Tonda Eckert

[Polaroid Saint]

On 28/06/2026 at 21:41, Zorba said:

Petard~from the middle French word pétard, homorously derives from péter—meaning “to break wind” or fart.

Who knew Peter meant that?

anyway …we fell on our own fart!

 

 

 

On 28/06/2026 at 22:41, Whitey Grandad said:

"Hoist with his own petard" is a quote from Hamlet. In this instance a Petard is a small explosive device, a type of bomb. The name ultimately derives from the French for fart, as you have said.

It's classic Shakespeare innit? Bawdy word play hidden in an otherwise serious speech. I bet he guffawed to himself when he wrote that. Bill loved his fart jokes, (and willy, fanny, bum and even 'Yo Mamma' jokes), but Hamlet really does mean, in the context of the play 'small bomb' (as he plots revenge on Claudius) and he means 'hoisted' in the sense of to get blown UP...

...See, Shakespeare also understood the physics of explosive devices and they blow you up and away ('hoist'). 

Hence my questioning the phrase as written by Egg; by falling on our own petard, I wondered if he was suggesting some act of self sacrifice, where we purposely jump on the bomb we laid. Perhaps not, but, as a wannabe cunning linguist myself, I immediately wondered if it was a purposeful bit of idiom blending - or, as they are otherwise known, an "eggcorn".

 

*Thanks for your consideration and time in this matter.*

[Disco Stu]

Reading this thread when it's bumped again thinking there's been an update regarding the FA investigation...

 

[CSA96]

Suppose this belongs here too... update:

 

[Verbal]

On 30/06/2026 at 14:18, Disco Stu said:

Reading this thread when it's bumped again thinking there's been an update regarding the FA investigation...

 

*Immediately followed by a post that gives an update regarding the FA investigation.*

Honestly think Saintsweb is a den of fate-tempters. 

[sadoldgit]

On 29/06/2026 at 23:26, Polaroid Saint said:

It's classic Shakespeare innit? Bawdy word play hidden in an otherwise serious speech. I bet he guffawed to himself when he wrote that. Bill loved his fart jokes, (and willy, fanny, bum and even 'Yo Mamma' jokes), but Hamlet really does mean, in the context of the play 'small bomb' (as he plots revenge on Claudius) and he means 'hoisted' in the sense of to get blown UP...

...See, Shakespeare also understood the physics of explosive devices and they blow you up and away ('hoist'). 

Hence my questioning the phrase as written by Egg; by falling on our own petard, I wondered if he was suggesting some act of self sacrifice, where we purposely jump on the bomb we laid. Perhaps not, but, as a wannabe cunning linguist myself, I immediately wondered if it was a purposeful bit of idiom blending - or, as they are otherwise known, an "eggcorn".

 

*Thanks for your consideration and time in this matter.*

Michael Stipe of REM fame loved this phrase. He was initially told that it meant that you like the smell of your own farts. Hopefully someone put him right. I can confirm that it means being blown up by your own bomb (used to blow in door or walls in medieval times).

Edited 1 hour ago by sadoldgit

[CB Fry]

His "I didn't realise it was against the rules" routine is not going to hold up that well. Especially if that implies he was doing it at Barnsley for two years.

We just need the ban to be matches not months.

[DellBlockH]

3 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

His "I didn't realise it was against the rules" routine is not going to hold up that well. Especially if that implies he was doing it at Barnsley for two years.

We just need the ban to be matches not months.

No. We need there to be no ban or, at worst, a suspended ban. The club has been punished already out of all proportion to the offence. Tonda has been punished, presumably, by not getting his promotion bonus or Premier League wage deal. Give him a telling off and we can all move on.

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

His "I didn't realise it was against the rules" routine is not going to hold up that well. Especially if that implies he was doing it at Barnsley for two years.

We just need the ban to be matches not months.

according to the mighty Gemini this are the longest bans for managers

[Gloucester Saint]

5 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

His "I didn't realise it was against the rules" routine is not going to hold up that well. Especially if that implies he was doing it at Barnsley for two years.

We just need the ban to be matches not months.

Dragan might have made a cock up not at least putting him on gardening leave pending the FA outcome.