BBC state Pardew get Newcastle job within 24 hrs.

[Paul Chuckle]

Is this bad news for us?

 

Could he come in and take Lallana straight away in January :-/

[Colinjb]

Why use Lallana when you can just HOOF it to Andy Carroll?

[doddisalegend]

well if he gets a PL job kind of puts paid to the whole not good enough for us theroy, don't know if Adam would want to go to Newcastle bit far north for a south coast boy (I hope).

[Saint_Jonny]

Who the **** do Newcastle think they are? Hughton had done a FANTASTIC job at Newcastle. Another case if them thinking they are better and bigger than they are. They just got promoted and are 4 points clear of the drop, in the premier league. Pardew will go there and do a better job? I don't think so.

[Window Cleaner]

Is this bad news for us?

 

Could he come in and take Lallana straight away in January :-/

 

Any of our players would jump at the chance to play for a club like Newcastle, wouldn't reflect on it for a nanosecond.

Doubt if AP will get the job though, unless he of course engineered his own dismissal with that job in mind.

[Dalek2003]

well if he gets a PL job kind of puts paid to the whole not good enough for us theroy, don't know if Adam would want to go to Newcastle bit far north for a south coast boy (I hope).

 

Ner, we have a history of preferring League 1 managers over Premier and even successful international managers.

[Matthew Le God]

and even successful international managers.

 

If that is a hint to Hoddle, I think you are stretching it to say he was successful as an international manager.

[Thedelldays]

yeah..can really imagine the loony toon fans warming to another member of the "cockney mafia"

 

they want one of their own...so shearer (lol) and lee clark it is

[John B]

I doubt whether Pardew would get as he has nothing exceptional in his career to warrant a top job

 

Afterall they have had Keegan Shearer Robson and Allardyce in recent years

[Andy_Porter]

I doubt whether Pardew would get as he has nothing exceptional in his career to warrant a top job

 

Afterall they have had Keegan Shearer Robson and Allardyce in recent years

 

It's not a top job anymore. Also lol at including Shearer in that list.

 

In recent years they've also had Joe Kinnear...

[Stu Man Do]

Any of our players would jump at the chance to play for a club like Newcastle, wouldn't reflect on it for a nanosecond.

Doubt if AP will get the job though, unless he of course engineered his own dismissal with that job in mind.

 

He really engineered his dismissal for a job thats come up 3 months after he was sacked here? Thats bloody clever! Judging by alot of fans views on here he just isnt that good tactically surely? ;-)

[Thedelldays]

pardew being linked as favourite is more than likely his own agent raising his profile seeing he has now been out of t he game a few months..

[MINIBARCELONASAINT]

Would explain why Newcastle are linked with Waigo on the BBC Gossip page.

[Prince Jazzbo]

pardew being linked as favourite is more than likely his own agent raising his profile seeing he has now been out of t he game a few months..

 

A bit like Paul Hart's agent did, when the job came up here.

[SuperSAINT]

Won't there be about 30 favourites announced over the next few days?

[SparkySaint]

Ner, we have a history of preferring League 1 managers over Premier and even successful international managers.

 

Successful international Managers. Clearly you mean Jan Poortvliet

[SparkySaint]

Joe Kinnear

Iain Dowie

Chris Hughton

 

The obvious successor is Dave Bassett. i wonder what odds you'd get on that happening

[Kenilworthy]

I bet Poyet will be in the frame

[up and away]

Is this bad news for us?

 

Could he come in and take Lallana straight away in January :-/

 

Just because Pardew gives it the Yes Sir, me Sir, routine before the seat is cold, is no indication that he will even be interviewed. Bad news for us? you would be better off with a tenuous link to the cricket.

[SNSUN]

I think it's disgusting they've sacked Hughton, totally disgusting. He's come in, got them promoted, got them mid-table in the Premiership then sack him to bring in a big name. I don't mind Newcastle but I genuinely hope they go down now. They've been itching to get rid of him for weeks. What did they expect, winning the Premiership at the first time of asking? Disgusting.

[saint_bert]

Martin Jol has left Ajax tonight. Reckon thats a done deal.

[hasper57saint]

I think it's disgusting they've sacked Hughton, totally disgusting. He's come in, got them promoted, got them mid-table in the Premiership then sack him to bring in a big name. I don't mind Newcastle but I genuinely hope they go down now. They've been itching to get rid of him for weeks. What did they expect, winning the Premiership at the first time of asking? Disgusting.

 

This

[Thedelldays]

it will probably be Jol...then he will do better and the old gaffer will be long forgotton

[dickyhale]

Ajax says Martin Jol has quit as coach of the struggling Dutch now 5/4 fav to take charge of Newcastle

Edited 6 December, 2010 by dickyhale

[Badger]

it will probably be Jol...then he will do better and the old gaffer will be long forgotton

 

Good choice for them.

[Chez]

if Glenn Roader can be manager anyone can

[Doctoroncall]

But will the new man have money to spent as Hughton didn't. I believe he was told it was frees and loans so he's done a good job. I cannot see Lallana going up there, better to see out his contract this summer. I just hope we get promoted which may persuade him to stay.

Edited 7 December, 2010 by Doctoroncall

[doddisalegend]

I think it's disgusting they've sacked Hughton, totally disgusting. He's come in, got them promoted, got them mid-table in the Premiership then sack him to bring in a big name. I don't mind Newcastle but I genuinely hope they go down now. They've been itching to get rid of him for weeks. What did they expect, winning the Premiership at the first time of asking? Disgusting.

 

thank god our club would never do anything so crass.

[Smirking_Saint]

If they have really sacked Hughton for Pardew then it really is madness up on tyneside.

[georgeweahscousin]

I was a fan of Pardew here, but will be stunned if he gets the Newcastle job.

 

Martin Jol will get it surely?

[doddisalegend]

Have we ever sacked a manager who got us promoted to the top flight?

 

Not sure we've ever sacked a manager to gain promotion have we? Although how many promotions have we even had in our history...

 

No we sacked one who won us our first trophy in 34 years, but as it's not a promotion I suppose it doesn't count. The days when fans cared about cups over just being in the PL are long gone these days everyone would rather be fourth from bottom in the PL than win a cup.

[doddisalegend]

Why? Being good enough for us can be judged solely on what he did for us. How does being good or **** at Newcastle change that? Many managers are good are getting jobs, like Souness who continued to walk into decent jobs despite being ****e in nearly all of them.

 

Far rather Pardew was at Newcastle than here, that's for sure.

 

Each to there own. Best season of football in years for me under AP last year this year by comparrassion has been very poor so far. If we're juding soley what he did for us then he did a good job. The idea he played terrible long ball football is false. Funnily enough we're playing the same style of football under Nigel but apparently now we look like Barca everytime we come on the pitch according to some on here.

[Ken Tone]

Hasn't Tony Adams's agent installed him as favourite yet? Must be slipping!

[Saint_Ash]

Sven has come out and said he's always been a Newcastle supporter and his mum is a Geordie!

[KK the 2nd]

The obvious successor is Dave Bassett. i wonder what odds you'd get on that happening

Mike Bassett more like! Couldn't see either in the betting but would you believe a couple of firms have Dennis Wise in at 33/1!

 

Pardew still favourite around Evens with Jol second avourite around 2/1. I would be staggered if Pardew got the job but the bookies think so. None of this makes any sense to me.

[buctootim]

I would be staggered if Pardew got the job but the bookies think so. None of this makes any sense to me.

 

According to the press Newcastle will go for the first 'name' they can get their hands on.

[saint1977]

Looks like Jol then. Disgusting sacking and very unfair in my view, not sure what more Hughton could have done, particularly after walloping Sunderland 5-1 and Villa 6-0. The players seemed to respect him but as we know in football, if Jol gets funds to spend and they make a bright start, the anger over this sacking will evaporate. I still think it is wrong though.

[georgeweahscousin]

For those with twitter have a look at Brian McNally(@McNallyMirror) from the Mirror's comments regarding Pardew/Saints/Newcastle:-

 

"Pardew lostSouthampton job because of dressing room unrest. But only 13 per cent of fans in a local paper poll felt sack was right. #nufc"

 

"Were fans the only part of Soton he didn't fall out with? Unsavoury reports re players & wives, poor relationship with staff"

 

"Could not possibly comment on Mr Pardew's alleged relationships with the bottle or birds.No barrier to a job at #nufc surely?."

 

As much as that era is gone, my curiosity is desperate to know exactly what happened here.

[Smirking_Saint]

No we sacked one who won us our first trophy in 34 years, but as it's not a promotion I suppose it doesn't count. The days when fans cared about cups over just being in the PL are long gone these days everyone would rather be fourth from bottom in the PL than win a cup.

 

I am not being funny Doddsi, because it was a good day out. But i hardly call the JPT as a first trophy in 34 years, i literally will not be talking about winning it again if/when we are promoted and even now when talking to other team supporting mates and they ask me what we have done in the past few years i still have to s****** a little when i say the JPT.

 

We are hardly up there with any esteemed winners.

 

* 1983–84: Bournemouth

* 1984–85: Wigan Athletic

* 1985–86: Bristol City

* 1986–87: Mansfield Town

* 1987–88: Wolverhampton Wanderers

* 1988–89: Bolton Wanderers

* 1989–90: Tranmere Rovers

* 1990–91: Birmingham City

* 1991–92: Stoke City

* 1992–93: Port Vale

 

 

 

* 1993–94: Swansea City

* 1994–95: Birmingham City

* 1995–96: Rotherham United

* 1996–97: Carlisle United

* 1997–98: Grimsby Town

* 1998–99: Wigan Athletic

* 1999–00: Stoke City

* 2000–01: Port Vale

* 2001–02: Blackpool

* 2002–03: Bristol City

 

 

 

* 2003–04: Blackpool

* 2004–05: Wrexham

* 2005–06: Swansea City

* 2006–07: Doncaster Rovers

* 2007–08: Milton Keynes Dons

* 2008–09: Luton Town

* 2009–10: Southampton

 

And TBF you can only enter the competition if you are in league 1 or below.

 

Pardew could have got us into the playoffs and failed, he lost the dressing room, didn't sign players needed between this season and the last and IMO was just a long ball merchant.

 

Newcastle are more than welcome to him, rumours follow the man like a bad smell.

[Thedelldays]

For those with twitter have a look at Brian McNally(@McNallyMirror) from the Mirror's comments regarding Pardew/Saints/Newcastle:-

 

"Pardew lostSouthampton job because of dressing room unrest. But only 13 per cent of fans in a local paper poll felt sack was right. #nufc"

 

"Were fans the only part of Soton he didn't fall out with? Unsavoury reports re players & wives, poor relationship with staff"

 

"Could not possibly comment on Mr Pardew's alleged relationships with the bottle or birds.No barrier to a job at #nufc surely?."

 

As much as that era is gone, my curiosity is desperate to know exactly what happened here.

 

 

interesting

[Lord Duckhunter]

I am not being funny Doddsi, because it was a good day out. But i hardly call the JPT as a first trophy in 34 years, i literally will not be talking about winning it again if/when we are promoted and even now when talking to other team supporting mates and they ask me what we have done in the past few years i still have to s****** a little when i say the JPT.

 

We are hardly up there with any esteemed winners.

 

* 1983–84: Bournemouth

* 1984–85: Wigan Athletic

* 1985–86: Bristol City

* 1986–87: Mansfield Town

* 1987–88: Wolverhampton Wanderers

* 1988–89: Bolton Wanderers

* 1989–90: Tranmere Rovers

* 1990–91: Birmingham City

* 1991–92: Stoke City

* 1992–93: Port Vale

 

 

 

* 1993–94: Swansea City

* 1994–95: Birmingham City

* 1995–96: Rotherham United

* 1996–97: Carlisle United

* 1997–98: Grimsby Town

* 1998–99: Wigan Athletic

* 1999–00: Stoke City

* 2000–01: Port Vale

* 2001–02: Blackpool

* 2002–03: Bristol City

 

 

 

* 2003–04: Blackpool

* 2004–05: Wrexham

* 2005–06: Swansea City

* 2006–07: Doncaster Rovers

* 2007–08: Milton Keynes Dons

* 2008–09: Luton Town

* 2009–10: Southampton

 

And TBF you can only enter the competition if you are in league 1 or below.

 

Pardew could have got us into the playoffs and failed, he lost the dressing room, didn't sign players needed between this season and the last and IMO was just a long ball merchant.

 

Newcastle are more than welcome to him, rumours follow the man like a bad smell.

 

 

I agree, I find all this talk of “ trophy” embarrassing. It’s not even taken seriously by the big hitters in League 1 or 2, let alone the rest of football. It was a good day out for my 10 year old and gave him some reward for the rubbish he’ s had to watch since starting to follow football, but it’s not anything to be bragging about.

 

Bloody Hell, had The Skates been banging on about this trophy during the 45 years we were above them, I’d have laughed my nuts off. Let’s have a bit of perspective here, it’s a nothing competition and it doesn’t become a important one just because we won it.

[doddisalegend]

I am not being funny Doddsi, because it was a good day out. But i hardly call the JPT as a first trophy in 34 years, i literally will not be talking about winning it again if/when we are promoted and even now when talking to other team supporting mates and they ask me what we have done in the past few years i still have to s****** a little when i say the JPT.

 

We are hardly up there with any esteemed winners.

 

* 1983–84: Bournemouth

* 1984–85: Wigan Athletic

* 1985–86: Bristol City

* 1986–87: Mansfield Town

* 1987–88: Wolverhampton Wanderers

* 1988–89: Bolton Wanderers

* 1989–90: Tranmere Rovers

* 1990–91: Birmingham City

* 1991–92: Stoke City

* 1992–93: Port Vale

 

 

 

* 1993–94: Swansea City

* 1994–95: Birmingham City

* 1995–96: Rotherham United

* 1996–97: Carlisle United

* 1997–98: Grimsby Town

* 1998–99: Wigan Athletic

* 1999–00: Stoke City

* 2000–01: Port Vale

* 2001–02: Blackpool

* 2002–03: Bristol City

 

 

 

* 2003–04: Blackpool

* 2004–05: Wrexham

* 2005–06: Swansea City

* 2006–07: Doncaster Rovers

* 2007–08: Milton Keynes Dons

* 2008–09: Luton Town

* 2009–10: Southampton

 

And TBF you can only enter the competition if you are in league 1 or below.

 

Pardew could have got us into the playoffs and failed, he lost the dressing room, didn't sign players needed between this season and the last and IMO was just a long ball merchant.

 

Newcastle are more than welcome to him, rumours follow the man like a bad smell.

 

Like I said most fans don't care about the cups any more not even the FA cup. Every season it's the same on here people want to get knocked out so they can concentrate on the league most fans (in most clubs) think finishing fourth in the PL would be better than winning a cup trophy fair enough just one more reason why money has ruined modern football. I will never be embarrased that we won the JPT I may never see saints win anything ever again in my lifetime so for me is a big highlight in my saints supporting life. Really no one should be embarrased by their clubs achviements.

 

As for the Pardew I'm not going over it again but rumours is all there has ever been not one shred of evidence.

[Thedelldays]

doddiy...there is not one shred of evidence about all the bad things said about NC (on here) yet that does not stop you wandering

[Andy_Porter]

Pardew could have got us into the playoffs and failed, he lost the dressing room, didn't sign players needed between this season and the last and IMO was just a long ball merchant.

 

Getting us to the play offs last season would have been a huge acheivment, we dropped far too many points early doors when we had the wrong mentality and where carrying far too many players. We showed League winning for from about November.

 

Didn't seem the the dressing room was lost while we put four past Bristol Rovers....

 

Had 500K or so to spend and adressed the main problem position which was right back and also bought in a decent left sided player, who knows how much of a budget was available to him?

 

I'm not sure why everyone on here is so quick to have a pop at Pardew, he's gone and we've got someone else in will hopefully take us up. For me I'll remember Pardew for being the manager who turned us around after years of going backwards. It's similar to when Pearson left and he got slated by a fair percentage of fans when in reality he done a great job in the circumstances.

[Smirking_Saint]

Like I said most fans don't care about the cups any more not even the FA cup. Every season it's the same on here people want to get knocked out so they can concentrate on the league most fans (in most clubs) think finishing fourth in the PL would be better than winning a cup trophy fair enough just one more reason why money has ruined modern football. I will never be embarrased that we won the JPT I may never see saints win anything ever again in my lifetime so for me is a big highlight in my saints supporting life. Really no one should be embarrased by their clubs achviements.

 

As for the Pardew I'm not going over it again but rumours is all there has ever been not one shred of evidence.

 

I am not so much embarrassed, it just pales into insignificance if you are a club with any ambition whatsoever, not only that but i believe that Pardew concentrated too heavily on getting us to Wembley and so in his mind justifying a dull and failed season IMO. We should have been at wembley for a playoff final, not the tin pot trophy. In fact even now, after winning it give me a 1/4 shot at the playoffs and not that trophy.

 

As for Pardew, i understand that but these rumours appear from everywhere, wherever he manages he is always sacked under a bit of a cloud and its not just the messageboards where these rumours bubble up from as they also ripple in the media aswell.

[Thedelldays]

Getting us to the play offs last season would have been a huge acheivment, we dropped far too many points early doors when we had the wrong mentality and where carrying far too many players. We showed League winning for from about November.

 

Didn't seem the the dressing room was lost while we put four past Bristol Rovers....

 

Had 500K or so to spend and adressed the main problem position which was right back and also bought in a decent left sided player, who knows how much of a budget was available to him?

 

I'm not sure why everyone on here is so quick to have a pop at Pardew, he's gone and we've got someone else in will hopefully take us up. For me I'll remember Pardew for being the manager who turned us around after years of going backwards. It's similar to when Pearson left and he got slated by a fair percentage of fans when in reality he done a great job in the circumstances.

 

all fair comments..for me, we blew our chances of playoffs...and we very much had a real chance IMO..

poor losses away to very poor teams and the constant blaming of the pitches we played on..

 

the oldham game at home hit it for me when it was clear he lost all ideas...bringing james on then taking him off was..eer, odd

 

but he did well...certainly not the messiah and I hope he goes on to good things in his career

[Smirking_Saint]

Getting us to the play offs last season would have been a huge acheivment, we dropped far too many points early doors when we had the wrong mentality and where carrying far too many players. We showed League winning for from about November.

 

Didn't seem the the dressing room was lost while we put four past Bristol Rovers....

 

Had 500K or so to spend and adressed the main problem position which was right back and also bought in a decent left sided player, who knows how much of a budget was available to him?

 

I'm not sure why everyone on here is so quick to have a pop at Pardew, he's gone and we've got someone else in will hopefully take us up. For me I'll remember Pardew for being the manager who turned us around after years of going backwards. It's similar to when Pearson left and he got slated by a fair percentage of fans when in reality he done a great job in the circumstances.

 

Pearson did ok, he kept us up, and TBF a new manager always galvanises the dressing room but did he do a godlike job ? No, but then you can understand the hero worship as he did keep us up but mainly as those around us also failed.

 

Pardew wasn't the one that 'turned us around' don't mistake groundbreaking management to the fact that we were taken out of the dark place we were in and money was thrown at the club, hell, look at Man City, did Sven/Hughes/Mancini provide their turnaround ?? No, the money did.

 

Pardew failed to buy another CM that we were crying out for since before the January window and also failed to purchase a lambert reserve/replacement.

 

He did a good job getting Richardson and Dickson looks a boody buy yes but IMO thats only 1 out of 3 postions.

 

Bristol Rovers ?? Did we look like anything before that ? Or directly after ? No, thats why that IMO seems like a bit of a fluke result.

[saint_bert]

I really believed we should have gone up last season. Took alot of grief from my circle of friends as I was quite vocal in criticising AP. The chase died for me when, as we were smashing Bristol Rovers away, Huddersfield copiltulated, then rose back from the dead. It was inevitable we would then draw with Oldham. Shame really as I think if we had gone up last year, the feel good factor that was created would probably carried us on to making a fist for promotion in the Championship.

[jam]

For those with twitter have a look at Brian McNally(@McNallyMirror) from the Mirror's comments regarding Pardew/Saints/Newcastle:-

 

"Pardew lostSouthampton job because of dressing room unrest. But only 13 per cent of fans in a local paper poll felt sack was right. #nufc"

 

"Were fans the only part of Soton he didn't fall out with? Unsavoury reports re players & wives, poor relationship with staff"

 

"Could not possibly comment on Mr Pardew's alleged relationships with the bottle or birds.No barrier to a job at #nufc surely?."

 

As much as that era is gone, my curiosity is desperate to know exactly what happened here.

 

Maybe worth noting that the second comment wasn't the mirror journo's own - just a retweet.

[Andy_Porter]

Pardew wasn't the one that 'turned us around' don't mistake groundbreaking management to the fact that we were taken out of the dark place we were in and money was thrown at the club, hell, look at Man City, did Sven/Hughes/Mancini provide their turnaround ?? No, the money did.

 

Pardew failed to buy another CM that we were crying out for since before the January window and also failed to purchase a lambert reserve/replacement.

 

He did a good job getting Richardson and Dickson looks a boody buy yes but IMO thats only 1 out of 3 postions.

 

Bristol Rovers ?? Did we look like anything before that ? Or directly after ? No, thats why that IMO seems like a bit of a fluke result.

 

Considering how Pardew noticed and sorted our transfer targets prior to this summer I find it very hard to believe he thought Butterfield, Richardson and Dickson would be enough going into the season. I just think that was all of our budget gone, or at least all of the budget made available to Pardew. Prehaps Cortese didn't trust him after the players he bought and failed to gain promotion, who knows, either way I don't think Pardew would over look the need for an attacking midfielder or cover for Lambert.

 

I actually thought we started the season in quite good form, obviously the points wheren't coming but we had some good performances, we created so many good headed chances against Plymouth it was just unfortunate we didn't score one before they got their lucky goal. Beating Bournemouth was a good result and the performance against Bolton was encouraging despite the result, for large periods we played the ball around a lot better than they did. Orient was the only real poor performance and in all honest we should have won that.

 

We will have to disagree about Pardew turning around our fortunes, you can throw money at a club and not improve but Pardew really knew the sort of player we needed, Hammond, Jaidi, Harding are the three who spring to mind, fantastic signings which helped stabalize the club.

 

I'm not even a massive Pardew fan tbh... I just don't understand such negative views towards his tenure here =/