doggface Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 The Brentford LB as discussed on here in the past is due to sign for us imminently according to the Daily Echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Would be a very odd one. We dont need a left back IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 He can also play left midfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 nothing on the echo site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 The Brentford LB as discussed on here in the past is due to sign for us imminently according to the Daily Echo. Must be true then:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Seriously guys, if this guy is better than what we have, we should sign him end of. Yes Harding improved over the season, but look its a 46 game season plus at least 10 cup, so there is plenty of opportunities for everybody. I really like Mills, but i get the impression he is viewed more of a left mid. We need to recruit the best players we can, so this is a good thing. The days of keeping mediocrity are over, we can't afford to have favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Yes the days of keeping mediocrity are over, but Harding is the best LB in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joensuu Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Yes the days of keeping mediocrity are over, but Harding is the best LB in the league. Maybe, but if Dickson is the second best, IMO we should still sign him for competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 nothing on the echo site? Tis true, he turned down a new contract at Brentford to sign for us, we have to agree a compensation package with Brentford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 fair enough, just strange its not online. And welcome back MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 I thought we were supposed to be building a team of "top half championship" standard rather than picking off players from teams that finished below us in the third tier of English football....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 I thought we were supposed to be building a team of "top half championship" standard rather than picking off players from teams that finished below us in the third tier of English football....? Like Lambert, Hammond and Puncheon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Like Lambert, Hammond and Puncheon? I was commenting on my understanding of our future purchasing strategy for the coming season Them there purchases be in the past squire.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 I was commenting on my understanding of our future purchasing strategy for the coming season Them there purchases be in the past squire.... There are plenty of decent players in L1 and below who are more than capable given a chance, to play at a higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 There are plenty of decent players in L1 and below who are more than capable given a chance, to play at a higher level. this. Look at Peterborough United. They signed Craig Mackail Smith, George Boyd, Arron Maclean and others from non-league and they are plenty good enough at this, and possibly higher, level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 I thought we were supposed to be building a team of "top half championship" standard rather than picking off players from teams that finished below us in the third tier of English football....? Obviously Pardew feels he has the potential to be of that standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Ok, fair points....with which I agree. I'm just playing the ever so slightly devil's advocate card. I can't even remember the exact quote from Pardew but he did talk about building a side capable of playing in the top half of the championship THIS season, didn't he? As, yes, this could of course comprise mainly of players who show potential of being able to play at that level rather than just filling the team full of players who have already proven themselves at that level. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Good player, from reading alot of the reviews from Brentford fans it sounds like he's L1's version of Gareth Bale. he'll probably end up playing in front of harding, it would give us fantastic ballance. it's good to have competition.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alanh Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 I thought we were supposed to be building a team of "top half championship" standard rather than picking off players from teams that finished below us in the third tier of English football....? Just because we may be buying from other L1 teams doesn't mean that the players we are buying aren't nPC standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 it's good to have competition.. Yup. Punch & Lallana can play on either wing, but aside from those two, we have no back-up players to either of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 He's the best left back in the league and my mates favourite player. Fantastic signing for both reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 If Harding is the best left back in League 1 we are unlikely to sign a better left back from the CCC just so they can sit on the bench. If Dickson is the second best left back in League 1 it gives us real strength in depth - and real competition for places. We need 22 first team players - two for each position - if we are going to 'walk this league' in the coming season - and then a couple of good utilities players who can do a job in a number of positions. Also at 23 Dickson is at a good age and can get a lot better. Harding at 28 is probably near his peak from a fitness and experience point of view. I think its a good signing. Lets hope Inigo Calderon follows shortly along with a couple of others to add some real depth to the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 It all links in with the new kit speculation . New player has pictures / models new kit at same time?? I think would be a good signing in my opinion going by comments made by Brentford fans and it would provide useful cover for the left side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Ok, fair points....with which I agree. I'm just playing the ever so slightly devil's advocate card. I can't even remember the exact quote from Pardew but he did talk about building a side capable of playing in the top half of the championship THIS season, didn't he? As, yes, this could of course comprise mainly of players who show potential of being able to play at that level rather than just filling the team full of players who have already proven themselves at that level. cheers Have you ever seen him play??? How many times...must be a good judge if you have decided he couldn't play at a higher level. Kevin Phillips was plucked from non-league and managed 8 caps (one less than MLT) glad no-one decided he couldnt play at a higher level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Have you ever seen him play??? How many times...must be a good judge if you have decided he couldn't play at a higher level. Kevin Phillips was plucked from non-league and managed 8 caps (one less than MLT) glad no-one decided he couldnt play at a higher level. Ok, ok, ok.....I AGREE....!!!! I was just tossing in an alternative viewpoint in the interest of generating discussion. I'll crawl back under my stone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SO16_Saint Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Ok, ok, ok.....I AGREE....!!!! I was just tossing in an alternative viewpoint in the interest of generating discussion. I'll crawl back under my stone Be gone negative man, BE GONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 whats to say this guy isnt good enough to play in top half CCC football? a season to develop with us could be the tonic for his vodka. FFS Trousers. TROUSERS OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Its Ok Trousers...I am just a bit touchy after all the sh1te this week and too many willing to keep slating the club and picking holes all the time been reading SRS posts on the UI...god he has issues ;-). Ok I am not a happy clapper ..more of a miserable b8st8rd really but apologies if I jumped too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Mabes Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 My Brentford supporting mate said he's their best player - so that'll do for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 For a team like us, decent full backs are critical. We will find teams coming to SMS next season and sitting back content to turn the midfield into a logjam. Having fullbacks that can take the game to the opposition and give us that extra man will make teams think twice about playing so negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Not much to it, but.... http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/saints/news/8202027.Dickson_set_for_Saints_medical/?ref=rss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsforlife7 Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Signing and kit launch this afternoon then? After all it is Friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 I only hope Pardew is planning to play him at LM. We don't need 3 LBs and neither Harding nor Dickinson is going to be satisfied with playing in the reserves all season. IF this is true of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Dickson "Is the best left back in this division" - so says his former boss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 I only hope Pardew is planning to play him at LM. We don't need 3 LBs and neither Harding nor Dickinson is going to be satisfied with playing in the reserves all season. IF this is true of course. So if Dickson plays LM, where are you suggesting Lallana plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 (edited) I only hope Pardew is planning to play him at LM. We don't need 3 LBs and neither Harding nor Dickinson is going to be satisfied with playing in the reserves all season. IF this is true of course. I think you will find that for a 23 yr old, the prospect of being at Saints in a promotion to CCC year will be enough of an incentive, especially if he gets a better salary deal. Being understudy to Harding will not be a problem to a professional IMO. Add to this the fact that IF Calderon signs, but gets injured at some stage, then Harding can move to RB and Dickson can go LB. Mills is understudy. Options looking very good across the back four. Looking at it another way, if he's to play LM what's going to happen to Lallana and Puncheon - will they both be dropped? I don't think so, although this might be an indicator that AP wants Lallana on the right and Antonio is not coming back to us. Edited 4 June, 2010 by Saint Fan CaM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Sounds to be a good prospect & a decent signing, If we get Calderon in at Right back then he maybe considering using Harding as an emergency R/B when necessary (did a great job at Wembley) & Dickson as the back up L/B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Yes the days of keeping mediocrity are over, but Harding is the best LB in the league. What were our results against Brentford? Two 1-1 draws says Dickson is no better than Harding. Brentford 52 goals conceded. Saints 47 goals conceded. Yes our defence was/is weak and needs strengthening, but who is the better footballer at LB and the more appropriate choice for our attacking style of play? For me the jury is out. I'd be interested to to know more about the strengths and weaknesses of both players' games. Can anyone oblige? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 So if Dickson plays LM, where are you suggesting Lallana plays? I would use Dickson as a substitute LM if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MerceSaint28 Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Sorry how can you compare the two team's defences as if they have significance on the players abilities. Here is how it breaks down, Harding is a solid defensive full back who offers little going forward. When Saints play at home, they struggle to break teams down as Harding and the other full back can't push forward. This lad Dickson is a very attacking full back, who carved us open a few times and caught the eye. The consensus is that he is going to help the team become a more attacking threat by overlapping the midfielders and getting forward. Not rocket science and definitely needed. As mentioned before, anyone who can add to the quality of the team is welcome in my eyes. As for those who are saying playing Harding at right back, terible idea. Okay as a stop gap, but we need balance not square pegs in round holes. We probably need 2 right backs brought in, 2 centre midfielders and at least one large striker to deputise for Ricky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 What were our results against Brentford? Two 1-1 draws says Dickson is no better than Harding. Brentford 52 goals conceded. Saints 47 goals conceded. Yes our defence was/is weak and needs strengthening, but who is the better footballer at LB and the more appropriate choice for our attacking style of play? For me the jury is out. What bizarre logic! You can't use the results of a team to determine the ability of an individual like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Its Ok Trousers...I am just a bit touchy after all the sh1te this week and too many willing to keep slating the club and picking holes all the time been reading SRS posts on the UI...god he has issues ;-). Ok I am not a happy clapper ..more of a miserable b8st8rd really but apologies if I jumped too far. No, I should be the one apologising for stoking things up :-) We all love each other really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 What were our results against Brentford? Two 1-1 draws says Dickson is no better than Harding. It says nothing of the sort. By this sort of bizarre logic Jermaine Beckford is better than Wayne Rooney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 3 year deal according to this... http://www.stainesnews.co.uk/surrey-sport/brentford/2010/06/04/brentford-defender-ryan-dickson-set-for-saints-switch-64767-26587637/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Yes the days of keeping mediocrity are over, but Harding is the best LB in the league. I love the rose tinted view of some Saints fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom28 Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 What were our results against Brentford? Two 1-1 draws says Dickson is no better than Harding. Brentford 52 goals conceded. Saints 47 goals conceded. Yes our defence was/is weak and needs strengthening, but who is the better footballer at LB and the more appropriate choice for our attacking style of play? For me the jury is out. I'd be interested to to know more about the strengths and weaknesses of both players' games. Can anyone oblige? This reminds me...we should have an annual award for 'worst post of the year'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 I love the rose tinted view of some Saints fans I wholeheartedly concur that Harding is probably the division's best left back. If it wasn't for Lambert, the division's top striker, Harding would have been voted our best player. He's the most consistently good player in our squad, IMO; Mr reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stattmeister Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 I love the rose tinted view of some Saints fans Sorry buddy - who do you think is/was the best left back in L1 in 09/10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 4 June, 2010 Share Posted 4 June, 2010 Also at 23 Dickson is at a good age and can get a lot better. Harding at 28 is probably near his peak from a fitness and experience point of view. I think its a good signing. Lets hope Inigo Calderon follows shortly along with a couple of others to add some real depth to the squad. Very good point,perhaps Dickson is seen as a longer term investment for the CCC ...(and beyond as he has age on his side). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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