Bailey Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 THE TEAM FOR PLYMOUTH HAS CHANGED SINCE MY LAST POST! We are now set to start with the following . . . ----------------------- Davis ---------------------- James ------- Lancashire ------- Cork ------- Skacel --------------- Gillett ----- Surman ---------------- Smith --------------- Lallana ------------- Holmes ------------------- Robertson --------------------- It's not the first time the team has changed last minute and probably won't be the last. Poortvliet has decided to rest a few people and it's good to see McGoldrick has been taken out of the firing line. Still unsure as to why Pearce isn't involved. Maybe we aren't extending his loan deal? Still, here's hoping for 3 points! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's There Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 Perhaps it keeps changing because you keep posting it up here to alert plymouth!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 We will lose with that team - Saga up front we might have stood a slim chance, but now...well...the circus plays on as we watch the club die... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 Oh and by the way - Happy Christmas and Seasons Greetings to all fellow Saints fans around the World. I s'pose we all be merry today despite the Christmas 'treats' Lowe has saved up for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 What an awful looking team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 Surely Perry is a guarantee in the back line, preferably with Cork, in front of Davis that would be a good central three. Skacel at left back fo' shizzle and then I guess there is no choice but James at right back. Alternatively move Cork out right and play Pierce in the centre. Glad to see that neither Euell or Lallana is playing right midfield as they are useless there. Glad he might drop fat mac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 We will lose with that team - Saga up front we might have stood a slim chance, but now...well...the circus plays on as we watch the club die... Saga's on loan to Aalborg mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 That doesn't look too bad. I'm worried about Lancashire as he's not up to the job most of the time. Thee attacking midfielders is a worry. Robertson is one dimensional rubbish. But, I guess there isn't many other options! Just have to get behind them. We should have pace at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 That doesn't look too bad. I'm worried about Lancashire as he's not up to the job most of the time. Thee attacking midfielders is a worry. Robertson is one dimensional rubbish. But, I guess there isn't many other options! Just have to get behind them. We should have pace at least. Smith is very fast indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 There. Is. No. Alternative. Or so we keep being told......much to my annoyance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 5 out of that 11 are not good enough for the CCC. They are Lancashire, James, Gillett, Robertson and Smith. If, in any team sport, you have 5 out of 11 players who are not good enough, then you will lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team-saint Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 apart from the back which is too inexperienced i think that team will do better than what jan is likely to put out, it at least gives us a balanced midfield with 2 wingers and robertson is better than mcgoldrick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 If Robertson starts ahead of McGoldrick then were ****ed. McGoldrick is our top goal scorer, he may not be everyones favourite player but dropping your top goal scorer, who ever you are, is absurd. Other than that, I'm happy enough. Gillet has been bought in top combat the phsyical side of Plymouth as despite him being a dwarf he's likely to put his foot in. That is the only reason I can think of that Roberston is starting, because he's likely to be a bit more phsyical than McGoldrick. Shame he is guff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 But according to those who watch him he is in no form whatsoever and is taking up a place that someone else could perhaps perform much better. Why start a game with only 10 when you could start with 11 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 Because the people who watch him think that because he's not Brett Ormerod and doesnt run round like a headless chicken that he is ****. I'm pretty certain that you ask anybody who watched him while he was playing in the reserves a few years ago, that they will tell you he's never been one that looks like giving a ****. Infact, random and slightly sad but I remember a post on this board a while ago after a reserve game saying something like "McGoldrick was **** today, we slagged him off all game, didn't look interested, couldnt be arsed at all, but to be fair he scored twice." Don't all top strikers say something along the lines of "The best bit of movement you can do as a striker is no movement at all. Standing still is just as useful" I certainly don't see players like RVN running there socks off. (He's alot better than McGoldrick and has alot better service, before anyone says "but RVN scores McGoldrick doesn't".) Also quite sad but I remember Beattie saying something about teaching our young strikers like Blackstock, McGoldrick and Best that chasing stuff down just gets you into posistions out wide where you cant score from. As I said earlier, Ormerod did that, and he scored like 4 times or something silly for us. When you play one up front, which is our best option because we have no other strikers worth playing, you dont want that centre forward whipping in crosses to nobody after he's just ran his arse off to get the ball off the left back. The kid does not look like he gives a ****. Yes he's been **** the last few games, he couldn't finish his breakfast against Forest, but he's our top goal scorer. He won us the game at Preston with a fine solo goal. I dont remember Stern John ever looking like he could give a toss but he scored goals. McGoldrick will score goals more than anyone else in our squad at the moment. Saga, when he gets back is about the only striker worth challenging him for a place in the team. Untill then, the kids been better than any other striker in our squad. Yes he's been inconsistent, but he's a kid, unless he's Rooney he's going to be **** but i'd rather him in the team than anyone else in our squad, quite simply because not one of the other strikers is doing ANYTHING worth shouting about. At least he's getting chances to miss, which is something I do not remember Robertson or Paterson ever having when they have played, and if someone says "They haven't been given a chance to play regulary like McGoldrick has." Then that is ******** also because Robertson has and Paterson cant even get ahead of him in the reserve side. BWP is a much better winger before anyone says anything about starting him upfront on his own and as for the mug who said play Skacel up front, well done clever clogs, play the only half decent player capable of playing left back who we were all crying out for to come back in at left back at the start of the season upfront on his own, when despite rumours saying otherwise he's never actually played there. I can't reply anymore because of the shocking 3 post rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 I can't reply anymore because of the shocking 3 post rule. Pay the tiny amount of £5 then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 James has taken a lot of stick this season and some early doors was merited. He has been caught out of position and goals have been scored. WOW. In my book this is a team game and he is expected to run up and down the flank by our highly esteemed manager(?) If so where has the cover been on these foraging expeditions. He is a kid who recently has shown signs of improvement. If the bone idle players in front of him were doing their job correctly he would either have someone to pass to or someone to cover his runs. Being a natural midfield player why not play him in front of Cork. I think he could do a much better job of covering than the present holders of right midfield. Plus he does sometimes give us a good cross for the forwards to attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 James is a very good RIGHT MIDFIELDER not a very good right back. How would you know, he's never played at RM. Amazed that Perry and BWP are not starting to be honest. I can actually see the potential in Lancashire. I'm happy to keep playing him as i'm sure he will come good. Same said for Smith, I think he will win a few people around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 Hopkins - RVN does work hard, so that's quite a bad comparison. Your point about people who saw him in the reserves -exactly. He was playing in the reserves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harvey Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 (edited) Because the people who watch him think that because he's not Brett Ormerod and doesnt run round like a headless chicken that he is ****. I'm pretty certain that you ask anybody who watched him while he was playing in the reserves a few years ago, that they will tell you he's never been one that looks like giving a ****. Infact, random and slightly sad but I remember a post on this board a while ago after a reserve game saying something like "McGoldrick was **** today, we slagged him off all game, didn't look interested, couldnt be arsed at all, but to be fair he scored twice." Don't all top strikers say something along the lines of "The best bit of movement you can do as a striker is no movement at all. Standing still is just as useful" I certainly don't see players like RVN running there socks off. (He's alot better than McGoldrick and has alot better service, before anyone says "but RVN scores McGoldrick doesn't".) Also quite sad but I remember Beattie saying something about teaching our young strikers like Blackstock, McGoldrick and Best that chasing stuff down just gets you into posistions out wide where you cant score from. As I said earlier, Ormerod did that, and he scored like 4 times or something silly for us. When you play one up front, which is our best option because we have no other strikers worth playing, you dont want that centre forward whipping in crosses to nobody after he's just ran his arse off to get the ball off the left back. The kid does not look like he gives a ****. Yes he's been **** the last few games, he couldn't finish his breakfast against Forest, but he's our top goal scorer. He won us the game at Preston with a fine solo goal. I dont remember Stern John ever looking like he could give a toss but he scored goals. McGoldrick will score goals more than anyone else in our squad at the moment. Saga, when he gets back is about the only striker worth challenging him for a place in the team. Untill then, the kids been better than any other striker in our squad. Yes he's been inconsistent, but he's a kid, unless he's Rooney he's going to be **** but i'd rather him in the team than anyone else in our squad, quite simply because not one of the other strikers is doing ANYTHING worth shouting about. At least he's getting chances to miss, which is something I do not remember Robertson or Paterson ever having when they have played, and if someone says "They haven't been given a chance to play regulary like McGoldrick has." Then that is ******** also because Robertson has and Paterson cant even get ahead of him in the reserve side. BWP is a much better winger before anyone says anything about starting him upfront on his own and as for the mug who said play Skacel up front, well done clever clogs, play the only half decent player capable of playing left back who we were all crying out for to come back in at left back at the start of the season upfront on his own, when despite rumours saying otherwise he's never actually played there. I can't reply anymore because of the shocking 3 post rule. It's my birthday today and I've had a few drinks, so forgive me if I've got the wrong end of the stick, but do you honestly believe what you have written ??????? Edited 26 December, 2008 by harvey *** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 25 December, 2008 Share Posted 25 December, 2008 Because the people who watch him think that because he's not Brett Ormerod and doesnt run round like a headless chicken that he is ****. I'm pretty certain that you ask anybody who watched him while he was playing in the reserves a few years ago, that they will tell you he's never been one that looks like giving a ****. Infact, random and slightly sad but I remember a post on this board a while ago after a reserve game saying something like "McGoldrick was **** today, we slagged him off all game, didn't look interested, couldnt be arsed at all, but to be fair he scored twice." Don't all top strikers say something along the lines of "The best bit of movement you can do as a striker is no movement at all. Standing still is just as useful" I certainly don't see players like RVN running there socks off. (He's alot better than McGoldrick and has alot better service, before anyone says "but RVN scores McGoldrick doesn't".) Also quite sad but I remember Beattie saying something about teaching our young strikers like Blackstock, McGoldrick and Best that chasing stuff down just gets you into posistions out wide where you cant score from. As I said earlier, Ormerod did that, and he scored like 4 times or something silly for us. When you play one up front, which is our best option because we have no other strikers worth playing, you dont want that centre forward whipping in crosses to nobody after he's just ran his arse off to get the ball off the left back. The kid does not look like he gives a ****. Yes he's been **** the last few games, he couldn't finish his breakfast against Forest, but he's our top goal scorer. He won us the game at Preston with a fine solo goal. I dont remember Stern John ever looking like he could give a toss but he scored goals. McGoldrick will score goals more than anyone else in our squad at the moment. Saga, when he gets back is about the only striker worth challenging him for a place in the team. Untill then, the kids been better than any other striker in our squad. Yes he's been inconsistent, but he's a kid, unless he's Rooney he's going to be **** but i'd rather him in the team than anyone else in our squad, quite simply because not one of the other strikers is doing ANYTHING worth shouting about. At least he's getting chances to miss, which is something I do not remember Robertson or Paterson ever having when they have played, and if someone says "They haven't been given a chance to play regulary like McGoldrick has." Then that is ******** also because Robertson has and Paterson cant even get ahead of him in the reserve side. BWP is a much better winger before anyone says anything about starting him upfront on his own and as for the mug who said play Skacel up front, well done clever clogs, play the only half decent player capable of playing left back who we were all crying out for to come back in at left back at the start of the season upfront on his own, when despite rumours saying otherwise he's never actually played there. I can't reply anymore because of the shocking 3 post rule. Please stop listening to radio Hampshire and actually start attending games. McGoldrick should never be in the team EVER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 We will lose with that team - Saga up front we might have stood a slim chance, but now...well...the circus plays on as we watch the club die... oh yeah , with his two goals last season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknrollman no2 Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 oh yeah , with his two goals last season I would rather have Saga than McGoldrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 rather have John myself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 James is a very good RIGHT MIDFIELDER not a very good right back. very good right midfielder? What makes you think that, a couple of decent crosses from fullback? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Certain to lose etc., club dying blah blah. Grow up. It's largely the same team you all said couldn't beat Reading. Maybe we will lose, maybe we'll beat Reading, who knows, but you lot will no doubt predict loss doom and eternal woe forever more regardless. It's just that sunny Southampton disposition. how is it a dispostion when we are on the verge ofthe bottom 3..and our recent form is shyte.. predicting a loss is pretty sane if you were a betting man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 That team isn't too bad, glad we've tried to change it around though. We've been dire since Reading with quite a settled side. If we're going to win then I think Gillett will be crucial, none of the other midfielders are going to tackle or put their foot in and that's going to be crucial against Plymouth. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Scrap that team their is going to be some more injury news forthcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 what a nonsense team. If that is what we are starting with then expect a hammering. Jan its time to go.Perry and BWP Euell should be in the team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 what a nonsense team. If that is what we are starting with then expect a hammering. Jan its time to go.Perry and BWP Euell should be in the team indeed BWP has scored our last few important goals and is out of the team as it stands.. WTF.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 indeed BWP has scored our last few important goals and is out of the team as it stands.. WTF.... Indeed, we lack goal scorers and leave BWP on the bench. If we're going to persist with 4-5-1 then i'd play Holmes and BWP out wide, BWP is at least a goal threat and can cause problems for defenders. He's not the best player in our squad but on current form he should be in the 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Just looking at our squads and team sheets makes for depressing reading I'm afraid. That said, we do have a "best 11 that would be at least competitive. Its KD Cork perry Pearce Skacel Spider Surman Gillett lallana Robbo/Mcg/Bwp Holmes I'm not BWPs biggest fan, but on form he's worth having around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Indeed, we lack goal scorers and leave BWP on the bench. If we're going to persist with 4-5-1 then i'd play Holmes and BWP out wide, BWP is at least a goal threat and can cause problems for defenders. He's not the best player in our squad but on current form he should be in the 11. He's our only goal threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 If Robertson starts ahead of McGoldrick then were ****ed. McGoldrick is our top goal scorer, he may not be everyones favourite player but dropping your top goal scorer, who ever you are, is absurd. Other than that, I'm happy enough. Gillet has been bought in top combat the phsyical side of Plymouth as despite him being a dwarf he's likely to put his foot in. That is the only reason I can think of that Roberston is starting, because he's likely to be a bit more phsyical than McGoldrick. Shame he is guff. Unless we have actually coached Robertson in how to play and put Llana next to him literally it is a waste of time! We must play the same we did at Reading with the two up front VERY CLOSE TOGETHER. Has portvliet not worked this out YET. I'm tired of his inability to recognise what works, how and why!.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Indeed, we lack goal scorers and leave BWP on the bench. If we're going to persist with 4-5-1 then i'd play Holmes and BWP out wide, BWP is at least a goal threat and can cause problems for defenders. He's not the best player in our squad but on current form he should be in the 11. BWP is the only player we have who makes runs in the box - pure and simple. Portvliet continues to tell us what is wrong and is by and large not too far adrift but continues to do absolutely nothing about it in terms of coaching this to the players................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 would be interested to see Euell playing behind BWP. Euell with bit of presence to get knock downs etc and BWP with more pace and looking more likely in one on ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 how about we try 442? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted 26 December, 2008 Author Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Have heard there may be some more changes due to injury! Will have to wait and see I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Have heard there may be some more changes due to injury! Will have to wait and see I guess. This will be Lallana and Robertson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Does it matter,we are poor whoever plays,do not have a decent goalscorer and will have to make do with the very poor McGoldrick again:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Can`t post the official team news from Radio hants as i`m to busy laughing at it:smt044 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Davis James Cork Lancashire Skacel Gillett Gobern Smith Holmes Surman Mcgoldrick **** me, that is seriously lighweight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Davis James Cork Lancashire Skacel Gillett Gobern Smith Holmes Surman Mcgoldrick **** me, that is seriously lighweight. Is`nt that the truth.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 THE TEAM FOR PLYMOUTH HAS CHANGED SINCE MY LAST POST! We are now set to start with the following . . . ----------------------- Davis ---------------------- James ------- Lancashire ------- Cork ------- Skacel --------------- Gillett ----- Surman ---------------- Smith --------------- Lallana ------------- Holmes ------------------- Robertson --------------------- It's not the first time the team has changed last minute and probably won't be the last. Poortvliet has decided to rest a few people and it's good to see McGoldrick has been taken out of the firing line. Still unsure as to why Pearce isn't involved. Maybe we aren't extending his loan deal? Still, here's hoping for 3 points! Nearly. Gillett Gobern midfield Surman behind McGoldrick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 I was very close to setting oof to the game today, Im glad I didnt.Jan has lot it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 26 December, 2008 Share Posted 26 December, 2008 Is`nt that the truth.. This must be the worst team in the last fifty years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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