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I sadly remember the day listening to a middle aged woman in the ichin south screaming about he was the biggest waste of space in L1 because "he always passed to a safe player and was doing nothing useful"

 

Never been back to that end of the ichin because explaining to her how passing to free players instead of having chappers on not doing a lot was too much of a challenge...

 

Morg player of the year this year, especially now we have the system for him and Cork all worked out properly (nearly 2 years working on it has paid off).

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53% would :lol:

 

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268 of you! Such a shame this was not one of those public polls.

This was in the days when Morgan was considered lightweight, unable to tackle, a hollywood passing showboater and definitely not a defensive midfielder! (Not accurate IMO even in those days)

 

I know he has come on a bit since then, but still 268 of us chose Wotton!

 

Interestingly around the same time another poll was conducted asking to define the most important element of a teams success and also 47% responded "get it forward/run around a lot........."

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FFS

 

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

Don't let anyone else out there know.

 

Last thing we want is Chelski or Citeh coming in with a 60mil bid.

 

Oh and I have also seen a number of articles/blogs where his stats this season pretty much top out most of the main leagues in Europe, not just the PL.

 

Think all Saints fans should say a huge Thankyou to the man who did so much to build the foundations of our club - The Academy, and brought Morgan to Saints.

 

No not Ruddy Cheeks, I mean Georges Prost

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Going to be hard to hang on to him methinks.

 

I think clubs will be wary of paying top dollar for players with 1 decent season - Liverpool might be the obvious contenders - Allen, Henderson, Andy Carroll ect all signed for OTT transfer fees after 1 decent season.

 

I think Morgan is also a Liverpool fan?

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FFS

 

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

Don't let anyone else out there know.

 

Last thing we want is Chelski or Citeh coming in with a 60mil bid.

 

Oh and I have also seen a number of articles/blogs where his stats this season pretty much top out most of the main leagues in Europe, not just the PL.

 

Think all Saints fans should say a huge Thankyou to the man who did so much to build the foundations of our club - The Academy, and brought Morgan to Saints.

 

No not Ruddy Cheeks, I mean Georges Prost

 

too right, Geroges Prost brought so much to our club through his insight in to our acadamy and its players, he brought a culture that has continued to turn out good footballers, importantly good technical footballers and also some decent kids with a sensible head on their shoulders - fair play fella

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I think we should all be grateful he was so crap in his first season. If he had been half decent someone would have offered us £500k for him and we'd have bitten their hands off. Same as we had to with DMG and Surman. Yes that's right, people were willing to pay £1m for DMG but nobody wanted Morgan. He really was poor in his first season here.

 

Those stats for this season are great, we will do well to hang on to him even if we stay up.

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Anyone recall how much credit Rupert Lowe was given for Morgan's signing? Wasn't it suggested that it was a cover deal with Pompy or Arsenal to have Schneiderlin here for a short time and pass him on? Instead the club managed to hang on to him through the financial crisis and the administration period.

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Anyone recall how much credit Rupert Lowe was given for Morgan's signing? Wasn't it suggested that it was a cover deal with Pompy or Arsenal to have Schneiderlin here for a short time and pass him on? Instead the club managed to hang on to him through the financial crisis and the administration period.

 

That last thing. That he stayed through the tough times can in my eyes potentially make him a club legend if he stays the full length of the new contract.

 

Since I´m not a local town fan. Do you local people see more Schneiderlin shirts on fans at the games lately?

Does fans acknowledge him in that way...?

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I wonder what his stats were last season?

 

Wasnt even a guaranteed starter last season and now he's worth £25m (according to some on here)

 

He's not worth £25 million, more like £10 - 12 million, however we don;t need to sell him, he has a long ocntract and he doesn't really want to go, so to buy him you would have to offer silly money, i.e £25 million.

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He's not worth £25 million, more like £10 - 12 million, however we don;t need to sell him, he has a long ocntract and he doesn't really want to go, so to buy him you would have to offer silly money, i.e £25 million.

 

Fair point but would you swap him for one of Rodwell/Henderson/Allen/Barry? how much did they go for?

 

edit: just re-read your post, not disagreeing with you

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Gives me a bit more belief though that neutrals are saying this rather than just our fans !

 

Surprised Liverpool fans are referring him to be a backup on their forum, he's far far better than Henderson and Allen put together.

 

Liverpool fans really rate Henderson in the main and question why Allen is ahead of him. By all accounts Allen has been decent too - perhaps resonable to allow him a season to adjust to a team the size of Liverpools?

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He covers the most ground in the division, makes the most interceptions, scores goals despite essentially playing a holding role and has a very decent pass completion rate considering that the direction he plays the ball is generally positive. Very, very impressive season so far.

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I do not post much anymore because of the number of immature trolls and idiots spoiling this forum. I do not intend renewing my full membership. However I thought I would reply to VFTT post (I do not categorise you in the above group)

 

I was one of those so called old duffers. I did not rate Schneiderlin in the Championship or Division 1

 

He may have covered more ground than most but with what end product. Very little in my opinion. He just seemed to lollop around and find a safe haven when he could

 

He may have more completed passes than most but backwards and sideways short passes got us nowhere. It slowed the attacking allowing the opposition defence to regroup. It was the lazy option

 

He was a powder puff tackler and when he tried a bit more aggression he got booked.

 

He had virtually no impact of the positives of the game.

 

This season and especially in the last few months he has changed his game radically. He is more positive in the tackle, he has upped his pace going forward and returning to his defensive duties, he is now a goal threat without diminishing his defensive duties and he is now showing all the quality the doubters like me all hoped and prayed he would.

 

We have not gone quiet over Schneiderlin. We are just fed up with the drivel that is now posted on this site. Again I am not including you in that comment.

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I do not post much anymore because of the number of immature trolls and idiots spoiling this forum. I do not intend renewing my full membership. However I thought I would reply to VFTT post (I do not categorise you in the above group)

 

I was one of those so called old duffers. I did not rate Schneiderlin in the Championship or Division 1

 

He may have covered more ground than most but with what end product. Very little in my opinion. He just seemed to lollop around and find a safe haven when he could

 

He may have more completed passes than most but backwards and sideways short passes got us nowhere. It slowed the attacking allowing the opposition defence to regroup. It was the lazy option

 

He was a powder puff tackler and when he tried a bit more aggression he got booked.

 

He had virtually no impact of the positives of the game.

 

This season and especially in the last few months he has changed his game radically. He is more positive in the tackle, he has upped his pace going forward and returning to his defensive duties, he is now a goal threat without diminishing his defensive duties and he is now showing all the quality the doubters like me all hoped and prayed he would.

 

We have not gone quiet over Schneiderlin. We are just fed up with the drivel that is now posted on this site. Again I am not including you in that comment.

 

You are entitled to your viewpoint of course but that fact that he was near enough first name of on the team sheet for almost every manager for the past 4 years suggests that there was rather more to his contribution in leagues 1 and Championship than you are allowing him.

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I am also an old differ. Apparently.

 

I didn't rate him in his first season in the Championship at all. He looked like he had some tallent but was very poor when it came to delivering it on the pitch. I'd have said in his first season he was barely any better than players like Romain Gasmi and (World Class) Ryan Smith. They also appeared to have some tallent but delivered very little on the pitch.

 

I'd just like to point out, however, that I haven't gone awfully quiet. I've just changed my opinion now that Morgan has developped into a much much better player than he was then. I'm sure many people are the same and there's nothing wrong with that.

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Despite being much younger, he's similar to Gaston. Looks a good player in first season, loads of natural ability, but not consistent and sometimes the game passes him by as he needed to adapt. Morgan has now done this, got used to the pace, worked on parts of his game which suit English football, and now he can make the most of that raw talenet he always had.

 

I just hope people can be as patient with Gaston.

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I do not post much anymore because of the number of immature trolls and idiots spoiling this forum. I do not intend renewing my full membership. However I thought I would reply to VFTT post (I do not categorise you in the above group)

 

I was one of those so called old duffers. I did not rate Schneiderlin in the Championship or Division 1

 

He may have covered more ground than most but with what end product. Very little in my opinion. He just seemed to lollop around and find a safe haven when he could

 

He may have more completed passes than most but backwards and sideways short passes got us nowhere. It slowed the attacking allowing the opposition defence to regroup. It was the lazy option

 

He was a powder puff tackler and when he tried a bit more aggression he got booked.

 

He had virtually no impact of the positives of the game.

 

This season and especially in the last few months he has changed his game radically. He is more positive in the tackle, he has upped his pace going forward and returning to his defensive duties, he is now a goal threat without diminishing his defensive duties and he is now showing all the quality the doubters like me all hoped and prayed he would.

 

We have not gone quiet over Schneiderlin. We are just fed up with the drivel that is now posted on this site. Again I am not including you in that comment.

 

His class & ability was obvious from the start IMHO. Yes he needed to toughen up but most do when moving to English lower level footy.

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Deschamps only looks at players with European competition to their name. Morgan won't get the nod until he's with a club Deschamps has heard of or Deschamps is gone. Morgan did himself untold harm vis a vis international selection in dropping down to League 1 with us and the FFF won't forget that they told him not to do that.

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For the francophones: From this morning's L'Equipe

 

Don't have time to translate it all now, Mrs says I have to go to the shops when I've finished my cuppa.

 

http://kickoff.blogs.lequipe.fr/?p=508

 

 

There you are....

 

 

 

Morgan Schneiderlin: "They want football or kings of the night? "(2/2)

Published March 22, 2013

Place the second part of this long interview with Morgan Schneiderlin (23 years), the medium to do everything Southampton. After talking to footballer and the evolution of his game, chat with the man about the many facets of its business. Reserved by nature, French is however a great talker when he talks about all aspects of the sport.

 

 

 

 

Even if you're a man, do you realize dream of thousands of people making football?

should be aware! If you do not have conscience ... (He pauses) You people who expect it to come to the game with family and encourage their club. Except that you can play a game well, fine, you'll be brought to heaven. Then you're going to miss one and you will not be a ****. The important thing is to be consistent and stay in his bubble. But we must be aware that, yes, we dream of people, even if it's weird to say that. You should also be aware that the press will judge you. And here, it's not kidding (laughs) : Match of the day , etc.. Always stay in the world, whether you or we'll break glorified as not possible. And that's where the challenge.

because every week, you are left for anything else. It is important to be yourself. I have thirty Premier League matches but I'm not a seasoned player in the Premier League, far from it. I still play a lot of games, align the seasons. But that does not prevent me from feeling that I expanded in the second half of the season thanks to the experience. It's interesting, but I still go to other levels.

 

More players admit depressed playing at the highest level because of unimaginable pressure and the number of intermediaries. What do you think of this since you evolve in the Premier League?

Already, with success, the vultures come (laughs) . You must deal with these "new friends" who only think of you enjoy. But we must never forget where we come from, even if you have a lot of money and you're famous. Do not forget that overnight, you can and will be forgotten. A career is fifteen years, unless Zidane or someone kind of (laughs) . Otherwise, two after your career, you're forgotten. So take pleasure. You must never say that it is not good to have so much pressure. Pressure is something enjoyable! The have before the game, feel up, I love it! I like having the pressure, I like people watching me play, I like to hear them sing. This is something good. And if it brings criticism, do not take it the wrong way. You must never take the lead because you criticized, it's part of football. It is the job of journalists and people who are paid television to remove it properly. There are people who take pleasure in smashing more (laughs) .

I'll tell you the truth, this is also why I have not taken English television. After the game, you have players who come and say: "Damn, I watched Match of the Day yesterday, I was shattered because I made ​​this little error. " I say, "Listen, I do not watch that kind of stuff and I do not even English television! " Programmes such, it can break your morale. Converted former players, they do not take chopsticks to say you suck.

 

 

Schneiderlin regrets the human hard on athletes' sporting Let be judged, no problem, it makes sense. But we do a hard on ... We are all humans, we made sacrifices as our family from 12 to 13 years in training centers. It was not a teenager, life like other young people. It is important that people understand that we are human. Even if it does not excuse behavior like those idiots. '

 

This means that you completely cut out with football matches or training?

No. I love football. I French TV and I love watching football. This is my life football anyway. But everything around ... I do not like. Those who speak of Southampton, I try to ignore. I do not need the press or a TV to see if I made ​​a good match. You feel if you had a good game. The coach is there to tell you what you did right and wrong, you do not need others or you lather. Directly after the match, I know if I was wrong or not. There are players who need to watch this **** whether they were a good match or if we will talk about one of their mistakes. Maybe some people like this kind of programming, I respect.

Personally, I think it is important to cut from time to time and do not watch this kind of stuff, especially if you had a bad game and took a flock (laughs) . Well, if you did an extraordinary match, you can turn a little TV and give you a little lather . (laughs) But it should not be taken seriously.

 

You are one of the pillars of Southampton for years, you realize a great season in the Premier League and it seems that you do not use hardly your image. Is it a desire on your part or lack of opportunity?

I have a lot of people say to me: "Morgan, it's great what you do but why there is not more communication around you ? " The most important thing for me is that my coach and my club recognize my work. After that, I will not beg people to talk about me like some can.

 

"No club back on a pre-meeting for France"

 

I did not necessarily the media, but rather the use of your image for advertising, etc..

Ahhh! What interests me is the ground. Being told : "Morgan, you're super nice pub on this (laughs)! " I'm a footballer, I'm not a model. If there is a serious proposal, I will not say no directly, I will study it. Do not forget that I play Southampton. The club is being built and no extraordinary demands. It is not Arsenal or Manchester United who have daily requests for press and sponsorship.

 

In the same vein, you're one of the few professional players do not have Twitter or Facebook account.

It's a bit like the TV social networks. I saw a lot of players take penalties because they wrote stuff on Twitter, as some who are supposed to be injured and say where they are actually (laughs) . Twitter, I do not care. I do not reveal my life. I was already offered me a Twitter account and Facebook to communicate with me and for the fans. But I said no. If one day I have a lot of requests, why not? But I do not think so. What is certain is that I will control that kind of thing. You see me put what I think for political or giving my opinion on everything (laughs) ?

 

 

Lovers of the France team, "Spiderman" (his nickname in Southampton) is patiently waiting his time

 

You can read many testimonials on the follies of anonymous players and countless people gravitating around you. Honestly, if you need a Lamborghini and a hot girl in an hour to go out tonight, you just have to snap your fingers and it brings you on a platter?

course! This is completely crazy. With our convenient location, you can make you distracted by anything today. More players fart cables in and out more than it should. Especially here, where things happen almost every night of the week. If you're not in the mindset professional if you do not think you'll get busted ... But if ever a football player wants to go out every night, he can do it, no problem. Except on weekends, he is dead. Things are easier when you call so and so, they are obtained more easily. Hence the importance of being surrounded and have a stable life.

If you want to do that, we can do it. Some will sign a four-year contract and they go clubbing and do what they want because they have their contract, their money. But that is what they after? What they do is professional football or king of the night? It depends on what you want to do with your life. If you want to be professional, there are things you can not do. After that, I'm not saying you can not get or do not make mistakes. Each person is bull****, this is something normal, human. We have the right to have a drink on a Saturday night out or if we play the following week, otherwise there is more joy in life. But do not forget there is an expectation around us, the younger generation that we take as an example. So your behavior must be beyond reproach.

 

Finally, we will return to the field and discuss the France team. Is that you have already received a pre-meeting?

I have had no return of the pre-club meeting. At least we do not talk about me. And because players often plan things during an international week, I returned to France to see my family personally, the club tells you: "Do not prepare anything because you might be called. " Every interview here, I demand vis-à-vis the France team. As I always say, the France team is a dream. I made ​​all the selections more young people. I want to be in the France team, yes. But I will not ... (He pauses) If I'm right, they have an eye on me. I give myself goals. I'll do everything, but everything to be in the World Cup in two years. The best way is to try to get the highest possible Southampton. After that, there are very good players in France. I do not say, "But I'm better than him and her! " This is not the mindset to have.

 

We almost forget that you have only seen your 23 years experience (note, nearly 200 professional games) !

(Laughs) I'm only 23 years old, I'm not old. But this team of France ... I have it in a corner of my head and gives me every day how to get there, to realize this dream. It makes me want, but we're already looking to maintain this year.

 

or try this one....

 

http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http://kickoff.blogs.lequipe.fr/?p=508

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My French is a little rusty, but I'm fairly sure that's not what he said! Oh, Google Translate.

 

No it's a colloquial expression, means blow fuses, act stupidly, go over the top etc etc.

Peter means to fart but also to burst or suddenly stop working in an explosive manner..

 

Ma télé a pété, doesn't mean the TV has farted, it means it's blown up or just simply stopped working suddenly.

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I said from his first season that Morgan was going to be a class act. I said in league one he'll eventually be our most important player. I said in the championship he'll probably end up at a top four club. Now we're in the prem' i can't help but think that not only will he go on to play at a top four club he'll also captain France at some point.

 

But then again i don't base my judgements on a computer game or the old kick and rush of the past.

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