NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 I have no idea if the rumours linking us with any of these players are true, or if we would be able to sign them over other clubs. However they all seem to be realistic but exciting potential signings. I have seen a fair bit of CMS and not sure he is worth money being spoken about. I don't know much about the other two. read this thread http://www.not606.com/showthread.php/58981-Sharp-or-Maynard/page3 Has anyone here seen enough of them to say who would be best addition to our squad? Maynard seems to be the favorite on that thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 1) Maynard 2) Sharp 3) CMS (In that order) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2011 1) Maynard 2) Sharp 3) CMS (In that order) probably my gut feeling but not based on much knowledge of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintBobby Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 I'd say CMS. Have only seen him play 6 or 7 games, but he looks a cut above. also, think he's the least likely to sign for us unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Durman Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 I know its opinion, but CMS is the better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 I would genuinely take any of them, and I think they'd all be a valuable addition to our strikeforce, which I don't think would then require any further work for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 CMS seems to be able to create something out of nothing, which is an ability we've long lost. Having a goal scorer is great, having a striker great, but having somebody who will fight every minute and can create chances out of nothing, that's invaluable and that is where, IMO, CMS shines. We wont survive the CCC on set pieces alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Sharp and then get keogh CMS unsure if will be as good in higher league Maynard... too expensive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Sharp and then get keogh CMS unsure if will be as good in higher league Maynard... too expensive He was a Championship striker as recently as the 2009/10 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2011 CMS is the oldest and least proven at this level though? I'd like Maynard, Sharp, CMS. Maynard is 3 years younger than CMS and scored more goal than him at this sort of level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2011 He was a Championship striker as recently as the 2009/10 season. only scored 10 in 43 his only season at that level. Most of his career has been conference and league 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 only scored 10 in 43 his only season at that level. Most of his career has been conference and league 2 I know, my point was that he isn't untested at that level (as suggested in the post I quoted). I didn't comment if he was a success or not. In any case 10 goals for a relegated team isn't that bad tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 CMS, absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2011 I know, my point was that he isn't untested at that level (as suggested in the post I quoted). I didn't comment if he was a success or not. In any case 10 goals for a relegated team isn't that bad tbf. not good either! He has clearly improved. Sounds like he is off to West Ham. Personally think he has his limitations and am glad we didn't pay silly money for him in January. These other blokes sound better prospects to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Maynard - fast, explosive and a good shot on him. We havent got that in the team (upfront) and would mix our striking options up a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 I'm a big fan of CMS. Works hard, has pace an is a good finisher - But I couldn't choose him above Maynard or Sharp because those 2 are proven (and are 2 of the best) in the championship. What sort of money are P'boro wanting for CMS? Any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 I'm a big fan of CMS. Works hard, has pace an is a good finisher - But I couldn't choose him above Maynard or Sharp because those 2 are proven (and are 2 of the best) in the championship. What sort of money are P'boro wanting for CMS? Any idea? Round £2.5m-3m I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itchen_block4 Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Papa Waigo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 All 3 IMO ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Round £2.5m-3m I think. Within our range although wages might have risen to unexpected levels if West Ham are sniffing around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2011 its also value for money - how much better is CMS than Lee Barnard - who is little younger and probably apart from last season not hugely different scoring rates. Will swapping CMS for LB improve the team? Probably. Will keeping LB and spending £4m on a CM improve the team more? Quite possibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 CMS seems to be able to create something out of nothing, which is an ability we've long lost. Having a goal scorer is great, having a striker great, but having somebody who will fight every minute and can create chances out of nothing, that's invaluable and that is where, IMO, CMS shines. We wont survive the CCC on set pieces alone. Lallana Lambert Guly Connolly Chamberlain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Put a touch more in and you get Holt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Put a touch more in and you get Holt. A touch more what, pies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 We don't have a chance of signing CMS or Maynard, so Sharp for me, but that's just a rumour anyway. Another pointless thread IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Papa Waigo! ... but to replace Alex if he goes, and although I rate Papa upfront I would prefer any from CMS, Sharp (who I was ranting on about three seasons ago) and Maynard. If we lost Alex, Papa alongside Lambo and Lallana with one of these would be an unbeatable strike force imho. Just add Dans and we'll make a really big impression in the CCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2011 We don't have a chance of signing CMS or Maynard, so Sharp for me, but that's just a rumour anyway. Another pointless thread IMO. why post on it?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Maynard without a shadow of a doubt. He's the quickest of all three and his all round game is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 i wont comment as I have hardly seen any of them play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Sheffield Utd apart, Sharp has a terrific goalscoring record at Championship level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 If the report today that Steve Maclaren is after Maynard for Notts Forest we can probably rule that one out. There could be a chicken and egg situation that quality players are more likely to sign for a club that is demonstrating its ambition by the status of its manager and whether it is actively making signings. Like it or not, NA does not have the status of some of the people now managing in the NpC so the first signing is important and the longer it is left the more the problem may arise that players we want may choose not to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 If the report today that Steve Maclaren is after Maynard for Notts Forest we can probably rule that one out. There could be a chicken and egg situation that quality players are more likely to sign for a club that is demonstrating its ambition by the status of its manager and whether it is actively making signings. Like it or not, NA does not have the status of some of the people now managing in the NpC so the first signing is important and the longer it is left the more the problem may arise that players we want may choose not to come. oh my god.....you do realise we have only just been promoted to this league.. or, there may not be a problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2011 If the report today that Steve Maclaren is after Maynard for Notts Forest we can probably rule that one out. There could be a chicken and egg situation that quality players are more likely to sign for a club that is demonstrating its ambition by the status of its manager and whether it is actively making signings. Like it or not, NA does not have the status of some of the people now managing in the NpC so the first signing is important and the longer it is left the more the problem may arise that players we want may choose not to come. I don't think Adkins will have any problem attracting players - if we show ambition, pay fees etc we will get players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 If the report today that Steve Maclaren is after Maynard for Notts Forest we can probably rule that one out. There could be a chicken and egg situation that quality players are more likely to sign for a club that is demonstrating its ambition by the status of its manager and whether it is actively making signings. Like it or not, NA does not have the status of some of the people now managing in the NpC so the first signing is important and the longer it is left the more the problem may arise that players we want may choose not to come. Thats how I see it too There is a lot of competition in the Championship and a lot of good managers also looking for players so lets hope we have something to offer them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 If the report today that Steve Maclaren is after Maynard for Notts Forest we can probably rule that one out. There could be a chicken and egg situation that quality players are more likely to sign for a club that is demonstrating its ambition by the status of its manager and whether it is actively making signings. Like it or not, NA does not have the status of some of the people now managing in the NpC so the first signing is important and the longer it is left the more the problem may arise that players we want may choose not to come. I was very tempted to post the same, but thought better of it due to the uproar it would cause amongst those who worship at the feet of Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2011 players will be swung by all sorts of factors - fact that Adkins isn't famous is not likely to be one. Typical factors are likely to be; 1) money 2) money 3) money 4) how they think team will do 5) are the team on the way up - something we have over some championship clubs, our manager can give genuine reasons why we are on the way up, can Cardiff, Notts F etc? 6) geography 7) other players there have they played for manager before etc etc Not whether he is famous and glamorous! Adkins does seem to be popular with players, the team spirit appears better than I can remember it - easy when winning and doing so impressive as Adkins did. Some in the game may have noticed this http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/mpl-league.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Maynard but quite a long way! has the pace we need - and a great scoring record in the Championship - also has the ability to step up to the Premier League I would think I'm not sure CMS will be that good in the Championship - he only scored 10 goals or so last time around - and Sharp has had his dry spells at this level as well however I think Maynard would be the better fit with Lambert and the rest of the team - and he has the killer pace we so desperately need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 players will be swung by all sorts of factors - fact that Adkins isn't famous is not likely to be one. Typical factors are likely to be; 1) money 2) money 3) money 4) how they think team will do 5) are the team on the way up - something we have over some championship clubs, our manager can give genuine reasons why we are on the way up, can Cardiff, Notts F etc? 6) geography 7) other players there have they played for manager before etc etc Not whether he is famous and glamorous! Adkins does seem to be popular with players, the team spirit appears better than I can remember it - easy when winning and doing so impressive as Adkins did. Some in the game may have noticed this http://www.leaguemanagers.com/managers/mpl-league.html I will give that the same reply as i did on the 'fixtures released' thread.... However,we will be up against a totally different class of opposition with a a much more level playing field interms of quality at our and others disposal. Last season we had a massive advantage over many of our opposition.We should have done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 [/b] I will give that the same reply as i did on the 'fixtures released' thread.... However,we will be up against a totally different class of opposition with a a much more level playing field interms of quality at our and others disposal. Last season we had a massive advantage over many of our opposition.We should have done well. indeed..and now we are back in the real world of football where there seems to be few good NPC signings with more clubs going for them...more clubs with more likelyhood of pushing for promotion that us..... real world..not easy league 1 where people will sign for us for no other reason than being saints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 indeed..and now we are back in the real world of football where there seems to be few good NPC signings with more clubs going for them...more clubs with more likelyhood of pushing for promotion that us..... real world..not easy league 1 where people will sign for us for no other reason than being saints What? I dont understand, how can this be when we are the most attractive club outside of the top 4 clubs in England, can get crowds of 45,000 every week and they said man would never climb everest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 He was a Championship striker as recently as the 2009/10 season. And got relegated! (Not saying it was his fault though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 What? I dont understand, how can this be when we are the most attractive club outside of the top 4 clubs in England, can get crowds of 45,000 every week and they said man would never climb everest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Lets just hope we get one of them FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2011 or a overseas player we have not heard of who is better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 June, 2011 Author Share Posted 26 June, 2011 [/b] I will give that the same reply as i did on the 'fixtures released' thread.... However,we will be up against a totally different class of opposition with a a much more level playing field interms of quality at our and others disposal. Last season we had a massive advantage over many of our opposition.We should have done well. but did better than well. he out performed every manager in the country. no doubt players will come if money is offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Lets just hope we get one of them FFS. Go and jump off a bridge, you obsessive, compulsive waste of online space "ffs" Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Go and jump off a bridge, you obsessive, compulsive waste of online space "ffs" Lmao Obsessive? Sounds like you you wierdo, commenting on pretty much every post i make. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 Obsessive? Sounds like you you wierdo, commenting on pretty much every post i make. Get over it. What can I do, everytime you type I smell bull ****?? Now be quiet, be a good little boy and go back to your saints only need a playground to play in thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 but did better than well. he out performed every manager in the country. no doubt players will come if money is offered. It is not surprising with our squad in League 1 Adkin's rating is good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 June, 2011 Share Posted 26 June, 2011 What can I do, everytime you type I smell bull ****?? Now be quiet, be a good little boy and go back to your saints only need a playground to play in thread... Careful pal, only one post left. What a wierdo, using up all your posts on me. I'd be flattered if it wasn't so odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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