Nexstar Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=11519 Can't see him having more of a chance of "regular football" with wright in goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Makes sense to lose a keeper but I'd much rather see Forecast shipped out. Useless and a totally unnecessary transfer. Bart seemed like he was going to be a top keeper for us but for one reason or another he's gone down hill in the last couple of seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Who could have forecast the day a Pole got a job outside Southampton and not in Southampton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deppo Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Certainly not Tommy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=11519 Can't see him having more of a chance of "regular football" with wright in goal. Agreed, not much chance of first team footy at Ipswich. That article said we have Davis, Forecast, Poke and Pernacky, I thought Poke was on loan at Torquay? I agree with Andy_Porter about getting rid of Forecast instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Is this the old, "loan out Bart, rather than admit you made a mistake signing Forecast in the first place" trick? Forecast, Pulis, Gasmi, Pekhart, Smith, Robertson and now Bart. How many pointless transfers does one team need in a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuz Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 I have often wondered if this is correct: http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=43102 According to Soccerbase, Bart had started a sum total of 5 professional games before joining us...anyone know if this is right or not. If so it was a bit of a gamble to get him in, and his initial good form was even more amazing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 I suspect Bart has lost his confidence. Shame - he couldve been sold for a small fortune in time had he been managed properly. I suspect we'll see Bart as the Polish 1st team keeper in the next 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Hopefully he is being shipped out to raise cash for a loanie. Made no sense having him and Forecast sat there scratching their asses - yet more very poor management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 So what's the deal with Poke then? I was under the impression he was on loan at Torquay for the season? As for Bialkowski, it seems a bit strange that he's gone to Ipswich for first-team football. Maybe it's a move to get him off the wage bill? Or maybe he's been allowed to leave so we can free up some wages for a new loan signing? I don't know really, but it's a bit of a weird one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Is this the old, "loan out Bart, rather than admit you made a mistake signing Forecast in the first place" trick? Forecast, Pulis, Gasmi, Pekhart, Smith, Robertson and now Bart. How many pointless transfers does one team need in a season. Spot on. Quantity over quality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ribbo Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 didnt poke get injured and the loan was cancelled, or was that last season? and forcast was bought in because everyone thought kelv was off close to the transfer window but instead he didnt turn his phone on and the window closed (that was the rumour on here at the time). If kelvin had of gone and no replacement sourced I would have been even more depressed to have just Bart + Poke around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenilworthy Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 If Ipswich do the same job on the Bartman as they did on Fuller, who came back a different player, then it might be a great deal for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Fair enough as nothing is happening for him here with KD on good form and reserve duty's split between bart and the weather man. 1 thing thats got me confused though is the recall option. How have they got that in there? Does loaning keepers get different rules to outfield players? As I was under the impression that thre is no recall option in the initial loan period but any extention would be then have the recall option added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Cue KD injury... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 This is a strange one. Poke has gone to Torquay for the rest of the season and then his contract expires so in effect he is no longer a Saints player. And Forecast is a crap keeper, according to Webster, who was then put on gardening leave for expressing an opinion. Let's hope Davis does not pick up an injury between then and now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 We do have a recall clause on him and why not get him off the books for a few months to save some wonga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SamKimish Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Cue KD injury... Wouldn't matter any more than before today's news as there is a recall clause on Bart's move... My knowledge of transfers sadly comes down to little more than my "experience" on Football Manager but according to the extremely accurate game there is always an option to include a recall clause and is just something to be agreed upon between the two clubs involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Maybe the circus in Ipswich is short of a clown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Larkin Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 This is a strange one. Poke has gone to Torquay for the rest of the season and then his contract expires so in effect he is no longer a Saints player. And Forecast is a crap keeper, according to Webster, who was then put on gardening leave for expressing an opinion. Let's hope Davis does not pick up an injury between then and now. I seem to remember that we got Poke to sign a one year extention to his contract at the start of this season, so it runs out in June 2010. That was the reason that his move to Torquay was slightly delayed, I recall. Even so, it matters not a jot because I don't think there's any chance of Poke playing for Saints' first team any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 This is a strange one. Poke has gone to Torquay for the rest of the season and then his contract expires so in effect he is no longer a Saints player. And Forecast is a crap keeper, according to Webster, who was then put on gardening leave for expressing an opinion. Let's hope Davis does not pick up an injury between then and now. I wondered if this move was influenced by Webster who may still be respected at Portman Rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 This is a strange one. Poke has gone to Torquay for the rest of the season and then his contract expires so in effect he is no longer a Saints player. And Forecast is a crap keeper, according to Webster, who was then put on gardening leave for expressing an opinion. Let's hope Davis does not pick up an injury between then and now. Poke had his contract extended before the start of this season and was then loaned to Torquay on a season-long deal. He was injured and returned to Saints for treatment (25 September). Former Saint Scott Bevan has been the regular keeper for the Gulls this season since Poke was injured (on loan from Shrewsbury). Since Poke's deal was season-long I suspect he is registered with them still and cannot play for us, but not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 I suspect Bart has lost his confidence. Shame - he couldve been sold for a small fortune in time had he been managed properly. I suspect we'll see Bart as the Polish 1st team keeper in the next 3-4 years. how was he mis-managed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 I have been a fan of Bart since he joined us. Without him we wouldn't have got to the play offs imo. He was great after he had come in because Kelvin was injured/suspended. But since that play off season he has lost his confidence and hopefully he can get it back as I believe he will be our number 1 next season if we get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Doesn't Bialkowski's contract expire in the summer as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Could this be the beginning of the end? Something tells me we are fooked. )-: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Could this be the beginning of the end? Something tells me we are fooked. )-: surely a lot more worrying signs than a player, who quite rightly, has not had a game all season, goes out on loan with a recall option if we need him!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 This is a strange one. Poke has gone to Torquay for the rest of the season and then his contract expires so in effect he is no longer a Saints player. And Forecast is a crap keeper, according to Webster, who was then put on gardening leave for expressing an opinion. Let's hope Davis does not pick up an injury between then and now. Poke signed a one year extension to his contract. I have absolutely no idea where the article is, but i'm pretty sure of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Poke signed a one year extension to his contract. I have absolutely no idea where the article is, but i'm pretty sure of this. at least 2010 http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/?page_id=10326 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannyboy_Saint Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 I dont know why we keep giving Poke contract extensions. Nothing ive seen of him suggests hes anywhere good enough to be a championship keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak_33 goals Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 I suspect Bart has lost his confidence. Shame - he couldve been sold for a small fortune in time had he been managed properly. I suspect we'll see Bart as the Polish 1st team keeper in the next 3-4 years. it could happend but...its hard, extremly hard..to be nr1 i Polands team, 1.Boruc Celtic 2.Fabianski + 18 years old Szczesny in Arsenal 3.Kuszczak Man U 4.Zaluska Celtic 5.Przyrowski (Polonia) very talented will be sold this summer 6. Miskiewicz (18 years) AC Milan 7. Dudek.. hehe, Real Madrid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 Bart was great when he first came to SMS but after the Newcastle Cup game, when he was injured, he has been dodgy on the few occasions I have seen him. Let us hope he can regain his confidence as he has all the attributes to be a very good keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 "He was getting a little impatient so to be fair to him it will be good for him to go somewhere where he can be a little more involved and then if we need him we can re-call him." Panic over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 I dont know why we keep giving Poke contract extensions. Nothing ive seen of him suggests hes anywhere good enough to be a championship keeper. He was in our youth team when we were in the Prem so he must have something about him. Personally the few times i've seen him i've been impressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 He was in our youth team when we were in the Prem so he must have something about him. Personally the few times i've seen him i've been impressed. You didn't see him at Hull then? I know he was struggling with an injury but that was on a par with Granger's performance at Everton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 You didn't see him at Hull then? I know he was struggling with an injury but that was on a par with Granger's performance at Everton. He'd pulled a muscle, what do you want him to do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
labibs Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 Good move by the club. Barring an injury to KD, he won't play again this season. If you can get his wages off the books by loaning him out, it's a good move. Chuck in the recall clause and I cannot see a problem with this at all. To be fair to Forecast, I think he was signed with the intention that we were going to sell KD. He then would have been in a straight fight with Bart for the no. 1 spot. Obviously KD stayed and it now looks a bit of a strange one. Mind you, with KD out of contract at the end of the season and unlikely to be short of suitors, he could well be our no. 1 next year. I've never seen him play, so can't pass judgement on his ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 Good move by the club. Barring an injury to KD, he won't play again this season. If you can get his wages off the books by loaning him out, it's a good move. Chuck in the recall clause and I cannot see a problem with this at all. To be fair to Forecast, I think he was signed with the intention that we were going to sell KD. He then would have been in a straight fight with Bart for the no. 1 spot. Obviously KD stayed and it now looks a bit of a strange one. Mind you, with KD out of contract at the end of the season and unlikely to be short of suitors, he could well be our no. 1 next year. I've never seen him play, so can't pass judgement on his ability. I will be furious if we don't offer him a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 This is a strange one. Poke has gone to Torquay for the rest of the season and then his contract expires so in effect he is no longer a Saints player. And Forecast is a crap keeper, according to Webster, who was then put on gardening leave for expressing an opinion. Let's hope Davis does not pick up an injury between then and now. As usual Dunc, you inside source is completely wrong! As someone else has already said Poke signed a year extension to his contract. Also Webster has a very high opinion of Forecast as a keeper and was instrumental in him coming here in the first place. It is Bart who Webster had very little time for at all. Whatever the reason for Webster going on gardening leave it was definately NOT any comments he made re: Forecast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 As usual Dunc, you inside source is completely wrong! As someone else has already said Poke signed a year extension to his contract. Also Webster has a very high opinion of Forecast as a keeper and was instrumental in him coming here in the first place. It is Bart who Webster had very little time for at all. Whatever the reason for Webster going on gardening leave it was definately NOT any comments he made re: Forecast. thanks for that. Shows how slow saints news is - player who can't get near first 11, nor would any of us want him playing, goes on loan for last couple of months with recall option! -and I have just taken it to 41 posts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 Good on the lad and the club! Bart needs the first team experience and confidence again to be at his best. I wish Bart the very best. We can't rely on Kelvin for years due to his constant ageing and our strict wage policy which has been implemented by Rupert Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 Good on the lad and the club! Bart needs the first team experience and confidence again to be at his best. I wish Bart the very best. We can't rely on Kelvin for years due to his constant ageing and our strict wage policy which has been implemented by Rupert Lowe. As long as he doesn't play against Norwich like he did against Rotherham it makes no difference to us really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 He was in our youth team when we were in the Prem so he must have something about him. Personally the few times i've seen him i've been impressed. Youth team?! He was in the first team for a while when we were in the premiership ...and looked really promising too. Unfortunately, since then he's looked rubbish! We seem to have a bit of a track record of spoiling good keepers. Paul Smith also looked good when he first came, and we completely detroyed his confidence. In fact Davis is the only one in recent years that comes to mind that has bounced back to good form after a 'down' period with us. K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 You didn't see him at Hull then? I know he was struggling with an injury but that was on a par with Granger's performance at Everton. According to someone on here he is now the GK coach !!! Worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 I dont know why we keep giving Poke contract extensions. Nothing ive seen of him suggests hes anywhere good enough to be a championship keeper. Not everyone has the same view, here is an extract from the Torquay site: "Michael is on a season long loan from Southampton and his arrival back at Plainmoor after a very impressive spell last season was greeted with elation by the Gulls supporters. Commanding in the penalty box, a good shot stopper and a huge physical presence Michael may well end up playing at a much higher level and it would surprise no-one". OK, so Torquay are a in the Conf, but it wasn't so long ago that they were in League One, and Paul Buckle is no mug. Keepers rarely make it when they are 23, and he could well be a good back up next season, especially if we are in League One as it currently looks, might even be 1st choice if KD wants away which would not be a surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 I still have nightmares about the Palace game last season, with Bart in goal and Bennett/Makin centre-backs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 This is a strange one. Poke has gone to Torquay for the rest of the season and then his contract expires so in effect he is no longer a Saints player. And Forecast is a crap keeper, according to Webster, who was then put on gardening leave for expressing an opinion. Let's hope Davis does not pick up an injury between then and now. I will be furious if we don't offer him a new contract. Of course we'll offer him a new contract, but assuming it will either be for half as much as his current one or with us being in League 1, I very much doubt he'll accept it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 Of course we'll offer him a new contract, but assuming it will either be for half as much as his current one or with us being in League 1, I very much doubt he'll accept it. I wouldn't be so sure about that, he said himself that on the last few days of the summer transfer window he turned his phone off because he knew there were offers for him, but didn't want to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Reigned Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 I wouldn't be so sure about that, he said himself that on the last few days of the summer transfer window he turned his phone off because he knew there were offers for him, but didn't want to leave. We'll see what he says in the summer when he gets offered two/three times as much by other clubs, plus a signing on fee and bearing in mind it's likely to be the last contract he ever signs. And this is assuming we're still in the division we are now, which is highly doubtful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now