Delmary Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 BBC sunday paper gossip colunm http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/8019010.stm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I cannot see Shearer leaving Newcastle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Shearer will commit with Newcastle whether they stay up or go down in my opinion. If this is to be a sign of the new owners ambition though, I am in favour of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washsaint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 This is an old one...... group of wealthy Saints fans sounded out Shearer about becoming manager a few months ago and before administration. From what I understand, they ahd the monies to take over the club but it was all too difficult with all the different factions. Hopefully, they are still in the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Shearer has said that he will only be at Newcastle until the end of the season. So who knows, be good if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Also says Lowe's planning a comeback. Rather have the Conference myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Fandango Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Less to do with factions and more to do with them not having the funds. If they are still in the frame we will be fooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulSaint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Rather have Paul ince myself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Rather have Paul ince myself? Only you can answer that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItchenRob Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Personally I dont think Shearar's heart would be in it. He would always be looking in a North Easterly direction. Perhaps more importantly I am not sure he is that inspiring either motivationally or tactically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I would prefer Keegan over Shearer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Chuckle Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I would prefer Tisdale or Simpson over Shearer!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I think this is stale news and a throwback to the Fulthorpe intentions which seems were stillborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I would prefer Keegan over Shearer. Ferk..........I'd prefer Hoddle over either Keegan or Shearer.......IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_saint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Personally I dont think Shearar's heart would be in it. He would always be looking in a North Easterly direction. His Mrs is from Southampton though, so plenty of connections down here. But yes i do agree..... He'll always be wanted by the toon faithful. even if they do get relegated and he doesnt stay on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 This is the Fullthorpe story regurgitated - Fullthorpe promised huge investment to Shearer and asked him to become manager and we know what happened to those untold riches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 This is the Fullthorpe story regurgitated - Fullthorpe promised huge investment to Shearer and asked him to become manager and we know what happened to those untold riches. Is Fullthorpe still one the scene or has he now disappeared? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Am I the only one to think Shearer is being touted as the manager of all managers?! I know his Geordie connections means that Newcastle fans love him, but we love Le Tiss and personally, I would never want him as a manager for a number of reasons. He has no experience as a manager what so ever, and there is also the possibility of him doing a carp job and losing his iconic status amongst fans. OK Keane did it well and stepped up from player to manager straight away, but it is very rare a top player becomes a top manager. Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez etc etc etc all top managers but not top players. I for one prey Saints dont get Le Tiss, Dodd, Benali or Shearer as the next manager. I do not think they will do well. We need a battling manager that will scare the fook out of our team and get the best out of them like Strachan did with our (somewhat) mediorce squad in the good ol' Premiership days. My vote would go to someone like Boothroyd or Ince Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Am I the only one to think Shearer is being touted as the manager of all managers?! I know his Geordie connections means that Newcastle fans love him, but we love Le Tiss and personally, I would never want him as a manager for a number of reasons. He has no experience as a manager what so ever, and there is also the possibility of him doing a carp job and losing his iconic status amongst fans. OK Keane did it well and stepped up from player to manager straight away, but it is very rare a top player becomes a top manager. Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez etc etc etc all top managers but not top players. I for one prey Saints dont get Le Tiss, Dodd, Benali or Shearer as the next manager. I do not think they will do well. We need a battling manager that will scare the fook out of our team and get the best out of them like Strachan did with our (somewhat) mediorce squad in the good ol' Premiership days. My vote would go to someone like Boothroyd or Ince Can't see either boothroyd or ince as scary figures, would much rather have had keane, but we missed the boat there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Can't see either boothroyd or ince as scary figures, would much rather have had keane, but we missed the boat there. You see, if only we had gone into administration earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint63 Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Am I the only one to think Shearer is being touted as the manager of all managers?! I know his Geordie connections means that Newcastle fans love him, but we love Le Tiss and personally, I would never want him as a manager for a number of reasons. He has no experience as a manager what so ever, and there is also the possibility of him doing a carp job and losing his iconic status amongst fans. OK Keane did it well and stepped up from player to manager straight away, but it is very rare a top player becomes a top manager. Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez etc etc etc all top managers but not top players. I for one prey Saints dont get Le Tiss, Dodd, Benali or Shearer as the next manager. I do not think they will do well. We need a battling manager that will scare the fook out of our team and get the best out of them like Strachan did with our (somewhat) mediorce squad in the good ol' Premiership days. My vote would go to someone like Boothroyd or Ince Does this imply Ince was not a top player?!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Can't see either boothroyd or ince as scary figures, would much rather have had keane, but we missed the boat there. the only scary bastard i can think of is allen but the skate connections along with the rapid decline of his career probably make that a no no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I would prefer Tisdale or Simpson over Shearer!!!!! Homer or Bart??:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Ferk..........I'd prefer Hoddle over either Keegan or Shearer.......IMHO of course. Sensible choice, pity we didn't make it in 2004 as we would have avoided the **** we are in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Sensible choice, pity we didn't make it in 2004 as we would have avoided the **** we are in now. If Hoddle hadn`t walked out on us when he did we may have avoided the **** we are in now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 If Hoddle hadn`t walked out on us when he did we may have avoided the **** we are in now. Yes, we did rather badly under WGS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Yes, we did rather badly under WGS. In that case I suspect that we could find someone better than Hoddle again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Ferk..........I'd prefer Hoddle over either Keegan or Shearer.......IMHO of course. Then, with all due respect, you need a brain transplant. Keegan is one of the most succesful post-war football managers. Check out his win ratio and also the fact he has overseen promotion for Manchester City, Newcastle and Fulham - more than once. No manager can match his promotion record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Then, with all due respect, you need a brain transplant. Keegan is one of the most succesful post-war football managers. Check out his win ratio and also the fact he has overseen promotion for Manchester City, Newcastle and Fulham - more than once. No manager can match his promotion record. Don't have a problem with his stats, it's his stickability that is in question. FWIW, my response was tongue in cheek, to the previous post....reality!!, I'd have none of them, I was happy with Pearson, and we need someone like him...IMHO of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Don't have a problem with his stats, it's his stickability that is in question. FWIW, my response was tongue in cheek, to the previous post....reality!!, I'd have none of them, I was happy with Pearson, and we need someone like him...IMHO of course. KK would stick around long enough I agree with your second bit 110%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
explorer saint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Newcastle are going down, but I don't think Shearer will fancy Div 1 footie he will be on a hiding to nothing, we need an experienced manager to get us out. If we had stayed in up think this could have been on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Shearer will commit with Newcastle whether they stay up or go down in my opinion. If this is to be a sign of the new owners ambition though, I am in favour of it. I didn't know that Lowe was wealthy ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 No way, shearer will consider us!! I want a stable manager anyway who knows the division!! Young with loads of energy and a knack of getting crap players to play well!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 No way, shearer will consider us!! I want a stable manager anyway who knows the division!! Young with loads of energy and a knack of getting crap players to play well!! Mickey Channon, would but he has his hands full with 2000 2 year olds;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I cannot see Shearer leaving Newcastle Neither can I ...and to be fair, Shearer isn't proven as a manager/coach and he isn't likely to drop TWO divisons, or even one if Newcastle go down. To be fair, like many of the older fans I remember the legend that grew up around Shearer (then 17) scored a hat-trick v. Arsenal at the Dell in 1987. BUT It took a long time for him to establish himself. In the next two seasons, he scored only 3 goals in 27 starts. Even when he became a regular(1990) his goal scoring record was very modest, and he left in 1992 aged 22, and went onto become one of Englands best post-war CF. HOWEVER, many great players have fallen by the wayside when it comes to managing teams. Keegan was good with ONE club, so too Hoddle. Keane was another recent victim. Even the 66 World Cup side didn't produce many. Only Jack Charlton and Ballie had any sort of career after that ..and then at lower levels. SORRY, the idea is nice, but the choice of manager is crucial...it needs experience and someone to work with young players. For me Lowe's last disaster was NOT keeping Nigel Pearson ! Alan Shearer ?.....a nice memory, but not someone to get us out of League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 No way, shearer will consider us!! I want a stable manager anyway who knows the division!! Young with loads of energy and a knack of getting crap players to play well!! Eddie Howe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TijuanaTim Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Neither can I ...and to be fair, Shearer isn't proven as a manager/coach and he isn't likely to drop TWO divisons, or even one if Newcastle go down. To be fair, like many of the older fans I remember the legend that grew up around Shearer (then 17) scored a hat-trick v. Arsenal at the Dell in 1987. BUT It took a long time for him to establish himself. In the next two seasons, he scored only 3 goals in 27 starts. Even when he became a regular(1990) his goal scoring record was very modest, and he left in 1992 aged 22, and went onto become one of Englands best post-war CF. HOWEVER, many great players have fallen by the wayside when it comes to managing teams. Keegan was good with ONE club, so too Hoddle. Keane was another recent victim. Even the 66 World Cup side didn't produce many. Only Jack Charlton and Ballie had any sort of career after that ..and then at lower levels. SORRY, the idea is nice, but the choice of manager is crucial...it needs experience and someone to work with young players. For me Lowe's last disaster was NOT keeping Nigel Pearson ! Alan Shearer ?.....a nice memory, but not someone to get us out of League 1. Young BT was much better for Saints than young She-rah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 OK Keane did it well and stepped up from player to manager straight away' date=' but [b']it is very rare a top player becomes a top manager[/b]. Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez etc etc etc all top managers but not top players. I for one prey Saints dont get Le Tiss, Dodd, Benali or Shearer as the next manager. I do not think they will do well. We need a battling manager that will scare the fook out of our team and get the best out of them like Strachan did with our (somewhat) mediorce squad in the good ol' Premiership days. My vote would go to someone like Boothroyd or Ince Strachan was a top player that became a top manager, your argument is rather defeated by this example. In many of the cases where a player does step up, it is the quality of his back-up team that is critical. Hence Shearer has Dowie as support. Hoddle needed Gorman. Although I don't think Le Tiss is the answer, he might work if he had back up of someone like Glyn Snodin. I think Shearer will become a good manager, but given that his stint at Newcastle is likely by his own admission to be short, he will always be looking to go back there when he has a modicum of success, and on that basis I would prefer not to have Shearer as manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Then, with all due respect, you need a brain transplant. Keegan is one of the most succesful post-war football managers. Check out his win ratio and also the fact he has overseen promotion for Manchester City, Newcastle and Fulham - more than once. No manager can match his promotion record. KK is usually successful with plenty of money, still takes a lot of skill, but he has never proved that he can operate succesfully with limited funds. He also clearly has a personailty trait that means he finds it difficult to cope when things get a little bit tough. Not knocking him, but he is not really the answer (and anyway would not be interested). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/97245 Sunday April 26,2009 By John Richardson A CONSORTIUM with substantial financial backing on the verge of taking over stricken Southampton want Alan Shearer as manager. Saints will start next season in League One after the Football League deducted 10 points following the club’s parent company going into administration. Now a consortium involving wealthy local businessmen is putting together a package to *resurrect the south coast club, which has slipped into football’s third tier for the first time since 1960. And the man they want to restore pride on the pitch is current Newcastle United boss Shearer, who started his playing career with Saints. This will present a summer dilemma both for Newcastle owner Mike Ashley and Shearer himself, who is already aware of the interest in him from the consortium. Shearer insists that he only took the Newcastle job for the last eight games of the season, hoping he could inspire his home-town club to stave off relegation to the Championship. But there has been talk that the former England striker could be persuaded to stay on, irrespective of Newcastle’s fate, for at least another season, providing enough cash to buy players is made available to him by Ashley. Now Shearer has been presented with another management option, and at another club which pulls at his heart-strings. The consortium are confident of being given the go-ahead to take over Saints and will be pushing for an answer from Shearer the moment Newcastle’s season has ended. They are promising the former England striker a substantial transfer kitty and the promise of no boardroom interference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Also says Lowe's planning a comeback. Rather have the Conference myself. That was the bit that scared me. Will this guy never stop? - he's brought the club to it's knees, relegated us twice, yet still thinks he's some kind of "saviour". Seriously, he needs to be sectioned... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 I don't want Shearer, I'd rather have someone who knows what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 If Hoddle hadn`t walked out on us when he did we may have avoided the **** we are in now. What if's are always interesting and in fact pointless as no one so far has manged to change history! So on the other hand how about what if we had accepted Hoddle Back rather then campaigned against him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 What if's are always interesting and in fact pointless as no one so far has manged to change history! So on the other hand how about what if we had accepted Hoddle Back rather then campaigned against him? I was responding ( probably rather predictably) to dalek2003`s ongoing assumption that if Hoddle had come back we wouldn`t be in this mess. Sadly my IF is as valid as anyone elses. "If ifs and ands were pots and pans there`d be no work for tinkers hands" .........apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 What if's are always interesting and in fact pointless as no one so far has manged to change history! So on the other hand how about what if we had accepted Hoddle Back rather then campaigned against him? You have a point, but surely it is rational that someone like Hoddle would have done better than PS and wigley. Remember, Hoddle was an ex manager of england, and very successful in footballing terms as well as being a successful ex Saints manager. PS lost the dressing room because he could not win the respect of the senior players who saw him as a L1 yokel ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 You have a point, but surely it is rational that someone like Hoddle would have done better than PS and wigley. Remember, Hoddle was an ex manager of england, and very successful in footballing terms as well as being a successful ex Saints manager. PS lost the dressing room because he could not win the respect of the senior players who saw him as a L1 yokel ! So, let me get this straight, are you for or against Hoddle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 You have a point, but surely it is rational that someone like Hoddle would have done better than PS and wigley. Remember, Hoddle was an ex manager of england, and very successful in footballing terms as well as being a successful ex Saints manager. ! 'cause Hoddle did so well at Wolves didn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waggy Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/97245 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thorpie the sinner Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 Mickey Channon, would but he has his hands full with 2000 2 year olds;) I like that!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doughnutman Posted 26 April, 2009 Share Posted 26 April, 2009 http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/97245 Sunday April 26,2009 By John Richardson A CONSORTIUM with substantial financial backing on the verge of taking over stricken Southampton want Alan Shearer as manager. Saints will start next season in League One after the Football League deducted 10 points following the club’s parent company going into administration. Now a consortium involving wealthy local businessmen is putting together a package to *resurrect the south coast club, which has slipped into football’s third tier for the first time since 1960. And the man they want to restore pride on the pitch is current Newcastle United boss Shearer, who started his playing career with Saints. This will present a summer dilemma both for Newcastle owner Mike Ashley and Shearer himself, who is already aware of the interest in him from the consortium. Shearer insists that he only took the Newcastle job for the last eight games of the season, hoping he could inspire his home-town club to stave off relegation to the Championship. But there has been talk that the former England striker could be persuaded to stay on, irrespective of Newcastle’s fate, for at least another season, providing enough cash to buy players is made available to him by Ashley. Now Shearer has been presented with another management option, and at another club which pulls at his heart-strings. The consortium are confident of being given the go-ahead to take over Saints and will be pushing for an answer from Shearer the moment Newcastle’s season has ended. They are promising the former England striker a substantial transfer kitty and the promise of no boardroom interference. Can't be everyones favourite duck-hunting chairman involved in this one then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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