What is wrong with America

[Sir Ralph]

10 hours ago, pingpong said:

Trump was disappointed that it wasn't an immigrant, but relieved that they might be trans, so we can look forward to some deft political quotes from him in the coming day or two.

Firstly this is obviously incredibly sad. 
 

It’s strange that is your first comment on this issue - what Trump would say! It seems a bit obsessional in the context.

 

This was what appears to be a mentally unstable person who is trans with anti Trump, anti semitic and Free Palestine words written on his weapons among other similar slogans. The police has confirmed it’s an anti Catholic hate crime.

However, I suspect if this was a straight white red neck who had walked into a Mosque with pro Trump and IDF comments written everywhere and killed 20 kids you would have something to say about them and why they did it and how appalling it was (which it most definitely would be for clarity). In such an instance their background and motivation for undertaking that action would be absolutely relevant in your eyes (and mine also).

Therefore it’s not rationale for this persons background and motivation to not be commented on or of relevance as that would apply double standards.
 

Whatever Trump says is relatively immaterial to the issue as a whole. The fact that 20 kids have been killed is incredibly sad and the motive and background of the killer are relevant, however. Maybe start there…

Edited Thursday at 07:27 by Sir Ralph

[Sir Ralph]

2 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

Firstly this is obviously incredibly sad. 
 

It’s strange that is your first comment on this issue - what Trump would say! It seems a bit obsessional in the context.

 

This was what appears to be a mentally unstable person who is trans with anti Trump, anti semitic and Free Palestine words written on his weapons among other similar slogans. The police has confirmed it’s an anti Catholic hate crime.

However, I suspect if this was a straight white red neck who had walked into a Mosque with pro Trump and IDF comments written everywhere and killed 20 kids you would have something to say about them and why they did it and how appalling it was (which it most definitely would be for clarity). In such an instance their background and motivation for undertaking that action would be absolutely relevant in your eyes (and mine also).

Therefore it’s not rationale for this persons background and motivation to not be commented on or of relevance as that would apply double standards.
 

Whatever Trump says is relatively immaterial to the issue as a whole. The fact that 20 kids have been killed is incredibly sad and the motive and background of the killer are relevant, however. Maybe start there…

@sadoldgit assume the confusion is you don’t understand the point?

[sadoldgit]

My confusion has arisen by your claim that 20 kids were killed. Your grasp of facts seems as tenuous as Donald Trump’s.

[badgerx16]

8 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

My confusion has arisen by your claim that 20 kids were killed. Your grasp of facts seems as tenuous as Donald Trump’s.

20 were shot. 

[sadoldgit]

6 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

20 were shot. 

I know. He said 20 were killed.

10 hours ago, Sir Ralph said:

Firstly this is obviously incredibly sad. 
 

It’s strange that is your first comment on this issue - what Trump would say! It seems a bit obsessional in the context.

 

This was what appears to be a mentally unstable person who is trans with anti Trump, anti semitic and Free Palestine words written on his weapons among other similar slogans. The police has confirmed it’s an anti Catholic hate crime.

However, I suspect if this was a straight white red neck who had walked into a Mosque with pro Trump and IDF comments written everywhere and killed 20 kids you would have something to say about them and why they did it and how appalling it was (which it most definitely would be for clarity). In such an instance their background and motivation for undertaking that action would be absolutely relevant in your eyes (and mine also).

Therefore it’s not rationale for this persons background and motivation to not be commented on or of relevance as that would apply double standards.
 

Whatever Trump says is relatively immaterial to the issue as a whole. The fact that 20 kids have been killed is incredibly sad and the motive and background of the killer are relevant, however. Maybe start there…

 

[Sir Ralph]

11 minutes ago, sadoldgit said:

I know. He said 20 were killed.

 

Ok I got that bit wrong - 20 shot rather than killed
 

The point I was making was that someone was focusing on what Trump would say about it because the person is trans and I was pointing out that was an unusual point to highlight and the application of double standards that would have been applied on here if someone of a different profile had done the shooting. It highlights the bias that was being applied. That was the key point and the 20 shot or killed by no means invalidates the point I made.
 

I have often noted that when people don’t have a response to a point they pick up a secondary point to highlight as a distraction tactic to the key point they can’t respond to. Just an observation.

Edited Thursday at 18:13 by Sir Ralph

[badgerx16]

 

Edited Friday at 16:07 by badgerx16

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