Prem ready?

[Saint Fan CaM]

After posting on another thread this morning, I got to thinking about the unlikely scenario of us getting into a play-off place and actually winning the final. What players are good enough to remain as a first team choice and so how many new players would be required in-bound? My initial thoughts are…

GK - Rambo back (if possible) or new GK, Peretz 2nd choice

CB - 2-3 new players required with THB retained as back-up

FB - with decent CB’s there’s a chance that Bree and Welington could suffice, however I think we’d need another FB capable of both sides

DM - 2 new players required. Downes not good enough and Charles/Jander only OK as backup.

AM - Scienza, Fellows and Azaz could be OK, but we’d need at least one more decent player that could operate across the field.

Striker - at least 2 new players required - none of the current players are good enough.

 

So for my money that’s 9 new players required - almost an entire team - and I don’t think Spors or SR have what it takes to make that happen. And if we don’t go up this year (unlikely), the chasm in player quality is only going to get bigger, particularly as SR start selling off our best players (history tells us that’s inevitable).

[Jack]

We’d be a million miles off it, from the boardroom to the manager, coaches, players and probably the tea lady. 
 

That said, Sunderland were shite in the Championship and went up via the playoffs with a points total we could achieve. They just recruited very well and went for it, and it’s worked. Leeds too. Shows that the Prem isn’t as much of a closed shop as it looked the last couple of years. I just wouldn’t trust the jokers we’ve got in charge to have the first idea what’s required to be competitive 

[Baird of the land]

In unlikely world of getting promoted

THB would still be first choice

Think CM's are competitive with room to develop, certainly not an area to priortise limited resources on.

Think focusing on trying to get 5 good additions (something like RB, LB, CB, AM, S)

 

 

[badgerx16]

In the remote possibility that we go up, I cannot see Tonda keeping us there.

[Sarnia Cherie]

13 minutes ago, Jack said:

We’d be a million miles off it, from the boardroom to the manager, coaches, players and probably the tea lady. 
 

That said, Sunderland were shite in the Championship and went up via the playoffs with a points total we could achieve. They just recruited very well and went for it, and it’s worked. Leeds too. Shows that the Prem isn’t as much of a closed shop as it looked the last couple of years. I just wouldn’t trust the jokers we’ve got in charge to have the first idea what’s required to be competitive 

Well said. SR will hold us back on all levels. Not much prospect of anything all the time they are in charge. 

[Harry_SFC]

Yeah, probably 9 new players for the starting 11. We won't be going up though so the club needn't worry about it. 

[sandwichsaint]

Ramsdale and Scienza are PL starting quality and prob Charles too. THB, Jander, Fellowes squad level. In an ideal world we would go up and sign ten players better than this. In the real world we are staying in Stoke, Swansea, Blackburn territory for the foreseeable.

[franniesTache]

If we go up we'll be absolutely fine, the gap between the championship and premier league isn't huge and all of our players are good because we signed them. Obviously you're all falling into the trap of using your eyes to watch football instead of trusting the data

[stfrancisofbenali]

49 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

In the remote possibility that we go up, I cannot see Tonda keeping us there.

A new manager would be the first name on the shopping list.

[stfrancisofbenali]

1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

After posting on another thread this morning, I got to thinking about the unlikely scenario of us getting into a play-off place and actually winning the final. What players are good enough to remain as a first team choice and so how many new players would be required in-bound? My initial thoughts are…

GK - Rambo back (if possible) or new GK, Peretz 2nd choice

CB - 2-3 new players required with THB retained as back-up

FB - with decent CB’s there’s a chance that Bree and Welington could suffice, however I think we’d need another FB capable of both sides

DM - 2 new players required. Downes not good enough and Charles/Jander only OK as backup.

AM - Scienza, Fellows and Azaz could be OK, but we’d need at least one more decent player that could operate across the field.

Striker - at least 2 new players required - none of the current players are good enough.

 

So for my money that’s 9 new players required - almost an entire team - and I don’t think Spors or SR have what it takes to make that happen. And if we don’t go up this year (unlikely), the chasm in player quality is only going to get bigger, particularly as SR start selling off our best players (history tells us that’s inevitable).

Azaz can be brilliant at this level but would be eaten alive in the PL. The physicality and speed would see him retreat into his shell, as we've seen in several games this season at a much lower level.

[stfrancisofbenali]

49 minutes ago, sandwichsaint said:

Ramsdale and Scienza are PL starting quality and prob Charles too. THB, Jander, Fellowes squad level. In an ideal world we would go up and sign ten players better than this. In the real world we are staying in Stoke, Swansea, Blackburn territory for the foreseeable.

I also think that Scienza would come alive at Wembley, so in the unlikely (but not impossible) event of us getting there, we would win it.

[Dman]

1 hour ago, sandwichsaint said:

Ramsdale and Scienza are PL starting quality and prob Charles too. THB, Jander, Fellowes squad level. In an ideal world we would go up and sign ten players better than this. In the real world we are staying in Stoke, Swansea, Blackburn territory for the foreseeable.

Given hes our only threat, I personally think Scienza would be isolated out of the game in the PL, where the level of full backs and defence in general is so much higher. 

We're a million miles off having a side that can compete at the top level - we'd need to spend 100m+ and spend it well to have a chance... or accept defeat and just play orgainsed and compact and hope to nick enough points to stay up. 

From the players we have on our books, I'd likely only want to keep; 

Ramsdale, THB, Wellington, Scienza as your solid PL ready players.

With Jander, Fellows, Charles, Peretz, Stewart, Robinson, Azaz, Bree, Quarshie, Bragg, Sesay, as your squad players, whom obviously some of which will start. 

We'd essentially need a new player in every position throughout the spin of the squad. 

The most important thing we could do is sign leaders. Some no thrills but experienced PL players who are ready for a dog fight and allow you to play the luxury players such as Scienza and Azaz etc. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Dman

[sledger]

ah yes but think of the parachute payments,they are so important.

fact is the only clubs that stay up are the ones who disregard FFP