Saint Billy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said: It's a bit misleading really isn't it. To me that reads as Owners downwards. When in reality it was Tonda (maybe Spors?) downwards. Yes that's what's confusing me. This is from the BBC News app, and the rest of the article is making it look like a lot of people knew about this in the club.
AlexLaw76 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, Saint Billy said: Yes that's what's confusing me. This is from the BBC News app, and the rest of the article is making it look like a lot of people knew about this in the club. Probably did.
MB Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) Always thought time was a healer, not sure about anyone else but the longer this goes on and the more I read about it the more fucked off I get about everything. Owning up to everything in Gibbo’s boardroom, no challenges to the panel, a legal defence Harvey Price could have put together and wheeling out Lord Pannick at the 12th hour when there no more cards left to play. Our sanction is believed to be the largest in English football history, why? Cos everyone else has a competent legal defence who knows how to rubber up when the shit hits the fan. Tonda was stupid, naive, corrupt, call it what you want, but make no mistake here what has thrown the club under the bus is SFCs handling of it. Edited 1 hour ago by MB 17
AlexLaw76 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 2 minutes ago, MB said: Our sanction is believed to be the largest in English football history, that is largely from our club, and a few pundits. In reality, it is not Edited 1 hour ago by AlexLaw76
Mr X Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago "While tonight is a painful moment, this football club will respond with humility, accountability and determination to put things right" Accoutability? 😂🤦♂️ Okay so who is going to be seen as accountable?..... I have zero faith in them putting things right.... How are they ever going to do that any time soon! It will be years of hardship and sinking down the championship
saintant Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 40 minutes ago, trousers said: Any guesses / hunches / ITK info on why the club has gone to ground again today and why no immediate action has been taken against those involved (if only interim suspensions rather than outright dismissal)? I think most of us expected heads to roll 'instantly'... But, no... Not a dickie bird... - something to do with due process on employment rights? - the club are still thinking about a legal appeal, and don't want to prejudice that? - they're inept and don't have a clue? - they need to mop down the boardroom first to clear up the carnage Dragan left in a wake of rage earlier? - something else? Why waste a nice sunny day that could be spent on the golf course followed by a few cold beers 🙂 1 1
CB Fry Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 50 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said: I said he sounds defensive , which he does. And I meant his appointment could raise suspicions which he was probably aware of before he was appointed to the panel, but was hoping it wouldn’t get noticed, but now it has. So he’s felt the need to come out and defend himself. As I said, it would’ve probably been better to have someone on the panel with zero Middlesbrough connections Shall I tell you who else was "hoping he wouldn't get noticed"? 1
Mboto Gorge Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, CB Fry said: Shall I tell you who else was "hoping he wouldn't get noticed"? 🤣don’t get me wrong, I’m well aware that ultimately Tonda and SR are the reason we are where we are, not denying that whatsoever.
HedgeEnder Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 26 minutes ago, Cuddles said: Just sorting the injunction to stop the final, obvs. That’s not as far fetched as you might think. I, and one other poster on here who I won’t name, have seen some pretty compelling evidence to suggest that we could indeed go to the high court and take out an injunction to stop the final and challenge the outcome of the arbitration appeal. 3
Willo of Whiteley Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 36 minutes ago, trousers said: I feel another Spiderman meme in my waters... that got me 😂😂😂 more than it should I applaud you! 👏🏻
Cuddles Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, HedgeEnder said: That’s not as far fetched as you might think. I, and one other poster on here who I won’t name, have seen some pretty compelling evidence to suggest that we could indeed go to the high court and take out an injunction to stop the final and challenge the outcome of the arbitration appeal. I'm sure wound could. Whether it would be wise, is another matter of course. If we did do so, calling it at just gone lunchtime tomorrow would be golden 😂
Willo of Whiteley Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, HedgeEnder said: That’s not as far fetched as you might think. I, and one other poster on here who I won’t name, have seen some pretty compelling evidence to suggest that we could indeed go to the high court and take out an injunction to stop the final and challenge the outcome of the arbitration appeal. If we were not only is that pathetic but also incredibly desperate. I’ve been saying how Boro fans were like a desperate ex begging for another chance - amazing what a few days makes 😂
trousers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 7 minutes ago, HedgeEnder said: That’s not as far fetched as you might think. I, and one other poster on here who I won’t name, have seen some pretty compelling evidence to suggest that we could indeed go to the high court and take out an injunction to stop the final and challenge the outcome of the arbitration appeal. Ooh... I do like a plot twist! Leaving it a tad late though, aren't they...? Edited 1 hour ago by trousers 2
Cuddles Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, Mr X said: "While tonight is a painful moment, this football club will respond with humility, accountability and determination to put things right" Accoutability? 😂🤦♂️ Okay so who is going to be seen as accountable?..... I have zero faith in them putting things right.... How are they ever going to do that any time soon! It will be years of hardship and sinking down the championship Hands up any other parents who suddenly remembered that scene from Ben and Holly's Little Kingdom where Big Bad Barry eats Mr Elf's boat and King Thistle "Takes full responsibility". Just me? 😂😂 2
trousers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: If we were not only is that pathetic but also incredibly desperate. I’ve been saying how Boro fans were like a desperate ex begging for another chance - amazing what a few days makes 😂 "If you can't beat them...." 4
sadoldgit Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, trousers said: Ooh... I do like a plot twist! Leaving it a tad late though, aren't they...? If we think we are hated now could you imagine the vitriol if we tried to pull off this stunt? 1
EssEffCee Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 18 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: that is largely from our club, and a few pundits. In reality, it is not Yeah its definitely not the biggest sanction ever given to an English club.
Osvaldorama Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, HedgeEnder said: That’s not as far fetched as you might think. I, and one other poster on here who I won’t name, have seen some pretty compelling evidence to suggest that we could indeed go to the high court and take out an injunction to stop the final and challenge the outcome of the arbitration appeal. I don’t believe this is true, but I would love it if we did it 😂. Everyone hates the club now already so why not press the nuclear button and watch the fireworks. 1
RedArmy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, sadoldgit said: If we think we are hated now could you imagine the vitriol if we tried to pull off this stunt? Who thinks we are hated? and more importantly who gives a fuck? 2
EssEffCee Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Cuddles said: Hands up any other parents who suddenly remembered that scene from Ben and Holly's Little Kingdom where Big Bad Barry eats Mr Elf's boat and King Thistle "Takes full responsibility". Just me? 😂😂 God that brings back bad memories. Gonna have that stupid fucking theme tune stuck in my head all night now. 1
saintant Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 15 minutes ago, HedgeEnder said: That’s not as far fetched as you might think. I, and one other poster on here who I won’t name, have seen some pretty compelling evidence to suggest that we could indeed go to the high court and take out an injunction to stop the final and challenge the outcome of the arbitration appeal. Not to disbelieve what you've seen but isn't it a bit late in the day to be suggesting we are trying to get the game called off? People are already travelling and it's less than 20 hours away.
Tom & Gerry Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago It's Friday night and I should be preparing to go to Wembley tomorrow. The feeling doesn't get any better does it? 1 1
AlexLaw76 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Tom & Gerry said: It's Friday night and I should be preparing to go to Wembley tomorrow. The feeling doesn't get any better does it? Just think of your improved Carbon Footprint?
HedgeEnder Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: I don’t believe this is true, but I would love it if we did it 😂. Everyone hates the club now already so why not press the nuclear button and watch the fireworks. The information I’ve seen is 100% true and is from a former senior high court Judge via a friend who is a KC and Judge. It clearly wouldn’t make us any friends though!
SNSUN Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, Cuddles said: Hands up any other parents who suddenly remembered that scene from Ben and Holly's Little Kingdom where Big Bad Barry eats Mr Elf's boat and King Thistle "Takes full responsibility". Just me? 😂😂 My 7 year old has just "re-discovered" it. Just when you think that phase is over. Worse than Spygate... 1
RedArmy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, HedgeEnder said: The information I’ve seen is 100% true and is from a former senior high court Judge via a friend who is a KC and Judge. It clearly wouldn’t make us any friends though! Don’t fuck about and just say it.
Football Special Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, EssEffCee said: God that brings back bad memories. Gonna have that stupid fucking theme tune stuck in my head all night now. I love it, used to watch it with the kids, feel sad they dont want to watch it with me anymore 1
trousers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, HedgeEnder said: The information I’ve seen is 100% true and is from a former senior high court Judge via a friend who is a KC and Judge. It clearly wouldn’t make us any friends though! "Doof doof doof doof doof doof doof doof doof...." 7
Cuddles Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Football Special said: I love it, used to watch it with the kids, feel sad they dont want to watch it with me anymore We could all put it on instead of the final 🤣
trousers Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 25 minutes ago, HedgeEnder said: That’s not as far fetched as you might think. I, and one other poster on here who I won’t name, have seen some pretty compelling evidence to suggest that we could indeed go to the high court and take out an injunction to stop the final and challenge the outcome of the arbitration appeal. What I really want to know is... Is Nathan Tyson still signing for us...? #blastfromthepast
Saintinnot Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, HedgeEnder said: The information I’ve seen is 100% true and is from a former senior high court Judge via a friend who is a KC and Judge. It clearly wouldn’t make us any friends though! Imagine the damages and costs if we got an interim injunction and then our case failed would run into tens of millions so I find these not at all likely - its too late now !
Willo of Whiteley Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, trousers said: What I really want to know is... Is Nathan Tyson still signing for us...? #blastfromthepast Nicky Maynard? Jim Magilton? Brian Stock? Take your pick 😂
Willo of Whiteley Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago I would be fascinated to be a fly on the wall as soon as Dragan flies over for his next board meeting 😂
bubblyone1976 Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 hours ago, trousers said: I wasn't asking about the rules... we already know that the same 'crime' is treated differently now... that's not my point... I was just wondering who was more prolific at spying (regardless of the different punishments)... Bielsa or Eckert... I guess we'll find out in due course.... Think Bielsa did it himself though. Not sending a load of teenagers like some Fagan figure!
Cuddles Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, trousers said: "Doof doof doof doof doof doof doof doof doof...." 4
trousers Posted 59 minutes ago Posted 59 minutes ago (edited) 16 minutes ago, saintant said: Not to disbelieve what you've seen but isn't it a bit late in the day to be suggesting we are trying to get the game called off? People are already travelling and it's less than 20 hours away. Would be highly entertaining if Dragan has pressed the "shit or bust" button though* (*FAO the banter-bypass-brigade: no, I'm not seriously expecting this to happen) Edited 56 minutes ago by trousers
trousers Posted 58 minutes ago Posted 58 minutes ago 2 minutes ago, Willo of Whiteley said: I would be fascinated to be a fly on the wall as soon as Dragan flies over for his next board meeting 😂 He flew over yesterday...
Smirking_Saint Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago 32 minutes ago, HedgeEnder said: That’s not as far fetched as you might think. I, and one other poster on here who I won’t name, have seen some pretty compelling evidence to suggest that we could indeed go to the high court and take out an injunction to stop the final and challenge the outcome of the arbitration appeal. Im sure that’ll put us back in the EFLs good books 1
SNSUN Posted 57 minutes ago Posted 57 minutes ago 1 minute ago, trousers said: He flew over yesterday... "So lads, anything happen while I was away?" 6
LaptopSaint Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago FFS SFC, get off the fucking canvas and do something. Shit at spying. Shit at defending ourselves. Shit at communicating with the fans. Shit at understanding why any of this really matters to so many people. Shit at knowing how angry fans are going to be until they’re all gone. Absolute charlatans. If I was a lawyer with time on my hands and some spare cash I’d organize a class action suit and bankrupt the fuckers before a fan-based buyout starting again in the Conference South. As for other fans, beyond the gobshite noise on social media, I’ve had loads of mates who support other teams get in touch and say it’s really harsh and sets a stupid precedent. Apart from all that I’m not angry at all. 1
hippo Posted 56 minutes ago Posted 56 minutes ago Just now, SNSUN said: "So lads, anything happen while I was away?" “Big game tomorrow!” 2
saintant Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago Just now, trousers said: Would be highly entertaining if Dragan has pressed the "shit or bust" though* (*FAO of the banter-bypass-brigade: no, I'm not seriously expecting this to happen) Aint that the truth 🙂 He's a Serb so you never know. Maybe he's gone into full blown self destruct mode and is ready to have his say and to hell with the consequences. Maybe the volcano has erupted.
Willo of Whiteley Posted 55 minutes ago Posted 55 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, trousers said: He flew over yesterday... Clearly I’ve been working too hard and missed this 😂 Where are the ITK’s at these days. #HowIsDragan
saintant Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago 16 minutes ago, HedgeEnder said: The information I’ve seen is 100% true and is from a former senior high court Judge via a friend who is a KC and Judge. It clearly wouldn’t make us any friends though! High circles you move in.
trousers Posted 54 minutes ago Posted 54 minutes ago Just now, saintant said: Aint that the truth 🙂 He's a Serb so you never know. Maybe he's gone into full blown self destruct mode and is ready to have his say and to hell with the consequences. Maybe the volcano has erupted. Sweepstake on whether we still have a club to support this time next week....? #nervouslaughter 🤣 2
saintant Posted 52 minutes ago Posted 52 minutes ago 16 minutes ago, RedArmy said: Don’t fuck about and just say it. Even if true he clearly can't reveal anything. Think it's a wind up myself.
Cuddles Posted 52 minutes ago Posted 52 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, SNSUN said: "So lads, anything happen while I was away?" "So, boss, we've got four points..." "Ok, and they are..." 👀 💀 2
S-Clarke Posted 51 minutes ago Posted 51 minutes ago I cannot see any way an injection is any sort of possibility. It's too late. Fans have already travelled, players are already there. $$$$$$ talks and that will mean it will not be stopped by any injuction. At this point the club should stop trying that angle and own it and start rebuilding what they've trashed.
trousers Posted 51 minutes ago Posted 51 minutes ago Just now, saintant said: Even if true he clearly can't reveal anything. Think it's a wind up myself. Give it an hour and it'll be all over twitter (or whatever the f*** it's called now)
S-Clarke Posted 50 minutes ago Posted 50 minutes ago Just now, trousers said: Give it an hour and it'll be all over twitter (or whatever the f*** it's called now) Twatter. 1
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