Echo says Adkins on brink of Saints job 2.30pm

[Topcat]

Adkins on brink of Saints job 2:30pm Wednesday 8th September 2010

 

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/8378954.Adkins_on_brink_of_Saints_job/

 

"Negotiations are thought to be underway this afternoon to complete all the necessary formalities, such as signing contracts and agreeing compensation with Championship side S****horpe. "

[Robsk II]

A HUGE coup. Oh no, wait.

[Junior Mullet]

Happy days. Glad we are getting a big name manager to make up for all the turmoil. He's a huge name that should inspire the players and stop them deserting ship.

 

Thank you NC, if true.

[Topcat]

Happy days. Glad we are getting a big name manager to make up for all the turmoil. He's a huge name that should inspire the players and stop them deserting ship.

Thank you NC, if true.

 

Had a liquid lunch?

[alpine_saint]

Hmmmmm.

 

Lets see what response he gets from the team....

[brmbrm]

I'm still tryng to figure out what he's got that Pardew didn't, apart from being on Lou Reid's Christams card list.

 

I'm beaten. Oh well.

[SO16_Saint]

Happy days. Glad we are getting a big name manager to make up for all the turmoil. He's a huge name that should inspire the players and stop them deserting ship.

 

Thank you NC, if true.

 

are you on glue?

[gonzo]

Some people need to get a grip. He may not be a big name but he's proved himself to be a capable manager.

[MarkSFC]

As normal.....completely speculative. "thought to be underway"...and "last minute hitch not out of the question" to quote two parts!!!

[ottery st mary]

I feel comforted by his 22 certificates and good old Uncle Sir Less will be running the show....

 

What ever happened to Zola and Clarke or was it Shearer and Keegan?

 

I blame the old farts in the stand for bringing in this shambolic new system half ****ed...

 

Anyway...good luck Nigel and get derry onside early doors and give us all a break...

[Saint Billy]

Whelmed

[Robsk II]

If it happens, I'll not be ****ed off. I just think it's not an 'improvement' over Pards (unless time proves him to be the next AF) and I think the club should, in that context, be more transparent as to what happened. If Pards was shipped out to get a 'big player' in, then it seems illogical, that's all.

[Hopkins]

Chuffed. Decent record, good reputation of the football played at S****horpe. He won't come in wanting to change everything like a top name probably would. Don't know too much about this but he always striked me as someone who's a bit of a maverick and I'd suspect that side of him shows in the way his teams play, so he'll be willing to change and try different things tactically (especially at home, where we have always been stuck for a plan b). From his record (how long he's been at certain placeS) I doubt he'd leave a pretty tied down job to something that could be considered a huge risk, so I'd imagine he's willing to come here for the long term and work with the academy etc.

 

Fits the bill imo. Didn't want a big name like O'Neill or Keegan because they'd both use there reputations to throw there weight around, which would ultimately cause problems with Cortese again (which whether we like him or not, we have to get used to the fact that he's overlooking everything).

[wild-saint]

I find it amazing that people dismiss Adkins just because he isnt one of the name mangers who make a fortune from the merry go round of management placements with a general record mediocrity. Within my business I will assess a candidate based partly on thier track record and also from thier ambition for the future (and how they articulate thier strategy to deliver). Then its a gut judgement from thier inteview performance of whether they have the potential to be a star.

 

Businessmen who write off potential candidates with future potentail are genrally shortsighted and doomed to failure in my experience.

[Nexstar]

He'll get us out of League one, after that we'll see, but he's exactly what we need right now.

[sotonist]

His name is at least as big as Pardew.

 

Definitely bigger than Alan

[SO16_Saint]

His name is at least as big as Pardew.

 

Definitely bigger than Alan

 

bet they call him Nige therefore it's NOT a step forward

[CWD]

Good, full confidence in him to get us out of this league

[saint_stevo]

Looks like Phil Parkinson.

 

Not happy

[the saint in winchester]

Get off Mullet's back. He's right. After all this talk of a wow signing, we're getting Nigel Adkins, a deadringer for my GP.

If we have aspirations of the Premier League, we should get in quality - the best we can.

Adkins isn't going to attract quality players, and he isn't going to excite our current players and make them believe we are on the fast track to success.

 

The only hope I have based on the original quote is a belief that compensation would have been agreed with Scunny before we talked to Adkins, so I'm hoping this is a false alarm.

 

Still dreaming of MO'N or Phil The Power. I'd even take Eddie Howe right now.

[Son of Bob]

He'll get my full support. OK, he's not the glamourous name some hoped but he's definitely a sensible choice. I just hope people don't start sharpening their knives the minute his appointment's announced.

[CWD]

FFS give the bloke a chance. everyone has to start somewhere

[Nexstar]

Get off Mullet's back. He's right. After all this talk of a wow signing, we're getting Nigel Adkins, a deadringer for my GP.

If we have aspirations of the Premier League, we should get in quality - the best we can.

Adkins isn't going to attract quality players, and he isn't going to excite our current players and make them believe we are on the fast track to success.

 

The only hope I have based on the original quote is a belief that compensation would have been agreed with Scunny before we talked to Adkins, so I'm hoping this is a false alarm.

 

Still dreaming of MO'N or Phil The Power. I'd even take Eddie Howe right now.

 

What does Eddie Howe have over Adkins? How on Earth would Eddie Howe attract star names?!

[daveygwyatt]

He'll get us out of League one, after that we'll see, but he's exactly what we need right now.

 

 

 

he may well get us out of league one .But he is not what we need right now. we need some one with WOW factor, someone who will put bums on seats, lift the clubs profile and attract big names.. that said if it is Adkins then i will get behind him as we all should

[alpine_saint]

He has the main bulk of the squad for promotion (so long as he wins them round), with a bit better motivation and tactical astuteness than AP I am sure he can get the rest of the performance, but a couple of loans it would be nailed on.

 

It is so, so, so important he connects with the team.

 

Good luck to the man, I say.

[saint_stevo]

Is he any better than Pardew............?

 

Not too sure myself

[Topcat]

Good, full confidence in him to get us out of this league

 

relegation?

[Red]

If it happens, I'll not be ****ed off. I just think it's not an 'improvement' over Pards (unless time proves him to be the next AF) and I think the club should, in that context, be more transparent as to what happened. If Pards was shipped out to get a 'big player' in, then it seems illogical, that's all.

 

He is a clear improvement over AP in that they will get on and work together! No matter how good / high profile a manager, if he does not get on with the Chairman then it will never work in the long run (as the Saggy chops and RL example perfectly illustrates).

 

Let's give the new man a chance before we write him off - he might just be exactly what we need?

[The9]

Is he any better than Pardew............?

 

Not too sure myself

 

I'm very sure.

 

Very sure we were better with what we had. Even if he's a massive success we'd still be going into the Prem with a manager with no Prem experience.

[BadgerBadger]

Chuffed. Decent record, good reputation of the football played at S****horpe. He won't come in wanting to change everything like a top name probably would. Don't know too much about this but he always striked me as someone who's a bit of a maverick and I'd suspect that side of him shows in the way his teams play, so he'll be willing to change and try different things tactically (especially at home, where we have always been stuck for a plan b). From his record (how long he's been at certain placeS) I doubt he'd leave a pretty tied down job to something that could be considered a huge risk, so I'd imagine he's willing to come here for the long term and work with the academy etc.

 

Fits the bill imo. Didn't want a big name like O'Neill or Keegan because they'd both use there reputations to throw there weight around, which would ultimately cause problems with Cortese again (which whether we like him or not, we have to get used to the fact that he's overlooking everything).

 

I like the cut of your jib

[The9]

He is a clear improvement over AP in that they will get on and work together! No matter how good / high profile a manager, if he does not get on with the Chairman then it will never work in the long run

 

In which case Cortese should have stood down, citing his inability to work with... anyone, apparently.

[sambosa75]

I think the reasons people are underwhelmed is because S****horpe sort of discovered him by accident. That said, during his short managerial career he has done a very good job and seems quite an intelligent bloke also.

 

A bit of an anti-climax to some of the names that have been bandied about but in my opinion, a damn site better than Paul Hart or Phil Brown. Would have taken Alan Shearer above Adkins however and think he may have been up for the job and in an ideal world we'd be celebrating the second coming of Kevin Keegan or going mental at having Martin O'Neill.

[derry]

His team plays decent football, if he carries that on with us it will be a big improvement.

[saint77]

another huge slip up for cortese he had the oppurtunity to put the feel good factor back into saints by going for mon or keegan

 

feel he has cheated us again

[saint_stevo]

I'm very sure.

 

Very sure we were better with what we had. Even if he's a massive success we'd still be going into the Prem with a manager with no Prem experience.

 

Exactly. And we would have had a manager with HIS team this season.............

[alpine_saint]

I'm very sure.

 

Very sure we were better with what we had.

 

What if NC is more inclined to dip into the transfer market with a manager he can trust now ? Might make all the difference.

[Torres]

We'll have a decent season under Adkins but results at the start of next season won't be so good and we'll replace him with Les Parry.

[The9]

What if NC is more inclined to dip into the transfer market with a manager he can trust now ? Might make all the difference.

 

Then, again, Cortese is the problem.

Edited 8 September, 2010 by The9
comma for clarity

[The9]

We'll have a decent season under Adkins but results at the start of next season won't be so good and we'll replace him with Les Parry.

 

Steve Wigley, surely ?

[Robsk II]

He is a clear improvement over AP in that they will get on and work together! No matter how good / high profile a manager, if he does not get on with the Chairman then it will never work in the long run (as the Saggy chops and RL example perfectly illustrates).

 

Let's give the new man a chance before we write him off - he might just be exactly what we need?

 

I'm all for it if it works, but what makes you so sure they'll get on when sh*t comes to shovel? I haven't and won't write him off. My only point was that the club should just say if they didn't see eye to eye, because then it's reason enough to get another guy in. Doing so to get a 'better man' then getting someone who certainly hasn't shown himself to be better (though me may, of course) is weird.

[Give it to Ron]

So how long would MON have stayed once a big Prem job became available??

We would of been at the Pardew/Hoddle/WGS stage all over again.

 

It makes me laugh when I keep seeing him called a rookie....when he has been managing at least over 4 years....how many managers have we had in that time?

[alpine_saint]

Then, again, Cortese is the problem.

 

Mental

[Lord Duckhunter]

Got as good a CV as Lawrie had, when he arrived.

 

MoN-Never a runner in my opinion, but if he was whose to say he wouldn't have been another Harry Redknapp, or Brian Clough at Brighton.

 

I always got the impression that Pardew does not create a stable and steady culture at a Club. Just a hunch after reading various things from his West Ham and Charlton days. I always thought he'd get us out of this league, but that like he did at West Ham it would involve ups and downs and sneaking through the play offs. I never believed he would do a Paul lambert, or Nigel Pearson and walk the League.

 

We are now where we are and all this talk of whether Adkins is better than Pardew is as relivant as whther he's better than Wotte or Burley. In our postion I think he's a steady eddie, who has proved he can get teams out of this league. Let's just hope he's given time by both the supporters and NC to complete the job. Remember without Lawrie being given time, we would have missed out on the Clubs greatest era.

[saint_stevo]

What if NC is more inclined to dip into the transfer market with a manager he can trust now ? Might make all the difference.

 

Why would he trust a stranger more than some random bloke from Scunny?!

 

Better the devil you know

[The9]

Mental

 

On the contrary, he's already proven he's able to destabilise the club at a moment's notice.

[Foxstone]

another huge slip up for cortese he had the oppurtunity to put the feel good factor back into saints by going for mon or keegan

 

feel he has cheated us again

 

And what if he did enquire after those 2 and they both declined ?

 

"Cheated again" !!!

 

What drama queens we have as fans !

 

Good luck Adkins - Perhaps he will come with a galvanising attitude much the same as Pearson did.

[Nexstar]

We could have ended up with someone like Keegan who would be pretty clueless in a division like this but would have brought a 'wow' factor to some extent. I'm not interested in bums on seats for a manager, i'm interested in someone who can win us games and win us promotion out of this crap division - that will bring the fans back.

[Sour Mash]

Does look like it's going to be Adkins. Bit surprised, as I thought Cortese would go for someone from abroad and a bit more interesting/exciting, but Adkins seems a good, bright, enthusiastic, young coach, with a proven record of getting teams promoted out of this division. I don't think he is an improvement on Pardew, but the fans need to get behind him from the off, absolutely pointless being negative from the start.

[dockland Dave]

when WGS was appointed most Saints fans were underwhelmed after his failure at Cov

When Dave Jones arrived most saints fans were underwhelmed

when Chris Nichol arrived " "

When Laurie Mac arrived " "

 

A big name doesn't gaurentee success. We are hiring a bright up and coming young manager who so far has beaten all expections. Pardew was a good solid manager, but he certainly wasn't special

[JackanorySFC]

Goes with what I heard yesterday - deal wasnt done as Cortese was at a certain national tabloid's offices for 3 hours trying to convince their Sports Editor to be nice to us!