Daniel Peretz

[pimpin4rizeal]

23 hours ago, coalman said:

He was definitely our best 'keeper last year. Saying he was our best player seems like a stretch when compared to Fernandes.

Personally I think ramsdale was more important to us then fernandes was .. fernandes only had 3 goals 3 assists whilst being good on the eye his play didn’t really help us a lot .. Rambo stopped us getting some absolute hammerings and was a big factor in the games we did pick up points 

[coalman]

29 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Personally I think ramsdale was more important to us then fernandes was .. fernandes only had 3 goals 3 assists whilst being good on the eye his play didn’t really help us a lot .. Rambo stopped us getting some absolute hammerings and was a big factor in the games we did pick up points 

I think we'll have to disagree on that one. Ramsdale's save percentage was 65% last season for us. This season, for Newcastle, it's 61% which is the third lowest in the league. The top keepers in the premier league have a save percentage above 70%.

For a much smaller sample size - McCarthy had a save percentage last season of 68% in the Premier League.

[pimpin4rizeal]

6 hours ago, coalman said:

I think we'll have to disagree on that one. Ramsdale's save percentage was 65% last season for us. This season, for Newcastle, it's 61% which is the third lowest in the league. The top keepers in the premier league have a save percentage above 70%.

For a much smaller sample size - McCarthy had a save percentage last season of 68% in the Premier League.

Whilst the stats are usually a good indicator I’m not sure this matches up in the same way it does with baz . Looking back through the ramsdale thread most people seemed to think he was super and how it was a shame we finally got the gkposition right but in a shit team .. I can’t be bothered to go back and analyse every goal but I’m sure the suicide passing around the back line didn’t help his stats 

[HKsaint]

I would want Peretz rather than Ramsdale to be our goalkeeper next season. 

[Jack]

5 hours ago, HKsaint said:

I would want Peretz rather than Ramsdale to be our goalkeeper next season. 

He’s good enough. Then add that his wages will be far less and we could get a decent fee for selling Ramsdale, it’s a no brainer. I wonder if it rides on us going up though, he may well have better offers if we don’t 

[Miltonaggro]

Ramsdale is a good prem level keeper, and Peretz looks like he is. The deciding factor for me is communication, and Peretz wins here. Since his first game he has been constantly talking to / positioning central defence through to central midfield every game, and is a huge part of our overall defensive improvement. You can see the appreciation the likes of THB, Stephens, Bree, Manning and Downes have for this. 

[Stud mark of doom]

Adam B saying we’ll sign Peretz on promotion. 
 

 

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

2 hours ago, Stud mark of doom said:

Adam B saying we’ll sign Peretz on promotion. 
 

 

 

It’s a bit of a non news story. 

We can all see and predict what’ll happen if we get promoted. Just easy clicks for most journos nowadays.

[SNSUN]

25 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

It’s a bit of a non news story. 

We can all see and predict what’ll happen if we get promoted. Just easy clicks for most journos nowadays.

Yep. We have the option, and he's been brilliant. Of course we'll sign him if we go up. The question is whether we'll sign him if we don't. We should absolutely be looking to secure the Larin and Peretz signings if we stay in the League, then hope we don't lose too many of the other gems.

Baz can be his back up. No? Ok, no.

[Stud mark of doom]

I was pleased to see it confirmed. I wasn’t sure we’d want him and ramsdale if we went up, and we will have Ramsdale unless we can shift him, which I though might mean it’s not good news for holding on to Peretz. 
 

 

[Willo of Whiteley]

I’m pretty confident Ramsdale will be shifted on. He won’t want to be here.

[SNSUN]

25 minutes ago, Stud mark of doom said:

I was pleased to see it confirmed. I wasn’t sure we’d want him and ramsdale if we went up, and we will have Ramsdale unless we can shift him, which I though might mean it’s not good news for holding on to Peretz. 
 

 

Ramsdale would go - but having Ramsdale and Peretz as our two keepers (hypothetically) would have to be one of our best GK pairings in our recent history. With Baz as a third.... OK no.

Edited Monday at 22:28 by SNSUN

[LiberalCommunist]

The financial reward and status upgrade is the only reason I want promotion. 

Losing to the same teams, and seeing new ways that VAR ruins the spectacle will make it feel like we never left. 

But that's what we must aim for. Sadly.

[saintant]

2 hours ago, LiberalCommunist said:

The financial reward and status upgrade is the only reason I want promotion. 

Losing to the same teams, and seeing new ways that VAR ruins the spectacle will make it feel like we never left. 

But that's what we must aim for. Sadly.

Could be wrong but I think we'll be far better equipped to make a go of the Premier League under Tonda than Russboy who, as we all know, had only one way of playing which left us badly exposed when constantly trying to play out from the back.

[Pilchards]

5 minutes ago, saintant said:

Could be wrong but I think we'll be far better equipped to make a go of the Premier League under Tonda than Russboy who, as we all know, had only one way of playing which left us badly exposed when constantly trying to play out from the back.

Indeed it was playing the shitty Russ game that killed us at the start.

Its all about confident and ours got shot very, very early.

[Turkish]

10 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

I’m pretty confident Ramsdale will be shifted on. He won’t want to be here.

to where? That's the issue. 

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Pilchards said:

Indeed it was playing the shitty Russ game that killed us at the start.

Its all about confident and ours got shot very, very early.

Managers and tactics dont matter pal

[Ken Tone]

2 hours ago, LiberalCommunist said:

The financial reward and status upgrade is the only reason I want promotion. 

Losing to the same teams, and seeing new ways that VAR ruins the spectacle will make it feel like we never left. 

But that's what we must aim for. Sadly.

It's not even for an upgrade that I want promotion now it looks close. I really don't fancy the PL.  Far fewer games for a start, and constantly messed about by TV and other clubs' european games. Plus bloody VAR.

But it's more that if we don't go up, we'll probably lose some of our best players.  And gradually go into decline to become a mid-table so-so club.

 What's better .... a so-so championship club or a yo-yo PL/championship one? 😒

[Ted Bates Statue]

2 hours ago, saintant said:

Could be wrong but I think we'll be far better equipped to make a go of the Premier League under Tonda than Russboy who, as we all know, had only one way of playing which left us badly exposed when constantly trying to play out from the back.

We've already beaten the same number of PL teams this season in the FA Cup as we did last year and given Man City a scare at Wembley. Compare with the eventually-routine drubbing Liverpool gave us as a Championship side and the writing was on the wall before last season began. It will be a tough season but if we can build on what we've got and not bring in dross like Fraser and Lallana, there are reasons to be optimistic about next season if Tonda can do the business in the playoffs.

[Willo of Whiteley]

3 hours ago, Turkish said:

to where? That's the issue. 

He’ll have takers, it’ll be about how we shift his wages off the books.

IF we get promoted we aren’t keeping Peretz and Ramsdale.

[Turkish]

43 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

He’ll have takers, it’ll be about how we shift his wages off the books.

IF we get promoted we aren’t keeping Peretz and Ramsdale.

We're going to need to rebuild the whole glovesmen department, hopefully we can shift Baz, McCarthy and Long out of contract so we'll need 3 new goal custodians if we can find someone stupid enough to take Baz.

[LeG]

It be Peretz & Pierce Charles if we go up. 

[Midfield_General]

26 minutes ago, LeG said:

It be Peretz & Pierce Charles if we go up. 

[Lighthouse]

31 minutes ago, LeG said:

It be Peretz & Pierce Charles if we go up. 

I can’t see that. Neither will want to come to Saints and sit on the bench all season and only play cup games.

[beatlesaint]

IF we go up the Ramsdale situation interests me. 
Given the Newcastle move hasn’t really worked out and they don’t want him would he be sat there thinking that if Saints go up he’s sorted and will return next season?

If we don’t go up obviously we’ll want to sell him but who in the Premier League needs a keeper and would also take on his wages?

Petsonally I’d rather have Peretz.

Edited yesterday at 15:17 by beatlesaint

[bugenhagen]

23 hours ago, Stud mark of doom said:

Adam B saying we’ll sign Peretz on promotion. 
 

 

 

If this is the terms of the deal, that it will become permanent upon promotion (like THB), then this is great news indeed!

My concern about the GK situation (Baz apart) is that I don't think we will be able to shift Ramsdale until the very end of the window/start of next season, and if we had to wait to sign Peretz until Ramsdale is off, then I think we  would not be able to make that happen.

[Stud mark of doom]

8 minutes ago, bugenhagen said:

If this is the terms of the deal, that it will become permanent upon promotion (like THB), then this is great news indeed!

My concern about the GK situation (Baz apart) is that I don't think we will be able to shift Ramsdale until the very end of the window/start of next season, and if we had to wait to sign Peretz until Ramsdale is off, then I think we  would not be able to make that happen.

Exactly my concern - although apparently getting Ramsdale out the door will be trivially easy so Adam’s tweet was just clickbait 🙂 

Edited yesterday at 18:26 by Stud mark of doom

[Tommy Mulgrew]

1 hour ago, bugenhagen said:

My concern

 

1 hour ago, Stud mark of doom said:

Exactly my concern

Do not despair, my friends: apparently, we have an option to buy Larin and Peretz if we stay in the Championship and an obligation to buy them if we get promoted.  So, if we get promoted, we should not have to wait until almost the end of the transfer window before we get Peretz permanently.

No doubt the end of the window will bring plenty of other concerns for us, though.

[Willo of Whiteley]

If we are promoted Aaron Ramsdale has no right to be the starting keeper.

You have to beat in mind squad dynamics, he wanted out, why would you introduce a player to the squad all over again? It’s the equivalent of Armel Bella-Kotchap, he was absolute shit throughout the entirety of his Saints career and should never have been let back in.

Anyone that has gone has gone for a reason. You can say “wages off the books”, they’ve still chosen to go.

[St. Ciervo]

Honestly, I would be fine with either shot stopper in net. Is there a world where Baz starts in the championship?

Promotion is so critical to keep what has been built so far. I am so much more attached to this group than 2 years ago (basically because we aren't playing RussBall).

[Saint_clark]

11 hours ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

If we are promoted Aaron Ramsdale has no right to be the starting keeper.

You have to beat in mind squad dynamics, he wanted out, why would you introduce a player to the squad all over again? It’s the equivalent of Armel Bella-Kotchap, he was absolute shit throughout the entirety of his Saints career and should never have been let back in.

Anyone that has gone has gone for a reason. You can say “wages off the books”, they’ve still chosen to go.

I agree but didn't we bring him back after the last promotion? 

[Gloucester Saint]

15 hours ago, bugenhagen said:

If this is the terms of the deal, that it will become permanent upon promotion (like THB), then this is great news indeed!

My concern about the GK situation (Baz apart) is that I don't think we will be able to shift Ramsdale until the very end of the window/start of next season, and if we had to wait to sign Peretz until Ramsdale is off, then I think we  would not be able to make that happen.

If Ramsdale was told that Peretz would be first choice, he’d be straight onto his agent. All it takes is a first choice keeper in a major league to do their ACL in the opening game - or in the WC even - and a move possibility opens up. 

[beatlesaint]

24 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

If Ramsdale was told that Peretz would be first choice, he’d be straight onto his agent. All it takes is a first choice keeper in a major league to do their ACL in the opening game - or in the WC even - and a move possibility opens up. 

It does but in that instance it would only be another season long loan until their keeper is fit again wouldn't it ?

If we dont go up, Peretz is suddenly wanted by Bayern, Ramsdale goes then we need a new keeper, there is NO WAY bloody Bazunu is in goal for us ever again !

Edited 9 hours ago by beatlesaint

[Gloucester Saint]

1 hour ago, beatlesaint said:

It does but in that instance it would only be another season long loan until their keeper is fit again wouldn't it ?

If we dont go up, Peretz is suddenly wanted by Bayern, Ramsdale goes then we need a new keeper, there is NO WAY bloody Bazunu is in goal for us ever again !

Baz will be on his way regardless, he’s certainly not ‘fine’ for the Championship as Stoke has underlined in italics. It’ll cost the club to loan him to a level he can perform at but that’s the final price hopefully paid from the horrific summer 2022 transfer window but needs must. I don’t think he will want to be at SFC after three droppings and two loans out either. 

[Whitey Grandad]

40 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said:

Baz will be on his way regardless, he’s certainly not ‘fine’ for the Championship as Stoke has underlined in italics. It’ll cost the club to loan him to a level he can perform at but that’s the final price hopefully paid from the horrific summer 2022 transfer window but needs must. I don’t think he will want to be at SFC after three droppings and two loans out either. 

Has he dropped the ball only three times? 😉

But I agree. He was a gamble that didn't work out. Personally I think he's average for the Championship and there are plenty of examples of other keepers making mistakes. He's part of our history now.

[Tamesaint]

What is Dylan Moody like? Will he make the grade? Could he be 3rd choice goalie?? 

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said:

Personally I think he's average for the Championship

“Average” there you go again exaggerating his ability. If he improves considerably, works hard, learns to organise a bit, toughens up a bit and gains experience, he may just reach the dizzy heights of “average”. Personally, I think that’s a step too far for him, but you never know. 

[Whitey Grandad]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

“Average” there you go again exaggerating his ability. If he improves considerably, works hard, learns to organise a bit, toughens up a bit and gains experience, he may just reach the dizzy heights of “average”. Personally, I think that’s a step too far for him, but you never know. 

He does have a promotion to the Premier League on his CV.

[bugenhagen]

2 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said:

He does have a promotion to the Premier League on his CV.

You should be his agent 😉

[bugenhagen]

6 hours ago, Gloucester Saint said:

If Ramsdale was told that Peretz would be first choice, he’d be straight onto his agent. All it takes is a first choice keeper in a major league to do their ACL in the opening game - or in the WC even - and a move possibility opens up. 

I agree, and that is partly why I think it will take until the end of the window, because he will be waiting for the best possible opportunity. 

[Whitey Grandad]

18 minutes ago, bugenhagen said:

You should be his agent 😉

I also have a bridge that you might be interested in. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

9 hours ago, Saint_clark said:

I agree but didn't we bring him back after the last promotion? 

Bright him back?

We signed him. He’d never played for the club before.

As mentioned above he has to fight for his place or bigger off.

[Saint_clark]

1 hour ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Bright him back?

We signed him. He’d never played for the club before.

As mentioned above he has to fight for his place or bigger off.

Weird. Could have sworn he'd been here a few years. 

[Willo of Whiteley]

17 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Weird. Could have sworn he'd been here a few years. 

Naa, I’d have liked us to sign him, but I can’t say he strikes me with confidence compared to Daniel Peretz - yes it’s a different division and opposition but DP has proven to be so commanding for his area and has a clear understanding with his teammates.

[Saint_clark]

12 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said:

Naa, I’d have liked us to sign him, but I can’t say he strikes me with confidence compared to Daniel Peretz - yes it’s a different division and opposition but DP has proven to be so commanding for his area and has a clear understanding with his teammates.

Yeah I agree, I think Ramsdale is a classic highlights keeper. I'd love us to sign Peretz.