IamLeGod Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 As it reads really, what would you prefer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Same thing aint it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Liquidation. If Lowe came back, the team would be full of 16 year olds, the ground would be more than half empty and we would go into liquidation anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Hm, let me see, football team with Woopert in charge or no football team at all? Rupert every time, thanks. Althought he's near the bottom of a very long list of people I'd want to save Saints, I'm not interested in the politics, I'm interested in the football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Lowe - whatever his obvious flaws - having a bit of a knob in charge of the club is better than no club by a mile... He had many flaws and these are obvious, but contrary to the popular urban myth, he did actually look to keep the finances in order, which was sadly aslo a contributor to the prem relegation, his refusal to take a punt or risk further borrowings as so many other clubs do - investment taht was needed just to stand still in the prem, let alone progress, because we diod not have the money... he made a pigs arse (apologies for the mixed metaphor) out of the manager policy on his return, but teh financial problems were already clear and impossible to navigate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 The club would cease to exist as far as I was concerned if that c**t every returned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 How odd, I just searched for an bumped my old thread on this exact same subject! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Liquidation and start again in the Bluq Square. It's only where we'd end up under Lowe anyway. The difference is, under Lowe it would just take another few years of signing players like Holmes and Schneiderlin and telling everyone they're the next Robben, Torres etc. Then appoint a complete nobody from the Lithuanian second division and claim it is a revolutionary new coaching set up who will provide Brazil style total football. To top it all off, he will blame the fans for our subsequent relegations because only 4,000 people turn up to home games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamLeGod Posted 1 July, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 July, 2009 How odd, I just searched for an bumped my old thread on this exact same subject! alright sorry mate, just thought it seemed appropriate in this 11th hour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 silly question. Anyone who says they would prefer no club doesn't support saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 How odd, I just searched for an bumped my old thread on this exact same subject! Yeah, and then I moaned at you for being repetitive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pancake Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 alright sorry mate, just thought it seemed appropriate in this 11th hour My bad, I posted "later" as it where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Lowe is the root of all our problems and therefore he would put blooooody train pictures every where at St Marys....Downward spiral but more rapidly....So in effect the two mean the same..Lowe=Liquidation sooner or later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Liquidation. If Lowe came back, the team would be full of 16 year olds, the ground would be more than half empty and we would go into liquidation anyway. Like it will be any different under the new owners largely thanks IMO to MLT and all those who supported Pinnacle. Lowe sealing DMG's services on a 3 year contract seems to have done more to save the short term future of this club than any Saints personalilites and donations to date so perhaps he could come for a 3rd spell and this time the fans actually support him in his difficult but necessary decisions. That said if I was Lowe I would give one brief hand gesture to the idiotic minority and move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Liquidation and start again in the Bluq Square. It's only where we'd end up under Lowe anyway. The difference is, under Lowe it would just take another few years of signing players like Holmes and Schneiderlin and telling everyone they're the next Robben, Torres etc. Then appoint a complete nobody from the Lithuanian second division and claim it is a revolutionary new coaching set up who will provide Brazil style total football. To top it all off, he will blame the fans for our subsequent relegations because only 4,000 people turn up to home games. Spot on. Lowe = liquidation anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Like it will be any different under the new owners largely thanks IMO to MLT and all those who supported Pinnacle. Lowe sealing DMG's services on a 3 year contract seems to have done more to save the short term future of this club than any Saints personalilites and donations to date so perhaps he could come for a 3rd spell and this time the fans actually support him in his difficult but necessary decisions. That said if I was Lowe I would give one brief hand gesture to the idiotic minority and move on. What you fail to see in front of your eyes about Mighty Mac and his 3/4 year contract...Money now ..sure....But by playing him in every game instead of the usual gradual integration into an experienced side..together with a few more of the very inexperienced youngsters and failed loans resulted in where we are today..Thanks Rupert and you Dutch boyzz. As GM says maybe Lowey and his boyzz are American after all...Are you from the good old USA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 silly question. Anyone who says they would prefer no club doesn't support saints. I can't be a supporter then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Lowe brought us into administration. Anymore of him would finish us off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 That said if I was Lowe I would give one brief hand gesture to the idiotic minority and move on. Don't you see? Lowe is the idiotic minority himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 there is no or. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Liquidation and start again in the Bluq Square. It's only where we'd end up under Lowe anyway. The difference is, under Lowe it would just take another few years of signing players like Holmes and Schneiderlin and telling everyone they're the next Robben, Torres etc. Then appoint a complete nobody from the Lithuanian second division and claim it is a revolutionary new coaching set up who will provide Brazil style total football. To top it all off, he will blame the fans for our subsequent relegations because only 4,000 people turn up to home games. And then produce an anonymous letter at the AGM telling him what a splendid job he is doing and that he should ignore the naysayers who are the paying customers, as they are utter morons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyes k8 Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Probably like me you're all thinking this is a re-run of the russians inviting Ivan the Terrible to return. I don't know if any of you have got a view as to how sucessful Ivan's restoration was and if there are any lessons to be drawn from this as to the advisability of inviting Prince Rupert back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wopper Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Who wants Saints run by a loony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 I can't be a supporter then. guess not! get off the forum;) if you would rather no club, and am being honest then you wouldn't be. Don't think you, or anyone else of here really thinks that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Probably like me you're all thinking this is a re-run of the russians inviting Ivan the Terrible to return. I don't know if any of you have got a view as to how sucessful Ivan's restoration was and if there are any lessons to be drawn from this as to the advisability of inviting Prince Rupert back? No, not really. Did his team win the league on his return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 guess not! get off the forum;) if you would rather no club, and am being honest then you wouldn't be. Don't think you, or anyone else of here really thinks that. Sorry Nick, I really do think that. If he came back I would have zero interest in the football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Who wants Saints run by a loony. Quite a few but those two asylums have just withdrawn their support. Bottom line anyone advocating liquidation over any loony willing to take us on is not a fan who regularly attends games and therefore will not mourn the club's passing as much as others. IMO you have to be a border line lunatic to even consider taking on the chairman role that once the euphoria of saviour has died down you will be lambasted within the first bad run of results probably 2 draws and a defeat. Before long our forgiving fringe and famous faces will be parading paintings with a noose hanging above your head. Oh how we laughed...... Welcome to SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Liquidation and start again in the Bluq Square. It's only where we'd end up under Lowe anyway. The difference is, under Lowe it would just take another few years of signing players like Holmes and Schneiderlin and telling everyone they're the next Robben, Torres etc. Then appoint a complete nobody from the Lithuanian second division and claim it is a revolutionary new coaching set up who will provide Brazil style total football. To top it all off, he will blame the fans for our subsequent relegations because only 4,000 people turn up to home games. Your avatar looks stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Sorry Nick, I really do think that. If he came back I would have zero interest in the football club. Correction - you have zero interest in the football club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 As to the opening question.... ZZZZzzzzzzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Sorry Nick, I really do think that. If he came back I would have zero interest in the football club. I would be mighty ****ed off but would still want them not to lose to skates and would love a day out at Wembley one say. Not saying any of that likely with him - but shows they would still be the team I support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Quite a few but those two asylums have just withdrawn their support. Bottom line anyone advocating liquidation over any loony willing to take us on is not a fan who regularly attends games and therefore will not mourn the club's passing as much as others. IMO you have to be a border line lunatic to even consider taking on the chairman role that once the euphoria of saviour has died down you will be lambasted within the first bad run of results probably 2 draws and a defeat. Before long our forgiving fringe and famous faces will be parading paintings with a noose hanging above your head. Oh how we laughed...... Welcome to SFC. I don't agree. The view taken by most will be that allowances will be made for the fact that whoever does take us over has rescued us from oblivion and would be given extra lattitude as a result. On the other hand, it is entirely reasonable that many would take the view that they would not attend further, should the person who was most responsible for taking us to the edge of the precipice return to run the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Same thing aint it? What the man said. We are here because of Lowe, especially the bizarre decision to call in administrators 6 days after the time limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Oh come on all you drama queens. How can anyone say they would prefer to have no team to support next season over a team in league one owned by Lowe. Talk about cut your nose off to spite your face. I agree with NickG anyone who prefers the club to fold clearly doesnt feel the same feelings of pain I would feel if 35 years of supporting saints came to an abrupt end. It would be like a good friend dying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 As it reads really, what would you prefer? Liquidation ...... Lowe back ???? Are you serious ??????????? For starters, I was not aware that Lowe had enough money to buy us ????? Some people just never learn ........ Has Lowe paid you to ask the question .... or are you doing it for love ??????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 I don't agree. The view taken by most will be that allowances will be made for the fact that whoever does take us over has rescued us from oblivion and would be given extra lattitude as a result. On the other hand, it is entirely reasonable that many would take the view that they would not attend further, should the person who was most responsible for taking us to the edge of the precipice return to run the club. Wes, one day you will wake up from your land of make believe and accept the terminal decline started the day Crocuh decided to back Wilde. Last season was pretty much mission impossible because of the already perilious state of the finances and without the misguided fans who deserted the club in their hour of need the miracle was that Lowe still nearly pulled off the impossible. You will never get that as a supporter of the boycotts. Of course what has happened now is that the adminsitration supporters have taken us over the precipice and in freefall are desperately trying to suspend time before our collective heads smash against the rocks below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Liquidation ...... Lowe back ???? Are you serious ??????????? For starters, I was not aware that Lowe had enough money to buy us ????? Some people just never learn ........ Has Lowe paid you to ask the question .... or are you doing it for love ??????? Perhaps the Swiss want a professional at the helm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 What the man said. We are here because of Lowe, especially the bizarre decision to call in administrators 6 days after the time limit. Without wanting to satrt another barny on this, the choice was not Lowe's the moment those cheques bounced-he then had the legal obligation to call them in as we were in effect trading whilst insolvent - I think the plan was to get by until the seasons end when player sales and ST sales would have get things going.... in effect you could argue we wer fecked by the transfer window! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 What the man said. We are here because of Lowe, especially the bizarre decision to call in administrators 6 days after the time limit. A decision as bizarre as the fans returning for the Charlton game and having second thoughts for the Burnley game still unable to pack the ground in the hour of need. Game not big enough perhaps? Perhaps Lowe's decison was based more on 'whats the point'? The capacity for apathy and whinging amongst our fanbase has always astounded me with a desire at times as languid as the persona of at least one of our legends IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Lowe or liquidation? Won't come to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Lowe without a doubt. DOnt know what id do if we had no club to support Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 What the man said. We are here because of Lowe, especially the bizarre decision to call in administrators 6 days after the time limit.Alps if you cannot see that there is something odd about that and no way RL would have done so intentionally then you are not thinking too hard. 1 thing we all agree with is RL loved his money. He would know as soon as he put us into admin he'd lose a lot of it if not all. Therefore he would have done anything to stave it off and that would have included selling any player during the jan window. Barclays had their man in on board meetings (a avid saints fan) he would know that the timing of admin would cost us -10 last or the following season and the implications of that. I know that if i was in his position I would have warned the club that the support was likely to be withdrawn and so go into admin the day before not a few days after. I dont wish to be drawn down the routes of long RL debates, he is past not future, but fundamentally he was as surprised as all of us when Barclays pulled the plug. i suggest you read between the lines of Dubai Phils post today and you may get a feel for what MAY have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 How about liquidate Lowe, and then find someone capable, even if we are in the BSq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 I just want my club to survive. If that means Lowe, then so be it. That said, I really doubt we'll see Rupert back again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Wes, one day you will wake up from your land of make believe and accept the terminal decline started the day Crocuh decided to back Wilde. Last season was pretty much mission impossible because of the already perilious state of the finances and without the misguided fans who deserted the club in their hour of need the miracle was that Lowe still nearly pulled off the impossible. You will never get that as a supporter of the boycotts. Of course what has happened now is that the adminsitration supporters have taken us over the precipice and in freefall are desperately trying to suspend time before our collective heads smash against the rocks below. I have made it abundantly clear from many past posts, that I consider that our decline as a football club commenced from the date of the reverse takeover. As my appreciation of when the decline commenced predates yours by several years, how can you possibly say that it is me who needs to wake up from my land of make belief? If anything, it is you who has been living in cloud cuckoo land if you seriously believe that our decline only started with Crouch's siding with Wilde. As for your assessment of last season being mission impossible, yes, of course it was. Farming out our three main strikers, dismissing a competant manager and employing a couple of foreign managers with nil experience of this division, let alone football in England to replace him, playing the youth team in a formation that they were not comfortable with, of course it was mission impossible. Lowe failed to achieve our survival in this division, whereas it is entirely possible that somebody else like Pearson as manager might well have succeeded by taking a more sensible route, but that is as much conjecture as your assertions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 I have made it abundantly clear from many past posts, that I consider that our decline as a football club commenced from the date of the reverse takeover. As my appreciation of when the decline commenced predates yours by several years, how can you possibly say that it is me who needs to wake up from my land of make belief? If anything, it is you who has been living in cloud cuckoo land if you seriously believe that our decline only started with Crouch's siding with Wilde. As for your assessment of last season being mission impossible, yes, of course it was. Farming out our three main strikers, dismissing a competant manager and employing a couple of foreign managers with nil experience of this division, let alone football in England to replace him, playing the youth team in a formation that they were not comfortable with, of course it was mission impossible. Lowe failed to achieve our survival in this division, whereas it is entirely possible that somebody else like Pearson as manager might well have succeeded by taking a more sensible route, but that is as much conjecture as your assertions. Quite, at least we still have something to talk about after the club's passing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Without wanting to satrt another barny on this' date=' the choice was not Lowe's the moment those cheques bounced-he then had the legal obligation to call them in as we were in effect trading whilst insolvent - I think the plan was to get by until the seasons end when player sales and ST sales would have get things going.... in effect you could argue we wer fecked by the transfer window![/quote'] But why were the season ticket sales delayed? Nothing in March at all and when I queried at the Ticket Office I was told 'perhaps early April'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 At the moment I'd take Lowe as chairman with Branfoot as director of football and Wrigley as head coach. Anyone who would rather Saints ceased to be can frankly bugger off to PompeyMad where you belong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 Quite, at least we still have something to talk about after the club's passing. But I don't think that the club will go out of existence. I look forward to yesterday being the low point in our existence and that by the end of the week most of us can look towards the future in hope and expectation that we can begin our climb back to where we were 4/5 years ago. The sooner that we can bury the past, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 1 July, 2009 Share Posted 1 July, 2009 F uc k me..............round and round and round she go's, where she stops etc etc..... We had Stewpert relegate us from the PL........'we want Stewpert out' was the general cry.........and he was gone. Replaced by the biggest disaster in the clubs history MW. 2 years down the line.....the girlie gang all called for a saviour...up steps Stewpert, and hankies are waved, hearts torn..............then guess what.....yep!! we get relegated, not only that, we are Royally Ferked...so what do the girlie gang do 'Stewpert oh Stewpert....where for art thou'.........some would say, that this club has the fans it deserves............as evidenced by the hate posts delivered to TL over the last week or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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