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Gemmel

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Local Radio up in London, reporting that Fulham are playing Saints today in a behind closed doors friendly. The objective (From Fulhams perspective) is to start getting Johnson fit again.

 

Couldnt see anything else or find anything else out about it.

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Upcoming fixtures against Tanzanian u21s next Tuesday and Bournemouth on Nov 9th.

I wonder why they are playing these games behind closed doors. Surely for pro players playing in front of a crowd, however small, is part of the game, and essential to development. I'm sure Tanzania U21s would pull in a couple of dozen spectators for such a prestige international friendly

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Also why do we keep calling this our U-21 team when the names on the match reports often include many well over 21?

 

Stupid isn't it.

Very good team actually, especially the back 4.

 

bialkowski, richardson, jaidi, A. Martin, dickson, chamberlain, mcnish, wotton, reeves, holmes, doble

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Also why do we keep calling this our U-21 team when the names on the match reports often include many well over 21?

 

Richardson and Dickson playing in this match, strange to see our two summer signings playing in the reserves, for entirely different reasons though.Very few of the younger players in action anyway, it seems to be a test side for the first team more than anything else.

 

Bart,Richardson,Jaidi,Martin, Dickson,AOC,Wotton,Holmes,Doble,Reeves plus one I can't remember.

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i'm sure he was the referee for the game last week against the Nike Academy as well ?

 

Yes, he was.

 

He retired from the professional game three years ago but still does the odd game. Probably fits them in when he can and gets money for it so suits him. Or maybe Saints have signed him as the clubs own referee... :D

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As I understand it, you can play for an U21's team as long as you are 21 or younger at the start of the season. Mystery solved.

 

One word - David Peach; stand to be corrected but think he once held the record for the most over-age appearances for what was then the u23's. To stick my neck out further is not the modern record for the most over-age appearances in the u21's held by a Mr D Prutton, once of this parish? And for a hat-trick (he's on a roll now) am I right in saying they don't have over-age players in u21 football anymore?

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As I understand it, you can play for an U21's team as long as you are 21 or younger at the start of the season. Mystery solved.

 

Wotton was under 21 at the start of the year?! I didn't realise. He hasn't worn well has he?

 

Now Jaidi on the other hand, ....... oh and Richardson, ... and Bialkowski ....and Holmes....and Dickson ....

 

Really it's a surprise the U-21 team is allowed out without a babysitter ;)

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One word - David Peach; stand to be corrected but think he once held the record for the most over-age appearances for what was then the u23's. To stick my neck out further is not the modern record for the most over-age appearances in the u21's held by a Mr D Prutton, once of this parish? And for a hat-trick (he's on a roll now) am I right in saying they don't have over-age players in u21 football anymore?

 

In terms of the International side, you have to be under 21 when the qualifying begins. The players could well be over 21 when the finals come around.

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One word - David Peach; stand to be corrected but think he once held the record for the most over-age appearances for what was then the u23's. To stick my neck out further is not the modern record for the most over-age appearances in the u21's held by a Mr D Prutton, once of this parish? And for a hat-trick (he's on a roll now) am I right in saying they don't have over-age players in u21 football anymore?

 

isn't that two words;)

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In terms of the International side, you have to be under 21 when the qualifying begins. The players could well be over 21 when the finals come around.

 

all part of Reeds grand plan, u21? developement?, b/s that they feed us!!, hardly any u21s so who gets developed?,

 

Reeds plan to get his mate hunter in....cortese buys it because he doesnt know any better, and we are left with the spin of developement as opposed to reserves.

 

what happened to the "marquee" developement games, spurs, arsenal, inter milan ,even an Italian tour!! All muted, nothing delivered, it is a waste at the moment, nike academy?? tanzania u21s perleeease!!! Behind closed doors!!! who do we think we are?

 

oxo martin robbo and the kids who played at eastleigh will not progress playing these games, and they are gonna be called on at some stage, and even the overage players who also will be needed are preparing badly from a match fitness/game scenario

point of view.

 

 

There are development teams abroad, but they are 16-18yr old teams who are DEVELOPING!!

 

im not buying this b/s, alarm bells started to ring with the ap sacking statement,lawyer/management gobbledeegook, there is a disconnect between cortese /reed and us, the fans, or am i on my own in feeling this.

 

its about communication not obfuscation.

 

Please dont just dismiss this again as a cortese /reed agenda (although now i think about it ,it probably is,but is that so wrong?)i think its open for discussion, as i do have grave doubts about the way we are being run in and around the training ground.

 

My concerns werent with pardew or the team this year,i thought we would definately go up and be close to winning it,that now cant happen for whatever reason,i then changed my view after the wilkins debacle, too many lost points and bound to take the new guy a while to get going,it made me wonder why he (wilkins) escaped the cull!!

 

NA came in espousing the quality of the squad and how pleased he was to inherit it, so my only grouse is with the decision making at the top,cortese knows nothing of running a football club and i dont think the advice he gets from reed stands up to scrutiny....thus far

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Leftback, you've sometimes had some valid points but I think this one gets lost in your agenda.

 

I couldn't care about the semantics of "development squad", its the reserves but if they want to call it something different, go for it. And I'd have said this match is EXACTLY why we shouldn't be playing in a ridiculous reserves league, plying our trade against Forest Green Rovers and other such luminaries on cold, wet, Tuesday evenings away from home. If calling it a development squad means that we can finally play our reserves and promising youngsters against another decent reserve outfit, then I'm all for it. There's not been enough of this type of game for the development squad, I agree. But in the case of this game I think it has served its purpose.

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Leftback, you've sometimes had some valid points but I think this one gets lost in your agenda.

 

I couldn't care about the semantics of "development squad", its the reserves but if they want to call it something different, go for it. And I'd have said this match is EXACTLY why we shouldn't be playing in a ridiculous reserves league, plying our trade against Forest Green Rovers and other such luminaries on cold, wet, Tuesday evenings away from home. If calling it a development squad means that we can finally play our reserves and promising youngsters against another decent reserve outfit, then I'm all for it. There's not been enough of this type of game for the development squad, I agree. But in the case of this game I think it has served its purpose.

 

100pc agreed, i was really refering to previous poor fixtures,this level of opposition, if its the way they are going to be now is indeed a good move , but the quality of the opposition now established has be be maintained.

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all part of Reeds grand plan, u21? developement?, b/s that they feed us!!, hardly any u21s so who gets developed?,

 

Reeds plan to get his mate hunter in....cortese buys it because he doesnt know any better, and we are left with the spin of developement as opposed to reserves.wh ocares what they are called?

 

what happened to the "marquee" developement games, spurs, arsenal, inter milan ,even an Italian tour!! All muted, nothing delivered, it is a waste at the moment, nike academy?? tanzania u21s perleeease!!! Behind closed doors!!! who do we think we are? where were this "marquee" games muted?

 

oxo martin robbo and the kids who played at eastleigh will not progress playing these games, and they are gonna be called on at some stage, and even the overage players who also will be needed are preparing badly from a match fitness/game scenario would suggest they would get better development playing Fulham reserves that Bolderwood reserves B team and other who would have been in the reserve laegue had we stayed in

point of view.

 

 

There are development teams abroad, but they are 16-18yr old teams who are DEVELOPING!!

 

im not buying this b/s, alarm bells started to ring with the ap sacking statement,lawyer/management gobbledeegook, there is a disconnect between cortese /reed and us, the fans, or am i on my own in feeling this. Yep - on your own.

 

its about communication not obfuscation. its not its about football, crowds and results.

 

Please dont just dismiss this again as a cortese /reed agenda (although now i think about it ,it probably is,but is that so wrong?)i think its open for discussion, as i do have grave doubts about the way we are being run in and around the training ground.

 

My concerns werent with pardew or the team this year,i thought we would definately go up and be close to winning it,that now cant happen for whatever reason,i then changed my view after the wilkins debacle, too many lost points and bound to take the new guy a while to get going,it made me wonder why he (wilkins) escaped the cull!!

 

NA came in espousing the quality of the squad and how pleased he was to inherit it, so my only grouse is with the decision making at the top,cortese knows nothing of running a football club and i dont think the advice he gets from reed stands up to scrutiny....thus far

 

think decision to appoint Adkins could be good one. do you?

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Why have you made this up? The club have said no such thing!

 

mlg, You might not agree with leftbacks views on cortese and reed, but i don't think he has made up any stuff - some of it might be exagerated, third hand or biased against his feelings for cortese, but im pretty certain he is closer than any other poster on here and has certainly had some dealings with cortese.

 

I have a guess who i think he is (Not Franny), but don't dismiss him out of hand

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think decision to appoint Adkins could be good one. do you?

 

I dont think it will be, simply because he is known as 'nervous Nige" in the game and is also known to be indecisive. The flip side of this is obviously there is nothing wrong with being nervous,as long as it does not manifest into anxiousness, which is bloody contageous in the dressing room,..... and taking your time to come to the correct decision is always better than rushing a wrong one!!

KNOWING what cortese is like I dont think it will be, as the amount of pressure and interference cortese applies makes it very difficult ,thats not to say that I dont think he is not a good and successful manager.

 

on another matter,the developement (ex reserves) squad was first put upon the staff at the training ground around february last year,that was when all the "marquee" games were put on the table,AC/Inter Milan,all premier clubs,an Italian tour etc etc.

 

pulling out of the reserves is reeds baby and cortese has picked it up and run with it, but other than the fulham fixture i think it is a poor decision as the quality of opposition has been grim. I know the senior players who are not playing regularly are not happy about it.

reed had to come up with something ground breaking when he was employed to oversee the infrastucture last sesson, and filling cortese' head with the developement squad nonsense was a good move to justify himself, as its one of those projects that 'will bear fruit in the long run". To me this is open ended and therefore impossible to judge and leaves reed a long period of non-culpability (is that a word??)

 

load of cobblers, lets be able to watch our reserves, lets be able to see the youngsters coming through,lets be able to see them competing in a league,they, and we want to compete at all levels.

Developement is fine, but have that up to the u21s and make those games irregular,uncompetitive and behind closed doors if you like, but dont lose out on the next vital step up....competitive reserve team football.

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