Pilchards Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 According to an italian saints fan we have made an offer for him. Its splashed across some Italian papers today. This is the only linked ive found. According to Tuttojuve,com, the only club to have made a concrete offer to Cagliari to obtain 25 year old defender Davide Astori is Southampton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 I recognise the player but don't know a lot about him. Seems very much a southampton style signing these days if we have the funds. Wouldn't be cheap, but potentially sounds an exciting player if true. Could be just agent talk who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 29 December, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 December, 2012 The profile for Davide Astori Date of birth: 07.01.1987 Place of birth: San Giovanni Bianco Age: 25 Height: 1,88 Nationality: Italy Position: Defence - Centre Back Foot: left Market value: 8.800.000 £ Player's agent: Promosport s.r.l. Style of play: Playing in the central defense, Astori has a good basic technique that combines the excellent physical characteristics and ability in head shots, that allows it to be dangerous in attack on free kicks and corner kicks. You tube footage: only one found as the rest are pictures only) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 That 'tache has got to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Superb centre half, watched him a number of times as well summer target Biyik. I'd prefer Biyik as he's a complete man mountain but Astori is also a superb alternative. He's more than just a stopper, he's also not bad with the ball too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Why didn't we try and get him in the summer? Overpay for him defo now, we got Yoshida................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 I'm quite happy with our current CB partnership. He'd have to be really first class to make it worthwhile breaking up our current pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_bert Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 He really is a top notch CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Here's a idea. If we really want the manager to manage the team and make it a big success, then why don't we ask him who he wants for a change, rather than getting yet another player in from the Italian game who our Chairman happens to have heard of/fancy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 I'm quite happy with our current CB partnership. He'd have to be really first class to make it worthwhile breaking up our current pairing. What if one of them gets injured or sent off...are you happy with Jos or Seaborne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 (edited) Here's a idea. If we really want the manager to manage the team and make it a big success, then why don't we ask him who he wants for a change, rather than getting yet another player in from the Italian game who our Chairman happens to have heard of/fancy? Saints have never had a bias AGAINST foreign players. We can ask ourselves, how did we find out about Ivan Golac, Claus Lundekvam and Marian Pahars? We trust our overseas scouting network to give us good tips and we don't know that NA hasn't watched the player - or do we? . You don't have to be a genius to know what's wrong with the squad, or what we need for back-up.....hundreds of people on this site tell us every week! Because we haven't seen him week in and week out on MOTD / SKY it doesn't mean this player (or another) wouldn't be a good buy. I don't think that Yoshida is a bad buy.....or Ramirez either, but very few of us had ever seen them play very much before, and most of the rest had to go to You Tube to find out who they were. Mayuka may not fit into the scheme of things at present, but a poll published last week placed him as the " highest ranked Saints player in World football " . Edited 29 December, 2012 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 What if one of them gets injured or sent off...are you happy with Jos or Seaborne? .and dare we mention it .....but in our latter days in the Prem. 7 or 8 years ago...we had an injury crisis with Five CBs out at one point in time, then suddenly we "discovered " that we still had Chris Baird on the books ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Blimey. Quality CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Here's a background bit of reading after a Google search: http://www.footballitaliano.co.uk/p6_70_5629_a-name-to-look-out-for-davide-astori.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mowgli Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Here's a idea. If we really want the manager to manage the team and make it a big success, then why don't we ask him who he wants for a change, rather than getting yet another player in from the Italian game who our Chairman happens to have heard of/fancy? Here's an idea. Why don't we stop making up conspiracy theories and recognise saints are pursuing a player in a position we all know needs strengthening.. Sounds like a good target o me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 (edited) Saints have never had a bias AGAINST foreign players. We can ask ourselves, how did we find out about Ivan Golac, Claus Lundekvam and Marian Pahars? We trust our overseas scouting network to give us good tips and we don't know that NA hasn't watched the player - or do we? . You don't have to be a genius to know what's wrong with the squad, or what we need for back-up.....hundreds of people on this site tell us every week! Because we haven't seen him week in and week out on MOTD / SKY it doesn't mean this player (or another) wouldn't be a good buy. I don't think that Yoshida is a bad buy.....or Ramirez either, but very few of us had ever seen them play very much before, and most of the rest had to go to You Tube to find out who they were. Mayuka may not fit into the scheme of things at present, but a poll published last week placed him as the " highest ranked Saints player in World football " . Well I'm glad you decided to raise the subjects of "bias" and Emmanuel Mayuka. We signed this player - who despite his 'high world ranking' Nigel Adkins seems utterly unconvinced by - from the Swiss Club BSC Youngboys. So there you go then, another example of our Italo/Swiss Chairman signing a player who just happens to come from the Italian, or Swiss game. List of recent SFC signings with significant Swiss/Italian connection: Emmanuel Mayuka Gaston Ramirez Guly do Prado Artur Boruc Should we sign this Astori lad from Cagiari that would then make it five - half a team. If you are really were as in favour of scouring the world game for players as you claim to be, then I would hope you would agree with me and say that we should cast our net as far and wide as possible in order that we might catch the best fish in it. At the moment however our net seems to be heading in one direction only. I say the manager should have a big say in the composition of the squad he is supposed to be managing - other opinions are available of course ... Edited 29 December, 2012 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 According to Wikipedia : On 9 July 2012, Astori revealed he turned down a move to Russian side Spartak Moscow for worth 15million euro (£11.9m) fee after agreement between two clubs. Astori explained turning a move to Spartak Moscow because he wants to stay at Cagliari and achieve his goals with the club Seems an unlikely one to me. unless of course he is now in dispute with his club and wants to leave. ( Same might have been said of Ramirez though at one stage). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Seems like he is part owned by AC Milan as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Well I'm glad you decided to raise the subjects of "bias" and Emmanuel Mayuka. We signed this player - who despite his 'high world ranking' Nigel Adkins seems utterly unconvinced by - from the Swiss Club BSC Youngboys. So there you go then, another example of our Italo/Swiss Chairman signing a player who just happens to come from the Italian, or Swiss game. List of recent SFC signings with significant Swiss/Italian connection: Emmanuel Mayuka Gaston Ramirez Guly do Prado Artur Boruc Should we sign this Astori lad from Cagiari that would then make it five - half a team. If you are really were as in favour of scouring the world game for players as you claim to be, then I would hope you would agree with me and say that we should cast our net as far and wide as possible in order that we might catch the best fish in it. At the moment however our net seems to be heading in one direction only. I say the manager should have a big say in the composition of the squad he is supposed to be managing - other opinions are available of course ... although are they not all nationals of countries other than italy and switzaland? brazilian, urugian, polish etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 (edited) although are they not all nationals of countries other than italy and switzaland? brazilian, urugian, polish etc? I was very careful to only say that they came here from the Swiss/Italian game - not that they are necessarily nationals of those states. The wider points are that although the manager is obviously far too busy to scout the world game for players - he should at the very least have some real input into transfer decisions. It seems to me questionable that Nigel Adkins is in that happy position here. It is equally obvious that if you only look in the same place for foreign players, then that (self imposed) restriction may result in us missing out on good players from other places. The Italian game is not exactly the home of bargain football - there may perhaps be better value for money elsewhere. Edited 29 December, 2012 by CHAPEL END CHARLIE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 I was very careful to only say that they came here from the Swiss/Italian game - not that they are necessarily nationals of those states. The wider points are that although the manager is obviously far too busy to scout the world game for players - he should at the very least have some real input into transfer decisions. It seems to me questionable that Nigel Adkins is in that happy position here. It is equally obvious that if you only look in the same place for foreign players, then that (self imposed) restriction may result in us missing out on good players from other places. The Italian game is not exactly the home of bargain football - there may perhaps be better value for money elsewhere. Rodriguez, Clyne, Yoshida, Gazzanigga? All hand picked by Cortese as well I take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Bloody hell, I follow Serie A closely and this is a bolt from the blue. Absolute quality CB above the level I assumed we'd be going for. Would be extremely happy if this is true! Chapel End, your comment about Italian football not being known for bargains is factually not true. The latest TV rights issues on top of falling gates due to corruption and Ultras revolting mean the state of finances in Serie A is at a worrying level. Plenty of bargains there as clubs look to cash in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 I was very careful to only say that they came here from the Swiss/Italian game - not that are necessarily nationals of those states. The wider points are that although the manager is obviously far too busy to scout the world game for players - he should at the very least have some real input into transfer decisions. It seems to me questionable that Nigel Adkins is in that happy position here. It is equally obvious that if you only look in the same place for foreign players, then that (self imposed) restriction may result in us missing out on good players from other places. The Italian game is not exactly the home of bargain football - there may perhaps be better value for money elsewhere. I'd be really interested to know what makes you think that. Has he even hinted at that? BTW I see you've decided to completely ignore our forays (successful or otherwise) in other leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackanorySFC Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Here's a background bit of reading after a Google search: http://www.footballitaliano.co.uk/p6_70_5629_a-name-to-look-out-for-davide-astori.html Excellent article summing up what I know, that he is one of Italy's top CBs in a good crop. Just hope he isn't expecting cattenaccio from Adkins as he'll be in for a shock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/juventus-plan-move-cagliari-defender-davide-astori-3431051#.UN689uTZZTg Juve and Milan were linked in the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazza82 Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7883907/ He has turned down move to Spartak Moscow in the summer aswell, a bid of 11.9m was agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Turned down moves to bigger clubs, part owned by a third team- it's the Ramirez deal all over again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 I follow Serie A a lot, this would be a really good signing. Top CB, a lot better than anything we currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Astori is wholly owned by Cagliari. They bought the remaining 50% of him from Milan in June 2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Turned down moves to bigger clubs' date=' [b']part owned by a third team[/b]- it's the Ramirez deal all over again! Quite a few people have referred to this , but if you read the Wikipedia article I posted above, it states that his current club bought the player outright after an initial part-share arrangement with AC Milan. It could be incorrect as it is only Wikipedia of course. Don't think this is likely though,as he has already supposedly turned down a bigger move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 http://m.napolimagazine.com.cn/?action=read&idnotizia=163441 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 I'd be really interested to know what makes you think that. Has he even hinted at that? BTW I see you've decided to completely ignore our forays (successful or otherwise) in other leagues. My reading of the situation - do you think Nigel Adkins was battering down the Don's door all last summer demanding we signed Gaston Ramirez? As for my contributions on here being too short and to the point ... well you may be right I suppose, but I know some on here who take a different view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 http://m.napolimagazine.com.cn/?action=read&idnotizia=163441 €10m offer. Cagliari are in dire financial straits at the moment. All season they've been playing their home games on neutral turf around Italy as their stadium hasn't been deemed safe enough for spectators. No match day revenue + cost of travelling. Players salaries also unpaid for October and November. http://transfernewscentral.com/cagliari-is-in-financial-trouble/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Not a lot not to like about this one, 6ft 2 Italian international centre half at a good age. Would be a fantastic signing by the looks of things. Italians certainly know how to defend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Wonder how likely it is that our bid would be accepted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 I was very careful to only say that they came here from the Swiss/Italian game - not that they are necessarily nationals of those states. The wider points are that although the manager is obviously far too busy to scout the world game for players - he should at the very least have some real input into transfer decisions. It seems to me questionable that Nigel Adkins is in that happy position here. It is equally obvious that if you only look in the same place for foreign players, then that (self imposed) restriction may result in us missing out on good players from other places. The Italian game is not exactly the home of bargain football - there may perhaps be better value for money elsewhere. So how do you know NA doesn't have "real input" over transfer targets? Is it not reasonable that someone other than the current manager has input in choosing players that will be contracted to the club for several years, perhaps beyond the tenure ot the current manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 On the link, I'd be staggered if it came off but it would be a superb signing. Exactly what we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 According to an italian saints fan we have made an offer for him. Its splashed across some Italian papers today. This is the only linked ive found. According to Tuttojuve,com, the only club to have made a concrete offer to Cagliari to obtain 25 year old defender Davide Astori is Southampton. Would be the signing that keeps us up, along with a keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Goooooal Lazio!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 When do people ITK start sending them PMs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Daniele Labanti who was the italian journalist who tweeted lots about Ramirez has just said 'it could be possible' on twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Daniele Labanti who was the italian journalist who tweeted lots about Ramirez has just said 'it could be possible' on twitter. Good stuff. The only thing is it probably isn't a transfer that's going to get done quickly. Unless we've been negotiating for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 That 'tache has got to go. Bye... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olallana Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Turned down moves to bigger clubs' date=' part owned by a third team- it's the Ramirez deal all over again![/quote'] That would be fantastic since Ramirez DID join us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Good stuff. The only thing is it probably isn't a transfer that's going to get done quickly. Unless we've been negotiating for a while. And that is something quite possible if we really are trying to get him. If. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Sounds good, but this would mean we would end up with 4 left sided CBs (counting Seaborne) and 1 right-sided. I think Fonte has been very good this season after the first couple of games, but it concerns me what would happen if he was injured or suspended. We would have to play one of our left-sided CBs out of position - it might work but seems a big risk. Without Martin as backup we are very exposed in this position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 This would be a signing we have no right to make, given the players stature and our position - so it's par the course that we'll try.....nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 Sounds good, but this would mean we would end up with 4 left sided CBs (counting Seaborne) and 1 right-sided. I think Fonte has been very good this season after the first couple of games, but it concerns me what would happen if he was injured or suspended. We would have to play one of our left-sided CBs out of position - it might work but seems a big risk. Without Martin as backup we are very exposed in this position. Yoshida plays both, NA said that was a key reason for signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 I don't nessasairly buy this left sided and right sided centre half thing. Its only been an issue since Adkins said he prefers left footed centre halves playing on the left side so that it is easier to play out from the back. Before them wed never discussed it. I'd rather have two good solid centre halves that can defend properly who are right footed than two average ones (like we have) playing on their favoured foot side. Rio Ferdinand and Vidic are both right footed, doesn't seem to have been a problem for them for the last few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 29 December, 2012 Share Posted 29 December, 2012 So how do you know NA doesn't have "real input" over transfer targets? Is it not reasonable that someone other than the current manager has input in choosing players that will be contracted to the club for several years, perhaps beyond the tenure ot the current manager? OK then. Those blessed with even a basic command of English should be able to tell the obvious difference between someone claiming they know something as a fact, and those putting forward an opinion. When I write "it seems to me questionable" this is meant to imply that I see some room for speculation (or doubt) in the proposition, IE that Nigel Adkins enjoys a real input into transfer decisions at this club. I'm always happy to help, but I do hope that is quite clear now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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