Thedelldays Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 saying that Pinnacle are struggling to get the money and that Swiss have proper money and have taken a shine to saints...they are not from a football background but have serious money and see us as a snip due to the set up etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Now, will Mr. Fry and the creditors accept what inevitably will be a lower offer than Pinnacle's? That could be our best chance in the long run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 At least, the media is talking about the real issue, not some face-saving red herring concocted to deflect criticsm. Please let the Swiss bid have legs and the administrator do everything he can to make it easier for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 saying that Pinnacle are struggling to get the money and that Swiss have proper money and have taken a shine to saints...they are not from a football background but have serious money and see us as a snip due to the set up etc... This is it....here come the Swiss in the nick of time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 They said that the Swiss bid was the highest, and that Pinnacle couldn't get the money together. They went on to say the Pinnacle bid was pretty much dead and that the club would be sold within the next 2 weeks probably to the Swiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Don't Fry this up please. Someone ask Mr Swiss to employ MLT on the board and us fans will back them to the promised land as I feel MLT will have the contacts to bring in a decent manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyR Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Lets just get the Swiss in if their interested Mr Fry, enough of this f*cking around. If you don't seal the deal I will ensure you get buggered by a massive titanium coated toblerone with extra sharp peaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 June, 2009 what is the obsession with MLT..i would be happy with the swiss bid now without MLT.. they dont need him on board to have the fans backing what so ever.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 what is the obsession with MLT..i would be happy with the swiss bid now without MLT.. they dont need him on board to have the fans backing what so ever.. No but it says they are not from a football background and are therefore going to need people who know the club/area/English leagues around them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 hey DD is it positive stuff or just perhaps etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 what is the obsession with MLT..i would be happy with the swiss bid now without MLT.. they dont need him on board to have the fans backing what so ever.. I think MLT would have a better chance in getting KK or shearer in than just a non football board but what do I know as they could have Sir Alex Ferguson lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 June, 2009 hey DD is it positive stuff or just perhaps etc? dunno just had some bloke on saying that pompey and their takeover is not straight forward as it seems and that no money is in place yet.. went to to say that pinnacle are really struggling to get money etc etc dont know who it was talking though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Any mention of who the Swiss are? Rich guy, consortium, company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Don't Fry this up please. Someone ask Mr Swiss to employ MLT on the board and us fans will back them to the promised land as I feel MLT will have the contacts to bring in a decent manager. Will he? MLT is probably about the third last person any corporation other than Pinnacle will bring in to do the job. There are probably at least 10-15 posters on this forum who could do a damn site better job and probably have better credentials.MLT for chairman was always the indication to the total fallacy of Pinnacle's bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 dunno just had some bloke on saying that pompey and their takeover is not straight forward as it seems and that no money is in place yet.. went to to say that pinnacle are really struggling to get money etc etc dont know who it was talking though..thanks for the review, you aint an Echo reporter are you...........only kidding (to both parties) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Any mention of who the Swiss are? Rich guy, consortium, company? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocker268 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I reckon the idea of MLT is a good one, probably not as chairman but as Director of football or a football advisor I think it would be a good move, his prospective targets such as KK show he has vision in this sort of role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I reckon the idea of MLT is a good one, probably not as chairman but as Director of football or a football advisor I think it would be a good move, his prospective targets such as KK show he has vision in this sort of role People are misunderstanding MLT's role with Pinnacle I feel. He will be chairman - in charge of football affairs. Tony Lynam and others will deal with the finances not MLT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I reckon the idea of MLT is a good one, probably not as chairman but as Director of football or a football advisor I think it would be a good move, his prospective targets such as KK show he has vision in this sort of role His seeming lack of personal due diligence would tend to counter indicate what you say.When you believe that your 'investor' is "obscenely rich" it's just as well to check it out before you throw yourself into the deep end like an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 June, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 June, 2009 People are misunderstanding MLT's role with Pinnacle I feel. He will be chairman - in charge of football affairs. Tony Lynam and others will deal with the finances not MLT. :axe::axe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 MLT had said previously he'll back whoever wins. So let's hope the Swiss can get him in some sort of role, then. Rather than put up with this tyre-kicking Pinnacle ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Will he? MLT is probably about the third last person any corporation other than Pinnacle will bring in to do the job. There are probably at least 10-15 posters on this forum who could do a damn site better job and probably have better credentials.MLT for chairman was always the indication to the total fallacy of Pinnacle's bid. Yes I tend to agree listening to MF on SKYSPORTS the other day when asked about MLT his response seemed rather niave to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 what is the obsession with MLT..i would be happy with the swiss bid now without MLT.. they dont need him on board to have the fans backing what so ever.. No offense DD but MLT is the only true hero saints fans have had in the last 20 years, some have come and gone but he stayed through everything. As far as im aware he has never stated he would like to return to the club in the normal capacity's of coach or manager, but then the chips come down and he steps up to the plate. he may have backed the wrong horse, none of us know the ins and out of the pinnacle deal( he may or may not also) but id defy any argument that he his not the best figurehead for SFC, the one unifying force that can galvanize nearly all of the fan base. If the pinnacle deal is as flawed as this forum and the echo have suggested, which is difficult to see with us being in administration( i.e MR Fry should know what hes doing) then the swiss or any other group were to come ridding in on a white horse saying 'heres the money but we know nothing about football' id have no problem with MLT coming out and saying 'I want to be chairman of SFC, no matter who it is' i for one will stand up and applaud :smt041 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I reckon the idea of MLT is a good one, probably not as chairman but as Director of football or a football advisor I think it would be a good move, his prospective targets such as KK show he has vision in this sort of role You mean interferring with team matters . We need a strong manager working without interference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 People are misunderstanding MLT's role with Pinnacle I feel. He will be chairman - in charge of football affairs. Tony Lynam and others will deal with the finances not MLT. At this stage of the game, which it is now appearing to be for Pinnacle, I'd suggest reigning in the enthusiasm for the damp squib and taking a more cautious look at what the Swiss people may have to offer? I have come to the conclusion that Pinnacle, for whatever reason, are not going to be able to do this deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 (edited) No but it says they are not from a football background and are therefore going to need people who know the club/area/English leagues around them. If they want to get acquainted with the set-up, talking to somebody like Salz would be useful and reassuring. Salz could really earn his due in this regard. On footballing matters, Le Tiss isnt a bad bet - at least, up until recently, he hasnt been involved in the politics of the club and so unlike many of the football people around Saints, comes with a fresh slate. Edited 27 June, 2009 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 No offense DD but MLT is the only true hero saints fans have had in the last 20 years, some have come and gone but he stayed through everything. As far as im aware he has never stated he would like to return to the club in the normal capacity's of coach or manager, but then the chips come down and he steps up to the plate. he may have backed the wrong horse, none of us know the ins and out of the pinnacle deal( he may or may not also) but id defy any argument that he his not the best figurehead for SFC, the one unifying force that can galvanize nearly all of the fan base. If the pinnacle deal is as flawed as this forum and the echo have suggested, which is difficult to see with us being in administration( i.e MR Fry should know what hes doing) then the swiss or any other group were to come ridding in on a white horse saying 'heres the money but we know nothing about football' id have no problem with MLT coming out and saying 'I want to be chairman of SFC, no matter who it is' i for one will stand up and applaud :smt041 Excellent post. MLT has done nothing wron other than lend support to a bid he thought was going to save Saints. Okay perhaps the Swiss shouldn't make him Chairman, but to not make him Club President or Chair of the Advisory Council or somesuch would be a mistake imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Any mention of who the Swiss are? Rich guy, consortium, company? The top man evidently lives in a semi in Geneva with his Mum. Is that going to be a problem? Wish people would stop digging, all it does is spread malicious unfounded gossip, and gets people thinking its all great or all about to ge tits up. If it happens then who cares who they are, we are close to extinction and still some people think its fun to try to knock anyone who shows an interest. Personally I feel that the Swiss bid is no more likely than Pinnacle to succeed, in fact probably less so, they will face all the same issues (if there are issues). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 No but it says they are not from a football background and are therefore going to need people who know the club/area/English leagues around them. They'll probably be contacting Rupert Lowe then...:smt093 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 No offense DD but MLT is the only true hero saints fans have had in the last 20 years, some have come and gone but he stayed through everything. As far as im aware he has never stated he would like to return to the club in the normal capacity's of coach or manager, but then the chips come down and he steps up to the plate. he may have backed the wrong horse, none of us know the ins and out of the pinnacle deal( he may or may not also) but id defy any argument that he his not the best figurehead for SFC, the one unifying force that can galvanize nearly all of the fan base. If the pinnacle deal is as flawed as this forum and the echo have suggested, which is difficult to see with us being in administration( i.e MR Fry should know what hes doing) then the swiss or any other group were to come ridding in on a white horse saying 'heres the money but we know nothing about football' id have no problem with MLT coming out and saying 'I want to be chairman of SFC, no matter who it is' i for one will stand up and applaud :smt041 +1 The greatest pity about the Pinnacle bid going tits up is we miss out on having a genuine football man and a genuine Saints hero in the boardroom. I'm sure he would have been backed up with an experienced CEO to do the admin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 The top man evidently lives in a semi in Geneva with his Mum. Is that going to be a problem? Wish people would stop digging, all it does is spread malicious unfounded gossip, and gets people thinking its all great or all about to ge tits up. If it happens then who cares who they are, we are close to extinction and still some people think its fun to try to knock anyone who shows an interest. Personally I feel that the Swiss bid is no more likely than Pinnacle to succeed, in fact probably less so, they will face all the same issues (if there are issues). Yes clearly repeating what was broadcast on national radio can only be described as intrusive digging and "spreading malicious unfounded gossip" - guaranteed to make all possible bidders run away and cry. Vectis - the Sage of Toytown strikes again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 But there are heavy suggestions that Pinnacle's real issue is that they don't have enough money to do the deal, and the FL thing is just a smokescreen to save face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexstar Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Atleast Fry has realised what the Swiss can bring to the table, rather than being led on by Tony and wasting a 'few more days'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordonToo Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Yes clearly repeating what was broadcast on national radio can only be described as intrusive digging and "spreading malicious unfounded gossip" - guaranteed to make all possible bidders run away and cry. Vectis - the Sage of Toytown strikes again. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Goodness some of the comments on here about MLT appear to be written by complete half-wits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 too many people taking the swiss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 what is the obsession with MLT..i would be happy with the swiss bid now without MLT.. they dont need him on board to have the fans backing what so ever.. I agree,MLT is a hero and always will be to me but his judgment in business may not be ideal for us to move forward,I would also hate for him to fail as there is a loony element who would be quick to chop his legs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Oh please lay off MLT. If it was proven that he was taken in then so be it, we have all made bad mistakes and his intentions were honourable and are the exact same as ours which is to see saints live another day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crouchi Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 I can't really see much sense in Matt having total charge of football matters, only a bit of romance and nostalgia associated with him as a player, but not enough demonstrable acumen to carry forward the lead role. I would rather have, for example, Mark Hughes, who I detested as a player and for his attitude to MLT when he was with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Will he? MLT is probably about the third last person any corporation other than Pinnacle will bring in to do the job. There are probably at least 10-15 posters on this forum who could do a damn site better job and probably have better credentials.MLT for chairman was always the indication to the total fallacy of Pinnacle's bid. Awwww geez, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints4Prem Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 LeTiss is IMHO the right one to be the figurehead/Chairman with any bid. He knows the club inside out, has it in his blood and has so many contacts to bring the right men in to take the club forward. If he was put up for manager I could see a problem but to organise the revival of our great club I cannot think of anyone better COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 saying that Pinnacle are struggling to get the money and that Swiss have proper money and have taken a shine to saints...they are not from a football background but have serious money and see us as a snip due to the set up etc... Where has the money gone then ...???? It must have been there to satisfy Fry ???? ...... wasn't it ????? ...... Fry really does seem to have a lot to answer for IMHO ..... well worth £10K a day ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Love how, despite no facts at all, not even one thing known about the Swiss, people have assumed they are able to fund this deal with no problems at all. Love how everyone was saying the exact same thing about Pinnacle a few weeks ago. Love how retarded the majority of people on here are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Matty's a hero and we all love him but... 1. Useless in business 2. No management experience Our next manager should be handed a budget and told to get on with it, with absolutely no interference from anyone. We don't need another executive in charge of football stuff, thats the managers role. Matty is still a legend and the greatest player we ever had. Great race horses don't make good jockeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Love how, despite no facts at all, not even one thing known about the Swiss, people have assumed they are able to fund this deal with no problems at all. Love how everyone was saying the exact same thing about Pinnacle a few weeks ago. Love how retarded the majority of people on here are. Maybe because the Swiss are actually doing things professionally, and in that i mean aren't talking to ITK'ers on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 They'll probably be contacting Rupert Lowe then...:smt093 Oh joy !!!!!:grin::grin::smt093 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Where has the money gone then ...???? It must have been there to satisfy Fry ???? ...... wasn't it ????? ...... Fry really does seem to have a lot to answer for IMHO ..... well worth £10K a day ...... Fry confirmed to Gary Cotterill (SSN) on 'takeover day' (ROFL) that everything, including funds, were in place ready to go and that the last minute hitch with the FL, which they were hopeful of ironing out later that day, was the only thing holding up the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Any mention of who the Swiss are? Rich guy, consortium, company? Mr & Mrs Robinson, High St, Geneva .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Engine Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 Matty's a hero and we all love him but... 1. Useless in business 2. No management experience Our next manager should be handed a budget and told to get on with it, with absolutely no interference from anyone. We don't need another executive in charge of football stuff, thats the managers role. Matty is still a legend and the greatest player we ever had. Great race horses don't make good jockeys. Agree 100% MLT should go back to his day job as a full-time legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 27 June, 2009 Share Posted 27 June, 2009 OK, serious Question Does anyone really think that the Swiss will Alp us out .... ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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