buctootim Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 http://www.clubcall.com/southampton/prem-duo-eye-swoop-895906.html Tottenham and Fulham are being linked with a £5million summer move for Southampton midfielder Adam Lallana. Saints will be forced to cash in on their star players due to the club's precarious financial position and Lallana, along with fellow midfielder Andrew Surman, is set to be in demand. Spurs and Fulham are set to battle it out for the services of Lallana but 25 per cent of any transfer fee will have to go to the player's former club Bournemouth. Any sale could come too late to save Saints though with reports in the press claiming the club will go out of business in eight days unless they find a buyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 It's clearly a load of rubbish because we'd never get £5m for Lallana. Would love to be proved wrong though. Maybe a mini bidding war would put his price up a bit, but not that high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 I will eat my computer if Lallana goes for £5million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 April, 2009 It's clearly a load of rubbish because we'd never get £5m for Lallana. Would love to be proved wrong though. Maybe a mini bidding war would put his price up a bit, but not that high. True. Cant see it myself, but we sure could use the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 True. Cant see it myself, but we sure could use the money. and so could Bournemouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 I will eat my computer if Lallana goes for £5million. I'll eat my computer if he goes to a Premier League team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OurClaus Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 5 million! haha if we get anywhere near 2 million for him, i will eat my hat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 April, 2009 It does raise the impossible prospect that maybe Redknapp wants to be nice to two of his former clubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Spurs paying way over the odds for a young English player? Don't be ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 27 April, 2009 Share Posted 27 April, 2009 Tin hat at the ready...... Lallana will be a better player in the Prem than he is in the Championship. Happy to take a bet from anyone that he will be capped. Oh and we wont get anything like 5 million for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Well, I 'spose even 'arry wants to enter the gates of heaven one day and maybe his conscience is kicking in at long last, or maybe Jamie saw the faces of those sad Saints fans on Soccer AM and gave his old man a call. Either way, I now have shares in Saxa, so will try to ignore this unless and until it happens. Must add that Lallana is very good player in the making in my opinion and if money were not an issue I would want to keep him. Bugger it, I am getting all conspiracy theory'ist now and linkng this to that thread about the golf course rumour.... This forum should carry a government health warning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Tin hat at the ready...... Lallana will be a better player in the Prem than he is in the Championship. Happy to take a bet from anyone that he will be capped. Oh and we wont get anything like 5 million for him Spot on my friend. Crouching alongside you in the bunker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Massive lol at anybody willing to spend £5m on Lallana, i wouldn't want him for £1m let alone £5m! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Tin hat at the ready...... Lallana will be a better player in the Prem than he is in the Championship. Happy to take a bet from anyone that he will be capped. Oh and we wont get anything like 5 million for him Not a great passer, runs around with no significant end product, nothing like a prolific goalscorer for an AM. Sorry, can't see it. Half a million quid and a transfer to, say, Bristol City or Preston I could see. Premier League, not next season and I think not ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Maybe these clubs are White hats, and having seen our plight, are willing to pay over the odds, with a view to 'giving' us some dosh........Pigs are out early I see;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Tin hat at the ready...... Lallana will be a better player in the Prem than he is in the Championship. Happy to take a bet from anyone that he will be capped. Oh and we wont get anything like 5 million for him Agree. I think he could be a better player in the CCC than he was this year. But he clearly needed some experience around him, nuture him through his first full season! (And the next couple) But no, be lucky at the mo to get £2 mil. It'll probably be closer to a £1 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Do they get the rest of the club for that £5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Not a great passer, runs around with no significant end product, nothing like a prolific goalscorer for an AM. Sorry, can't see it. Half a million quid and a transfer to, say, Bristol City or Preston I could see. Premier League, not next season and I think not ever. Absolutely, I have seen very little from Lallana to suggest he is going on to do anything. Mcgoldrick has shown much more potential, and more importantly improvement, this season yet he isn't being shouted about. I would love it if we got anything over six figures for him, same goes for Surman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
La BoIS Saint Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Did someone misread the article and put an extra nought on by mistake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James_O_Mac Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 good riddance, he is turd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Tin hat at the ready...... Lallana will be a better player in the Prem than he is in the Championship. Happy to take a bet from anyone that he will be capped. Oh and we wont get anything like 5 million for him Couldn't agree more. I saw most of the early season games and was in the company of some current professionals as well as coaches and they all pointed to him as the stand out player who could go on to better things. Disappointing that his form deserted him and no one seemed to be able to pinpoint why but he didn't look comfortable in the position he was being asked to play. However £5M in the current climate doesn't equate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Not a great passer what a load of rubbish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Not a great passer, runs around with no significant end product, nothing like a prolific goalscorer for an AM. Sorry, can't see it. Half a million quid and a transfer to, say, Bristol City or Preston I could see. Premier League, not next season and I think not ever. I think he's about Guthrie standard overall, though more skilful but less skilled at tackling. And Guthrie was on the bench for a team in the bottom 3 of the Prem last night. Probably best not to mention I thought he was cack for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Absolutely, I have seen very little from Lallana to suggest he is going on to do anything. Mcgoldrick has shown much more potential, and more importantly improvement, this season yet he isn't being shouted about. I would love it if we got anything over six figures for him, same goes for Surman. Oh lordy, all McGoldrick has shown this season is that he can't pass a ball without it bobbling along and 12/13ths of his goals are mis-hit. Don't get me started on what it shows about the CCC when he can get 13 in the first place just by ambling around scuffing things. Of the two I'd take Lallana any day, even though he's suffered more than most by being surrounded by mediocrity. He's the kind of player that can do things on the ball in tight spaces that others can't, and if he learns to play the right through ball at the right time instead of hanging onto it too long, he'll have cracked it. Kinda like Kenwyne needing to learn to be in the box when the ball got there in order to score goals (which is also a criticism of McGoldrick when he plays up front, just for the record). It's like saying Schneiderlin is a bad player. He clearly isn't, he's a great passer (who can't head for toffee), but he needs to be in a team that can support him by making space with the kind of runs McGoldrick doesn't often make. We have a lot of players who have potential and might be much more effective with some slightly better players around them - it only takes one or two to drag the whole lot down. Of course the other possibility is they just need more time or to play at a lower level to shine, and some are about to get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Couldn't agree more. I saw most of the early season games and was in the company of some current professionals as well as coaches and they all pointed to him as the stand out player who could go on to better things. Disappointing that his form deserted him and no one seemed to be able to pinpoint why but he didn't look comfortable in the position he was being asked to play. However £5M in the current climate doesn't equate. Was that before you got loaned out Greenridge for trying to sit on the bench. £5m in any climate doesn't equate. Lallana hasn't stood out for the right reasons all season and apart from some useful cameo roles last season that if Saints had to have a fire sale I doubt he would be top on many club's shopping list and probably not even in the first 6 of our post 'desirable' assets. IMHO not even worth a £1m but more than happy to take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 http://www.clubcall.com/southampton/prem-duo-eye-swoop-895906.html Tottenham and Fulham are being linked with a £5million summer move for Southampton midfielder Adam Lallana. Saints will be forced to cash in on their star players due to the club's precarious financial position and Lallana, along with fellow midfielder Andrew Surman, is set to be in demand. Spurs and Fulham are set to battle it out for the services of Lallana but 25 per cent of any transfer fee will have to go to the player's former club Bournemouth. Any sale could come too late to save Saints though with reports in the press claiming the club will go out of business in eight days unless they find a buyer. 5 million pence perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Also, since when was 13 goals in 45 games a good strike rate? DMG has improved no doubt, but his attitude was so appalling that it didn't take much to improve on. I have no doubt someone will pay a half decent fee, but that's just how stupid football is. The guy can't pass and can't kick a ball properly ffs. Correct and for the best part of the season spent to long walking around the pitch with his hands on his hips. Might get away with that in the Premiership if your name is Ronaldo and things aren't going according to plan but in our predictament made him look like a lazy and petulant little hoodie IMO who can't a kick a ball hence two of the worse penatly misses you are likely to see this side of Berbatov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 5 million pence perhaps. Tough call that's still £50,000. Not sure many league 2 clubs can afford that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Complete fabricated rubbish - are you sure the decimal point is in the correct place in the article should it be £0.5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 At least one too many noughts in that figure unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Also, since when was 13 goals in 45 games a good strike rate? DMG has improved no doubt, but his attitude was so appalling that it didn't take much to improve on. I have no doubt someone will pay a half decent fee, but that's just how stupid football is. The guy can't pass and can't kick a ball properly ffs. 13 goals, 1 was scored by Lallana, 3 penalties, 2 in the League Cup. That leaves 7 league goals (and 2 assists) for a striker who has been pretty much ever present for the whole season. Okay it's the best we've got in our current side, but it's not a good strike rate. We can only pray he is either sold for silly money (over £1m) or does a Fryatt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Seems to me that some people are too quick to judge. How many thought that Jones was complete rubbish and never play well in the Premiership? Quite a few I recall. But what happens? We get £6m for him and does a reasonable job at Sunderland. Yes Lallana has had a poor season but I think he has got some abiliy about him - which could be more suited for the Premiership. £5m - I'd love that but don't see us getting near it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 I will eat my computer if Lallana goes for £5million. I'll eat my computer if he goes to a Premier League team. 5 million! haha if we get anywhere near 2 million for him, i will eat my hat... I'll provide the sauce. For what its worth, I don't think he's ready for the PL at the moment but he is a better player for the PL then for the CCC in the long run. Other then that I don't believe he'll go for more then 2 million, but I'm not eating anything to back up that claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 13 goals, 1 was scored by Lallana, 3 penalties, 2 in the League Cup. That leaves 7 league goals (and 2 assists) for a striker who has been pretty much ever present for the whole season. Okay it's the best we've got in our current side, but it's not a good strike rate. We can only pray he is either sold for silly money (over £1m) or does a Fryatt. Not a big McG fan and that penalty was pathetic but he has had a little scoring run in the last few games and with weaker opposition next season might get a few more. Hope he turns out to be L1's Kenwyne Jones (who got 10 in 10 at that level on loan for Sheff Wed) than his 19 games without a goal for relegated Port Vale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 TBF I would want £6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Seems to me that some people are too quick to judge. How many thought that Jones was complete rubbish and never play well in the Premiership? Quite a few I recall. But what happens? We get £6m for him and does a reasonable job at Sunderland. Yes Lallana has had a poor season but I think he has got some abiliy about him - which could be more suited for the Premiership. £5m - I'd love that but don't see us getting near it. :smt023 absolutely spot-on. he is a young player, ffs! so we give him away for £50,000 like some people are saying. then he matures into a decent player and for the sake of one bad season and a knee-jerk reaction we have wasted both money and talent. a few on here called for the blame-game to stop. that is true. piling on all this pressure on a young saints player (or two) is ludicrous imho. i would say that you have all gone nuts, but you were all f*cking nuts to begin with. tossers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 IMO Lallana is half a footballer. Strengths -Two footed, skillful, clever, tricky, good dribbler ! Weaknesses - Can't shoot, doesn't score, can't cross, not pacy ! It is possible that he would show better in a top team but I feel that he'll need a good mentor to improve his overall game ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 If, as a lot of people are suggesting, we go out of business in 8 days then surely all players would become free agents and we wouldn't even get 5p for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 If, as a lot of people are suggesting, we go out of business in 8 days then surely all players would become free agents and we wouldn't even get 5p for him. ...or...if we're bought out in the next week or so (and if it's true!!!) then a very nice immediate financial return on their investment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Seems to me that some people are too quick to judge. How many thought that Jones was complete rubbish and never play well in the Premiership? Quite a few I recall. But what happens? We get £6m for him and does a reasonable job at Sunderland. Yes Lallana has had a poor season but I think he has got some abiliy about him - which could be more suited for the Premiership. £5m - I'd love that but don't see us getting near it. Quite a few, but damn I wish there was an archive of my "KEN~!!!" posts, God, I never stopped going on about him after that Anderlecht game and pre-season at Bournemouth and he even finally realised he was quite good himself somewhere along the line. Therefore I am clearly awesome and we should cut McGoldrick up into small pieces and sell him to pig farmers. Lallana was possibly worth about £2m at the start of the season based on his potential and goal against West Brom in a stupid transfer market, and he's worth about a million at the moment in a credit crunch and in terrible form in a relegated team, but with an England U-21 cap under his belt and being on the fringes of the right kind of "mate network" to put a word in with someone in the Prem that comes with all of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 If, as a lot of people are suggesting, we go out of business in 8 days then surely all players would become free agents and we wouldn't even get 5p for him. Well yes, but as there wouldn't be a club to pay anyway, surely that's a minor concern ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 I think if he was on a free transfer it would be expensive. He has been an absolutely lightweight non productive player this year and should have been in the reserves from October to try and rebuild his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 This thread sums up attitudes to football in England. If Lallana was a player in Spain or Holland he would be lauded because he is a good footballer with technique. In England we look for big, strong, committed etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 problem with Lallana, and for saints, is what is his position? not a nippy poacher CF - as not natural scorer not target man - obvious not winger - not pacy enough nor seen good crossing not deeper midfielder/full back as not strong enough not central midfielder - not enough presence which leaves a creative "in the hole" role, which not all teams utilise and not sure he can put his stamp on a game enough for that. He does have obvious talent tho, natural control and two footed. Still young but feel needs to identify a role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 :smt023 absolutely spot-on. he is a young player, ffs! so we give him away for £50,000 like some people are saying. then he matures into a decent player and for the sake of one bad season and a knee-jerk reaction we have wasted both money and talent. a few on here called for the blame-game to stop. that is true. piling on all this pressure on a young saints player (or two) is ludicrous imho. i would say that you have all gone nuts, but you were all f*cking nuts to begin with. tossers. he really isn't that young by footballing standards.C Ronaldo is 24,Rooney is 23, Theo is 20, Aaron Lennon is 22.Torres is 25, they've all been cutting it at the highest possible level these last 3 years or more. I don't think Lallana really has much future in football at the highest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 Fine bunch of fans we are. There's speculation that someone wants to buy one of our players and half the posters on here use it as an opportunity to slag off the player in question (and to get a few digs in at other players as well). Whatever happened to supporting the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 problem with Lallana, and for saints, is what is his position? not a nippy poacher CF - as not natural scorer not target man - obvious not winger - not pacy enough nor seen good crossing not deeper midfielder/full back as not strong enough not central midfielder - not enough presence which leaves a creative "in the hole" role, which not all teams utilise and not sure he can put his stamp on a game enough for that. He does have obvious talent tho, natural control and two footed. Still young but feel needs to identify a role I agree with that. I also think he suffered a lot from niggling injuries which did not help his form throughout the winter months. Looked good on Saturday though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atticus Finch of Maycomb Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 he really isn't that young by footballing standards.C Ronaldo is 24,Rooney is 23, Theo is 20, Aaron Lennon is 22.Torres is 25, they've all been cutting it at the highest possible level these last 3 years or more. I don't think Lallana really has much future in football at the highest level. the lad is twenty years old. twenty! i hope that you didnt have your professional career written off at twenty. i also hope that you didnt have 10,000+ people judging you every week whilst doing your job and having idiots on a website like this one slagging you off what the hell are we doing for this guy's confidence? why dont we encourage him, instead of constantly shooting him down. Sure, he might not be ronaldo or torres, but then hardly anyone is! some players take longer to mature than others. sure, he might turn out to be a ryan ashford or a phil warner or whatever, but he might also turn out to be a chris baird or a james beattie. maybe. if adam does go for peanuts like everyone suggests, and he goes on to make a decent career, most of you still wont learn your ignorant lesson. It has happened plenty of times before: Scott McDonald Brian Howard Kevin Phillips (as a youth player) Luis Boa Morte Dexter Blackstock Garry Monk I am sure there are better examples than these. i am sure some people can name them. but you get my point. was is the point of slagging him off? really?? (this isnt just aimed at you window cleaner, btw) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 I think if he was on a free transfer it would be expensive. He has been an absolutely lightweight non productive player this year and should have been in the reserves from October to try and rebuild his game. I do agree with your sentiments on his productivity this year but he has ability. Yes, he hasn't shown himself to be a world-beater, and I personally am yet to be convinced of his physical capability either (I don't think many fans take into account the heart surgery he had). But, given the right environment at an upwardly-mobile club (i.e. anywhere but here! ), I genuinely believe he could make it as an England international. It hasn't helped playing in a struggling team IMO, in fact you could argue the same about Surman. When confidence is down it is hard to get things going again, and what with all the off-field rubbish it is stupid to think that it won't affect our younger players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_Uwe Posted 28 April, 2009 Share Posted 28 April, 2009 the lad is twenty years old. twenty! i hope that you didnt have your professional career written off at twenty. i also hope that you didnt have 10,000+ people judging you every week whilst doing your job and having idiots on a website like this one slagging you off what the hell are we doing for this guy's confidence? why dont we encourage him, instead of constantly shooting him down. Sure, he might not be ronaldo or torres, but then hardly anyone is! some players take longer to mature than others. sure, he might turn out to be a ryan ashford or a phil warner or whatever, but he might also turn out to be a chris baird or a james beattie. maybe. if adam does go for peanuts like everyone suggests, and he goes on to make a decent career, most of you still wont learn your ignorant lesson. It has happened plenty of times before: Scott McDonald Brian Howard Kevin Phillips (as a youth player) Luis Boa Morte Dexter Blackstock Garry Monk I am sure there are better examples than these. i am sure some people can name them. but you get my point. was is the point of slagging him off? really?? (this isnt just aimed at you window cleaner, btw) 100% agree. He isn't a clogger is he! But - he needs to work harder at his game and basically use his talent. There is no substitute for good technique in my opinion and he has that in abundance. What he has to do now is keep his chin up over the summer, knuckle down and prove people wrong. Only he can do that. Whether he does or not is another matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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