Sports Republics response to “Spygate”

[sadoldgit]

40 minutes ago, LGTL said:

Yes, he is, and he should absolutely be sacked for his role (or complete non-role) in the media fallout of all this. 

Maybe Dragan told him to keep quiet? It seems very odd that there was so little from our side. A Head of Comms, you would assume, would have been gagging to respond.

[JohnnyShearer2.0]

1 hour ago, Livewire said:

Agree 💯. SPB are a good law firm. Kate Gallafent knows her stuff. They came on the scene likely when it was too late. Which is why I am zeroing in on the initial response. They had to instruct SPB straight away. That would have increased the likelihood of getting ahead of things and reacting appropriately. As it was, the initial reaction was... inadequate. It sealed our punishment.

Interesting insight. I've probably been hasty in saying the lawyers were rubbish. Seems like in general Saints dug their own grave more than anything. 

[East Kent Saint]

You have to remember people are appointed who are mates or do good presentations are often useless when it comes to making actual decisions or know what is going on . 

[LegalEagle]

5 minutes ago, JohnnyShearer2.0 said:

Interesting insight. I've probably been hasty in saying the lawyers were rubbish. Seems like in general Saints dug their own grave more than anything. 

SPB are a good firm. What did for us here - if it is correct so we do have to caveat this - is Parsons getting on his knees to Gibson in the Boro boardroom on the day of the first leg. Can anyone remember where that story came from? Or was it just internet Chinese whispers?

[Gloucester Saint]

Just now, LegalEagle said:

SPB are a good firm. What did for us here - if it is correct so we do have to caveat this - is Parsons getting on his knees to Gibson in the Boro boardroom on the day of the first leg. Can anyone remember where that story came from? Or was it just internet Chinese whispers?

Was in the Daily Telegraph IIRC

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 hours ago, Toussaint said:

I was was fixated on the pepper grinder?!?

Well, 'boro have failed to grind out results in the league... the semi finals... the final...

[Toussaint]

1 minute ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Well, 'boro have failed to grind out results in the league... the semi finals... the final...

Ok, this is your fault, but this is where my brain went…(abridged version)

pepper

salt and pepper 

squid 

tentacles 

testicles 

balls

ballsup 

= Biggest ever balls up. 
 

Seemed obvious 

 

 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

2 hours ago, Livewire said:

I am an in-house solicitor in a relatively large commercial company and am commenting from that perspective. Saints' initial response was brutally and stunningly inept. The tribunal as good as concluded that we lied to them at the outset by saying it was isolated and by making light of it. Who marshalled that initial response? Who gathered the facts? An in-house lawyer stops everything, speaks to everyone relevant and gets to the bottom of it. Was that done? If so, were any lies told to whoever asked the questions? Like someone said above, we had to get on top of the truth internally ASAP, which would have enabled us to formulate an appropriate response. I imagine no one legal was involved until it was too late - which is stunning. Parsons having that informal chat to Gibson at their place - was he advised to do so? By whom? The club were found to run the operation from the top - does that mean Tonda or the management? If a regulator comes after you, collaborate (unless you are Man City) and look like you mean it. We looked like we had something to hide. Not to mention the PR angle, where we were immediately treated like war criminals. There was no response to that. I don't blame the people running the appeal - by then it was too late. 

Agreed. There's quite a few on this board, who work in industries where the above requirements from legal/compliance would be standard, and well ingrained, processes. There's an incident and the wheels immediately begin turning.

If persons have hidden, misled or outright lied during that process there will be hell to pay. That's sending people out there to lie to police, courts and regulators, and we may see some of that in the FA in estivation results.

@ChristopheVAFC makes the good point, that silence may be part of the club conducting a full internal investigation, not just into the spying itself, but into the information that was known and shared throughout the club.

If you can't rely on the veracity of the information, then there won't be a press release with any detail.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

13 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

Ok, this is your fault, but this is where my brain went…(abridged version)

pepper

salt and pepper 

squid 

tentacles 

testicles 

balls

ballsup 

= Biggest ever balls up. 
 

Seemed obvious 

 

 

It does. Hard to think of THB using anything other than this, the most straightforward, reasoning.