Lighthouse Posted 1 November, 2014 Share Posted 1 November, 2014 I'm completely disillusioned with my current industry and want out. Obviously Saints Web isn't the basis of my careers advice, nether the less I wondered if anyone had any recommendations. I'm a sciencey, technology kind of bloke with A levels in maths and physics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 1 November, 2014 Share Posted 1 November, 2014 I saw a list of high paying jobs that don't need a degree the other day but I can only remember air traffic controller and porn star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 1 November, 2014 Share Posted 1 November, 2014 (edited) I saw a list of high paying jobs that don't need a degree the other day but I can only remember air traffic controller and porn star. Air traffic controller = statistically the second highest paying job worldwide. You do have to go through ATC training though. It is also very stress-full (and depressing that studying for seven years will earn you less than an air traffic controller). Commercial pilots earn a very good living. Qualified welders can make a killing depending on how they specialise (I think underwater is the highest paying, diving off pipelines etc) and electricians and plumbers despite the rep also make a very good living if they know what they're doing. Edited 2 November, 2014 by farawaysaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 1 November, 2014 Share Posted 1 November, 2014 I saw a list of high paying jobs that don't need a degree the other day but I can only remember air traffic controller and porn star. That is multitasking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 18 Posted 1 November, 2014 Share Posted 1 November, 2014 Get a trade, be good at that trade, work hard, build up a decent client base, make a decent living Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 1 November, 2014 Share Posted 1 November, 2014 Actuary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 I too am looking for a job that doesn't really need much in the way of formal qualifications, or indeed any real talent. Furthermore a position that does not require any overt display of enthusiasm (or work ethic) on my part would be ideal. If this job could also pay well, but only involve me in a few hours of actual work a week, would be most agreeable. So a career in Local Government it is then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 IT if that way inclined. If you are any good and learn skills quickly it is easier to progress than many industries. Would need to start at entry level though if little experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 (edited) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/11010071/Top-10-high-paid-jobs-that-dont-need-a-degree.html?frame=2995455 Damn .... they've updated the ATC pic - when 1st published it showed A Marshaller with high vis vest and "ping pong" bats stood on the apron. Edited 2 November, 2014 by ericofarabia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 That is multitasking! We have to do something with all the spare time we get ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 I'm a sciencey, technology kind of bloke with A levels in maths and physics. Rocket scientist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 This - Virgin looking for basic GCSE/A levels to train pilots (in Southampton too) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/11196677/No-flying-experience-Come-fly-with-me-says-Richard-Branson.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 Drug dealer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutch Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 This - Virgin looking for basic GCSE/A levels to train pilots (in Southampton too) And Phoenix. I've seen that movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joneth Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 If your even a bit techy then start off learning some VBA and SQL, both pretty simple languages used heavily by most businesses. There's always jobs going for data analysis and report developing. Once your in there start learning python, JavaScript and anything else that catches your eye and you can build a half decent career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batman Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 Armed forces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 Go to a careers office and get some free advice and try some of those 'what job am I suited to' programmes like this one http://www.careercolleges.com/career-assessment-test and this one http://joboutlook.gov.au/careerquiz.aspx . They probably wont provide 'the answer' but will throw up new ideas for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goatboy Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 fluffer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 Actuary While you don't technically need a degree, it is basically expected and you won't find many employers anywhere that would take on a student without one. It's a very competitive profession to get in to. You then also have 15 very difficult exams to pass over the next 5-7 years. http://www.actuaries.org.uk/students/pages/how-register-student Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 Waste Disposal Engineer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 I'm completely disillusioned with my current industry and want out. Obviously Saints Web isn't the basis of my careers advice, nether the less I wondered if anyone had any recommendations. I'm a sciencey, technology kind of bloke with A levels in maths and physics. Accountancy. Someone I know started the AAT course a couple of years ago at the local college part-time, and got a bit of voluntary work to go alongside it for experience. Now he's working at a practice on decent wages, and says the course is the best thing he ever did. Soon after he got the job his boss was telling him how he was chosen over 4 other individuals, all of which had just graduated from university with accountancy degrees. The 2 main reasons were his practical experience/voluntary work, and that the the AAT course (3 years part-time study for approx £4k) is far more realistic/applicable in real life than almost all accountancy degrees (3 years full-time study for approx £30k), most of which consist of theoretical/generic fluff that has **** all to do with what happens in day-to-day accountancy practices. I asked a friend of mine in recruitment the other day, and she said virtually the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 Accountancy. Someone I know started the AAT course a couple of years ago at the local college part-time, and got a bit of voluntary work to go alongside it for experience. Now he's working at a practice on decent wages, and says the course is the best thing he ever did. Soon after he got the job his boss was telling him how he was chosen over 4 other individuals, all of which had just graduated from university with accountancy degrees. The 2 main reasons were his practical experience/voluntary work, and that the the AAT course (3 years part-time study for approx £4k) is far more realistic/applicable in real life than almost all accountancy degrees (3 years full-time study for approx £30k), most of which consist of theoretical/generic fluff that has **** all to do with what happens in day-to-day accountancy practices. I asked a friend of mine in recruitment the other day, and she said virtually the same thing. Yes and no, you can go the practical route but it tends to limit your job opportunities further down the line compared to degree candidates. Your earning potential in the profession is pretty poor if you don't have a degree (by the way, I have a degree in the field and I agree about its practical limitations) it's just the way firms operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 Armed forces? Pmsl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 2 November, 2014 Share Posted 2 November, 2014 This - Virgin looking for basic GCSE/A levels to train pilots (in Southampton too) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/11196677/No-flying-experience-Come-fly-with-me-says-Richard-Branson.html And the small amount of forking out £109k for your training during the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 3 November, 2014 Share Posted 3 November, 2014 And the small amount of forking out £109k for your training during the course. I was thinking helicopter pilot would make a good career change, what's the damage on this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 November, 2014 Share Posted 3 November, 2014 I was thinking helicopter pilot would make a good career change, what's the damage on this one? A helicopter engineer told me once that if you have a 30 year career as a helicopter pilot, say from 25-55, you've got a one in three chance of dying in a crash. Took the gloss off a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 3 November, 2014 Share Posted 3 November, 2014 fluffer Bottom's dropped out of that market since Viagra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 3 November, 2014 Share Posted 3 November, 2014 Accountancy. Someone I know started the AAT course a couple of years ago at the local college part-time, and got a bit of voluntary work to go alongside it for experience. Now he's working at a practice on decent wages, and says the course is the best thing he ever did. Soon after he got the job his boss was telling him how he was chosen over 4 other individuals, all of which had just graduated from university with accountancy degrees. The 2 main reasons were his practical experience/voluntary work, and that the the AAT course (3 years part-time study for approx £4k) is far more realistic/applicable in real life than almost all accountancy degrees (3 years full-time study for approx £30k), most of which consist of theoretical/generic fluff that has **** all to do with what happens in day-to-day accountancy practices. I asked a friend of mine in recruitment the other day, and she said virtually the same thing. I did AAT MANY years ago, and can wholeheartedly recommend it. I was developing accounting software at the time so it was really valuable to me, but the qualification is much more than accounting. It covers economics, business law, financial analysis, statistics, etc. If you think that you might find accounting interesting, (if that isn't oxymoronic) then AAT would be an excellent route. While you don't technically need a degree, it is basically expected and you won't find many employers anywhere that would take on a student without one. It's a very competitive profession to get in to. You then also have 15 very difficult exams to pass over the next 5-7 years. http://www.actuaries.org.uk/students/pages/how-register-student I agree, Deano. My son is in the final year of his degree, and he's just secured a position as a trainee actuarial analyst with a local firm for next year. Knowing how competitive these positions are, you'd have to be pretty fortunate/talented to find yourself even interviewed without a decent degree. Most of his intake cohort were from Oxbridge universities. Actually Deano, I believe my son's taking an investment route rather than (or perhaps in addition to) the typical actuarial qualifications. Either way, qualifying is going to take years. Oh, I forgot to mention that to be an actuary you have to be a maths bore too - just like Deano. x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 3 November, 2014 Share Posted 3 November, 2014 It sounds to me from the OP that whatever he does, it ought to be for himself. Disillusionment in a job is usually because you're in a job, not working on your own behalf. So finding another employer isn't likely to help. Work out your strengths, and what interests you, then figure out how to market that. I lasted a solid three months in employment, went self-employed, and wouldn't have it any other way. A mate of mine has been in medical research for twenty years, he got p*ssed off with every employer after about 3 or 4 years and moved to another. He finally bit the bullet two years ago and started as a freelance. Has as much work as he wants, and can turn down what he doesn't want to do, and I've never seen him so happy. It took him about a year to get back to the income levels he had at his last job, but he's now earning well above that for less work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano6 Posted 3 November, 2014 Share Posted 3 November, 2014 I agree, Deano. My son is in the final year of his degree, and he's just secured a position as a trainee actuarial analyst with a local firm for next year. Knowing how competitive these positions are, you'd have to be pretty fortunate/talented to find yourself even interviewed without a decent degree. Most of his intake cohort were from Oxbridge universities. Actually Deano, I believe my son's taking an investment route rather than (or perhaps in addition to) the typical actuarial qualifications. Either way, qualifying is going to take years. Oh, I forgot to mention that to be an actuary you have to be a maths bore too - just like Deano. x The first 12 exams are all the same no matter what area you're going in to, then the last 3 let you specialise in terms of where you want to go, eg Investments, Life Insurance, General Insurance, Pensions, Enterprise Risk Management. And it's true, you do have to be a maths bore - just like Bletch's children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 3 November, 2014 Share Posted 3 November, 2014 Manager of Tottenham Hotspurs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 3 November, 2014 Share Posted 3 November, 2014 Manager of Tottenham Hotspurs He wants a new career, not a casual temp job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingdomCome Posted 3 November, 2014 Share Posted 3 November, 2014 (edited) I would say something involving software development / network engineer or something of that ilk. Pluralsight.com seems like a decent option as it's a monthly subscription for online courses and it has a free trial. Edited 3 November, 2014 by KingdomCome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 26 November, 2014 Share Posted 26 November, 2014 Accountant, ex wife self taught her way through ACCA, now a Director at a Swiss Bank on >£150k pa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 26 November, 2014 Share Posted 26 November, 2014 Accountant, ex wife self taught her way through ACCA, now a Director at a Swiss Bank on >£150k pa. EX? You muppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 26 November, 2014 Share Posted 26 November, 2014 I'm completely disillusioned with my current industry and want out. Obviously Saints Web isn't the basis of my careers advice, nether the less I wondered if anyone had any recommendations. I'm a sciencey, technology kind of bloke with A levels in maths and physics. Do an ISEB in Business Analysis and become a BA. It's alright, you get to tell people like Pap what to do, and then get a load of techy attitude back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 26 November, 2014 Share Posted 26 November, 2014 Do an ISEB in Business Analysis and become a BA. It's alright, you get to tell people like Pap what to do, and then get a load of techy attitude back That takes me back. This started as the old NCC Certificate of Systems Analysis and Design run under the Systems Analysis Examination Board. I did it over 30 years ago. Then it was a 6 month full-time course followed by written and oral exams. It's expanded a lot since then and now covers a wide range of IT disciplines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoPints Posted 26 November, 2014 Share Posted 26 November, 2014 I would say something involving software development Porn star it is then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiggy Posted 26 November, 2014 Share Posted 26 November, 2014 Depending on age and financial security (no offence intended on either) I'd suggest an apprenticeship. Larger companies will take on a few apprentices every year and pay a decent living wage, half the time will pay for you to do a degree too while working for their company. Its what's suggested by colleges if you do not want to go to uni. My friend currently works for Rolls Royce, and another works for Quentic Q in Farnborough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 26 November, 2014 Share Posted 26 November, 2014 Co-incidentally Twiggy, this has been in the news today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-30193095 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 26 November, 2014 Share Posted 26 November, 2014 EX? You muppet. The current Mrs Killers Knee earns more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Jeff Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 That takes me back. This started as the old NCC Certificate of Systems Analysis and Design run under the Systems Analysis Examination Board. I did it over 30 years ago. Then it was a 6 month full-time course followed by written and oral exams. It's expanded a lot since then and now covers a wide range of IT disciplines. Indeed, I have diploma's in both that and testing. People can get away with not having a degree but just having a qualification like this. It's now a number of 3 day courses, followed by an exam and an oral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 Do an ISEB in Business Analysis and become a BA. It's alright, you get to tell people like Pap what to do, and then get a load of techy attitude back Look at Unbelievable Jeff lording it about ☺ Power or not, deep down, he knows his place in the pecking order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lets B Avenue Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 It's now a number of 3 day courses, followed by an exam and an oral. Interesting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Stand Posted 27 November, 2014 Share Posted 27 November, 2014 I'm completely disillusioned with my current industry and want out. Obviously Saints Web isn't the basis of my careers advice, nether the less I wondered if anyone had any recommendations. I'm a sciencey, technology kind of bloke with A levels in maths and physics. Become an MP!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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