SuperSAINT Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 BBC South today claim Eddie Howe turned us down! (Apologies if this got covered in another thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 I think it is more likely he turned down the chance of an interview rather than turning an actual job offer down. There is a big difference between the two. I can't see why they would have offered the job to Howe before offering it to Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Never thought I would see the day when the Bournemouth Manager thinks he has a better job at Bournemouth than at Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Wouldn't have wanted him here. Just something a bit cheap about stealing a smaller neighbour's boss, the last time it happened was disasterous too, wasn't it Mr Twitch.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFear Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 they said he had turned it down today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Sounds like Cortese doesn't know what he is doing. Acting on impulse. He could not get Adkins on the cheap so he went for Howe. Now Howe turns us down and he is after Adkins again. This doesn't inspire me with confidence! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8382844.Howe_turns_down_Saints/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokingFun Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 On SSN now B'mth chairman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Sounds like Cortese doesn't know what he is doing. Acting on impulse. He could not get Adkins on the cheap so he went for Howe. Now Howe turns us down and he is after Adkins again. This doesn't inspire me with confidence! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8382844.Howe_turns_down_Saints/ I am in complete agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Never thought I would see the day when the Bournemouth Manager thinks he has a better job at Bournemouth than at Saints. conidered "safer" rather than "better". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Sounds like Cortese doesn't know what he is doing. Acting on impulse. He could not get Adkins on the cheap so he went for Howe. Now Howe turns us down and he is after Adkins again. This doesn't inspire me with confidence! http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/8382844.Howe_turns_down_Saints/ Any direct quotes in there? Or is it just "The Echo Understands"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmel Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Whoooooaaaaaaaaaa hold your horses. Eddie Howe did interview for the job, that was fairly common knowledge. He didnt get it and now has to go back to Bournemouth and whilst it might not be a case building bridges, he does have to save some face (Not exactly the right words, but you know what i mean) and the best and most effective way of doing that is to say he turned it down. Bournemouth fans (The Gullable ones) love him, players confidence restored and everything is good again. It would be much harder to go back and say, i had the interview, didn't get the job, so i'm back here. Nothing to beat Cortese with on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Cherries chairman confirms approach & interview occured. Howe offered job today & turned it down! Not looking good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Typical skate, fickle and bitter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 I assume he turned it down as he looked like second choice, and probably was. I would have preferred him rather than Adkins but que sera Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 This is getting ridiculous. For someone as experienced as Cortese in the corporate world, he is making an absolute pigs ear of this, and further tarnishing the club's reputation. Bournemouth Chairman just been on SSN confirming Howe has turned us down. If I was Adkins I'd probably end my interest in the position now. Let's hope he doesn't. As I say, a pigs ear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Cherries chairman confirms approach & interview occured. Howe offered job today & turned it down! Not looking good! Where does it say this? Where are the quotes from the individuals concerned. Not disbelieving you but I've not seen anything like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Cherries chairman confirms approach & interview occured. Howe offered job today & turned it down! Not looking good! The interview process is a two way thing. How many jobs have you turned down after a succesful interview? Would you rather he had accepted if he didn't actually want to be here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Cherries chairman confirms approach & interview occured. Howe offered job today & turned it down! Not looking good! Maybe because he knew he was 2nd choice to Adkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 All these managers with POTENTIAL are too small fry. Cortese should just swallow his Pride and bring in Martin O'Neil. Give up with this stupid idea of a manager working under Les reed its never going to work. Even a manager brought in knowing everything he does must first be cleared by Les Reed, sooner or later they are going to have a disagreement and then we will be back to square one. Looking for another new manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Having been tied up today all that has unfolded in the press and on here looks like an incredible sh*tstorm! I think that when we wake tomorrow to our manifold tax rebate letters South Today will broadcast that Cortese was simply creating a smokescreen and that Martin O'Neil (Kevin Keegan, either or...) is the man to take our beloved Saints back to the Premier League and away from all the tawdry below stairs nonsense that has clouded our 125 anniversary season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 All these managers with POTENTIAL are too small fry. Cortese should just swallow his Pride and bring in Martin O'Neil. Give up with this stupid idea of a manager working under Les reed its never going to work. Even a manager brought in knowing everything he does must first be cleared by Les Reed, sooner or later they are going to have a disagreement and then we will be back to square one. Looking for another new manager. Swallow his pride and bring in MoN Oh ffs. Why are people this deluded We would struggle to get him if we were a prem club right now Unreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iansums Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Cherries chairman confirms approach & interview occured. Howe offered job today & turned it down! Not looking good! Probably another thick Chairman getting the wrong end of the stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Wilts Saint Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 This is getting ridiculous. For someone as experienced as Cortese in the corporate world, he is making an absolute pigs ear of this, and further tarnishing the club's reputation. Bournemouth Chairman just been on SSN confirming Howe has turned us down. If I was Adkins I'd probably end my interest in the position now. Let's hope he doesn't. As I say, a pigs ear... Doesnt add up iwth what Adkins says on his interview, in that the clubs were talikng alst night and today about compensation. Both the Bournemouth and Scunny chairman are trying to make points for their clubs, personally think they are both bullsh*ters - expect Cortese is doing things right - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Swallow his pride and bring in MoN Oh ffs. Why are people this deluded We would struggle to get him if we were a prem club right now Unreal Well MoN is probably far fetched but there are plenty of managers out there with more stature and relevant experience. To be honest I think we should just loan managers from other clubs - we rarely need them for too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graffito Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 If he was indeed actually offered the job (which I believe is doubtful) then of course he turned it down, he was second choice. Best decision for both sides as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Anyone who believes, even remotely, that MON would even consider coming to a L1 club needs to be sectioned under the mental health act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Whoooooaaaaaaaaaa hold your horses. Eddie Howe did interview for the job, that was fairly common knowledge. He didnt get it and now has to go back to Bournemouth and whilst it might not be a case building bridges, he does have to save some face (Not exactly the right words, but you know what i mean) and the best and most effective way of doing that is to say he turned it down. Bournemouth fans (The Gullable ones) love him, players confidence restored and everything is good again. It would be much harder to go back and say, i had the interview, didn't get the job, so i'm back here. Nothing to beat Cortese with on this one. I'm with you on this one......if he didn't want the job he would have turned us down before the interview.....damage limitation with the bompey fans me thinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Well MoN is probably far fetched but there are plenty of managers out there with more stature and relevant experience. To be honest I think we should just loan managers from other clubs - we rarely need them for too long. Stature has nowt to do with it. WGS was considered a poor appointment by the majority and Burley a great one. Which one has real stature amongst Saints fans? The ability to get players to play is what is required, oh, and a plan B would be a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 expect Cortese is doing things right - Ummm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Anyone who believes, even remotely, that MON would even consider coming to a L1 club needs to be sectioned under the mental health act. Sven joined League Two Notts County Brian Clough joined lower League Brighton after winning the top flight with Derby Money/ambition talks in football. Of course it wouldn't work with everyone, but if you show money and ambition it is possible to attract high profile name to the lower league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpTheCherries Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Some good spin you've got going here! Obviously just speculation, but many people in all walks of life sometimes go to interviews out of interest, with no real thought of taking the job if offered. He could easily have just gone along to take a look at the set up down your way. Or he could have decided against the idea of your Director Of Football set-up, who knows, but he's well within his rights to learn more about the club and position before rejecting it. One thing for sure though, he doesn't need to save face with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 The Bournemouth chairman was interviewed live on ssn. He said howe was offered this am & he turned it down. why would he lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Some good spin you've got going here! Obviously just speculation, but many people in all walks of life sometimes go to interviews out of interest, with no real thought of taking the job if offered. He could easily have just gone along to take a look at the set up down your way. Or he could have decided against the idea of your Director Of Football set-up, who knows, but he's well within his rights to learn more about the club and position before rejecting it. One thing for sure though, he doesn't need to save face with us. In your dreams. I mean this in an utterly patronising way when I state that Bournemouth are a noddy club with a noddy fanbase. Howe clearly wasn't a good enough candidate or he would have been here like a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 This is getting ridiculous. For someone as experienced as Cortese in the corporate world, he is making an absolute pigs ear of this, and further tarnishing the club's reputation. Bournemouth Chairman just been on SSN confirming Howe has turned us down. If I was Adkins I'd probably end my interest in the position now. Let's hope he doesn't. As I say, a pigs ear... S****horpe's Chairman also claimed a lot of things earlier today, which now appear to have been complete ****** so forgive me whilst I take what Bournemouth are saying with a large pinch of salt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossie1 Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 you all need to get a grip of yourselves and ask why Eddie Howe would turn down your club instead of slagging the bloke off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 (edited) The Bournemouth chairman was interviewed live on ssn. He said howe was offered this am & he turned it down. why would he lie? Because it makes his club look better, because it makes it easier for Howe to go back and not get abuse from his own fans. Why would he be interviewed for the job, have a discussion with NC about how it would work and come away to be offered the job and then turn it down? That makes no sense at all, if he wasn't happy with the set up then I'm sure that would have come out at the interview. Edit: Also funny that he has turned it down, given that we offered Adkins the job this morning!! Edited 9 September, 2010 by Gorgiesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Because it makes his club look better, because it makes it easier for Howe to go back and not get abuse from his own fans. Exactly. As bewildering as this might seem Bournemouth fans consider us to be local rivals. I bet they're gutted that we never talk about them such is their insignificance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Or he could have decided against the idea of your Director Of Football set-up, who knows, yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 you all need to get a grip of yourselves and ask why Eddie Howe would turn down your club instead of slagging the bloke off Because he was 2nd choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Eddie Howe was interviewed earlier in the week, this morning he was asked would he take the job. As the Nigel Adkins negotiations, leaks etc and statements were already in the public domain he would have known that he was second choice to Nigel Adkins who had been offered the job and agreed personal terms but had appeared to be staying at Scun thorpe. It is hardly surprising he decided to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Sven joined League Two Notts County Brian Clough joined lower League Brighton after winning the top flight with Derby And those examples really worked didn't they! Both Cloughie and Sven were rip roaring successes. Anyone who thinks, even slightly, that it's possible really is an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Who cares about Eddie howe, it´s extremely doubtfull he would have handled the pressure of ambitous saints after being at a club with low expectations, could of worked but would have been a risk, sorry bompey but i doubt the majority of saints fans are as devastated as you want us to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 This is a ****ing joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Eddie Howe was interviewed earlier in the week, this morning he was asked would he take the job. As the Nigel Adkins negotiations, leaks etc and statements were already in the public domain he would have known that he was second choice to Nigel Adkins who had been offered the job and agreed personal terms but had appeared to be staying at Scun thorpe. It is hardly surprising he decided to pass. Exactly. Last academic year I turned down a cracking job, a step up if you will, from where I am when I was told that the preferred candidate had turn them down. I was going to be 2nd best for anyone and I don't blame Howe for doing the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wightman35 Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 I'm with you on this one......if he didn't want the job he would have turned us down before the interview.....damage limitation with the bompey fans me thinks. Agreed; Gemmel and you have seen this spot on. No wonder the Echo is banned from SMS if they have to rake up this nonsense and put a negative spin on it! In my opinion, Wharton has made a bit of an ass of himself re "Ultimatum" and NC was in this case probably tarnished unfairly. Following Adkins press conference I think that he (Adkins) comes across as honourable and a good prospective manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 Some good spin you've got going here! Obviously just speculation, but many people in all walks of life sometimes go to interviews out of interest, with no real thought of taking the job if offered. He could easily have just gone along to take a look at the set up down your way. Or he could have decided against the idea of your Director Of Football set-up, who knows, but he's well within his rights to learn more about the club and position before rejecting it. One thing for sure though, he doesn't need to save face with us. Regardless of the reason he did turn down/may have turned down the job, it is really not very cool for that to be leaked. It's either a disrespect to a fellow chairman (if your chairman leaked it) or a disrespect to the fellow manager who eventually gets the job (if Howe leaked it). The mature and dignified thing would have been to stay quiet. And the smart thing, too. You're now on Cortese's sh*t list, just in case you need a favour down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossie1 Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 First, second or even fifth choice...he turned it down. Everyone at AFCB knew an interview would take place and no one here would hold it against the bloke if he went. You lot clearly cant get your head around the fact both scunny and Bmth managers have turned you down. Perhaps a wake up call? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 First, second or even fifth choice...he turned it down. Everyone at AFCB knew an interview would take place and no one here would hold it against the bloke if he went. You lot clearly cant get your head around the fact both scunny and Bmth managers have turned you down. Perhaps a wake up call? I think Nigel Adkins made it pretty clear he hadn't turned us down. As for Howe, best of luck to him and you guys. I genuinely wish you, our second club, all the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Majestic Channon Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 First, second or even fifth choice...he turned it down. Everyone at AFCB knew an interview would take place and no one here would hold it against the bloke if he went. You lot clearly cant get your head around the fact both scunny and Bmth managers have turned you down. Perhaps a wake up call? No..of course not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 9 September, 2010 Share Posted 9 September, 2010 First, second or even fifth choice...he turned it down. Everyone at AFCB knew an interview would take place and no one here would hold it against the bloke if he went. You lot clearly cant get your head around the fact both scunny and Bmth managers have turned you down. Perhaps a wake up call? Most can't understand why we are bothering with managers of virtual non league clubs with no expectations or ambitions and who are watched by a combined fan base smaller that our average attendance. Just saying like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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