition).

Why are we being linked?

Because we're run by idiots and it's the sort of signing they might make.

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HarvSFC

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1 hour ago, OldNick said:

Im still surprised that Sinclair Armstrong has never pushed on, he looked so good at first at QPR but now gets little game time at Bristol City. He seems to me a classic Championship forward, big and strong.

Goztepe tried to sign him in the summer. I was interested as he could have been the one player who could have potentially developed into something worthwhile for us based on his QPR performance against us and he since caused us issues at Ashton Gate this season.

lambtiss

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6 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Goztepe tried to sign him in the summer. I was interested as he could have been the one player who could have potentially developed into something worthwhile for us based on his QPR performance against us and he since caused us issues at Ashton Gate this season.

He has scored 6 goals in 62 matches across the last 2 seasons in the Championship. That's pretty poor.

Willo of Whiteley

Willo of Whiteley

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Linked with that average Lens player again that we were back in the summer.

Nothing screams “Sport Republic scouting” more than going back to players that weren’t deemed good enough before.

You also know if we sign him he’ll be the first out the door in the summer, and not for a sale, probably a loan because no one will take him off us.

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qwertyell

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1 hour ago, OldNick said:

Im still surprised that Sinclair Armstrong has never pushed on, he looked so good at first at QPR but now gets little game time at Bristol City. He seems to me a classic Championship forward, big and strong.

A goal every 13.5 games. We've only got 20 games left. 

Big and strong might be handy if we were looking for a bouncer. 

1 hour ago, Toussaint said:

He caused havoc when he played against us.

Everyone over 5' 7" and 10 stone causes havoc against us. I think that's more of an us thing than an indicator of their quality. 

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SaintLondon

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Obviously, we’re not going up this year - and hopefully not going down either - so it’s fairly clear that January is about offloading as much as possible and cutting our losses. The hope, presumably, is that once that’s done we can at least draw a line under this season and use the summer to begin the long-overdue rebuild.

It all feels a bit like Ferrari downing tools halfway through a season to focus on the next set of regulations. Sensible in theory, deeply uninspiring in the moment - and, if history is anything to go by, unlikely to deliver the immediate step forward we’re all hoping for. I suspect we’ll fare about as well next season as they usually do in those scenarios. Which is to say: shite. 

Turkish

Turkish

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10 minutes ago, SaintLondon said:

Obviously, we’re not going up this year - and hopefully not going down either - so it’s fairly clear that January is about offloading as much as possible and cutting our losses. The hope, presumably, is that once that’s done we can at least draw a line under this season and use the summer to begin the long-overdue rebuild.

It all feels a bit like Ferrari downing tools halfway through a season to focus on the next set of regulations. Sensible in theory, deeply uninspiring in the moment - and, if history is anything to go by, unlikely to deliver the immediate step forward we’re all hoping for. I suspect we’ll fare about as well next season as they usually do in those scenarios. Which is to say: shite. 

We’re going to be in the championship for a long time that’s the reality the only way we’re getting out of it with these clowns is down 

qwertyell

qwertyell

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2 hours ago, lambtiss said:

What about Troy Parrot, still only 23 and doing well now in the Eredivisie and a good scoring record for Ireland

Everton, West Ham, and Leeds have been linked, and quoted £31m, supposedly.

I mean, he might prefer 15th in the Championship, but persuading AZ to accept shirt buttons and a season pass to SeaCity Museum is a long shot. 

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skintsaint

skintsaint

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2 hours ago, lambtiss said:

What about Troy Parrot, still only 23 and doing well now in the Eredivisie and a good scoring record for Ireland

Think you are going to be disapointed if you think we are spending north of £20m on a striker.

lambtiss

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45 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Think you are going to be disapointed if you think we are spending north of £20m on a striker.

I am a Saints fan, disappointment is my default expectation

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Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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58 minutes ago, qwertyell said:

Everton, West Ham, and Leeds have been linked, and quoted £31m, supposedly.

I mean, he might prefer 15th in the Championship, but persuading AZ to accept shirt buttons and a season pass to SeaCity Museum is a long shot. 

50 year commemorative shirt buttons, with the names of all the SR dud signings carefully integrated into the design.

lambtiss

lambtiss

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1 hour ago, qwertyell said:

Everton, West Ham, and Leeds have been linked, and quoted £31m, supposedly.

I mean, he might prefer 15th in the Championship, but persuading AZ to accept shirt buttons and a season pass to SeaCity Museum is a long shot. 

I didn't know that, well beyond our price range, and he wouldn't be interested in us with higher suitors chasing him. 

Osvaldorama

Osvaldorama

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33 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

We won’t be getting promoted for many years


Hey, I’m not sure that’s true. We may get promoted back up from league one to the championship in 2-3 seasons time. 

pimpin4rizeal

pimpin4rizeal

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Actually think we should of just kept onuachu reckon he would have been a great option for the championship especially with fellows and scienza supplying him . I get a lot of fans didn’t rate him but his only games with us where in the premiership and he did have good games 

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Osvaldorama

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4 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Actually think we should of just kept onuachu reckon he would have been a great option for the championship especially with fellows and scienza supplying him . I get a lot of fans didn’t rate him but his only games with us where in the premiership and he did have good games 


Sadly, I agree. Limited as he was, he’d cook in the champ with our wingers. 
 

But that would be too easy. SR would rather reinvent football using a fluid passing 5 at the back formation and no number 9 than use any common sense whatsoever 

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Zorba

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5 hours ago, Toussaint said:

No, that was Hitlers right hand man. I don’t think he’s still playing 

Didn’t he play for one of SR’s other clubs? FC Göztapo?

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saintant

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3 hours ago, qwertyell said:

A goal every 13.5 games. We've only got 20 games left. 

Big and strong might be handy if we were looking for a bouncer. 

Everyone over 5' 7" and 10 stone causes havoc against us. I think that's more of an us thing than an indicator of their quality. 

Big and strong is what we are desperately lacking and have been for far too long. Spors said he would deal with it, he hasn't and we continue to get out muscled by sides with inferior skills.

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pimpin4rizeal

pimpin4rizeal

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11 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:


Sadly, I agree. Limited as he was, he’d cook in the champ with our wingers. 
 

But that would be too easy. SR would rather reinvent football using a fluid passing 5 at the back formation and no number 9 than use any common sense whatsoever 

Yeah was stupid getting rid of him really we are crying out for a big man at least as a different option to AA and archer we got rid of onuachu brought in downs and kept Ross 😖Paul has 11 in 15 games in turkey this year pretty sure the drop down to the championship would have made a huge difference like it does for AA

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