Ambitious signings !

[saint peter]

Whilst I appreciate it's still early days in the transfer market, I just wonder how many quality squad additions Saints are likely to put bids in for ? Bearing in mind West Ham look likely to sign the Newcastle captain Kevin Nolan, I just wonder if we are actively looking for this calibre of player ??? (especially bearing in mind West Ham are strapped for cash) ... I remain hopeful !!!

[Turkish]

Thierry Henry, wants to finish his career in England, we are interested apparantly.

[EBS1980]

Don't know why everyone is so worried about the lack of signings. Players contracts don't expire until end of the month, i reckon there will be a lot of transfers announced in the first week of July when clubs formally announce signings of players who were out of contract.

 

I'd like to think we will have a couple in before the start of pre season.

[Hatch]

I've heard Michael Owen mentioned.

 

Not sure where.

[Huntingdon]

I suspect only West Ham could have tempted Nolan to the NPC

 

He made his name under Allardyce at Bolton, and I'm assuming that was a major factor in dropping down a division

[Big_Bald_Si]

Reckon that Lionel Messi would be fairly ambitious - given we want to be Barcelona, it'd be a good start

[Saint Garrett]

Aaron Ramsey? Jonny Evans? McEachran? Darron Gibson? Guthrie?

 

Just throwing names out there...

[kelkel31]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_6990960,00.html

 

Jimmy Bullard

 

yes not a great age, maybe concerned with wages and what it could do to squad but a fit Bullard playing in front of morgan would be a top notch signing

 

+ he a charactor that can really get the dressing room going

[Doctoroncall]

Nolan will be on £55k a season. That would be crazy for Saints to stretch to that sort of amount. Even half that, the player would have to be special to justify the expenditure.

[Dan Johnson]

+1 would love to see him here

[Dan Johnson]

Bullard that is

[Stepgar]

I've heard Michael Owen mentioned.

 

Not sure where.

 

Do f?!k off

[saint lard]

West Ham have signed Faye,Nolan and are today likely to sign Ricardo Gardener,Big sam getting in tried and tested players not only in the Championship but could do a job in a first season back in the Premier League.

In my view this is very good forward planning and something i am hoping we are going to aim for.

All very well if we sign top players from league 1,Pilkington,Peltier but these are possibly short term signings as it would be a huge gamble relying on these to perform in the Prem,if and when we get there.

Stability is key and the less upheaval the better,we should be looking at players in key areas that can hold their own for a season in the Prem.

I know we need a mixture of youth and experience,but lets plan for the longterm,not gamble solely on ones that could 'possibly 'step up a level.

Anyway we could be doing all sorts behind the scenes.

All imo.

[doddisalegend]

There is two ways saints can go with this. We can go for big name players with PL experince but that will cost a packet in pay, and if I'm honest frenquently come across as only in it for the money big time charlies, or we can go for unproven at highr level talent from the lower leagues who will be happy with more sensible wages and grateful for the chance to play for a good club like saints, though at the risk they can't hack it at a higher level.

 

Personally I'm all for the later, I'd rather see slighty less talented players play for saints with pride and passion than over paid mercs with no interest. Then again I'm in no hurry to get back to the PL so I'm sure plenty will disagree with me.

[Badger]

West Ham have signed Faye,Nolan and are today likely to sign Ricardo Gardener,Big sam getting in tried and tested players not only in the Championship but could do a job in a first season back in the Premier League.

In my view this is very good forward planning and something i am hoping we are going to aim for.

All very well if we sign top players from league 1,Pilkington,Peltier but these are possibly short term signings as it would be a huge gamble relying on these to perform in the Prem,if and when we get there.

Stability is key and the less upheaval the better,we should be looking at players in key areas that can hold their own for a season in the Prem.

I know we need a mixture of youth and experience,but lets plan for the longterm,not gamble solely on ones that could 'possibly 'step up a level.

Anyway we could be doing all sorts behind the scenes.

All imo.

 

Agree with most of your point but not that these two would be short term signings. On the contrary infact, as I think both have potential,and in Pilkington's case fully expect him to reach the Prem and perform there.

[a1ex2001]

I would much rather we slowly built towards success than gambled vast sums of money and risked another spectacular and costly failure. Nolan would never have joined us he's only gone to West Ham besause Big Sam has some weird hold over him!

[Soggy Bottom]

Agree with most of your point but not that these two would be short term signings. On the contrary infact, as I think both have potential,and in Pilkington's case fully expect him to reach the Prem and perform there.

 

 

I agree, I think our plan is to buy, up and coming players and turn them into prem stars.

[Professor]

Despite some people saying that West Ham are struggling financially, the actions of Sullivan and Gold in securing Allardyce and backing him with big money suggests that one promotion spot is already booked for next season. As a replacement for Parker, they could hardly do better than Nolan with his leadership reputation.

COYS, we've got to compete here.

PS - Sorry adriansfc but Nolan is 28, 29 next week. Still in his prime and could yet play for another 5 or 6 years.

Edited 16 June, 2011 by Professor

[alpine_saint]

All I know is the season ended a month ago, pre-season probably starts in a couple of weeks, and we have done our usual f*ck-all by this time...

 

Yes, yes, lets see what the PL teams decide about their purchases and players surplus-to-requirement first , at least we havent got a WC to use as an excuse this season...

[Itchen_block4]

There is two ways saints can go with this. We can go for big name players with PL experince but that will cost a packet in pay, and if I'm honest frenquently come across as only in it for the money big time charlies, or we can go for unproven at highr level talent from the lower leagues who will be happy with more sensible wages and grateful for the chance to play for a good club like saints, though at the risk they can't hack it at a higher level.

 

Personally I'm all for the later, I'd rather see slighty less talented players play for saints with pride and passion than over paid mercs with no interest. Then again I'm in no hurry to get back to the PL so I'm sure plenty will disagree with me.

 

Same. The risks of spending very heavily are worse than the risks of not spending heavily. It's also worth looking at the parachute wedge that clubs inevitably risk on trying to go back up. We can't compete with that, but we can compete by wanting it more on the pitch. That's what the Football League is about, it hasn't been monopolised my the money giants yet.

[The9]

There's a handy shortlist of Premier League free transfers here : WARNING, PDF !

 

http://www.premierleague.com/staticFiles/14/79/0,,12306~162068,00.pdf

[Window Cleaner]

SOURCE?

 

Who told you we've done fck all? If we've not got a list of targets, haven't made enquiries, bids, talked to agents, assessed free transfers, talked budgets etc., then I'm as disgusted as you.

 

we have probably done quite a lot but as it seems that making the poor punter wait avidly for every drip of information is now official club policy I guess we'll just have to wait on a bit longer to find out about it all.

 

 

Season tickets, shirts, players,teams for the MLMT it's all wait and see so that one is so impatient when it is revealed it seems like a jolly good thing even if it's not so much.I don't particularly care for this secret squirrel policy that we've adopted but there you go.

[Glasgow_Saint]

I would much rather we build a team and develop over the next 3 to 4 year and get promoted in 2015/6 rather than buy good players now and get promoted this year.

[Soggy Bottom]

Craddock

Gabbidon

Koumas

Mcfadden

Hargreaves (if only)

[Wadge]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_6990960,00.html

 

Jimmy Bullard

 

yes not a great age, maybe concerned with wages and what it could do to squad but a fit Bullard playing in front of morgan would be a top notch signing

 

+ he a charactor that can really get the dressing room going

 

Only problem with him is that Ipswich couldn't afford his wages, so he must be on a right packet.

[Matthew Le God]

We have done our usual f*ck-all by this time.

 

How do you know that?

[Dibden Purlieu Saint]

Craddock

Gabbidon

Koumas

Mcfadden

Hargreaves (if only)

 

Would only take one of the bottom 2 of them.

 

Koumas has struggled for Cardiff this season, and Craddock and Gabbidon really aren't great players.

[Window Cleaner]

Only problem with him is that Ipswich couldn't afford his wages, so he must be on a right packet.

 

 

 

Isn't he supposed to be on 60K a week, think it's fairly well established to be the case.

 

Ridiculous money for a player of his standard.

 

In fact anything over 20K/week for a player outside the EPL is just plain stupid.The clubs just do not have the revenues to support anything more, which is why the Football league meeting the other day had,for its main agenda,a discussion on reducing debt in the Championship.NPC clubs are something like 800 million £ in debt in total.

 

That's about 35 million £ per club and some clubs have very little debt.When you consider that most first class grade A champions league standard sides in Continental Europe have less debt than say Hull or Cardiff you have to admit that it's a problem. Ridiculously overpaid garbage brought SFC o the verge of extinction and and it should never happen to us again no matter how rich our backers are thought to be.This is why I don't want to see any of this overpaid ex prem shîte at SFC next season, if they take reasonable terms so much the better but if not, well we'll have to look farther afield.

Edited 16 June, 2011 by Window Cleaner

[PhilippineSaint]

Nolan will be on £55k a season. That would be crazy for Saints to stretch to that sort of amount. Even half that, the player would have to be special to justify the expenditure.

 

Just over a grand a week a bargain at twice the price

[doddisalegend]

Isn't he supposed to be on 60K a week, think it's fairly well established to be the case.

 

Ridiculous money for a player of his standard.

 

In fact anything over 20K/week for a player outside the EPL is just plain stupid.The clubs just do not have the revenues to support anything more, which is why the Football league meeting the other day had,for its main agenda,a discussion on reducing debt in the Championship.NPC clubs are something like 800 million £ in debt in total.

 

That's about 35 million £ per club and some clubs have very little debt.When you consider that most first class grade A champions league standard sides in Continental Europe have less debt than say Hull or Cardiff you have to admit that it's a problem. Ridiculously overpaid garbage brought SFC o the verge of extinction and and it should never happen to us again no matter how rich our backers are thought to be.This is why I don't want to see any of this overpaid ex prem shîte at SFC next season, if they take reasonable terms so much the better but if not, well we'll have to look farther afield.

 

Personally I'd say anything more than £1000 a week for playing football is taking the **** regardless of the league or the player.......

[AndyNorthernSaints]

There's a handy shortlist of Premier League free transfers here : WARNING, PDF !

 

http://www.premierleague.com/staticFiles/14/79/0,,12306~162068,00.pdf

 

From that list wages would be an issue but the following could do a job for Saints this season.

 

Lee Bowyer

James McFadden

Andy Reid

David Jones

Jason Koumas

[Cricketphilly]

Nolan will be on £55k a season. That would be crazy for Saints to stretch to that sort of amount. Even half that, the player would have to be special to justify the expenditure.

 

I earn more that that!

[EBS1980]

Only problem with him is that Ipswich couldn't afford his wages, so he must be on a right packet.

 

I find it amazing Hull didn't have a reduce your wages clause in the contract when they signed him. No wonder they want him out, but who will sign him unless he will slash his wages to move, but then why should he if he can pick up £50K a week by not playing!

[Window Cleaner]

I find it amazing Hull didn't have a reduce your wages clause in the contract when they signed him. No wonder they want him out, but who will sign him unless he will slash his wages to move, but then why should he if he can pick up £50K a week by not playing!

 

Well probably because he wouldn't accept any such thing because he's a greedy bastard and isn't going to get shafted like that. He left Fulham for the wastes of Humberside for money and a fat 5 year contract so it's no surprise that it was a golden boxed deal.That's the problem with places like Hull and Middlesborough, they are such dumps that you have to pay extortionate rates to even get players to consider going there, guess pompey is the same but a bit less isolated, you can always live in Sussex or around Southampton.

[Chez]

I find it amazing Hull didn't have a reduce your wages clause in the contract when they signed him. No wonder they want him out, but who will sign him unless he will slash his wages to move, but then why should he if he can pick up £50K a week by not playing!

 

he wouldn't have gone there if they did. Hull will take £20k a week. Sounds a lot of wedge, but he is top notch. If we should lose Chamberlain he would be worth a shout.

[Chez]

That's the problem with places like Hull and Middlesborough, they are such dumps that you have to pay extortionate rates to even get players to consider going there, guess pompey is the same but a bit less isolated, you can always live in Sussex or around Southampton.

 

Southampton isn't exactly the world's most beautiful city.

[Window Cleaner]

he wouldn't have gone there if they did. Hull will take £20k a week. Sounds a lot of wedge, but he is top notch. If we should lose Chamberlain he would be worth a shout.

 

He's injury prone, going on 33 and no doubt expensive and we should have nothing to do with this sort of player, haven't we learned the lesson that Burley taught us the hard way?

Do we have to sell more young talent (as we did then with Jones and Bale) to pay for this lust for old has beens who'll just turn up and collect their pay an every now and again and hardly ever be fit to play.

[Window Cleaner]

Southampton isn't exactly the world's most beautiful city.

 

 

Probably not, just my memory of it then, mind you I haven't spent above 3 successive days in the old place since 1983ish.

[hughieslastminutegoal]

Don't know why everyone is so worried about the lack of signings. Players contracts don't expire until end of the month, i reckon there will be a lot of transfers announced in the first week of July when clubs formally announce signings of players who were out of contract.

 

I'd like to think we will have a couple in before the start of pre season.

 

How is this "Whilst I appreciate it's still early days in the transfer market, I just wonder how many quality squad additions Saints are likely to put bids in for " an example of "everyone is so worried about the lack of signings". Just wondering isn't worrying, is it?

[peacey]

Id love to get vieria.

[Killers Knee]

Nigel Reo-Coker would be a quality signing

[peacey]

So any news that we are still after the young oldham lad Dale Stephens???

[The9]

From that list wages would be an issue but the following could do a job for Saints this season.

 

Lee Bowyer

James McFadden

Andy Reid

David Jones

Jason Koumas

 

I'd be inclined to think that Bowyer, Reid and Koumas would all be the wrong side of the hill and the last two were barely Prem players for any amount of time even at their best. Reid always had weight problems and fitness, and Koumas has never been more than an occasional West Brom starter in his whole career. Last season he was failing to get into Cardiff's team despite being one of their few welsh players and very popular with the fans.

[StVince1966]

nolan was offered 8k per week here by billionaire backed cortese cash strapped wham offered 28k per week! we as always are poor payers considering we have 12million from chamberlain to spend!

[Matthew Le God]

nolan was offered 8k per week here by billionaire backed cortese cash strapped wham offered 28k per week! we as always are poor payers considering we have 12million from chamberlain to spend!

 

What on earth are you talking about?

[70's Mike]

I would much rather we build a team and develop over the next 3 to 4 year and get promoted in 2015/6 rather than buy good players now and get promoted this year.

 

if only it worked like that

[Saint Fan CaM]

nolan was offered 8k per week here by billionaire backed cortese cash strapped wham offered 28k per week! we as always are poor payers considering we have 12million from chamberlain to spend!

 

Source?

[Saint Fan CaM]

I don't know why there are so many worrying at this point in close season. The good players hold the cards at the moment - they'll not move early unless there's a massively incentivised deal on the table.

 

Also, here's a little suggestion - look back to our time in L1...think about the strategy employed to support the Manager....(let me help - we bought some of the best players from the division and 2-3 from the division above). Now, do you honestly think that Cortese will not employ a similar strategy for the NPC? Risk relegation or not progressing?

 

Nah, nor do I...we'll be strengthening the 1st team alright - just gotta be patient that's all.

[lethallee]

I reckon club will wait until July kicks in before confirming any signings. By then we will have good idea of the market i.e who's available and how much. I sem to remember Pardew revealing this approach during 2010 January transfer window. That's not to say they have not done a lot of ground work already. Like in poker you don't show your hand early. I find it quite refreshing that we are seemingly taking this approach whilst other clubs are busy bringing in lots of new players at inflated prices.

[eurosaint]

All I know is the season ended a month ago, pre-season probably starts in a couple of weeks, and we have done our usual f*ck-all by this time...

 

Yes, yes, lets see what the PL teams decide about their purchases and players surplus-to-requirement first , at least we havent got a WC to use as an excuse this season...

 

I don't remember anyone blaming a toilet for our lack of signings last year !

Am I missing something ??