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anybody could see they had talent last season - they just lacked the environment for it to shine in

 

having senior players like Connolly and Jaidi around them, as players in the prime like Harding, Hammond and Lambert in the team makes a real difference to the younger players

 

both Morgan and Adam will make it to the top of the game if given the time and ther right environment to develop properly (outside of injury or anything like that)

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When pard's first came here, he said - ''Morgan has probably got more ability than anyone else in this league, but he needs to impose himself and get to grips with the style of football''

 

....well, he's done it. A real gritty midfield display from him today, winning tackles, winning headers and generally in the thick of it. The beauty is that when he's in space, he often plays a perfect pass.

 

We're lucky to have him and at last we have a manger who appreciates him and understands how to use him! (same can be said of lallana)

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First-class from Schneiderlin tonight. Hate to say I told you so, but I've always said the kid has talent, he's just struggled to impose himself in a number of matches and that's understandable considering he's a young lad who has come from abroad.

 

However, Pardew and his management team seem to have got the best out of him and long may it continue. The only concern is whether or not he can produce on a regular basis, but full credit to him for tonight's performance. He was head and shoulders above anyone else on the pitch and a worthy MOTM in my opinion.

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He was brilliant today, really improved on last season where he was pretty poor.

 

Made some tackles today that he would never have even gone for last season. He's passing was as good as ever, he's lobbed ball to Lambert in the first half was exquisite, just a shame that Lambert was offside as he controlled it perfectly first time.

 

The midfield where all top notch today, couldn't ask for more from any of them really. James looked decent in the holding role, his range of passing is huge compared to Wotton. Just a shame he's not as physical as Wotton off the ball.

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He was brilliant today, really improved on last season where he was pretty poor.

 

Made some tackles today that he would never have even gone for last season. He's passing was as good as ever, he's lobbed ball to Lambert in the first half was exquisite, just a shame that Lambert was offside as he controlled it perfectly first time.

 

The midfield where all top notch today, couldn't ask for more from any of them really. James looked decent in the holding role, his range of passing is huge compared to Wotton. Just a shame he's not as physical as Wotton off the ball.

 

James is trying to be physical though, you saw that by some of the slides he put in and the 50/50's he's learning from Hammond + Wotton, same with Morgan, you can tell he's been working on his ballwinning a lot and fair play to him, LJ and Morgan both showed well tonight.

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He was brilliant today, really improved on last season where he was pretty poor.

 

Made some tackles today that he would never have even gone for last season. He's passing was as good as ever, he's lobbed ball to Lambert in the first half was exquisite, just a shame that Lambert was offside as he controlled it perfectly first time.

 

The midfield where all top notch today, couldn't ask for more from any of them really. James looked decent in the holding role, his range of passing is huge compared to Wotton. Just a shame he's not as physical as Wotton off the ball.

 

No james was shocking tonight as he is every game. Why do you like him? He hasnt got any pace isnt skillful, positional sense is dreadful. He can cross occasionally, but I want him out of the team. He is rubbish.

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Glad to see that a player I believe to often be an unsung hero when he's on his game being appreciated.

 

If he can add just two things to his game

 

GOALS and CONSISTENCY

 

He'd be a player that could stay with us right up to Premiership level.

 

No question about his Prem potential. I think he's one of those players who'll get better and better against higher class oppo.

 

Certainly needs to add goals to his portfolio though. Has he scored for us yet?

 

Bit worried about someone like Strachan chucking in cheeky bids for Morgan and Adam in January. Think Pards and Marcus would both say no, but it does have an unsettling effect. And I suspect we need to sneak up this year to keep them both in the summer. Ten wins on the trot would do nicely for starters...!

 

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Have to agree Spiderman was fab his 1st touch vision & passing even under pressure was quality he & Lallana are our most talented players they were taking Wycombe on on there own for parts of the 1st half.

 

I love the way spiderman plays with his head up looking to switch the play from 1 flank to the other he is very comfortable on the ball.

 

I hope we can hang onto both of them in Jan there will be clubs sniffing round them but they are better of staying & playing.

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Glad to see that a player I believe to often be an unsung hero when he's on his game being appreciated.

 

If he can add just two things to his game

 

GOALS and CONSISTENCY

 

He'd be a player that could stay with us right up to Premiership level.

 

Agree about goals and consistency.He seems to lose all composure when in front of goal, ie Bristol Rovers and Oldham.

 

Sadly I suspect he will be in the Premiership a couple of seasons before us.I don't expect he will want to play at this level next season.

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Remember when he joined us,he was lauded as a "dead ball specialist" ? Although his passing can be outstanding at times,I have seen little evidence of freekicks etc to back up the original claim.

 

Then again that did come from the Lowe era (Part II) and a campaign of misinformation which likened Holmes to Dutch superstars etc.

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Agree about goals and consistency.He seems to lose all composure when in front of goal, ie Bristol Rovers and Oldham.

 

Sadly I suspect he will be in the Premiership a couple of seasons before us.I don't expect he will want to play at this level next season.

 

Strange isn't it? In the Millwall game he was trying his luck from miles out. Maybe he just needs to get that first goal.

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Yeah agreed, the boy has really blossomed and has brought extra dimensions to his game, or has just been given the needed lift from AP.

 

As for james, i like him, he delivers a good cross, can pass a ball and is not bad in the tackle, ok, he is not particularly quick but it p*sses me off people getting on his back.

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Cracking player now, he really is starting to remind me of Xabi Alonso. Shame I can't get to as many games as I like.

 

Perhaps he was a parting gift from Mr Lowe...

I was very impressed by him last night, and it takes a lot to impress me. He was hardly a gift though, didn't we pay £1m for him?

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No james was shocking tonight as he is every game. Why do you like him? He hasnt got any pace isnt skillful, positional sense is dreadful. He can cross occasionally, but I want him out of the team. He is rubbish.

 

Maybe you should spend a little bit of time actually watching Lloyd James play football, didn't really do much wrong yesterday. Doesn't have the same physical presence as Wotton but he's better with nearly every other aspect of his game.

 

There's also no way we could switch so fluidly between 4-5-1 and 4-4-2 with Wotton in place of James. He should really have got an assist almost as soon as he switched to the right, how Waigo missed from a yard out is beyond me the ball in from James was perfect.

 

He seemed to know when to go long and when to play an easy ball short, would much rather have him in holding midfield than Wotton. Wether James is the long term solution who knows, on yesterdays viewing I don't see why he shouldn't keep his place for the Walsall game on Saturday.

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As for james, i like him, he delivers a good cross, can pass a ball and is not bad in the tackle, ok, he is not particularly quick but it p*sses me off people getting on his back.

 

He's just the new scapegoat for alot of our fans. Some people at St Marys feel the need to be moaning about someone even when we're winning and playing good stuff.

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The sharpness of thought and touch of lallana-schneiderlin-mellis together would be amazing. From what I've seen they are all on the same wavelength. James had a decent if unspectacular and untroubled game yesterday. But there's no way he is as good as Mellis, even in terms of closing down. Drop James, start Mellis, play Hammond in the holding role and have faith that schneider will do his fair share of dirty work as he is now proving - and the rest will follow.

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The sharpness of thought and touch of lallana-schneiderlin-mellis together would be amazing. From what I've seen they are all on the same wavelength. James had a decent if unspectacular and untroubled game yesterday. But there's no way he is as good as Mellis, even in terms of closing down. Drop James, start Mellis, play Hammond in the holding role and have faith that schneider will do his fair share of dirty work as he is now proving - and the rest will follow.

 

Opposition goals?

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Opposition goals?

 

Boom boom - telegraphed that one didn't I. No reason why that three can't hold its own against any midfield while carrying lots of attacking threat. Hammond with his grit to get stuck in; Mellis with his energy and stamina to close down and hustle and Schneiderlin to hopefully continue what he's been doing. Don't see how James/Wotton would necessarily improve things defensively with Hammond playing slightly deeper.

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Hammond is the only one of our central midfielders who can score a goal, we'd lose alot of our attacking threat playing him deeper in the holding role. He's been one of our best players recently.

 

Nothing against Mellis but we shouldn't be shifting our best central midfielder around to stuck him in.

 

Ideally Pardew will bring in an experienced holding midfielder to play behind Hammond/Schneiderling and James can be used as a bit of a utility player and given some time to develop.

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Maybe you should spend a little bit of time actually watching Lloyd James play football, didn't really do much wrong yesterday. Doesn't have the same physical presence as Wotton but he's better with nearly every other aspect of his game.

 

There's also no way we could switch so fluidly between 4-5-1 and 4-4-2 with Wotton in place of James. He should really have got an assist almost as soon as he switched to the right, how Waigo missed from a yard out is beyond me the ball in from James was perfect.

 

He seemed to know when to go long and when to play an easy ball short, would much rather have him in holding midfield than Wotton. Wether James is the long term solution who knows, on yesterdays viewing I don't see why he shouldn't keep his place for the Walsall game on Saturday.

 

I'm with you on that - I thought James had a pretty good game last night. In addition to his more defensive duties, he played a couple of neat backheels down the line, and put in a lovely low cross which Lallana really should have buried (I guess that's the should-have-been assist you mention).

 

A post like this one

 

No james was shocking tonight as he is every game. Why do you like him? He hasnt got any pace isnt skillful, positional sense is dreadful. He can cross occasionally, but I want him out of the team. He is rubbish.

 

sounds just like the bilge that was spouted all match (or at least until he left with ten minutes still to play) by some bloke behind me in the Kingsland. Anything James did less than perfectly was greeted with yells of derision, anything James did well (and there was plenty last night) was ignored. The best indication of this bloke's knowledge of the game, though, came when he complained (very) loudly that a Wycombe player was offside when receiving the ball from a throw-in. Top marks there then.

 

Just to get back on topic - Schneiderlin was class last night. The first time I saw him play (Brum in Carling Cup last season) he reminded me of Steve Williams - and praise doesn't come much higher than that. Last night he did it again. I hope he keeps right on doing it.

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In the couple of games I've seen him this season, I've not been impressed, however we tend to forget his age, and the fact he joined when we were FUBAR.

 

He undoubtedly has talent, but perhaps lacks some consistancy. The benefit however opf having a player like Morgan, is that with our ambitions to obtain successive promotions (if that happens), he's a player that will fit in no matter what league we're in. In League 1, there's a lot of hussle and bustle, and Morgan does get stuck in and does what's required of him, but as we go up (if we go up) through the leagues, he also has that quality you need from playing good flowing football.

 

I think with these differing playing styles, he could well be a first team fixture for years to come, as long as we keep the vultures away.

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A post like this one sounds just like the bilge that was spouted all match (or at least until he left with ten minutes still to play) by some bloke behind me in the Kingsland. Anything James did less than perfectly was greeted with yells of derision, anything James did well (and there was plenty last night) was ignored. The best indication of this bloke's knowledge of the game, though, came when he complained (very) loudly that a Wycombe player was offside when receiving the ball from a throw-in. Top marks there then.

 

I thought that when i read said post from said poster.

 

Some people eh ??

 

I know this is a forum and everyone for their own opinions but some people should just not bother contributing

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Maybe you should spend a little bit of time actually watching Lloyd James play football, didn't really do much wrong yesterday. Doesn't have the same physical presence as Wotton but he's better with nearly every other aspect of his game.

 

There's also no way we could switch so fluidly between 4-5-1 and 4-4-2 with Wotton in place of James. He should really have got an assist almost as soon as he switched to the right, how Waigo missed from a yard out is beyond me the ball in from James was perfect.

 

He seemed to know when to go long and when to play an easy ball short, would much rather have him in holding midfield than Wotton. Wether James is the long term solution who knows, on yesterdays viewing I don't see why he shouldn't keep his place for the Walsall game on Saturday.

 

I just don't think he is any good, sorry. I have watched James and I think he is very poor. That's my opinion. I think Morgan is class and that papa played well other than the offsides. I would have James out of team and think he is a player like telfer and j wright that gets picked for no reason

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I just don't think he is any good, sorry. I have watched James and I think he is very poor. That's my opinion. I think Morgan is class and that papa played well other than the offsides. I would have James out of team and think he is a player like telfer and j wright that gets picked for no reason

 

Unfortunately i don't agree with you, i do agree that his pace leaves him slightly exposed at RB but this is something that can be worked on, and even negated by improving timing of tackle and experience.

 

As a player however i think he could also be a good prospect, he is technically a decent player, and could even make the defensive midfield spot his own.

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Agree that Schneiderlin looked good. Some great cross field passes and he even got stuck into the tackle.

 

My main criticism of his game would be his lack of shooting and therefore goals. Both him and Hammond have the ability to sit back and play the ball, but whilst DH has the confidence to go forward and have a crack, Morgan doesn't.

 

Quick stat: Morgan has had 18 shots this season with 8 of them on target. That's compared to Lallana having 61 shots with 39 on target.

 

Not slating him, he has come on leaps and bound since last year, but I'd really like to see him have a decent crack more often.

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