NickG Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Think we now have coaching staff of 4 -all 4 managed in football league in their own right! Is that enough "English managers with knowledge of this league" for us I wonder? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Is that enough "English managers with knowledge of this league" for us I wonder? Steve Coppell on his way next I reckon as Sporting Director/director of Football role. Which will be great as long as Alan Pardew is happy with it and the two don't have roles that overlap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 It's as good a setup as we've had for a long time. That's why im so pleased we made a clean slate from last season, although they gave their all for us in the end - Killer / Wotte and Gore do not compete with the likes of Pards / Wilkins / Downes/ Murdoch for their knowledge of this level. Much better, a win should be coming our way soon - followed by a stretch of them once these guys make their mark. If people like Wally Downes cannot get these players responding and performing then we're a lost cause to be frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Would'nt hurt to have some form of continental coach onboard also...Dutch,for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Think it will do nicely ! I don't think the importance of this should be overlooked, with the losing mentality which is all but ingrained I think the coaches will play a very important role in hopefully restoring the player's belief which is a crucial ingredient still missing IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 too many chiefs and not enough indians. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 too many chiefs and not enough indians. What the hell does that mean ? :smt102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Think we now have coaching staff of 4 -all 4 managed in football league in their own right! Is that enough "English managers with knowledge of this league" for us I wonder? sooner or later..we will have to win a game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Steve Coppell on his way next I reckon as Sporting Director/director of Football role. Which will be great as long as Alan Pardew is happy with it and the two don't have roles that overlap. As I said on the other thread that would be awesome!! Hopefully Henderson will be on his way now and we can start preparing the younger players and reserves with the right "tools" for when they are called up for the first team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 What the hell does that mean ? :smt102 i was kinda joking, look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Would'nt hurt to have some form of continental coach onboard also...Dutch,for example. Why stop at one? Perhaps a Dutch duo is the way forward, instilling their take on the modern new football phenomenon that is 'total football' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisobee Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 i was kinda joking, look it up. I obviously know what it means in general terms, just did not see the relevance to this TBH The joke kinda just passed me by! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 sooner or later..we will have to win a game... You convinced me last week it was going to be sooner but now it is going to be later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 I obviously know what it means in general terms, just did not see the relevance to this TBH The joke kinda just passed me by! It's why im not a comedian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Steve Coppell on his way next I reckon as Sporting Director/director of Football role. Which will be great as long as Alan Pardew is happy with it and the two don't have roles that overlap. Unless this guy has come in instead of a DOF, leaving Pardew less hands on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 You convinced me last week it was going to be sooner but now it is going to be later im with you....after the brentford game I was not too sure...after the Stockport game I was concerned..after saturdays results I am very worried..yet that is seen as negative...I think I am the realist not negative.. not many teams in this league get anything remotely close to what have done in the last few weeks...yet they can win a game with some god awful players.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 (edited) im with you....after the brentford game I was not too sure...after the Stockport game I was concerned..after saturdays results I am very worried..yet that is seen as negative...I think I am the realist not negative.. not many teams in this league get anything remotely close to what have done in the last few weeks...yet they can win a game with some god awful players.. I know I cannot believe it . I have only seen one game this season against Birmingham and we were quite good and before the Murty injury I thought we going go to win Edited 7 September, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Would'nt hurt to have some form of continental coach onboard also...Dutch,for example. lol. Lets bring in a hockey playing toff with expertise in retirement homes too while we're at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 7 September, 2009 Author Share Posted 7 September, 2009 sooner or later..we will have to win a game... I give you my personal guarantee that we will, don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Will Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 I think I am the realist not negative Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 We now have one coach for every point - whoop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 lol. Lets bring in a hockey playing toff with expertise in retirement homes too while we're at it. OK, stop it right there, this thread is just getting silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 We now have one coach for every point - whoop! Only another 82 coaches required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clifford Nelson Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 It's as good a setup as we've had for a long time. That's why im so pleased we made a clean slate from last season, although they gave their all for us in the end - Killer / Wotte and Gore do not compete with the likes of Pards / Wilkins / Downes/ Murdoch for their knowledge of this level. Much better, a win should be coming our way soon - followed by a stretch of them once these guys make their mark. If people like Wally Downes cannot get these players responding and performing then we're a lost cause to be frank. With some shame I admit that I was championing Wotte who I thought under the circumstances had done as well as could be expected. I had no idea that we were int the running for this kind of set up in League One. This is just no comparison! Since AP and his crew appears to have sorted or defensive frailties he now has to concerntrate on the offensive shortcomings. Wally D seems to be the man to keep the defense together and obliterate the psychological weaknesses. By october/november we should be a power in this division. Late according to some, but it will bring our spirits back and more than ready for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madruss Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 With some shame I admit that I was championing Wotte who I thought under the circumstances had done as well as could be expected. I had no idea that we were int the running for this kind of set up in League One. This is just no comparison! Since AP and his crew appears to have sorted or defensive frailties he now has to concerntrate on the offensive shortcomings. Wally D seems to be the man to keep the defense together and obliterate the psychological weaknesses. By october/november we should be a power in this division. Late according to some, but it will bring our spirits back and more than ready for next season. i know it's a cliche, but every great team is built on a solid defence. Make no mistake, our defending last year was abominable. A team would get a corner or Free-kick against us and they may as well have been awarded a penalty, such was our susceptibility at set-plays. We started the season with signs of the same frailties (See Swindon & Huddersfield away) every game since then we've improved in those areas and now have a very solid base that will be invaluable once the goals start flowing. That's one of the key reasons to remain positive IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Some might call it a log-jam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 I don't think we'll start winning until every player has his own personal trainer and life coach... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 lol. Lets bring in a hockey playing toff with expertise in retirement homes too while we're at it. Lets not forget an egg chaser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 I wish them all the best but it will be more than a tad ironic if they fare worse than the Dutch duo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 Lets not forget an egg chaser. Yep, because we really do not need any advice from someone who has won a major competition and knows a thing or two about sports psychology. Nope, lets carry on the way we are and who knows, we might even end up as a Sunday park team if we carry on in our current vein of success! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 September, 2009 Share Posted 7 September, 2009 It is good to know that we have people who know about football running the club now, hopefully it wont take too long to put right the damage inflicted by Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Think we now have coaching staff of 4 -all 4 managed in football league in their own right! Is that enough "English managers with knowledge of this league" for us I wonder? I think it might be added " with some degree of SUCCESS " in managing at this level. Pure knowledge doesn't automatically give you the right answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 We now have one coach for every point - whoop! if we apply the same logic, Glasgow, when we eventually get our first win , .....we'll hire THREE more ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 I think that we are missing the team spirit we had when they took part in character building activities like clay pigeon shooting, which also indirectly taught co-ordination and good anticipation. I wonder whether we have anybody with contacts in the farming community who might be able to recommend somebody able to arrange events like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sevvy Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 lol. Lets bring in a hockey playing toff with expertise in retirement homes too while we're at it. There's nothing wrong with Hockey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 There's nothing wrong with Hockey ..don't forget the duck-shooting ! I think the best answer though, is a couple of sessions with MLT teaching then how to side-foot a shot, or chip the goalie, and how to take a penalty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Yep, because we really do not need any advice from someone who has won a major competition and knows a thing or two about sports psychology. Nope, lets carry on the way we are and who knows, we might even end up as a Sunday park team if we carry on in our current vein of success! In my opinion it was the appointment of Woodward that set us even more firmly on a path that almost saw the obliteration of the club. That appointment, along with that of the utter nonentity Clifford set in motion the deplorable plummet towards extinction, from which we were rescued at the 11th hour. If he'd been the Emperor's tailor, none of us wouldn't have been able to see the suit he'd made, and you'd still be telling us that he won an award once for making women's underwear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 Woodward COULD have worked if he was just an advisor....that had nothing to do with the first team...maybe he could have just out across ideas for facilities, team building exercises, sport science etc that could have benefited the team...but that would be it.. but no, he had to be Director of Football and tell everyone he had aspirations to be a manager....nice one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 It's why im not a comedian. Not sure about that. You two are cracking me up. :smt046 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 8 September, 2009 Share Posted 8 September, 2009 You convinced me last week it was going to be sooner but now it is going to be later Or maybe never? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 I think it might be added " with some degree of SUCCESS " in managing at this level. Pure knowledge doesn't automatically give you the right answers. What do they all do Who picks the team? Who chooses the tactics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 Woodward COULD have worked if he was just an advisor....that had nothing to do with the first team...maybe he could have just out across ideas for facilities, team building exercises, sport science etc that could have benefited the team...but that would be it.. but no, he had to be Director of Football and tell everyone he had aspirations to be a manager....nice one And I think this episode shows how bad RL could truly mess things up. I would say there were a fair few who bought into the idea of how SCW's non-football training methods could improve the non-footballing skills of the team like he did with the rugby team but the duo of Clifford* and Woodward ended up as an expensive joke. *The bizarre appointment of Clifford ranks as high as the Ali Dia saga IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 too many chiefs and not enough indians. That is VERY good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 (edited) Woodward COULD have worked if he was just an advisor....that had nothing to do with the first team...maybe he could have just out across ideas for facilities, team building exercises, sport science etc that could have benefited the team...but that would be it.. but no, he had to be Director of Football and tell everyone he had aspirations to be a manager....nice one I think he was Technical Director but probably knew more about football than most posters on here and if appointed by Cortose would be probably accepted by most fans. Edited 9 September, 2009 by John B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 9 September, 2009 Share Posted 9 September, 2009 There's nothing wrong with Hockey You mean Trevor Hockey, aka 'the werewolf' ? Now there was a player. Saw him playing for Norwich once many years ago when I was at uni there. Sent off in the first few minutes. As to this thread, the set up at Saints now seems excellent, the squad pretty strong (and will be better when Holmes and McLaggon are in it) and if I hadn't seen most of the games with own eyes I'd assume we'd have won 3 or 4 by now. How we've gone 6 league games without a win with this team in this league is beyond understanding. K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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