doggface Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 My cousin-in-law is a freelance journalist and was at the launch of the new predator boot today. In the company of Nani, kaka, rvp among others was our own oxlade-chamberlain along with his "entourage". Knowing that I am a saints obsessive I urged my cuz to see if he could get the low down. He did not get to speak to oxo but did have a chat with a number of journos there. The concensus was that in January a 10ml deal was extremely close with arsenal (this would tie in given some of wengers comments in jan) however apparently Cortese pulled the plug for unknown reasons at the last minute. Then close to deadline day Fergie came in for Oxo and Cortese said £15ml and he's yours. That was a non starter but apparently fergie told oxo's people that he would be back in the summer. I take everything i hear with a pinch of salt and it will be a quiet summer for these journos. However, it is a little different printing a story in a newspaper to fill inches/sell papers than it is having a chat with colleagues and peers. Personally I would like to see him stay, and there clearly is a chance. If he was to leave I think united would be a good club for him. Whatever happens I think it is a win win situation for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 15 million? Sell sell sell!!!!!! Personally, I want shot of him. All these rumours, whispers etc are detracting from the TEAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Don't get me wrong, I would rather keep him than sell him, but if we did sell him for silly money then so be it. We get 10-15 million for a player we can clearly do without (judging by the last 3 months of the season) and can use it to get some really good players in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 15 million is well worth it. SELL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Or we keep him and get some really good players in anyway. That is obviously better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 When we do sell I hope that the buyers will pay the complete fee upfront. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 When we do sell I hope that the buyers will pay the complete fee upfront. not a chance in hell this is mental £15m for a player with a great half season in division 3 or £6m for a javier hernandez no wonder we have SO many foreign player over here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huntingdon Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 £15Million is an outrageous amount of money, that's what Marcus bought the club for! Now we're in the NPC, we have a stronger base to negotiate from, especially with regards to him potentially being loaned back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Read the OP £15M isn't what has been offered for him, it's what we were apparently asking for him. No one has been prepared to match that (yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Read the OP £15M isn't what has been offered for him, it's what we were apparently asking for him. No one has been prepared to match that (yet). even £10m for a player with a half good division 3 season behind him is mental..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy_D Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 I suspect the £10M offered by Arsenal would have been £5M up front and the rest add ons. Still a huge amount of money, but less than we want (or need!) for a player so highly rated. It does feel awfully good to be in such a position of financial power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 £15Million is an outrageous amount of money, that's what Marcus bought the club for! And they say that no one player is worth more then the club the play for. Could we be the first club to bust that notion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Read the OP £15M isn't what has been offered for him, it's what we were apparently asking for him. No one has been prepared to match that (yet). And as has already been said, its an insane amount of money for a lad from league 1. Its comforting to think we are finally able to turn down offers for our young players if we think they are of more value to us than the offer tabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints67 Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 If they put £20m on the table then Saints will open negotiations.........after that a further £20m and they can talk to Oxo. Then we see if both parties can agree a fee Personally I want Arsenal and Man Utd to F off and we can get a season or two out of him before the big teams take all the credit for 'finding and developing' him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 £30mn and then we'll start talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 even £10m for a player with a half good division 3 season behind him is mental..... It's a lot of money, but you must see the potential in this lad surely? Not quite the same but Bale went for £10m after one season in the CCC. Fabian Delph went for £6m and he never had the same potential as Chamberlain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 IS IT DEAL OR NO DEAL? as the beardey one would say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holepuncture Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 no less than £20m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 To be honest, I want him to stay but in terms of the TEAM and promotion etc. he was injured for so long we'd have gone up anyway on our amazing run and have money to strengthen with team players. He's going to go sometime lets be honest, so lets get as much as we can for him. I certainly hope he doesn't any "want-away" tactics and if he's straight and narrow during the deal then it will mean the best for all of us. I think what I'm trying to say is that under the old regime I would expect the money to go into dividends and a load of ****e players on low wages. Under the new regime I would expect the money to go on a pacy centre-back, and some Champ / low end PL players - maybe on free transfers but allocating transfer fees for wages over the length of the contract. Having said all that, I would *really* want him to give us a season in the prem..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 My cousin-in-law is a freelance journalist and was at the launch of the new predator boot today. In the company of Nani, kaka, rvp among others was our own oxlade-chamberlain along with his "entourage". Knowing that I am a saints obsessive I urged my cuz to see if he could get the low down. He did not get to speak to oxo but did have a chat with a number of journos there. The concensus was that in January a 10ml deal was extremely close with arsenal (this would tie in given some of wengers comments in jan) however apparently Cortese pulled the plug for unknown reasons at the last minute. Then close to deadline day Fergie came in for Oxo and Cortese said £15ml and he's yours. That was a non starter but apparently fergie told oxo's people that he would be back in the summer. I take everything i hear with a pinch of salt and it will be a quiet summer for these journos. However, it is a little different printing a story in a newspaper to fill inches/sell papers than it is having a chat with colleagues and peers. Personally I would like to see him stay, and there clearly is a chance. If he was to leave I think united would be a good club for him. Whatever happens I think it is a win win situation for us. This is what I heard, from a very good source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 15 million is ridiculous. Sell at once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Sell him for 20 million.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Fergie said in February that he tried to sign a player but his club wanted too much and he would revisit it in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dune Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 If he wants to go he'll go, but if we can retain him and we're serious about getting into the top flight and being a force there then we have to refuse any offer. Saints publicly turning down 15 mil would be a clear statement of intent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Ah ha, it all becomes clear OXO is off to Man U for 10mil plus Michael Owen (with his wages paid for the first season) and their two best youngsters on loan to us for a season. Makes perfect sense now especially after Owen was seen house hunting in a helicopter taxi or whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Oh I alomost forgot Dear Nicola. Three words SELL-ON CLAUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 30MM and Michael Owen. I don't even think Oxo is that good but I do play poker, ya know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 He went to Chelsea for £6 million on my Football Manager game. Just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 When we do sell I hope that the buyers will pay the complete fee upfront. not a chance in hell this is mental £15m for a player with a great half season in division 3 or £6m for a javier hernandez no wonder we have SO many foreign player over here Why should we not hold out for the full fee up front? We are the vendors, 'they' want him then 'they' must find a way to pay for him. I don't see why we can't break that practice. Not going to disagree with you about the actual fee, that's for people with more nous than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st alex Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Why does anyone what to sell him? the money's useless unless we can buy players with it. The understanding is that we already have money to buy players with and £10/15 million will not really really make much difference to our transfer budget, look at when we had Burley and spent £9 million on ****e players like skacel, BWP etc. Oxo's the most exciting player to have been here since Bale & Walcott, I enjoy watching him play and would like to continue doing so for as long as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oejwells Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Have I missed something here ... how come he was rubbing shoulders with Kaka, Nani & Van Persie in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 Have I missed something here ... how come he was rubbing shoulders with Kaka, Nani & Van Persie in the first place? He wasn't rubbing shoulders. They came to get some lessons from him. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leslie Charteris Posted 17 May, 2011 Share Posted 17 May, 2011 There is an awful lot of vapour floating around here. I'll start believing when the solid stuff hits the fan. (Cynical, moi..?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 Fantastic! We haven't had a good Oxo rumour in a couple of months... Let's start a bidding war with Manu and Real Madrid while we're here. I'd love to keep the kid but it's fairly obvious his dad's ambitions for him lie elsewhere, (not surprising given his roots,) if we have to sell him we have to sell him, if not then fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 look at when we had Burley and spent £9 million on ****e players like skacel, BWP etc. Oxo's the most exciting player to have been here since Bale & Walcott, I enjoy watching him play and would like to continue doing so for as long as possible. Did we not come minutes away from a play off final that season? U look at Cardiff spending 4m on chopra alone a few years back we can see what people go for and the money required to get at the right end of the table... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rooney Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 Did we not come minutes away from a play off final that season? U look at Cardiff spending 4m on chopra alone a few years back we can see what people go for and the money required to get at the right end of the table... But it did not work for us and it has'nt for Cardiff again ,despite Bellamy's wages too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulwantsapint Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 Oxo will have some nice new free boots to start the new season with & a large sponsors fee in the bank So stay with saints play 1st team football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St_Tel49 Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 even £10m for a player with a half good division 3 season behind him is mental..... That sort of money would not be paid for what he HAS done but for what this season shows he is likely to be able to do. It would be small in comparison with his likely future value. That is the call that the Wengers and Fergusons of this world have to make. They are not always right but is there anyone on this board who does not think that AOC has a huge future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 Fergie said in February that he tried to sign a player but his club wanted too much and he would revisit it in the summer. Now we are a Championship club does he think the price will come down? I hope this doesn't become the Summer soap-opera. I preferred Paul Allen. Would like this to be sorted quickly either way. I would prefer him to stay, even if silly money was offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFKA South Woodford Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 I can't believe how some of you are so short sighted! We simply must do all we can to keep Chambo, he is going to be the best player to have come out of the academy since Le Tiss in a years time. In my opinion he is a better player than Walcott as he has pace to burn and doesn't get knocked off the ball easily and has great balance, the only thing that can stop him from becoming a world great like Messi will be his own attitude, and as he hasn't showed any signs of pretentiousness as yet, I doubt that will be a problem. For me, he is the most exciting young player in this country, and you could see how much of an improvement he made to our team when he came on against Walsall, hitting the post with a good shot at the end of a great run almost as soon as he set foot on the pitch, and then scoring a great goal and frightening the hell out of the Walsall defence for the rest of the match. If we can find a pacy striker with a good eye for goal over the summer to team up with him, then a play off and even an automatic promotion place would be within our grasp. If, and god forbid Cortese does decide to sell him, we must get top dollar for him and that to me even in todays market means a valuation of around 15 million with a pretty hefty sell on clause. Let's not get done on the fee like we were for Bale, who Spurs are now prepared to listen to offers of over 40 million for, and what did we get for our sell on clause for Bale? Tommy bl**dy Forecast with a five year contract around the clubs neck. Nicola remain firm and don't let Fergie, Abramovich and Whinger bully you, we need to send out a statement of intent, that we are heading for the top and are intent on keeping our best players and adding the best young talent to get there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 i think Ox should not go to Arsenal as i dont think Wenger nurtures the young talent but wastes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 i think Ox should not go to Arsenal as i dont think Wenger nurtures the young talent but wastes it. lol one of the funniest posts I have read in a long time nick, what has got into you lately..used to be a voice of reason..now you seem to have gone all weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 (edited) That sort of money would not be paid for what he HAS done but for what this season shows he is likely to be able to do. It would be small in comparison with his likely future value. That is the call that the Wengers and Fergusons of this world have to make. They are not always right but is there anyone on this board who does not think that AOC has a huge future! No £10m for a player with his first season just out of the way IS mental. So many players built up to be potential world beaters come through the ranks at League One and championship level and look great at that level yet never make it to the heights they were built up to. Jermaine Pennant, Gary McSheffrey, Tom Taiwo, Jason Koumas etc. For every Walcott there are 10 of these, but then Chamberlain is going to be better than Walcott as he has a better football brain and Walcott is just a sprinter who cant cross. LOL!! Edited 18 May, 2011 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 very few (if at all) top NPC players would leave for £10m let alone a player with a very good half season in division 3.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 Why should we not hold out for the full fee up front? We are the vendors, 'they' want him then 'they' must find a way to pay for him. I don't see why we can't break that practice. Not going to disagree with you about the actual fee, that's for people with more nous than me. because in english football...hardly ever does a fee get paid up front... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 £10m now plus 25% sell on fee. and a dozen track suits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 lol one of the funniest posts I have read in a long time nick, what has got into you lately..used to be a voice of reason..now you seem to have gone all weird... it must be the meetings i have had with Dubai Phil. Lol I was a great admirer of Wenger but I believe he has ruined Walcott. By now Walcott should have been one of the best players in the PL , but Wenger seems to knock his confidence by not giving him the full match. You see the young talented players in the Arsenal youth team and how few have really came on to make the grade. That youth system has been in place for a longtime now and is not producing the players i had expected to come through by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 (edited) it must be the meetings i have had with Dubai Phil. Lol I was a great admirer of Wenger but I believe he has ruined Walcott. By now Walcott should have been one of the best players in the PL , but Wenger seems to knock his confidence by not giving him the full match. You see the young talented players in the Arsenal youth team and how few have really came on to make the grade. That youth system has been in place for a longtime now and is not producing the players i had expected to come through by now. why should walcott be one of the best players..he had half a good season in division 2... wenger is probably in the top 3 in world football of bringing young players to at least a european level...at least.. why do saints fans think our players should be the "best" after a handful of matches outside of the top flight...oxo now being the next one... bale has done well...maybe bale is a better player than walcott...unless you think arry has pulled a master stoke.....? yet bale has been poor for half a season this year.... as for "few" young players at arsenal making the grade..?..are you ACTUALLY mental..? clichy ramsey fabragas song wilshere..ffs, WILSHERE van persie to an extent nasri to an extent walcott in the recent past you had... anelka henry ljundberg viera jesus, cant believe this is even a debate not bad really...ffs Edited 18 May, 2011 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 (edited) Jack Wilshire, Fabriegas, Aaron Ramsey, Clichy, Eboue, Bendtner, Song, Nasri, Diarby, not forgetting the likes of Gibbs, Lansbury & Frimpong on the fringes of the first team snf been out on loan this season. What sort of players are you expecting it to produce? Edited 18 May, 2011 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 18 May, 2011 Share Posted 18 May, 2011 Question is how much value Arsenal added to those players - (they weren't developed from scratch as other clubs did the hard work) - and whether competitors could have got as much, if not more out of them. Arguably, Man U has a more impressive youth set-up than Arsenal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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